**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 17 02:59:58 2012
Jul 17 04:37:32 <baboo> my SlidingPane won't work.
Jul 17 04:38:44 <baboo> no enyo shows up if i make it a SlidingPane instead of just a pane
Jul 17 04:38:59 <baboo> could someone please help
Jul 17 05:00:24 <baboo> i don't need help anymore, changed my plan
Jul 17 14:16:37 <madnificent> anybody have experience with embedding swf stuff in enyo?
Jul 17 15:08:40 <madnificent> looks like embed works, but iframe is smarter for external content
Jul 17 16:08:59 <madnificent> has anyone gotten the video tag working on the touchpad?  i must be doing something wrong, but i can't figure out what it actually accepts.  it tells html5test.com that it consumes mpeg4 and h264, however, i can't spew out anything from vlc which it will render inside the video tag.  any help is appreciated
Jul 17 16:52:40 <baboo> yeah, my mobile website has a video section, but the video kind doesn't work.
Jul 17 17:03:58 <madnificent> baboo: it's most likely something with figuring out the right codec
Jul 17 17:04:18 <madnificent> however, it seems the touchpad doesn't like swf when it's too big either (or again, something else which it doesn't like)
Jul 17 17:20:03 <baboo> i see
Jul 17 17:37:15 <madnificent> baboo: are you on linux?  i think i've found a way that somewhat works (though it's something that just worked here once, so it may just be a coincidence)
Jul 17 17:37:28 <summatusmentis> I've done some dirty, dirty things with encapsulation
Jul 17 17:44:06 <madnificent> summatusmentis: feel free to throw them my way!
Jul 17 17:44:43 <madnificent> i'm currently reencoding to an mp4 format with vlc and then reencoding with ffmpeg...  not really something i'd want to do
Jul 17 17:50:36 <madnificent> though in all seriousness, if the touchpad supports the video tag, i'd really just prefer to use that :/
Jul 17 18:08:54 <drunknbass> what would cause minify to choke on a js file that otherwise works?
Jul 17 18:09:50 <baboo> yeah, even the <embed> tag doesn't work on my TP, but it does on my mac
Jul 17 18:15:20 <madnificent> baboo: the <embed> tag can work, but you need the swf to be 'good' for the touchpad...  it seems to be a bit of a mess (fingers crossed, perhaps openwebos can help us out there)
Jul 17 18:15:32 <madnificent> drunknbass: beats me
Jul 17 18:16:41 <summatusmentis> madnificent: remember the jumping issues I was having?
Jul 17 18:16:53 <summatusmentis> seems to be related to the Accordion control from the community gallery
Jul 17 18:17:09 <drunknbass> when minify chokes the error it spits out tells me absolutely nothing
Jul 17 18:17:35 <drunknbass> i guess ill have to run some lint on the js and see if its a semicolon or something stupid
Jul 17 18:17:45 <summatusmentis> drunknbass: usually the errors I find when I'm using bootplate/tools/deploy.sh is syntax
Jul 17 18:17:52 <summatusmentis> yeah, I'm sure that's the issue
Jul 17 18:18:09 <drunknbass> what is it typically? im sure its a stupid mistake
Jul 17 18:19:54 <summatusmentis> missing brackets, missing comma
Jul 17 18:20:10 <summatusmentis> missing a semicolon is valid javascript, iirc
Jul 17 18:23:02 <drunknbass> k
Jul 17 18:23:04 <drunknbass> thx
Jul 17 18:23:55 <drunknbass> are their any validators that work with kinds?
Jul 17 18:23:57 <drunknbass> lints
Jul 17 18:27:42 <summatusmentis> no idea
Jul 17 18:28:43 <summatusmentis> guys, I really hate fittables
Jul 17 19:05:20 <unwiredben> drunknbass: I use jshint extensivly with enyo code
Jul 17 19:05:38 <unwiredben> I have it integrated into sublime text 2, but you can also cut/paste to the jshint website
Jul 17 19:06:21 <unwiredben> BTW, text inputs are horrible
Jul 17 19:06:37 <unwiredben> on Android, there are lots of bugs with them an scrollable divs/transformed content
Jul 17 19:06:47 <unwiredben> due to how Android uses a native control to implement them
Jul 17 19:07:18 <unwiredben> and in webkit in general, you can often scroll a div not otherwise scrollable by starting with the mouse in a text field
Jul 17 19:09:12 <drunknbass> ok thanks ill try now. i have been bouncing between ST2 choclat and coda2
Jul 17 19:22:49 <EricBlade> Enyo 2.0 Release Notes (July 18, 2012)
Jul 17 19:22:54 <EricBlade> ^5
Jul 17 19:23:24 <summatusmentis> unwiredben: that's exactly what I'm seeing, the inputs are in an Accordion control from the community gallery
Jul 17 19:24:07 <summatusmentis> and the "in focus" portion jumps well below where it's supposed to be, and breaks all the rendered content
Jul 17 19:35:37 <summatusmentis> unwiredben: do you know of a strategy to handle it? If it's really an android thing, then it seems like the only option is not having transformed content
Jul 17 19:36:29 <summatusmentis> or does panels have the ability to do accordion-esque transformation?
Jul 17 19:36:33 <summatusmentis> I'm not having issues w/ panels
Jul 17 19:56:41 <EricBlade> http://www.gamepadjs.com/
Jul 17 21:00:15 <fahhem> wow, frameworks are being written for APIs that are in the nightly/canary stage of support
Jul 17 21:28:29 <madnificent> summatusmentis: not what i would have guessed (source of jumping issues), thanks for the update.  i didn't know you used that either btw.
