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Jan 17 03:02:19 <phil_bw> So what is the app you're writing? (I just followed you on twitter so as to not be so clueless in the future)
Jan 17 03:04:12 <_minego> A twitter client
Jan 17 03:04:18 <phil_bw> Ah
Jan 17 03:04:28 <_minego> It is a port (well, rewrite... it is entirely new code) of Project Macaw for webOS
Jan 17 03:05:56 <phil_bw> I see. This may not surprise you (after hearing about my stance on flash), but I've found I like the stock twitter client the best
Jan 17 03:06:46 <phil_bw> I'd be happy to try yours when it's ready though
Jan 17 03:12:46 <_minego> phil_bw: Thanks. I appreciate that.
Jan 17 11:12:45 <dcramer> anyone seeing internet outage
Jan 17 11:13:05 <dcramer> strangely enough only some protocols
Jan 17 18:46:59 <GodGinrai> hey guys, where is the Panels kind defined?
Jan 17 18:47:14 <GodGinrai> My Enyo is acting like it doesn't know what it is
Jan 17 18:54:38 <GodGinrai> anyone here?
Jan 17 18:58:42 <HaDAk> nope
Jan 17 18:59:43 <GodGinrai> >:(
Jan 17 18:59:57 <HaDAk> what's up?
Jan 17 19:00:34 <GodGinrai> I'm trying to use Panels
Jan 17 19:00:49 <GodGinrai> but my version of Enyo is acting like they don't exist
Jan 17 19:04:19 <HaDAk> what version? what have you tried? what's it doing?
Jan 17 19:04:57 <GodGinrai> 2.1.1
Jan 17 19:05:02 <GodGinrai> IIRC
Jan 17 19:17:39 <GodGinrai> I tried, kind: Panels, and that gave "Panels is not defined"
Jan 17 19:18:12 <GodGinrai> then, I tried kind: "Panels" (as well as Enyo. and onyx. equivs)
Jan 17 19:18:44 <GodGinrai> and got: Attempt to subclass an undefined kind
Jan 17 19:18:58 <HaDAk> sorry, got tied up at work.
Jan 17 19:19:02 <HaDAk> lemme see what i've got in mine
Jan 17 19:19:11 <GodGinrai> s'ok.  So did I XD
Jan 17 19:19:45 <HaDAk> https://github.com/skipmeister123/preware-enyo2/blob/master/source/App.js
Jan 17 19:19:50 <HaDAk> i've got panels in that
Jan 17 19:20:00 <HaDAk> chrome is being a hooker though
Jan 17 19:20:04 <HaDAk> and won't let me load pages properly
Jan 17 19:20:13 <HaDAk> maybe because i've got too many tabs open XD
Jan 17 19:41:41 <GodGinrai> that's why you need to use Firefox :P
Jan 17 19:42:05 <GodGinrai> 534 tabs and still going strong :)
Jan 17 19:44:51 <GodGinrai> oh
Jan 17 19:44:55 <GodGinrai> got it working
Jan 17 19:45:03 <GodGinrai> stupid mistake on my part
Jan 17 19:45:23 <GodGinrai> However, now I have to figure out how to actually use panels :(
Jan 17 19:45:34 <GodGinrai> since I can't nav to github 0 work
Jan 17 19:45:37 <GodGinrai> *@
Jan 17 19:47:50 <GodGinrai> anyone know a good panels tutorial that isn't on github?
Jan 17 19:54:36 <NuttyBunny> Enyo runs on firefox???
Jan 17 19:55:02 <GodGinrai> yea
Jan 17 19:55:09 <GodGinrai> why wouldn't it?
Jan 17 19:55:16 <GodGinrai> It runs in IE, too
Jan 17 19:55:28 <GodGinrai> albeit a bit more buggy
Jan 17 19:57:07 <GodGinrai> seriously, I don't even know how to get Panels to display anything
Jan 17 19:57:18 <GodGinrai> could someone help me here?
Jan 17 20:05:38 <GodGinrai> summatus1entis: you there?
Jan 17 20:06:27 <GodGinrai> fxspec06 or sugardave, as well?
Jan 17 20:20:33 <GodGinrai> so many people that are idle... T_T
Jan 17 20:23:18 <summatus1entis> I'm here
Jan 17 20:25:19 <GodGinrai> know anything about Panels?
Jan 17 20:26:23 <summatusmentis> I've used them
Jan 17 20:26:39 <summatusmentis> do you have specific questions?
Jan 17 20:26:50 <GodGinrai> yes.
Jan 17 20:27:11 <GodGinrai> I am trying to create an interface w/ 1 visible panel
Jan 17 20:27:44 <GodGinrai> with other ones that slide in and out like the view source panel in the sampler
Jan 17 20:28:10 <GodGinrai> except I don't want to dynamically create my panels like the view source one does
Jan 17 20:28:29 <summatusmentis> so like how it slides in from the left when you click "View source"?
Jan 17 20:28:29 <GodGinrai> The problem is, I don't even know the basics for using Panels
Jan 17 20:28:49 <GodGinrai> yea, and then slides out in the opposite direction
Jan 17 20:29:32 <summatusmentis> ok, so you want to use the CarouselArranger, and set the width of each panel to be 100%
Jan 17 20:30:20 <GodGinrai> ok.
Jan 17 20:30:40 <summatusmentis> and you don't need to dynamically create your panels
Jan 17 20:30:51 <summatusmentis> check out the Arranger Sampler
Jan 17 20:32:39 <GodGinrai> now the problem is, I don't have anything displaying on the screen.
Jan 17 20:32:52 <GodGinrai> I'm not sure I'm using the panels right
Jan 17 20:34:54 <GodGinrai> ah, I think I figured out why it did that
Jan 17 20:56:33 <fxspec06_> panels is part of onyx
Jan 17 20:56:48 <fxspec06_> or, it's part of enyo, but you have to include it i think
Jan 17 20:58:03 <fxspec06_> it's lib/layout
Jan 17 20:58:08 <fxspec06_> it's not part of core enyo.
Jan 17 21:18:12 <GodGinrai> hey summatusmentis, Is there a way to do a vertical toolbar that would be the only part of the panel that could be dragged to transition to the next panel?
Jan 17 21:19:13 <GodGinrai> yea, fxspec06_, I found that out. :)  I wasn't including lib/layout
Jan 17 21:21:38 <summatusmentis> a vertical toolbar? I'm not aware of anything built into Enyo like that
Jan 17 21:22:03 <summatusmentis> and I don't know if there's enough control over panels to make only part of it draggable
Jan 17 21:22:17 <GodGinrai> well, do you know if it is just possible to make only one part of a panel draggable?
Jan 17 21:22:17 <summatusmentis> I imagine there's a way to do it, but I don't think it'll be super straightforward
Jan 17 21:22:38 <GodGinrai> hrm
Jan 17 21:22:56 <GodGinrai> so a button is probably my best bet?
Jan 17 21:43:17 <fxspec06_> oh hey if you want a panels demo i can give you the source for cribbage board
Jan 17 21:43:29 <fxspec06_> it's pretty small, and rather cute
Jan 17 21:50:58 <GodGinrai> that would be interesting.  I may ask for that tomorrow
Jan 17 21:51:07 <GodGinrai> I'm heading out in 10 min.
Jan 17 21:58:34 <GodGinrai> cya guys
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