**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jan 07 02:59:59 2013 Jan 07 03:37:39 <_minego> So after a lot of debug, scrolling is actually working on the pre3... just VERY slowly... It seems to get an event every 3 to 5 seconds.... *sigh* Jan 07 03:37:46 <_minego> I guess I have more debug to do tomorrow Jan 07 03:38:04 <_minego> It is SMOOTH on the TouchPad and in chrome though Jan 07 03:38:51 yeah. this is the wall i'm running into Jan 07 03:40:35 it's as if the pre3's memory isn't fast enough to load enyo, and then it doesn't know how to render all the "invisible" nodes faster than painfully slow Jan 07 03:41:26 i mentioned problem to few people, sadly i believe i'm one of the few who has the potential to find a solution Jan 07 03:44:28 <_minego> That's not what it seems like to me... Jan 07 03:44:35 <_minego> When I flick on the pre3 it scrolls nice and smooth... Jan 07 03:44:46 <_minego> But if I hold my finger down it is EXTREMELY slow Jan 07 03:45:01 yeah, try pulling a pulldown list Jan 07 03:45:03 <_minego> I think there is something wonky going on with the events Jan 07 03:45:12 drag is not right Jan 07 03:45:38 <_minego> My app is (at least so far) very smooth for everything else though, so I don't believe it is running out of resources Jan 07 03:46:01 also, when i launch my app, it doesn't render immediately...... i ahve to zoom out, zoom in, rotate etc to force re-render Jan 07 03:46:14 <_minego> err... weird Jan 07 03:46:58 and other things too, i feel it rotates far too fast, and it takes it a few sec to render during and after Jan 07 03:47:16 idk, i'm afraid these phones were not intended for enyo 2. Jan 07 03:47:35 <_minego> Well since the phones where canceled before enyo 2 came out, I think that is a fairly accurate statement Jan 07 03:48:44 lol. i mean, it's possible a 1-1.4ghz device can render this stuff smoothly... and be a good experience. maybe not great. but i keep hitting these roadblocks Jan 07 03:51:09 how i dream of the phone that runs a web app the way chrome does. haven't used recent ANDROID or IPHONE w/ web app, but i'd guess even those today are subpar Jan 07 03:52:02 <_minego> In my experience on android if you run an app in chrome for android it runs very nicely. If you run it in phonegap it runs pretty badly. Jan 07 03:52:27 <_minego> That being said, I haven't tried recent phoengap or enyo 2 on android. Last I was playing with that was enyo 1. Hopefully it has improved. Jan 07 03:53:05 <_minego> Anyway, I'm going to go veg Jan 07 03:53:08 <_minego> later Jan 07 03:53:10 enyo2 from what i've seen in the emulator does not run well on android. =| Jan 07 03:53:13 heh. ttyl Jan 07 03:53:26 <_minego> Nothing runs well in the android emulator Jan 07 03:53:43 lol, i bet google data collection runs great Jan 07 18:41:34 does cordova support in-app forward swipe and backswipe to change scenes? Jan 07 18:51:22 ka6sox-away: I don't think so...yet. I know swisstomcat was going to be looking at adding the back-gesture support Jan 07 18:52:32 he made some progress the other night. he got backswipe working, but i don't think forward will ever work. best let that go Jan 07 18:52:51 unless sugardave knows something about forward swipe that we don't Jan 07 18:52:56 sucks Jan 07 18:53:03 no, I don't know anything Jan 07 18:53:11 yeah. that's unfortunate too Jan 07 18:53:14 blah Jan 07 18:53:16 because I have a mobile app that really would benefit from it Jan 07 18:53:42 you should try to ask mattb if you can find him Jan 07 18:53:57 i think he would know most likely, whether or not it is possible Jan 07 18:56:25 sugardave: nobody left there that worked on mojo? =( Jan 07 19:03:49 wow, very few probably Jan 07 20:24:13 <_minego> If someone knows how to get forward swipe to work I'd love to find out. Jan 07 20:24:43 <_minego> It isn't the end of the world to not have it, but especially for the sake of porting old mojo apps it would be nice to support it Jan 07 20:25:42 it is one of two things: 1. it is an event, and nobody knows the name for it or 2. it's a fake event that's manufactured on the fly, and the code is buried deep inside compiled webos 1.4.5/2.0/2.1 code Jan 07 20:27:32 most likely it's #2, and they had to jump through hoops to even get it to register on 2.0. -__- Jan 07 20:28:05 if there is an event for it to capture, though......... O.O Jan 07 20:52:52 we know what it is for 3.0.5 and beyond Jan 07 21:03:31 <_minego> There has to be someone that knows, or knows where to look in source... Jan 07 21:05:11 this question goes far back, too **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jan 08 02:59:58 2013