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Aug 22 03:02:05 <rrix> Couldn't you just change the display attribute?
Aug 22 03:06:09 <summatusmentis> that'd probably work too
Aug 22 03:16:23 <glwatson> change it to what? i'm new to this stuff :)
Aug 22 03:16:58 <rrix> display:block
Aug 22 03:17:04 <rrix> will turn it in to a block element
Aug 22 03:18:05 <glwatson> ah, i will try that. thanks!
Aug 22 03:47:38 <summatusmentis> I have a css question, if anyone has any ideas: I'm using a table w/ 3 rows, and 2 columns that's prepopulated. I'm hiding cells on-the-fly based on user input, and there's a case where I need to hide cell (1,2) but leave cell (2,2) in it's proper place
Aug 22 03:48:02 <summatusmentis> what's happening now is when I hide cell (1,2), cell (2,2) pushes left into the space that (1,2) had been in
Aug 22 03:48:26 <summatusmentis> thoughts?
Aug 22 03:48:40 <rrix> summatusmentis: have an inner div with your content and display:none it, maybe?
Aug 22 03:49:36 <rrix> (it == the inner div)
Aug 22 03:55:38 <summatusmentis> well, the content is an onyx.Button
Aug 22 03:56:13 <summatusmentis> and display:none is what I've been doing to the cells as a whole. I've also tried visibility: collapse; (which is supposed to keep the cell intact, just collapse the content)
Aug 22 03:57:09 <fxspec06> omg i am in LOVE with the handlers function.
Aug 22 03:57:12 * fxspec06 field day
Aug 22 03:59:02 <fxspec06> it's incredible what you can learn from the source
Aug 22 04:08:13 <summatusmentis> what does that mean?
Aug 22 04:08:24 <summatusmentis> like event handlers?
Aug 22 04:13:37 <fxspec06> basically. you include it in the header similar to the published and events, and when you declare it you set attributes you want to override
Aug 22 04:14:17 <fxspec06> when a kind inherits from another kind it inherits all the events, too.. but you can catch those with handlers before they fire
Aug 22 04:45:00 <summatusmentis> yeah, that makes sense to me
Aug 22 04:45:26 <summatusmentis> you have to declare a handlers block if you want to use the doEvenetName() structure also
Aug 22 05:17:44 * fxspec06 banghead
Aug 22 05:18:00 <fxspec06> argh, i love spending hours fixing something that you did the wrong way
Aug 22 05:18:18 <fxspec06> when you did something earlier that made your life super e z but forgot about.
Aug 22 17:05:17 <summatusmentis> anyone here used JsonpRequest? how do I get the data out of it?
Aug 22 17:08:48 * madnificent only remembers running into problems with it and doing it the old school way
Aug 22 17:10:22 <summatusmentis> the old school way?
Aug 22 17:10:34 <summatusmentis> I'm trying to do it to get around "same host" stuff
Aug 22 17:10:37 <rrix> summatusmentis: you call the callback you name, iirc and it retunrs the data
Aug 22 17:11:00 <summatusmentis> does the serverside have to have the callback in place? or is that clientside?
Aug 22 17:11:14 <rrix> alternately, sometimes you can't name it and the remote service wraps with its own callback name
Aug 22 17:11:17 <madnificent> summatusmentis: by building an xmlhttprequest object
Aug 22 17:11:21 <rrix> summatusmentis: look at the script that gets injected
Aug 22 17:11:33 <summatusmentis> rrix: at this point, it's just pure json
Aug 22 17:11:37 <rrix> madnificent: XHR only works if the CORS headers are set to allow it
Aug 22 17:11:38 <summatusmentis> I'm getting an error
Aug 22 17:11:45 <rrix> summatusmentis: it needs to be wrapped in a callback for JSONP to work
Aug 22 17:11:49 <madnificent> rrix: yes, but that wasn't specified earlier :)
Aug 22 17:11:56 <rrix> JSONP is json data wrapped in a callback function.
Aug 22 17:12:05 <summatusmentis> oh, so it has to be serverside
Aug 22 17:12:09 <rrix> madnificent: 'get around "same host" stuff' would imply that :)
Aug 22 17:12:11 <rrix> summatusmentis: correct
Aug 22 17:12:21 <summatusmentis> that's not helpful
Aug 22 17:12:25 <summatusmentis> my server isn't setup that way
Aug 22 17:12:44 <madnificent> rrix: yes, but that wasn't specified when i said i did it the old school way.  so the second response was only explaining what i meant, not as a solution anymore :/
Aug 22 17:12:55 <summatusmentis> I need a way to run my enyo app on a webhost, and that webhost is different than my data-store server
Aug 22 17:13:04 <rrix> basically what happens is that the server wraps the data in a functional call fooCallback({data: 'bar'}); and you inject that as a <script> in to the page, which hits a method called fooCallback that you created
Aug 22 17:13:15 <rrix> and fooCallback stores the data it gets passed somewhere
Aug 22 17:13:25 <rrix> summatusmentis: so you have access to data store server?
