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Nov 16 10:03:37 <slcort> i want a panel to dynamically change the number of rows/columns it has in a grid based on the size of the page. how/when can i find the size of the control and dynamically adjust the grid layout?
Nov 16 16:12:20 <olafura> Is Cole Davis or anyone working on the MVC around?
Nov 16 16:17:19 <olafura> BTW if somebody is interested I made this: https://github.com/olafura/datacontrol I have to merge the Panel stuff i did for my presentation software.
Nov 16 16:17:59 <olafura> I'm also working on commenting the code. It's a proof of concept at this point.
Nov 16 16:18:22 <olafura> But a fully functional one
Nov 16 16:21:55 <olafura> I'm also doing a proof of concept enyoizing pouch and it works getting and setting (alldocs, bulkupdate, remove) to a indexeddb. I'm working on it passing the test suite in pouch as an adapter and I've had some success. I think i'm really stress testing Async.
Nov 16 16:22:18 <olafura> Enyo.Async that is
Nov 16 16:24:05 <olafura> my pouch rework is going to be using signal and Async for callback
Nov 16 16:25:23 <olafura> so signal for things that need to update them selfs, controls and such  and views. Then the async for the ones that want to chain some thing together and also get their data back from get
Nov 16 20:39:39 <olafura> when is the best time to chat here?
Nov 16 21:05:28 <katratxo> olafura: why 'Control' and not 'Component' ? afaik the concept of a Control is a DOM bound Component
Nov 16 21:07:12 <olafura> Because I'm relying on setValue, I was tossing on this an I can easily change.
Nov 16 21:07:52 <olafura> katratxo I'm always forgetting to include the name in the reply :)
Nov 16 21:09:46 <katratxo> olafura: np, just wondering
Nov 16 21:31:26 <olafura> katratxo I'm just worried that the MVC is somewhat similar to what I'm doing
Nov 16 21:34:55 <katratxo> olafura: well mvc as a concept es more than that, but yes, it seems that people is trying to solve the data handling problem
Nov 16 21:35:54 <katratxo> in the 2.1 release notes, they said that data binding/handling was some of the features comming
Nov 16 21:37:44 <olafura> katratxo yes that is what I saw to, there are to many places where people seem to be. It would be nice to have an announcement mail list to tell people what they are working on
Nov 16 21:38:38 <olafura> katratxo I'm looking at bug reports  and the new projects on github to find out more
Nov 16 21:39:17 <olafura> katratxo I don't know it MVC is the best model for the browser though
Nov 16 21:39:51 <katratxo> there is a google group for enyo development
Nov 16 21:40:03 <olafura> and I'm on it
Nov 16 21:40:18 <katratxo> ha!
Nov 16 21:40:32 <katratxo> i just saw your post
Nov 16 21:40:57 <olafura> katratxo I even talked about what I was doing some time ago but got no answer
Nov 16 21:42:24 <katratxo> :s
Nov 16 21:44:50 <katratxo> olafura: check the issue ENYO-1390
Nov 16 21:45:18 <olafura> katratxo I have it open
Nov 16 21:46:33 <olafura> I even talked about this in august on this channel then on 1 sept on the mailing list
Nov 16 21:46:36 <katratxo> there is a mvc-binding branch in the repo
Nov 16 21:46:47 <katratxo> didn't know about it
Nov 16 21:48:03 <olafura> katratxo I was going through the patches of that, but I haven't found the exactly how they are going to architecture it
Nov 16 21:50:24 <katratxo> i see similarities with ember? router, controller, bindings at enyo.Object level ?
Nov 16 21:52:04 <olafura> katratxo It seems like a really big architectural change
Nov 16 21:53:03 <katratxo> it is
Nov 16 21:54:14 <olafura> katratxo I don't know if enyo needed it, I'm able to work within the confines without fundamentally change the structure.
Nov 16 21:54:59 <olafura> katratxo but then again because enyo is modular you don't have to use it
Nov 16 21:55:34 <PatrickC> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/2hhcav7xshhum4k/5GEBFBdn_x honest truth for a beginner?
Nov 16 21:59:49 <katratxo> olafura: right, i'm using enyo and representing data with backbone model/collections
Nov 16 22:01:37 * katratxo needs to leave
Nov 16 22:02:05 <olafura> katratxo nice talking to you and good luck on openbravo
Nov 16 22:03:34 <katratxo> hehehe, already search the web?
Nov 16 22:04:04 <olafura> katratxo yes I do tend to do that :)
Nov 16 22:04:34 <katratxo> hehe, np, yes, i'm leading the openbravo mobile effort
Nov 16 22:04:40 <katratxo> now i must go
Nov 16 22:04:41 <olafura> katratxo I better at talking with people in person because there is so much lost on the internet
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