Jul 17 23:24:50 <EricBlade> DNS change means connectivity to blog.enyojs.org or forums.enyojs.org may be disrupted until later tonight. Sorry! -- @enyojs
Jul 17 23:41:29 <fxspec06> o.O
Jul 18 01:03:30 * EricBlade melts
Jul 18 01:04:32 <rrix> EricBlade: It's 105F and humid in PHX right now, you don't get to melt :P
Jul 18 01:04:50 <EricBlade> over the last 4 hrs we've dropped from 107 to 99
Jul 18 01:04:55 <rrix> I really do not get the madness around nodeJS right now
Jul 18 01:05:09 <EricBlade> it is a bit mad.
Jul 18 01:05:14 <EricBlade> but it's kinda neat
Jul 18 01:05:20 <rrix> I shouldn't have to invest so much brainpower in to keeping my application from becoming an unorganized mess
Jul 18 01:05:40 <rrix> EricBlade: It's totally neat, but it doesn't solve the "90% of javascript applications are a fucking mess" problem :(
Jul 18 01:05:43 <EricBlade> i have enough knowledge of it to power a webos service, i'm not super knowledgeable
Jul 18 01:05:54 <rrix> I've been working on a server backend for a game I'm writing
Jul 18 01:06:07 <rrix> I'm doing everything I can to not dump the entire thing in app.js
Jul 18 01:06:25 <EricBlade> rrix: enyo sort of solves the "fucking mess" problem
Jul 18 01:06:30 <rrix> Node modules kind of work, and make sense after reading the invocation chapter in Javascript The Good Parts
Jul 18 01:06:33 <rrix> EricBlade: Very nicely, imo
Jul 18 01:06:48 <rrix> Unfortunately it's done through hiding everything in objects, but
Jul 18 01:06:49 <EricBlade> although it's still quite easy to build a complete "fucking mess", just look at gvoice or xo
Jul 18 01:07:04 <rrix> It's quite easy to do that in any language :)
Jul 18 01:07:47 <EricBlade> the synergv ui is amazingly fluid, but that's because it spends most of it's time waiting on node services now
Jul 18 01:09:10 <rrix> I'm chasing context issues in my module :(
Jul 18 01:09:20 <rrix> modules*
Jul 18 01:09:21 <rrix> all of them
Jul 18 01:09:37 <rrix> I still have issues grasping 'this', because I'm used to it not being set so late in a functioncall
Jul 18 01:16:05 <EricBlade> hmm. i saw a really good explanation of "this" a couple weeks ago .. it made me decide that i should never use "this" except when I know exactly what "this" will be
Jul 18 01:19:55 <rrix> this can be really powerful
Jul 18 01:20:54 <rrix> EricBlade: Have you read Good Parts? I'm really enjoying it so far
Jul 18 01:21:03 <rrix> It's short and has a really good coverage of things like that
Jul 18 01:21:44 <EricBlade> i like to make a lot of use of Future.callback and enyo.bind to make sure i know who this is
Jul 18 01:21:51 <EricBlade> i haven't read it, but i really do need to
Jul 18 01:22:40 <fxspec06> EricBlade: it's dropped from 94 to about 84 here. and 84 at 9pm est is pretty madness
Jul 18 01:22:53 <fxspec06> esp up north.
Jul 18 01:23:08 <EricBlade> i think my deodorant melted
Jul 18 01:23:12 <EricBlade> i just put it on about 5 minutes ago
Jul 18 01:23:33 <fxspec06> i swear my air conditioner is blowing hot air
Jul 18 01:26:07 <fxspec06> this is the hottest summer up here i can remember in a long time. this is like the 5th straight day over 90, and before then we had 2 weeks over 85
Jul 18 01:26:44 <fxspec06> tomorrow is another 95+ day, then it's finally going to cool down a bit.
Jul 18 01:27:12 <fxspec06> http://www.weather.com/news/drought-disaster-photos-20120713
Jul 18 01:28:38 <fxspec06> but, global warming is just a myth and this is just one of the planet's "natural" cycles. =|
Jul 18 01:39:21 <fxspec06> right now in my town we're 3 degrees above the average high temp, but 6 degrees above avg low temp. =|
Jul 18 01:41:42 <fxspec06> oh, and total rainfall: 0.08 inches
Jul 18 02:49:11 <summatusmentis> anyone around?
Jul 18 02:49:30 <fxspec06> yo
Jul 18 02:49:50 <summatusmentis> how do I get at something that I can appendChild() to in enyo?
Jul 18 02:51:02 <fxspec06> hollar at it and hope it holla back! lol, no, sorry. that bad.
Jul 18 02:51:47 <fxspec06> are you talking about.. a domnode? like, give me an example
Jul 18 02:54:03 <fxspec06> enyo.byId(); ??
Jul 18 02:55:23 <summatusmentis> I'm trying to I'm trying to use a library that calls appendChild() in order to render it's stuff
Jul 18 02:55:40 <summatusmentis> specifically http://api.maps.nokia.com/en/mobile/documentation.html#Map_Component
Jul 18 02:56:31 <summatusmentis> but when I create the new Map object, it says "Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'appendChild' of null"
Jul 18 02:57:34 <fxspec06> so your "mapContainer" must not be there, then. document.getElementById() still works as before
Jul 18 02:58:01 <fxspec06> you want to append it to say, an enyo object ?
Jul 18 02:58:13 <summatusmentis> I'm trying to write a kind, and just give it the id of the current Kind
Jul 18 02:58:18 <summatusmentis> but that's not working
Jul 18 02:58:23 <fxspec06> there's a better way h.o
Jul 18 02:59:16 <summatusmentis> how?
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