Aug 22 17:13:40 <summatusmentis> can you phrase that question a different way?
Aug 22 17:13:52 <rrix> You can tweak settings and code on the data store server?
Aug 22 17:13:53 <summatusmentis> it's a server written in-house if that's what you mean
Aug 22 17:13:56 <summatusmentis> yes
Aug 22 17:14:12 <rrix> Just add the Access-Control-Allow-Origin header then and XHR it in
Aug 22 17:14:22 * rrix was assuming you didn't have access to your API endpoint
Aug 22 17:14:31 * rrix high fives madnificent
Aug 22 17:14:35 <summatusmentis> hrm
Aug 22 17:14:58 * madnificent high fives (but really, he was only standing by the sideline looking at rrix scoring)
Aug 22 17:14:59 <rrix> ACAO isn't really evil, if you know why you're enabling it
Aug 22 17:15:37 <rrix> but I have to go to work now, back in 15-30
Aug 22 17:15:51 <summatusmentis> no worries, thanks
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Aug 22 20:06:48 <summatusmentis> rrix: so, I added Access-Control-Allow-Origin: * to all of my headers, and it works for login, but not for GET against json structures
Aug 22 20:08:23 <rrix> summatusmentis: what errors are you getting?
Aug 22 20:11:07 <summatusmentis> it's hard to tell, because I'm deploying remotely, but it looks like the URLs where I'm expecting json to come back are sending OPTIONS requests, and the requests are getting cancelled
Aug 22 20:12:04 <summatusmentis> 500 error
Aug 22 20:12:08 <summatusmentis> from the server
Aug 22 20:12:51 <summatusmentis> but I think the 500 error is coming from the OPTIONS request
Aug 22 20:13:08 <summatusmentis> because our server doesn't handle that
Aug 22 20:33:15 <summatusmentis> it looks like there's a pre-request that goes out, I'm 90% sure my code isn't handling that, unless enyo.Ajax does it on it's own
Aug 22 20:49:30 <madnificent> summatusmentis: those OPTIONS requests are the things i had bothered with too.  i think that was one of the things that made me switch (me being too lazy to figure it out)
Aug 22 20:50:06 <madnificent> (also, i hadn't thought it was important to remember, so i must have a lot more blind spots)
Aug 22 20:52:33 <summatusmentis> but you were using enyo.Ajax, right?
Aug 22 20:52:42 <summatusmentis> how did you work around it?
Aug 22 20:57:02 <summatusmentis> I think either my browser or my server is sending OPTIONS requests
Aug 22 21:01:55 <summatusmentis> aaaaah, there is is. The request needs to be contentType: "application/x-www-form-urlencoded"
Aug 22 21:04:49 <madnificent> we had a lot of changes at the same time.  one being that the service moved towards hte same host... it was just a tryout anyways.  and no, we ended up using an xmlhttprequest instead...  so i'm of little help.
Aug 22 21:05:00 <madnificent> but i remember those OPTONS requests coming in
Aug 22 21:05:22 <madnificent> s/OPTONS/OPTIONS/ i don't know what OPTONS are, but they sound cool
Aug 22 21:10:00 <summatusmentis> my understanding is that OPTIONS requests come in prior to the actual GET/POST, and the response to an OPTIONS request tells the client whether or not Access-Control-Allow-Origin is allowed or not
Aug 22 21:10:20 <summatusmentis> so, if the client gets a positive response from the OPTIONS request, then it can safely send the GET/POST request
Aug 22 21:59:22 <rrix> So are folks here using build.phonegap any?
Aug 22 22:00:01 <summatusmentis> not yet, but that's the plan long-term
Aug 22 22:00:25 <rrix> Afaict there's no way to just point my canonical git repo at it when I'm using bootplate without either holding my build/ repo in git, or something similarly painful
Aug 22 22:00:56 <rrix> I don't want to keep 'compiled' code in my git repo, but I also don't want to have to upload tarballs
Aug 22 22:01:14 <summatusmentis> yeah, I can understand that
Aug 22 22:02:41 <rrix> Although, frankly their installer also bundles a lot of shit I dont need/want :\
Aug 22 22:06:15 <summatusmentis> which shit?
Aug 22 22:11:07 <rrix> summatusmentis: like source and lib :)
Aug 22 22:18:53 <rrix> lol, phonegap build's webOS ipks don't scale to fullscreen on 3.x :(
Aug 22 22:29:55 * rrix just opened an issue in phonegap's getsatisfaction about that
Aug 22 22:30:03 <rrix> in the meantime, palm-package that shi'
Aug 22 22:37:09 <rrix> ( http://community.phonegap.com/nitobi/topics/missing_uirevision_2_in_webos_builds?rfm=1 )
Aug 22 23:19:41 <fxspec06> rrix: i don't, too many issues for me w/ webos
Aug 22 23:20:30 <rrix> fxspec06: what else are there issues with besides the uiRevision thing I've already discovered?
