**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Sep 05 02:59:59 2012
Sep 05 14:38:39 <calarval> hi
Sep 05 14:39:04 <calarval> still can't use addComponent properly
Sep 05 14:39:49 <calarval> can someone please check this small sample code? http://jsfiddle.net/spna5/1/
Sep 05 14:44:17 <fxspec06> this.addComponent({kind: "B2"}, {owner:this}); this.$.B2.render();
Sep 05 14:44:28 <fxspec06> create() not addComponent
Sep 05 14:44:29 <fxspec06> **
Sep 05 14:44:38 <fxspec06> afaik
Sep 05 14:44:56 <fxspec06> and you shouldn't need the render afterwards, i don't think
Sep 05 14:46:03 <katratxo> calarval: http://enyojs.com/api/#enyo.Component::createComponent
Sep 05 14:48:24 <calarval> yes createComponent works but I can't pass an instantiated control to it
Sep 05 14:49:00 <fxspec06> ah
Sep 05 14:49:07 <calarval> i need to pass an instance because i want to pass something to the constructor
Sep 05 14:49:11 * fxspec06 can never get jsfiddle to work
Sep 05 14:49:42 <fxspec06> i've also never used addComponent.
Sep 05 14:50:05 <katratxo> calarval: afaik you can pass anything to the createComponent
Sep 05 14:50:35 <calarval> ok, let me check
Sep 05 14:51:04 <katratxo> your B2 kind can override the create and do whatever you want with the passed params
Sep 05 14:51:38 <fxspec06> ya i think i've done that before. but i can't say for certain
Sep 05 14:57:37 <calarval> createComponent(b2) throws an error
Sep 05 14:59:08 <katratxo> calarval: http://jsfiddle.net/spna5/3/
Sep 05 15:01:02 <calarval> i see, I'll try this approach, thanks
Sep 05 15:09:09 <fxspec06> there it is! you don't even need the 'content custom label'
Sep 05 15:09:27 <fxspec06> jesus, the .render() afterwards!!!! rrrix will ove that!
Sep 05 15:09:38 <fxspec06> jsfiddle causing me fits
Sep 05 15:12:07 <calarval> ha! now i don't even remember way i wanted this in the first place xD
Sep 05 15:15:07 <calarval> s/way/why/
Sep 05 16:29:49 <sugardave> calarval: try addControl, but that's not something you should do often (if I remember my discussion correctly)
Sep 05 16:31:02 <sugardave> and probably only works with, you know, enyo.Controls :)
Sep 05 16:32:58 <summatusmentis> sugardave: you know all about scrollers and enyo-fit right?
Sep 05 16:33:09 <fxspec06> controls vs components is something you could easily miss when starting
Sep 05 16:33:36 <sugardave> summatusmentis: no, but I can act like I do, if that helps
Sep 05 16:34:44 <sugardave> all I know about enyo-fit is that it sets top,right,bottom,left to 0.  So if your container is absolutely positioned (I think I got that right) it will constrain to that box
Sep 05 16:35:05 <sugardave> fxspec06: +1
Sep 05 16:35:09 <sugardave> brb guys
Sep 05 16:42:51 <summatusmentis> wait, absolutely positioned... hrm
Sep 05 16:42:56 <summatusmentis> I've never heard that
Sep 05 16:44:38 <fxspec06> i think i've heard it somewhere. it definitely makes sense.. so wait, that means you could apply .. like .. a relative position, and achieve the same as fit.. ?
Sep 05 16:46:36 <sugardave> it's one of those CSS position things.  I THINK it's absolute
Sep 05 16:47:25 <summatusmentis> I have _never_ been able to get scrollers to work properly unless I specify a height in px
Sep 05 16:47:41 <summatusmentis> which defeats the purpose, because I need variable height
Sep 05 16:48:24 <summatusmentis> it seems like fittable/enyo-fit breaks when you createComponents after setting something to fit
Sep 05 16:48:39 <sugardave> somewhere up the containment hierarchy you need a height, but you should be able to use fit: true on a scroller
Sep 05 16:49:19 <sugardave> summatusmentis: you got a fiddle?
