**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Nov 19 02:59:59 2012 Nov 19 14:36:36 is there a way for an object to execute a method when a component is added to it? Nov 19 14:52:32 ugh i got a computer problem Nov 19 14:53:29 what happened? Nov 19 14:53:43 explorer keeps .. crashing Nov 19 14:55:46 well that's your problem. Use a real browser :P Nov 19 14:55:58 no not internet explorer Nov 19 14:56:01 explorer.exe Nov 19 14:56:07 windows Nov 19 14:56:11 oh, that sucks Nov 19 14:56:11 file explorer Nov 19 14:56:13 lol Nov 19 14:56:25 yes. it does very much Nov 19 14:56:42 well, you can get new File Explorers or desktop shells :P Nov 19 15:02:04 Or operating systems :P Nov 19 16:02:31 Windoze is a necessary evil, rrix. How else would you play LoL? Nov 19 16:02:39 What's that? Nov 19 16:02:45 oh Nov 19 16:02:56 LoL ... Nov 19 16:02:57 ? Nov 19 16:03:10 http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/browse/name?app_id=6282 Nov 19 16:03:24 :( Nov 19 16:03:39 that is lol Nov 19 16:05:07 http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=648031 Nov 19 16:05:19 Not that I have any interest in LoL since I had to google what it was but Nov 19 16:06:08 is there any editor out there that can tab-completion for enyo? ;) Nov 19 16:07:09 Not really. I should finish my vim plugin :\ Nov 19 16:07:30 the cindent rules also suck for Enyo Nov 19 16:09:59 hey guys Nov 19 16:10:43 I have an Enyo page that destroys a group of 10 divs, and makes 10 new ones w/ new data Nov 19 16:10:58 and it doesn't seem to be updating in IE8 Nov 19 16:11:53 any ideas what might be causing the problem? IE8 doesn't show any errors on page Nov 19 16:11:59 and it works in FF Nov 19 16:57:11 GodGinrai: are you rendering afterwards? Nov 19 17:01:14 Yes Nov 19 17:08:01 brb, lunch Nov 19 17:24:17 https://github.com/Garfonso/preware-enyo2/blob/master/source/App.js <- any idea why the Panels kind won't show up? Nov 19 17:33:32 Garfonso: is easy to test if you use jsfiddle.net Nov 19 17:44:59 I seem to be doing something wrong with jsfiddle.net... it shows plain nothing in the "result" area. Nov 19 17:50:10 additionally jsfiddle seems to be having severe issues with scrolling in my firefox.. :( Nov 19 18:05:31 here is a "jsfiddle version", which is doing nothing on my browsers: http://jsfiddle.net/xUjSu/2/ :( Nov 19 18:31:28 summatusmentis: back Nov 19 19:03:46 Garfonso: There's an error in it. :P Nov 19 19:03:54 Use the javascript console always. Nov 19 19:04:51 Fixed: http://jsfiddle.net/xUjSu/3/ Nov 19 19:05:50 ok, fixed that, too... now for the real question: why doesn't it display the panel control? Nov 19 19:08:48 https://deals.macgasm.net/giveaways/dropbox-pro-for-life?gid=206846 Nov 19 19:09:48 Because you have failed to set a height for the panels. They're 0px tall. Try right clicking on the app and inspecting the elements. Nov 19 19:10:37 You need to put them into a FittableRow. Nov 19 19:10:44 That might be one way. Nov 19 19:11:25 See the end of: https://github.com/enyojs/enyo/wiki/Debugging Nov 19 19:14:31 lol.. ok.. thanks. ;) Nov 19 19:25:43 GodGinrai: that was my only idea, I don't test in IE (because I'm not targeting the web yet) Nov 19 19:30:24 :/ Nov 19 23:41:08 What would be the best approach to designing a username/password login screen using enyo? Nov 19 23:46:16 I use a popup, with fields, and an enyo.Ajax Nov 19 23:46:36 and some logic for validation of the input (proper email format and things) Nov 19 23:48:19 Cool, yeah, I was attempting to use a popup also, just wasn't sure if that was the correct approach... So you use the kind: "enyo.Popup" Nov 19 23:57:04 this is how i do in neo: http://i.imgur.com/NMs4i.jpg Nov 19 23:57:20 I'm not sure there's a "correct" approach, necessarily Nov 19 23:57:20 minus the whole, icons not being there thing.. Nov 19 23:57:49 I usually use onyx.Popup, but enyo.Popup should work just fine too Nov 19 23:57:58 right, there's no correct approach. be creative, if you need inspiration take a look at the stock apps Nov 19 23:58:21 they try to have some consistency across everything. Nov 19 23:58:39 do, or do not, there is no try Nov 19 23:58:46 be consistent, it's good UI design Nov 20 00:00:08 except when the design is poor, then consistency would be a bad thing! Nov 20 00:02:59 well, if the design is poor, that's the real issue, not the consistency Nov 20 00:03:20 lol Nov 20 00:03:25 and even in a poor design, consistency provides the user with less cognitive overhead Nov 20 00:07:19 touche Nov 20 00:07:39 :) Nov 20 00:22:00 http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/classes/sp06/cse171/papers/poor_math_interface.png Nov 20 00:22:18 from.. http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/classes/sp06/cse171/math-master.html lol **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Nov 20 02:59:57 2012