**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jul 27 02:59:59 2012 Jul 27 15:20:24 hi, how can bubble up an event from an checkbox in a Repeater (within a Scroller), up to the main app? i see that there is a bubbleUp(), but my App function is not getting called :s Jul 27 15:23:09 you can try waterfall Jul 27 15:23:25 or just bubble Jul 27 15:24:03 fxspec06: thanks, i'll check both Jul 27 15:26:18 fxspec06: waterfall is top down event, i'll check bubble or just dispatchEvent Jul 27 16:15:07 fxspec06: it seems that the problem is the tricky Repeater, i found a workaround in the forums http://forums.enyojs.com/discussion/comment/1844/#Comment_1844 Jul 27 17:46:44 Checlk Jul 27 17:46:49 Anyone home? Jul 27 17:48:39 I am Jul 27 17:48:44 What's up tkimmet? Jul 27 17:55:22 http://www.lisabrewster.com/2366/leaving-palm Jul 27 18:02:53 I'm having an issue with Scrollers, I posted on forums but I'd rather have some realtime assistance Jul 27 18:04:47 tkimmet: Well I'd be happy to help Jul 27 18:04:52 fxspec06: I saw, sad day Jul 27 18:05:40 that app cat license plate Jul 27 18:05:42 Alrighty Jul 27 18:06:09 Basically I've got two scrollers stacked in a FittableRows Jul 27 18:06:54 Neither of them scrolls on webos however Jul 27 18:07:08 touch is set to true Jul 27 18:08:25 http://forums.enyojs.com/discussion/621/scrollers#latest is my post I recently made Jul 27 18:08:27 It has a code snippet Jul 27 18:09:27 tkimmet: Try just not setting touch at all. Jul 27 18:09:40 tkimmet: That way it just picks whatever works best for the device. Jul 27 18:10:02 Tried that as well :P Jul 27 18:10:21 In browser, it works if I don't set touch Jul 27 18:10:30 It uses the regular scrollbars Jul 27 18:10:51 omg https://developer.palm.com/distribution/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=7032 Jul 27 18:11:02 fxspec06: Saw that, totally hilarious. Jul 27 18:11:11 tkimmet: Does it work on android or ios? Jul 27 18:11:13 i think i just peed my pants Jul 27 18:12:07 It does scroll on android kind of Jul 27 18:12:46 It scrolls, but automatically scrolls back to the top of the scroller despite the content extending beyond the scrollers bounds Jul 27 18:13:12 oh, i had this problem Jul 27 18:13:35 fxspec06: take over Jul 27 18:13:38 is it a scroller within a scroller? have you changed to the android specific touchscrollstrategy Jul 27 18:14:33 No nested scrollers Jul 27 18:14:52 I have not specified a scroll strategy Jul 27 18:15:22 The thing is, other touch: true scrollers work in the browser Jul 27 18:15:34 So I should be able to get these to work with touch in the browser also Jul 27 18:15:47 kind: "Scroller", horizontal: "scroll", vertical: "auto", strategyKind: "ScrollStrategy", //try that on android Jul 27 18:16:43 It shouldn't scroll horizontally Jul 27 18:17:16 right, that should prevent it i believe Jul 27 18:17:33 horizontal: "scroll" ? Jul 27 18:18:45 http://enyojs.com/api/#enyo.ScrollStrategy Jul 27 18:19:24 you can play with those, but i think the key might be specifying the standard ScrollStrategy Jul 27 18:21:55 Alright I'll do some quick testing Jul 27 18:25:52 BRB, installing Mountain Lion. Jul 27 18:52:18 Hello, Mountain Lion Jul 27 18:52:23 Still around? Jul 27 18:52:30 I've made some developments Jul 27 18:53:19 I've gotten them to scroll, but it is like browser scrolling Jul 27 18:53:27 Moving my finger down scrolls down, up scrolls up Jul 27 18:53:37 As opposed to inverted like normal Jul 27 18:53:49 touch: true needs to be set? Jul 27 18:59:41 touch: true didn't seem to help Jul 27 19:01:52 tkimmet: That sounds so weird Jul 27 19:03:08 This is pretty annoying Jul 27 19:03:21 It just doesnt make sense heh Jul 27 19:04:35 I wish I could help. Jul 27 19:05:09 Do you think it is a problem with webos also having enyo 1,0 ? Jul 27 19:05:14 1.0 Jul 27 19:05:52 Also, adding TouchScrollStrategy does not scroll at all Jul 27 19:08:48 I don't think so. Jul 27 19:11:08 Frustrating Jul 27 19:11:13 It seems so simple Jul 27 19:11:27 The only component of the scroller is text content Jul 27 19:11:45 It probably is simple, heh Jul 27 19:11:51 Something must just be going wrong. Jul 27 19:12:57 It seems so Jul 27 19:17:16 hello Jul 27 19:18:42 Hello Jul 27 19:21:10 any good general irc groups? Jul 27 19:21:48 i am checking out a new mobile js framework Jul 27 19:22:02 flow5 Jul 27 19:22:23 anything new with enyojs? Jul 27 19:22:47 does it still have a future? Jul 27 19:23:25 i was able to get an enyojs app running on ios... Jul 27 19:25:16 It seems to have a future yes Jul 27 19:25:35 Despite