Sep 05 16:50:24 <sugardave> also, if you're doing interesting things in a fittable, you might need to .reflow() it or call .resized() on it
Sep 05 17:13:13 <summatusmentis> sugardave: this stuff is too embedded to be in a fiddle, unless you want the whole deployed app.js
Sep 05 17:26:58 <calarval> sugardave: thanks, not sure if really need it now. anyway is good to know that.
Sep 05 17:49:42 <summatusmentis> sugardave: I mean, the app as a whole has a height set in index
Sep 05 17:53:57 <rrix> fxspec06: So you got that cool cat's cude working?
Sep 05 17:53:58 <rrix> fxspec06: what was it?
Sep 05 17:54:01 <rrix> He left before I could drag a jsfiddle out of him the other day
Sep 05 18:01:09 <fxspec06> it was remember the stuff we were doing with fiddle the other night? it wasn't working because you called render() after? well, you do .createComponent().render(); to make it work
Sep 05 18:01:55 <fxspec06> http://jsfiddle.net/spna5/11/
Sep 05 18:05:46 <rrix> so you have to render the instance, not the parent
Sep 05 18:06:21 <fxspec06> it appears as such
Sep 05 18:06:34 <rrix> actually, that B2 doesn't appear for me either :\\
Sep 05 18:08:49 <fxspec06> =O
Sep 05 18:09:13 <fxspec06> no way. it's totally working for me in FF..
Sep 05 18:09:30 <fxspec06> and chrome.
Sep 05 18:13:18 <sugardave> summatusmentis: is that by design or just what you've done to make it work?
Sep 05 18:13:30 <sugardave> and are you just writing in-line or rendering into body?
Sep 05 18:15:10 <summatusmentis> I didn't follow that
Sep 05 18:15:21 <summatusmentis> that's what enyo recommends, for phonegap stuff
Sep 05 18:15:40 <summatusmentis> <meta name="viewport"; content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1.0, maximum-scale=1.0, user-scalable=no" />
Sep 05 18:15:58 <summatusmentis> is that what you mean?
Sep 05 18:16:05 <summatusmentis> otherwise, my top kind is a Fittable
Sep 05 18:16:17 <sugardave> oh, I see....I thought you meant the "App" enyo.Control kind was redndering and you were arbitrarily setting its height
Sep 05 18:16:45 <sugardave> and that Fittable....do you new App().write() it or .renderInto() ?
Sep 05 18:16:52 <summatusmentis> no no
Sep 05 18:17:01 <summatusmentis> I'm using renderInto(), again because of phonegap
Sep 05 18:17:07 <summatusmentis> most things are rendering just fine
Sep 05 18:17:48 <sugardave> are you passing fit: true to the constructor for App?
Sep 05 18:18:02 <sugardave> new App({fit: true}),renderInto(document.body);
Sep 05 18:18:10 <sugardave> s/,/./
Sep 05 18:18:14 <summatusmentis> I'm just populating a form based on data from a json server, into drawers, and  when the things I want to scroll are Fittables and something is set fit: true, the whole form div collapses to 0
Sep 05 18:19:18 <summatusmentis> no, I'm not passing fit:true to App
Sep 05 18:21:06 <sugardave> so, I think if you do that, you might have better luck with getting scrollers to size correctly as you'd expect.  You might need to play around with other fit styles/properties you're currently using
Sep 05 18:22:11 <summatusmentis> so, I _think_ the issue is related to rendering/resizing on the sub-divs where the form elements get populated
Sep 05 18:22:43 <summatusmentis> does render() or resized() propagate down the tree?
Sep 05 18:23:53 <sugardave> render for sure...I think resized just calculates the sizes of children and adjusts accordingly
Sep 05 18:42:09 <fxspec06> render() can mess everything up down the tree if you're not careful. i've never had any issues w/ reflow() though
Sep 05 18:42:38 <summatusmentis> mess up? how?
Sep 05 18:43:22 <fxspec06> well, err, you really don't wanna know. i had this one control that called render on a container higher up on resize, and that caused a major .. err .. bad thing. this one time.
