**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 27 02:59:58 2013 Feb 27 03:47:04 LG tv anyone excited? Feb 27 18:53:23 * madnificent is thinking about a major tasks@hand overhaul again Feb 27 20:24:56 hey guys Feb 27 20:43:30 hey Feb 27 21:25:25 Is there anything like Chosen for Enyo? or do I need to make something like that myself? Feb 27 22:38:37 what is Chosen? Feb 27 22:41:54 It's a jquery||prototype plugin that will style select boxes into searchable comboboxes or tagboxes Feb 27 22:42:35 oh, I don't believe there's anything like that Feb 27 22:42:41 but I'm not really familiar with it Feb 27 22:42:59 ok Feb 27 23:15:01 https://twitter.com/fxspec06/status/306905197521817600 >> jump for some free download figures Feb 27 23:15:14 active users is steady Feb 27 23:15:22 just flat, and low. but steady Feb 27 23:17:22 hmm. i wonder where LG HQ is located Feb 27 23:18:06 SK Feb 27 23:18:15 Seoul, specifically Feb 27 23:18:19 i also wonder if they need a engineer and if they'd want to like, reach out to me and offer me a job in place of finishing a bachelor's degree.... Feb 27 23:18:36 * fxspec06_ HINT HINT LG (if you want to succeed.... =D) Feb 27 23:18:47 * fxspec06_ jk (kinda) Feb 27 23:21:44 wait, did LG buy the enyo team? Feb 27 23:24:58 hrm, i am 99% sure this is what i read. Feb 27 23:25:13 actually Feb 27 23:28:39 It sounded like they bought them, but HP still plans to contribute Feb 27 23:29:06 or, the fact that HP still plans to contribute could mean that they kept the Enyo team Feb 27 23:29:11 i thought sugardave said yesterday in webos-ports (which i was BANNED from BTW) Feb 27 23:29:16 that enyo was going with Feb 27 23:29:34 why were you banned from webos-ports? Feb 27 23:29:55 idk. you'd have to talk to my netgear router for a proper explanation. Feb 27 23:30:05 something about the 2.4ghz spectrum, and noise Feb 27 23:30:28 o_ Feb 27 23:30:39 * o_ô Feb 27 23:32:48 yes, tomorrow will be the end of my days at HPalm and Friday starts my new days at LG Feb 27 23:35:10 interesting Feb 27 23:35:15 someone should update enyojs.com then Feb 27 23:35:21 the jobs link points to HP positions Feb 27 23:35:27 and campuses point to Sunnyvale Feb 27 23:35:43 LG Silicon Valley Lab is the same building Feb 27 23:35:51 I'm sure website changes will come Feb 27 23:36:02 seriously, I just heard about all this Monday morning Feb 27 23:36:31 ooh, I didn't realize LG had a lab there Feb 27 23:36:40 we are it :) Feb 27 23:37:18 so it's a new name Feb 27 23:37:52 basically Feb 27 23:37:58 So, question. Feb 27 23:38:27 First, HP said they would continue to contribute to Enyo Feb 27 23:38:39 new name, but a bunch of processes to go through to "switch over" to different networks/processes/etc Feb 27 23:38:40 how will they do that if LG is taking you guys? Feb 27 23:38:44 another group? Feb 27 23:39:59 Enyo remains an open source project, so they can contribute directly through pull requests, etc. There's also Ares teams that were HP enterprise services that will continue their work, but remain HP Feb 27 23:40:03 stuff like that Feb 27 23:40:26 ok Feb 27 23:40:39 LG is the new parent company, but the source is still open Feb 27 23:40:47 yep yep Feb 27 23:41:00 and you're all now LG employees Feb 27 23:41:05 and this one is unrelated to the LG stuff, but I've been wondering: Feb 27 23:41:15 the message is that LG is committed to the open source work on Open webOS and Enyo Feb 27 23:41:28 summatusmentis: on Friday, yeah Feb 27 23:41:40 Why isn't the whole Enyo site built in Enyo? And why does the OWOS site not use ANY Enyo? Feb 27 23:42:20 messages are trite Feb 27 23:42:39 well, I say "message" when I mean impression Feb 27 23:42:45 that's my impression Feb 27 23:43:09 GodGinrai: I will direct you to arthurthornton for web site dev questions :) but, he isn't here Feb 27 23:43:54 lolol Feb 27 23:44:15 sugardave: ah, so not "official statement that you're obligated to repeat" Feb 27 23:44:23 just your perspective Feb 27 23:44:35 yeah Feb 27 23:45:55 I just hope that when LG does end up releasing a webOS TV that they give you a way to upgrade their Google TVs to WebOS Feb 27 23:46:32 I'm just wondering if my employee discount will apply to those sweet webOS TVs! Feb 27 23:46:57 I got one of their GTVs in Dec, and due to Google just sitting around w/ their thumbs up their ass, GTV is nothing more than a glorified Youtube app Feb 27 23:46:59 :) Feb 27 23:47:14 GodGinrai: weak Feb 27 23:47:26 It has less apps than WebOS Feb 27 23:47:40 because Google TV doesn't support NDK Feb 27 23:48:11 so, generally the LG thing is positive for Enyo? Feb 27 23:48:33 visionary: I don't think that's really clear yet. It depends on who you ask. Feb 27 23:48:58 I consider it a neutral thing until they either do something stupid or make me want to hug theem Feb 27 23:49:01 *them Feb 27 23:49:24 let's be clear here, some employees articulated