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Oct 02 15:25:16 <katratxo> "http://urtak.is/Sqb7QW
Oct 02 15:25:16 <katratxo> Have you used EnyoJS at all in the last year?
Oct 02 15:25:47 <katratxo> a javascript poll by PPK (quirksmode.org)
Oct 02 15:27:01 <fxspec06_> have i used it?
Oct 02 15:27:08 <fxspec06_> hmm, that's a tough question....
Oct 02 15:27:25 <fxspec06_> i'll have to think about that for a while
Oct 02 15:35:04 <SimpsonTP> hi all
Oct 02 15:35:27 <SimpsonTP> I'm looking for a way to do a background sync of data when a connection comes available
Oct 02 15:35:56 <SimpsonTP> e.g. I want to create some notes, and want to store them locally, and then store them when a connection to the server comes available, any hints ?
Oct 02 15:39:13 <GodGinrai> So this would be an app for WebOS?
Oct 02 15:39:59 <SimpsonTP> enyo, needs to be able to run on other platforms as well
Oct 02 15:40:11 <SimpsonTP> maybe even plain browser based
Oct 02 15:40:21 <SimpsonTP> but first mobile in e.g. phonegap
Oct 02 15:41:12 <GodGinrai> k, well, you probably need some sort of event handler or poller to check for a connection
Oct 02 15:41:45 <SimpsonTP> some reading on that would be appreciated
Oct 02 15:41:52 <GodGinrai> After that, you could use enyo.WebService to send it as either a GET or POST request
Oct 02 15:42:54 <GodGinrai> Yea, I'm not sure about how to check for a connection, myself.  I'm new to Enyo as well
Oct 02 15:43:26 <SimpsonTP> tood bad ;)
Oct 02 15:51:05 <katratxo> SimpsonTP: http://developers.whatwg.org/offline.html
Oct 02 15:52:08 <fxspec06_> you should use power timeout
Oct 02 15:52:10 <katratxo>  window.navigator.onLine should tell you if you have connection, offline and online events can be captured to perform actions
Oct 02 15:52:52 <fxspec06_> use an enyo service w/ a headless app, do a power time out every x hrs, load what you need, check for connection, if no connection exists try again later
Oct 02 15:53:37 <SimpsonTP> katratxo, that works in e.g. phonegap as well ?
Oct 02 15:54:48 <katratxo> SimpsonTP: i have little experience with phonegap, so i can't tell, i have built offline capable webapp with similar requirements
Oct 02 16:01:46 <SimpsonTP> okay I got enough information now !
Oct 02 20:55:03 <dcramer> is it ok to paste code here, or is there a paste bin ?
Oct 02 21:00:10 <fxspec06> pastebin is better
Oct 02 21:06:46 <dcramer> actually I have it down to a one liner
Oct 02 21:07:08 <fxspec06> cool
Oct 02 21:07:08 <dcramer> why can't I do enyo.kind({name: 'foo', kind: enyo.List})
Oct 02 21:07:29 <dcramer> "enyo.kind: Attempt to subclass an undefined kind. Check dependencies for [foo]."
Oct 02 21:07:36 <dcramer> wtf ?
Oct 02 21:07:54 <fxspec06> check dependencies -- that means something in your foo kind does not exist
Oct 02 21:07:58 <fxspec06> put enyo.List in quites
Oct 02 21:08:04 <fxspec06> quotes*, or just use 'List'
Oct 02 21:08:25 <dcramer> 'List' does not work either
Oct 02 21:08:46 <fxspec06> then you must not be including the list library
Oct 02 21:09:18 <fxspec06> it's not part of the 'core enyo package'
Oct 02 21:09:25 <dcramer> well that might explain it
Oct 02 21:09:27 <fxspec06> list is part of onyx, you have to include it separately
Oct 02 21:09:48 <dcramer> however if I include it as a component of another component it works fine
Oct 02 21:10:25 <fxspec06> it would
Oct 02 21:13:41 <summatusmentis> dcramer: enyo.kind({name: "foo", kind: "enyo.List"});
Oct 02 21:13:50 <summatusmentis> you need the quotes around the kind name
Oct 02 21:13:59 <summatusmentis> s/name/type/
Oct 02 21:14:04 <dcramer> summatusmentis: I have tried that, doesn't work
Oct 02 21:14:09 <summatusmentis> ah, ok
Oct 02 21:14:26 <summatusmentis> sorry, I didn't fully read the log
Oct 02 21:15:25 <fxspec06> in your depends, add "$lib",
Oct 02 21:15:59 <fxspec06> then if you have the lib folder in that package.js it should include /layout and /onyx
Oct 02 21:17:37 <dcramer> fxspec06: ok, thanks
Oct 02 21:18:17 <dcramer> fxspec06: is there a way you can get it from the enyojs.com site instead of locally ?
Oct 02 21:18:31 <fxspec06> that's probably not what you want to do
Oct 02 21:18:44 <fxspec06> it's included in the enyo source download, i believe
Oct 02 21:18:50 <fxspec06> it's just not in the 'enyo' folder
Oct 02 21:18:54 <dcramer> fxspec06: ok, thx
Oct 02 21:19:18 <fxspec06> as soon as you include that, list should work fine
Oct 02 21:20:05 <fxspec06> meanwhile, i'm trying to battle blackberry..
Oct 02 21:20:15 <dcramer> fxspec06: sorry to hear that
Oct 02 21:20:43 <fxspec06> it's ok, i just need my tin foil hat. i've done this a few times
Oct 02 21:25:50 <rawtaz> this channel is really active
Oct 02 21:25:54 <rawtaz> +1 for that
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