**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Sep 03 03:00:00 2012
Sep 03 04:37:56 <baboo> i'm going to submit my first app to the app catalog
Sep 03 04:38:13 <baboo> made in enyo, of course
Sep 03 04:38:53 <scoutcamper> baboo, congratulations!
Sep 03 04:49:38 <baboo> thanks!
Sep 03 04:50:12 <baboo> It tells you what you should eat
Sep 03 04:50:31 <baboo> i have a free version also
Sep 03 04:51:03 <baboo> since everyone is so nice here, you all can get it free
Sep 03 04:53:30 <baboo> :) the link is com.justin.decidesumfood_2.0.0_all.ipk
Sep 03 04:53:43 <baboo> oops
Sep 03 04:54:06 <baboo> justin.websb.net/com.justin.decidesumfood_2.0.0_all.ipk
Sep 03 06:45:56 * phil_bw wanders by
Sep 03 08:03:38 * rrix is working on a really nice pathfinder/dnd datasheet :3
Sep 03 08:03:44 <rrix> er, character sheet application
Sep 03 08:27:36 * phil_bw is working on unhacking his webhost
Sep 03 15:17:13 <baboo> has anyone noticed there are so few youtube videos of enyo?
Sep 03 15:23:42 <fxspec06> drawers are fun
Sep 03 15:33:55 <baboo> ??
Sep 03 16:48:49 * phil_bw sleepily wanders by
Sep 03 16:49:13 * phil_bw stumbles over the user list
Sep 03 16:49:59 <fxspec06> i'm not here
Sep 03 16:51:08 <phil_bw> must be a sporting event of some kind on
Sep 03 16:56:12 <fxspec06> national geographic
Sep 03 16:56:25 <fxspec06> red sox are coming up soon too, but they are getting killed lately
Sep 03 16:56:29 <fxspec06> mostly waiting for hockey
Sep 03 16:56:57 <phil_bw> ah
Sep 03 16:57:02 <phil_bw> btw nice work on your twitter app
Sep 03 16:57:07 <phil_bw> sounds quite impressive
Sep 03 17:00:35 <fxspec06> it's fun
Sep 03 17:00:55 <fxspec06> i thought about how to do it for like the last three months
Sep 03 17:02:48 <phil_bw> yeah, I know the feeling
Sep 03 17:04:45 <fxspec06> but i never figured it'd look so nice. i mean user can change anything
Sep 03 17:04:52 <fxspec06> which reminds me, i need to make that one last menu that does that
Sep 03 17:05:09 <fxspec06> because it doesn't have an interface yet.
Sep 03 17:06:06 <fxspec06> but i have a list here of like maybe 20+ things you can customize yourself
Sep 03 17:07:17 <phil_bw> that's the beauty of Enyo though eh?
Sep 03 17:07:29 <phil_bw> just make your superkind themable and everything derrived from it is themable
Sep 03 17:07:35 <fxspec06> i couldn't do this without enyo.
Sep 03 17:07:39 <fxspec06> no way
Sep 03 17:07:47 <fxspec06> well, i could
Sep 03 17:07:49 <phil_bw> I don't use a single base enyo/onyx control in my apps
Sep 03 17:07:55 <fxspec06> but it wouldn't be as easy
Sep 03 17:08:06 <phil_bw> they are *all* derrived from a custom superkind that then wraps enyo/onyx controls
Sep 03 17:08:21 <fxspec06> yeah
Sep 03 17:09:00 <fxspec06> i do that except my superkind goes in the components block
Sep 03 17:09:21 <phil_bw> for example all of my controls can have their properties set by simply specifiying a url to server that returns a json object
Sep 03 17:09:53 <phil_bw> when I build new controls they have this ability just by default thanks to good ol enyo
Sep 03 17:13:56 <fxspec06> ya
Sep 03 17:18:29 * phil_bw sighs
Sep 03 17:18:41 <phil_bw> nothing worse than cleaning up after a web server attack
Sep 03 17:38:33 <fxspec06> going back to school?
Sep 03 17:40:03 <phil_bw> huh?
Sep 03 17:40:44 * rrix hugs phil_bw
Sep 03 17:41:00 <phil_bw> come fix this rrix!