that the HP thing was a positive for webOS, and we've seen how that went Feb 27 23:49:37 don't get sucked into "this is good" or "this is bad" Feb 27 23:49:39 it just is Feb 27 23:49:58 I'm hoping that LG will see it as a better course of action to be our friends :) Feb 27 23:50:39 I care nothing about the tv prospects Feb 27 23:50:51 I take it as a gneral positive (outside of my paycheck) because of one thing: there is now an actual hardware company that wants some webOS hardware. Enyo is the perfect companion for developing on webOS, so we just glom on there :) Feb 27 23:50:57 my roku serves just fine for "smart tv" stuff Feb 27 23:51:12 omg, TVs running Enyo apps….it's going to make me jealous of not being an indie app dev ;) Feb 27 23:51:15 if they build out a webOS ecosystem stuff, then that's interesting Feb 27 23:51:35 summatusmentis: I don't TOO much, but given the chance, I would trade the GoogleTV installed on my TV for WebOS Feb 27 23:51:41 I mean, fine Feb 27 23:52:02 but TV's interaction mechanisms are boring, and make it hard to do anything other than passive content receiving Feb 27 23:52:44 sure, there are going to be certain apps that won't work well on a TV, but you bet your ass people are still going to buy way too many apps they don't need for their televisions Feb 27 23:52:46 well, it depends Feb 27 23:52:48 I don't really see what webOS on a tv gets you Feb 27 23:52:54 if Google TV had NDK Feb 27 23:53:33 I could hook my Retrode up to my TV, plug in some Genesis controllers, and play Sonic&Knuckles Feb 27 23:53:59 It depends on how you try to use it Feb 27 23:54:30 I agree that WebOS would be much better for phones and tablets Feb 27 23:54:43 summatusmentis: you'll have to wait and see what's going to be on there, I guess :) Feb 27 23:54:47 I'm intrigued by what Ubuntu is doing in the mobile space Feb 27 23:54:48 But I don't think you should rule out Smart TV OSes Feb 27 23:55:10 None of them are currently doing it right, which is the reason they seem so useless Feb 27 23:55:22 I'm not trying to rule them out, it's great to have a bunch of content providers on a TV, but I think the platform is inherently limited Feb 27 23:56:15 and I think the creators of the content are economically incentivized to stay their course, and limit disruption in that space Feb 27 23:56:26 (in case you wanted a bunch of buzzwords) Feb 27 23:57:07 Well, LG might want to create disruption to attempt to catch up w/ Sammy in sales Feb 27 23:57:33 I sorta feel like LG doesn't have any clout with HBO/Disney/etc. Feb 27 23:57:55 needless to say, I hope that they use the card analogy for channels :) Feb 27 23:58:15 when you say channels, do you mean tv channels? Feb 27 23:58:28 or TV vs. netflix vs. other "apps"? Feb 27 23:58:37 yes, but not for the channel list Feb 27 23:58:45 because I can't imagine... oh Feb 27 23:58:56 rather for channels you are interested in switching between Feb 27 23:59:01 was gonna say, navigating 500 cards because you have a cable package would be awful Feb 27 23:59:11 I can't wait until they send me one of these to test on: http://www.lg.com/us/tvs/lg-84LM9600-led-tv Feb 27 23:59:13 ikr? XD Feb 27 23:59:34 sugardave: for your home of course Feb 27 23:59:41 so you can test "in the real world" Feb 27 23:59:41 keep dreaming dave Feb 27 23:59:44 "home office" yeah Feb 27 23:59:50 lol Feb 28 00:00:07 the new house we're looking at getting has a "media room" that I can easily say is my office :) Feb 28 00:42:01 sugardave: does this mean we can officially bash the hell out of HP now for being dumb? Feb 28 00:42:19 sugardave: or do you have to stay "polite" to your former employer.. Feb 28 00:42:51 (without fear for repercussions) Feb 28 00:45:02 * fxspec06_ assuming there are hard feelings left ..... Feb 28 00:47:11 it's always good policy to keep your bridges intact :) Feb 28 00:48:57 what are bridges for, if not jumping off or burning? Feb 28 00:49:42 ah yes, the bridges. well, i will try to pick up some slack for you Feb 28 00:50:58 hey sugardave if LG is looking for webos interns during the summer... or... if they are willing to "open a spot" o.O by some means of... power of coercion... that is something that i might possibly maybe be interested in. possibly. Feb 28 00:51:46 * fxspec06_ wonders how LG enthusiasm will be Feb 28 00:54:05 so it turns out that LG doesn't have an internship program and we're doing things to move our current interns into temporary positions. i suspect it will be a little while before everything is running smoothly again as far as hiring and stuff like that….we'll see how it goes Feb 28 00:54:37 sugardave: So that means the internship position I wanted is no longer existent? Feb 28 00:55:33 I don't know, but you might want to ping whoever it was you applied with and see if they know more **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Feb 28 02:59:58 2013