the annoying problems I'm having with it Jul 27 19:30:08 what problems? Jul 27 19:30:26 Scroller problems Jul 27 19:30:41 It's probably something specific to my setup Jul 27 19:30:56 Afk a bit though, I can explain further when I get back if you'd like Jul 27 22:51:26 anyone know where the heck you define an application's name in Android configurations? Jul 27 22:52:31 I know where in phonegap Jul 27 22:54:36 The config.xml file, but I guess you're just talking about regular android Jul 27 22:54:46 hmm. changing it in build.xml changes the filename ... Jul 27 22:55:00 doesn't affect the app name on the launcher though Jul 27 23:00:47 Anyone had problems with enyo.Scroller before? Jul 27 23:01:30 I never got it to work the way I wanted on my Android phone so I quit using it Jul 27 23:01:47 Scroller? Jul 27 23:01:53 yeah Jul 27 23:02:04 What was the issue? Jul 27 23:02:15 it just acted really erractically Jul 27 23:02:25 also had mixed luck getting it to scroll in an actual browser Jul 27 23:02:42 Well I can get scrollers to work just fine in the browser Jul 27 23:02:54 The browser recognizes the scrollers and adds the scrollbars Jul 27 23:03:03 But it is the touch scrolling that is not working Jul 27 23:03:13 ah, well you've made it farther than me Jul 27 23:03:37 Ugh, scrollers shouldn't be hard to use :P Jul 27 23:03:49 Which is why it is really annoying me Jul 27 23:04:07 I've been working on rewriting an enyo 1.0 app in enyo 2.0 Jul 27 23:04:19 Works great until I try to use these scrollers on the device Jul 27 23:04:36 On TouchPad the scrollers simply don't work. Android is just very sluggish Jul 27 23:05:10 yeah, Android can be a pain to get working right Jul 27 23:05:28 I've only used phonegap build tool so far for making an apk Jul 27 23:05:33 Donno how good that is Jul 27 23:05:35 I was testing on my Nexus S in ICS with it overclocked to the max and it still ran like crap Jul 27 23:05:44 But the performance is unacceptable in my book Jul 27 23:06:13 That isn't good to hear Jul 27 23:06:20 How were you creating your apk? Jul 27 23:06:30 I just heard about a phonegap alternative called mosync today, apparently it performs better than phonegap but I have never actually tried it Jul 27 23:06:42 oh I haven't even got to the packaging stage Jul 27 23:06:46 I'm still testing directly in the browser Jul 27 23:07:05 Yeah I saw something about mosync Jul 27 23:07:32 So you were testing a web app in the Android browser? Jul 27 23:08:00 yeah a 100% Enyo 2 app Jul 27 23:08:27 it's easier to just test mobile performance in the browser before I bother with packaging it up Jul 27 23:08:31 i have to boot my touchpad to android :( Jul 27 23:08:47 I hear tablet and phone android act very different too Jul 27 23:09:08 The problem I'm having is especially frustrating because I have other scrollers which work perfectly fine on webos Jul 27 23:09:20 I'm only targeting tablet so that's good Jul 27 23:13:37 Basically the app would be pretty much complete if these scrollers worked :P Jul 27 23:19:28 hey guys Jul 27 23:19:35 i have a breakthrough in Android scrollers in Enyo Jul 27 23:19:44 a BREAKTHROUGH Jul 27 23:20:20 A BREAKTHROUGH?! Jul 27 23:20:27 Do tell Jul 27 23:20:31 but it only works on 3.x and 4.x Jul 27 23:20:35 * phil_bw perks up Jul 27 23:20:40 Listening Jul 27 23:20:44 i just discovered this, and it's FREAKING AMAZING. Jul 27 23:20:54 Sounds like one of those infomercials Jul 27 23:20:58 * phil_bw has never seen Eric quite so excited Jul 27 23:21:17 i am because SynerGV 1 on my ICS TouchPad is moving almost as nicely as on webOS Jul 27 23:21:27 wanna know what it is? Jul 27 23:21:28 Say what? Jul 27 23:21:43 Yes Jul 27 23:21:46 you learned to write native android apps? Jul 27 23:21:55 :P Jul 27 23:21:59 add hardwareAccelerated="true" to your tag in your AndroidManifest.xml Jul 27 23:22:24 er Jul 27 23:22:39 android:hardwareAccelerated="true" Jul 27 23:22:58 So how are you running your app? Jul 27 23:23:22 i tap the icon Jul 27 23:23:25 then it runs Jul 27 23:23:42 No I mean how are you packaging it or whatever Jul 27 23:23:55 EricBlade, I have GVoiceA on my Nexus, has it been updated with that change? Jul 27 23:23:56 ant release install Jul 27 23:24:04 phil_bw: i'm about to ship it Jul 27 23:24:28 EricBlade, let me know when it's ready for updating and I'll manually update it and let you know how it runs Jul 27 23:24:51 my phone is a frickin' mess right now and is running out of space left and right so nothing updates at the moment so I need to do a little leg work to update anything :/ Jul 