Sep 05 18:43:42 <sugardave> seems legit
Sep 05 18:43:42 <fxspec06> long long time ago though, not like this weekend or anything
Sep 05 18:44:26 <summatusmentis> porn popped up everywhere
Sep 05 18:44:31 <sugardave> actually, sometimes calling .render() on a List can have unexpected results
Sep 05 18:44:34 <summatusmentis> that's the only assumption I can make based on your vageness
Sep 05 18:44:41 <summatusmentis> s/vageness/vagueness/
Sep 05 18:46:13 <fxspec06> it acted like an infinite loop but it was worse. my point is, be careful where you stick .render(), and try to use it sparingly
Sep 05 18:48:17 <summatusmentis> sugardave: resized() isn't documented in the enyo API docs
Sep 05 18:49:02 <sugardave> that is a shame
Sep 05 18:50:24 <summatusmentis> ok, so, my Scroller is in a Fittable, and has fit: true set. I'm adding components to the Scroller, but height is still 0
Sep 05 18:50:32 <summatusmentis> is that even the right structure?
Sep 05 18:50:54 <sugardave> generally, yes
Sep 05 18:51:22 <fxspec06> so long as the fittable is fitting
Sep 05 18:51:25 <sugardave> let me enter a few of these expenses and I'll throw up a simple fiddle
Sep 05 18:51:31 <summatusmentis> sure
Sep 05 19:15:37 <sugardave> summatusmentis: I can't seem to make it do what I want in a fiddle.  It also ignores things like enyo-unselectable, so not sure if there's something else going on
Sep 05 19:15:46 <rrix> summatusmentis: that's what happens when you createComponents({kind: "PornPopper"}); :\
Sep 05 19:15:51 <rrix> It goes everywhere
Sep 05 19:15:56 <summatusmentis> lol
Sep 05 19:16:11 * rrix yells at firefox's seeming disability to use rough geolocation to any use
Sep 05 19:16:39 <rrix> I am not at all close to switzerland
Sep 05 19:17:25 <sugardave> you're just thinking on too granular a scale
Sep 05 19:17:58 <rrix> :)
Sep 05 20:45:40 <rrix> If I'm setting onEventName to a enyo.bound function, and then calling doEventName, under what circumstances would that bound function not be called?
Sep 05 21:07:20 <rrix> Eh, I have to make it a string referencing the function name if I do that :\ ugh
Sep 05 21:09:34 <fxspec06> enyo.bound?
Sep 05 21:12:37 <summatusmentis> presumably a function bound using enyo.bind
Sep 05 21:44:39 <summatusmentis> I'm seeing some really weird behavior. Things are all collapsed, until I resize the window, and then things seem to jump to where I actually want them.
Sep 05 21:45:48 <summatusmentis> it's like the fittable stuff is kicking in when the chrome window resizes
Sep 05 21:48:57 <fxspec06> .reflow()
Sep 05 21:49:10 <fxspec06> should fix that.*
Sep 05 21:49:57 <summatusmentis> doesn't seem to
Sep 05 21:50:37 <summatusmentis> is it this.$.reflow()? or this.reflow() ?
Sep 05 21:50:52 <fxspec06> this.reflow()
Sep 05 21:51:05 <fxspec06> you can call it on specific elements, though
Sep 05 21:51:07 <summatusmentis> yeah, that doesn't work
Sep 05 21:52:58 <summatusmentis> and I don't know which fittable is jumping it's size
Sep 05 21:54:17 <fxspec06> i'm trying to remember how i fixed that. you could set up a render handler and call reflow there
Sep 05 21:54:55 <summatusmentis> I'm adding components after rendered() gets called
Sep 05 21:57:35 <summatusmentis> actually, that's not true
Sep 05 22:04:13 <fxspec06> that could happen if there's nothing in the scroller when it's first rendered
Sep 05 22:08:39 <summatusmentis> which is true
Sep 05 22:09:01 <summatusmentis> so I need to render the scroller afterwards?
Sep 05 22:10:09 <fxspec06> that might help
Sep 05 22:17:42 <summatusmentis> well, wait, the scroller is only inside a drawer, I think
Sep 05 22:23:20 <fxspec06> well that complicates everything
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