Sep 03 17:41:01 <phil_bw> :(
Sep 03 17:41:37 <phil_bw> I changed all my passwords, restored from backups, everything seemed to be gone
Sep 03 17:41:41 <phil_bw> hour later it was all back :(
Sep 03 17:42:39 <calarval> hi, does anyone have an example of an endless-scrolling control or tips/recommendations to build one?
Sep 03 17:42:49 <rrix> phil_bw: I'm fixing clients' servers right now :<
Sep 03 17:43:15 <phil_bw> rrix, fixing server sucks doesn't it? I'd rather be developing something
Sep 03 17:44:47 <fxspec06> phil_bw: school for me starts up again tomorrow. no stopping til december
Sep 03 17:44:59 <fxspec06> so less developing
Sep 03 17:45:00 <rrix> phil_bw: I had the choice between SA and java/spring development on this project, i"ll admin :)
Sep 03 17:45:06 <phil_bw> oh I just got what you said fxspec06
Sep 03 17:45:22 <phil_bw> rrix, good man, always looking at the bright side
Sep 03 17:45:29 <rrix> It's what I do best
Sep 03 17:45:42 <fxspec06> ya, and i haven't had time to get ready for it bc of this stupid app
Sep 03 17:47:42 <sugardave> calarval: like a wrapping carousel or something?  look at enyo.Panels (certain arrangers) and wrap: true
Sep 03 17:49:55 <calarval> more like a scrolling list that loads more data from the server when the current loaded items are exhausted
Sep 03 17:50:24 <sugardave> hmmm, I think someone put one of those in the gallery:  enyojs.com/gallery
Sep 03 17:51:32 <calarval> I'll check it again, maybe I overlooked it
Sep 03 17:51:53 <sugardave> hmmm. maybe I'm misremembering
Sep 03 17:54:45 <fxspec06> how were the rest of the bootcamps
Sep 03 17:55:31 <sugardave> really great!  NYC had the most people show up and Chicago was small but engaged....successful all around
Sep 03 17:56:39 <sugardave> if I can just carve out some time to spend on the bootcamp app, it would be really helpful, I think
Sep 03 17:57:05 <fxspec06> awesome! so we can expect even cooler bootcamps in the future then?
Sep 03 17:58:07 <sugardave> I would like that, yes :)
Sep 03 18:00:25 <sugardave> today I am floundering around with node.js.  I've (insanely) decided to write a MUD with it
Sep 03 18:19:43 <ka6sox> sugardave, ORLY? wow
Sep 03 18:29:49 <rrix> sugardave: an old coworker was working on https://github.com/m3talsmith/mudpie a while back
Sep 03 18:31:46 <sugardave> rrix: cool, I will take a look.  the last one I looked at was basically a straight port of RoM (or derivative) but I wanted to go from scratch :)
Sep 03 18:31:56 <sugardave> ka6sox: yeah, we'll see how it goes ;)
Sep 03 18:32:21 <rrix> Nice :)
Sep 03 18:32:31 <sugardave> I ought to call it Overkill: http://www.sugardave.com/2012/09/getting-muddy-with-node-js/
Sep 03 18:36:45 <ka6sox> I think the term Maximum Overkill is taken
Sep 03 18:39:15 <rrix> 0verkill was a fun game
Sep 03 18:39:54 <sugardave> heh
Sep 03 18:53:05 <LarrySteeze|Away> ka6sox: pong
Sep 03 18:53:25 <LarrySteeze|Away> woah, sugardave DOES exist in IRC world
Sep 03 18:54:16 <sugardave> heh, I finally got my Ubuntu box relatively stable so when the MBP dies I can just re-screen from there
Sep 03 18:54:38 <LarrySteeze|Away> I still think you should just get znc set up
Sep 03 18:54:55 <sugardave> I know, just haven't done it yet
Sep 03 18:57:20 <LarrySteeze|Away> it's ok. I was late to the game too.
Sep 03 22:54:38 <EricBlade> ok, ok, i know i'm behind the 8 ball here, but.. since i do still have enyo 1 apps .. has anyone else had significant problems with enyo 1 in Jelly Bean?
Sep 03 22:55:28 <EricBlade> i know i've had one user say that synergv works great in JB, but my experience is something quite awful
Sep 03 22:55:47 <EricBlade> so i'm not sure if its just jb on the evo 4g is farked, or if it's something more than that
Sep 04 01:59:31 <fxspec06> http://twitpic.com/aqvxhb/full
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