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May 28 13:38:32 <pmarsh_> got a problem with the scrim disappearing
May 28 13:39:02 <pmarsh_> seems if we destroy the control that it initally is used on we can't bring it back, is it like the modal popups you can't destroy without it screwing things up
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May 28 15:49:11 <GodGinrai> hey all
May 28 16:33:46 <summatusmentis> hi GodGinrai
May 28 16:34:20 <GodGinrai> hey summatusmentis.  How was your weekend?
May 28 16:35:44 <summatusmentis> pretty good, my family was in town, and I got to see a friend from undergrad who lives in a different state
May 28 16:38:34 <GodGinrai> nice
May 28 16:42:57 <summatusmentis> indeed
May 28 16:51:06 <GodGinrai> hey Roy__away, is that your PowerPoint for  the O'Reilly Fluent conference that I found on Google?  Because if so, I don't think the example package.js in the slides is working code.
May 28 16:52:18 <GodGinrai> ah, that was from 2012
May 28 16:52:55 <GodGinrai> thought it was for this year.  Also, just noticed it lists Ben there on the title slide. <.<
May 28 16:57:00 <GodGinrai> So, summatusmentis, how's your Enyo code coming?
May 28 16:57:21 <summatusmentis> I'm working on re-designing the UI mechanisms so it's cleaner
May 28 16:57:40 <GodGinrai> Also, love your nick because my Pre3 doesn't even attempt to correct it even though it doesn't recognize it.. :)
May 28 16:57:45 <GodGinrai> ah, neat
May 28 16:58:03 <summatusmentis> hah :)
May 28 16:58:26 <summatusmentis> yeah, it's ok, I'm just trying to figure out whatthe best UI for our form-type thing is
May 28 16:59:39 <GodGinrai> yea, there's a lot of different ways to take it
May 28 17:10:54 <summatusmentis> do you use any of the scrollTo* functions on a List?
May 28 17:11:40 <summatusmentis> either scrollToEnd() or scrollToRow(endIndex) seems to jump past the end index if the list is shorter than the height allotted
May 28 17:21:22 <GodGinrai> I don't use List, remember?
May 28 17:21:44 <GodGinrai> anyway, what do you mean by if the List is shorter than the height alotted?
May 28 17:22:52 <summatusmentis> if there are fewer items in the list, so it doesn't need to scroll to bottom
May 28 17:22:59 <summatusmentis> right, I forgot you're not using List
May 28 17:34:59 <HaDAk> i need some css advice.
May 28 17:35:05 <HaDAk> not enyo related, but you guys can probably help
May 28 17:35:26 <HaDAk> i have a div, with an image inside that div. the image will be a randomly sized image.
May 28 17:35:31 <GodGinrai> sure thing, HaDAk
May 28 17:35:41 <HaDAk> i need to vertically center the image.
May 28 17:35:49 <HaDAk> i've tried several methods, but nothing seems to work
May 28 17:36:15 <GodGinrai> HaDAk: use margin: auto on the img
May 28 17:36:22 <GodGinrai> oh wait
May 28 17:36:26 <GodGinrai> vertically
May 28 17:36:29 <GodGinrai> lol
May 28 17:36:35 <GodGinrai> ignore that
May 28 17:37:07 <HaDAk> yeah
May 28 17:38:08 <GodGinrai> vertical alignment is a tough thing to do in CSS.  There are many ways to do it, but not one specific way that works in all cases
May 28 17:38:18 <HaDAk> what about with jquery?
May 28 17:38:29 <GodGinrai> I'd need to know more to know what to suggest
May 28 17:38:39 <HaDAk> http://beta.hanskokx.com
May 28 17:38:39 <GodGinrai> jQuery would not help at all
May 28 17:39:03 <GodGinrai> ok
May 28 17:39:11 <GodGinrai> m looking at it
May 28 17:39:18 <GodGinrai> *I'm
May 28 17:39:20 <HaDAk> you'll have to click either left or right to see
May 28 17:39:46 <GodGinrai> ok
May 28 17:39:53 <GodGinrai> I see double images
May 28 17:39:58 <GodGinrai> is that intended?
May 28 17:39:59 <HaDAk> correct
May 28 17:40:00 <HaDAk> yes.
May 28 17:40:04 <GodGinrai> k
May 28 17:40:37 <GodGinrai> and you want the smaller one to be centered vertically?
May 28 17:43:17 <HaDAk> yes
May 28 17:47:13 <GodGinrai> looking at it right now
May 28 17:48:02 <HaDAk> fwiw, the background image will be blurred. just working on a less intensive process of doing that.
May 28 17:48:09 <HaDAk> probably server-side instead of clientside
May 28 17:48:21 <GodGinrai> k
May 28 17:50:20 <GodGinrai> what are your browser requirements?
May 28 17:50:25 <GodGinrai> for this site
May 28 17:52:32 <HaDAk> presently, quite modern
May 28 17:52:38 <HaDAk> it doesn't load in IE8.
May 28 17:52:43 <HaDAk> it loads in firefox, safari and chrome
May 28 17:52:46 <HaDAk> that's good enough for me for now
May 28 17:52:50 <HaDAk> quit refreshing
May 28 17:52:53 <HaDAk> i broke it :P
May 28 17:52:58 <GodGinrai> lol
May 28 17:54:07 * GodGinrai hits refresh again
May 28 17:54:09 <GodGinrai> :P
May 28 17:56:16 <HaDAk> you can refresh now
May 28 17:56:24 <HaDAk> background image is still broken, but i'm working on it :P
May 28 18:01:35 <GodGinrai> So, if you're fine w/ saying screw you to IE, then the simplest method would be to use Flexboxes
May 28 18:09:36 <HaDAk> interesting
May 28 18:09:47 <HaDAk> omfg, why is php.net donw?