27 23:25:17 phil_bw: i just sent it up Jul 27 23:25:20 So I have to get android sdk tools and whatnot in order to see this performance gain you mention EricBlade? Jul 27 23:25:57 tkimmet: i do not know. maybe the browser is already hardware accelerated Jul 27 23:26:12 EricBlade, usually how long until it should show up? Jul 27 23:26:36 I'm using phonegap to generate an apk from my HTML/Javascript source Jul 27 23:26:37 phil_bw: i'd expect it to be available within a minute or two normally, i think. it might not necessarily take automatically since i've rebranded it to SynerGV now Jul 27 23:26:49 ah Jul 27 23:26:57 Not a web app Jul 27 23:27:01 I'll go grab my phone off the charger and see what happens Jul 27 23:27:12 tkimmet: me too. you should have an AndroidManifest.xml in your app root Jul 27 23:27:31 i don't know a lot about the stuff in there, but i was just visiting the #android-dev channel ,and saw someone mention that tag. i thought i'd try it Jul 27 23:27:57 Ah alrighty, I have not used phonegap too much, so I only had config.xml and webos specific stuff Jul 27 23:28:38 I'll try it and see what happens Jul 27 23:28:45 My scrollers still don't work on webos though :P Jul 27 23:29:12 I did get them to somewhat work at one point Jul 27 23:29:40 But they behaved oddly; dragging down on the scroller scrolled down, and vice versa for up Jul 27 23:29:44 i'm not sure on that. i have some scrollers in enyo 2 that work fine in webos and others that do not Jul 27 23:30:06 Same Jul 27 23:30:11 Within the same app, some are working and some are not Jul 27 23:35:05 EricBlade, if I pull up GVoiceA it doesn't show any updates available. If I manually search for SynerGV it doesn't show up but recommends GVoiceA Jul 27 23:37:53 hm... is this not a valid call? this.createComponent({tag: "div"}); Jul 27 23:38:26 Uncaught TypeError: Cannot call method 'push' of undefined enyo.js:732 Jul 27 23:38:27 phil_bw: hmm. interesting. i'm really not sure what to advise there. Jul 27 23:38:39 Might depend on where you're calling it Jul 27 23:38:48 EricBlade, I wonder if Android is just slow to update Jul 27 23:40:24 aha, found it Jul 27 23:41:10 mistake that is Jul 27 23:41:20 hadn't called this.inherited(arguments) yet Jul 27 23:42:29 Setting my scroller to strategyKind: "TranslateScrollStrategy" allows me to scroll it via touch, but it always returns to the original scroll position Jul 27 23:42:37 As if it thinks that it cannot scroll anymore Jul 27 23:42:44 Or rather does not need to scroll Jul 27 23:43:06 This is in the browser Jul 27 23:43:46 I'm pretty sure that it did the same when I loaded on android, because it probably chose TranslateScrollStrategy by default due to the environment being Android Jul 27 23:44:08 phil_bw: yeah i can see it in the store, but i don't see the description updating yet. maybe they cache some stuff now Jul 27 23:44:20 the app name, description, recent changes, should all be changing Jul 27 23:47:03 EricBlade, restarted the whole phone, still nothing Jul 27 23:47:25 i don't knoooooooow :( Jul 27 23:47:35 hm Jul 27 23:47:45 I wonder what'll happen if I uninstall it Jul 27 23:47:56 then find it and download again Jul 27 23:48:33 the last time i updated it was about 2 minutes. Jul 27 23:49:12 so is it called SynerGV now? Jul 27 23:50:03 it should be, but for some reason, that's just forwarding to the old app listing Jul 27 23:50:18 it shows GVoiceA when I search Jul 27 23:50:33 going to try installing again Jul 27 23:50:40 yeah i'm confused. i'm going to leave it alone for a few minutes and see what happens Jul 27 23:50:49 well you should get v1.1.3 in the about box Jul 27 23:52:48 1.1.1 Jul 27 23:53:04 Are scrollBounds the dimensions of the scrollable content? Meaning they include the content that cannot be seen Jul 28 00:00:40 phil_bw: i wonder if the dev interface is screwey right now, i can't get it to work on Chrome Jul 28 00:01:04 no idea Jul 28 00:01:38 oh look at that Jul 28 00:01:47 now it shows up as SynerGV Jul 28 00:01:53 woo Jul 28 00:02:06 still 1.1.1 though Jul 28 00:02:23 in my My Apps list it shows as SynerGV Jul 28 00:02:29 if I click it it comes up as GVoiceA Jul 28 00:02:47 going to uninstall again Jul 28 00:03:09 hmm. i wonder if i didn't sync the app version Jul 28 00:04:24 nope app version is correct. i do notice that the titlebar starts off as GVoice then switches to SynerGV. oh well. Jul 28 00:08:59 I'll check back later Jul 28 00:17:37 * phil_bw wanders off Jul 28 02:06:00 Howdy **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jul 28 02:59:59 2012