Aug 22 23:20:57 <fxspec06> well i have no idea, it was so long ago that i tried i didn't even want to deal.
Aug 22 23:22:08 <fxspec06> i just remember it didn't go full screen and no matter what i did i could never get anything webos to load
Aug 22 23:22:29 <fxspec06> and i thought it was stupid because i could get the same exact code running on my pre with palm-run
Aug 22 23:23:01 <fxspec06> and i thought, you know this really isn't worth the hassle, i'd rather just make my own web packages for each platform.
Aug 22 23:26:38 <fxspec06> also from my other experiences using phonegap i have had issues getting it loading on android at my internship, and for that i cannot forgive.
Aug 22 23:34:37 <rrix> fxspec06: Ah, makes sense. Phonegap build produces decent enough apks and phone-usable ipks. I'm going to try iOS packages tonight I thinkg
Aug 22 23:55:30 <fxspec06> ya, pg build was the good one, but i really didn't feel like convincing my "web dev leader" that. he was pretty clouded by dreamweaver's awesomeness
Aug 22 23:55:42 <fxspec06> oh, sorry, dreamweaver's "awesomeness"
Aug 23 01:41:49 <fxspec06> rrix: you know anything about enyo 2.0 dashboards
Aug 23 01:42:02 <rrix> fxspec06: like, adding a webOS dashboard to an enyo2 thingy?
Aug 23 01:42:09 <fxspec06> yeah, that
Aug 23 01:42:13 <fxspec06> not a banner
Aug 23 01:42:21 <rrix> nay ;(
Aug 23 01:42:40 <fxspec06> grr. i'm gonna find a way.
Aug 23 01:42:51 <rrix> doesn't jay's webosext do that?
Aug 23 01:42:57 <fxspec06> there's got to be a way, some combination of enyo 1 depends etc
Aug 23 01:43:13 <fxspec06> it bridges the banners but i don't see a way to dashboard
Aug 23 01:43:19 <rrix> o
Aug 23 02:06:05 <fxspec06> enyo.hitch().... that is bind, right?
Aug 23 02:06:24 <fxspec06> equivelant would be bind ?
Aug 23 02:29:35 <madnificent> what is a webos dashboard?
Aug 23 02:29:47 <fxspec06> the thing at the top of the screen next to the device menu.
Aug 23 02:29:50 <madnificent> fxspec06: thought so, hitch is commonly used as an alternative name, but i think there was something like bind
Aug 23 02:29:52 <fxspec06> notification
Aug 23 02:29:55 <madnificent> ah, right
Aug 23 02:29:57 <madnificent> cool
Aug 23 02:29:58 <fxspec06> the physical one
Aug 23 02:30:04 <fxspec06> i'm hacking this, i'll find it
Aug 23 02:30:07 <fxspec06> s/find/get
Aug 23 02:30:08 * madnificent doublechecks the api
Aug 23 02:30:22 <fxspec06> there's no api for it
Aug 23 02:30:24 <madnificent> (wait a year for it to load plz)
Aug 23 02:30:27 <madnificent> yes there is
Aug 23 02:30:28 <fxspec06> lol
Aug 23 02:31:02 <madnificent> enyo.bind exists
Aug 23 02:31:08 <madnificent> and it's documented
Aug 23 02:31:19 <fxspec06> well ya, that does.
Aug 23 02:31:42 <fxspec06> what i'm doing is i took the system folder from enyo 1 source and i'm trying to make dashboard and filepicker work
Aug 23 02:31:44 <madnificent> (hitch doesn't have documentation apparently, but i hadn't seen it anywhere either)
Aug 23 02:31:50 <fxspec06> hitch is enyo 1
Aug 23 02:31:52 <madnificent> ahhh
Aug 23 02:31:56 <fxspec06> si
Aug 23 02:32:00 <madnificent> yes, probably the same.  hitch is often used for the same purpose
Aug 23 02:32:21 * madnificent takes his words "yes there is" back, was talking about a different version apparently
Aug 23 02:32:31 <madnificent> 4:32 am, heading to bed
Aug 23 02:32:55 <fxspec06> heh
Aug 23 02:33:00 <fxspec06> cool, ttylz
Aug 23 02:33:09 <madnificent> z?
Aug 23 02:33:15 <madnificent> laterz?
Aug 23 02:33:18 <fxspec06> ya
Aug 23 02:33:27 <madnificent> ok! ttyl!  good luck/enjoy!
Aug 23 02:33:36 <fxspec06> i'm trying!
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