May 28 18:09:49 <HaDAk> this sucks.
May 28 18:12:53 <GodGinrai> HaDAk: try us3.php.net
May 28 18:15:14 <HaDAk> god, php is frustrating.
May 28 18:15:33 <GodGinrai> lol, how so?
May 28 18:15:37 <GodGinrai> PHP is so easy
May 28 18:15:37 <HaDAk> i just want to server side blur an image. why can't it apply the transform to an existing image? why do i need to create a resource out of it first?
May 28 18:15:55 <HaDAk> well, tell me how to use imageconvolution() then :P
May 28 18:16:21 <HaDAk> $gaussian = array(array(1.0, 2.0, 1.0), array(2.0, 4.0, 2.0), array(1.0, 2.0, 1.0));
May 28 18:16:21 <HaDAk> $image = imagecreatefromjpeg("./images/slideshow/CRW_9237-Edit.jpg");
May 28 18:16:21 <HaDAk> echo '<img src="'.imageconvolution(imagejpeg($image, 'image.jpeg'), $gaussian, 16, 0).'"></img>';
May 28 18:16:25 <HaDAk> cause that doesn't work
May 28 18:16:45 <HaDAk> well, i also added testing imagejpeg() in there. that doesn't help. hah.
May 28 18:16:56 <HaDAk> replace imagejpeg() with $image. still doesn't work.
May 28 18:17:11 <GodGinrai> why not use the imagick PHP stuff instead?
May 28 18:17:29 <HaDAk> i'm not opposed
May 28 18:17:32 <GodGinrai> it even has a function called: Imagick::blurImage
May 28 18:17:43 <HaDAk> i saw that, but couldn't find an example…cause php.net is being a douche
May 28 18:18:18 <GodGinrai> like I said
May 28 18:18:24 <GodGinrai> use the us3 mirrorr
May 28 18:18:25 <HaDAk> yeah. i just tried that
May 28 18:18:28 <HaDAk> it's up.
May 28 18:18:31 <GodGinrai> :)
May 28 18:20:32 <GodGinrai> also, echoing HTML tags is just begging for syntax errors
May 28 18:21:36 <GodGinrai> Stick with leaving PHP to print stuff, or if you must use echo (which you really shouldn't need to), then use heredoc syntax
May 28 18:22:02 <HaDAk> not familiar
May 28 18:22:06 <HaDAk> also, imagemagick just shit all over me
May 28 18:22:08 <HaDAk> http://beta.hanskokx.com/test.php
May 28 18:22:40 <GodGinrai> lol
May 28 18:23:02 <GodGinrai> what's your code?
May 28 18:23:14 <HaDAk> i think i need to wrap that in another function
May 28 18:25:08 <HaDAk> $image = new Imagick("./images/slideshow/CRW_9237-Edit.jpg");
May 28 18:25:09 <HaDAk> $image->blurImage(5,3);
May 28 18:25:09 <HaDAk> echo '<img src="'.$image->displayImage().'"></img>';
May 28 18:25:18 <HaDAk> [Tue May 28 14:24:55 2013] [error] [client 71.227.127.64] PHP Warning:  Imagick::displayimage() expects exactly 1 parameter, 0 given in /var/www/hanskokx-beta/test.php on line 4
May 28 18:25:27 <HaDAk> oh, i think i know.
May 28 18:26:10 <HaDAk> yeah, nope.
May 28 18:26:12 <HaDAk> it hates that too
May 28 18:26:17 <GodGinrai> that's not how displayImage works
May 28 18:26:23 <HaDAk> well, idfk
May 28 18:26:26 <HaDAk> >.>
May 28 18:26:33 <GodGinrai> that's for displaying the image on an X Server
May 28 18:26:40 <HaDAk> that would explain the next error
May 28 18:26:41 <HaDAk> LOL
May 28 18:27:00 <HaDAk> ok, so what do i need to use to display the garbage it spits out as an image?
May 28 18:27:33 <GodGinrai> well, there's a couple of ways to do it
May 28 18:27:42 <GodGinrai> depending on how you want to do it
May 28 18:28:01 <HaDAk> i'd prefer not to write a new file. having base64 in the source is fine for me
May 28 18:28:13 <GodGinrai> if you just print $image, with nothing else printed, that will give you an image
May 28 18:28:55 <GodGinrai> they show that in the example for blurImage
May 28 18:29:26 <HaDAk> $image = new Imagick("./images/slideshow/CRW_9237-Edit.jpg");
May 28 18:29:27 <HaDAk> $image->blurImage(5,3);
May 28 18:29:27 <HaDAk> echo $image;
May 28 18:29:30 <HaDAk> that gives me garbage.
May 28 18:29:37 <HaDAk> http://beta.hanskokx.com/test.php
May 28 18:30:04 <GodGinrai> and that's the only code for the page?
May 28 18:30:08 <HaDAk> yes
May 28 18:30:26 <GodGinrai> you forgot the header call
May 28 18:30:47 <GodGinrai> header('Content-type: image/jpeg');
May 28 18:30:53 <HaDAk> ok, that worked
May 28 18:31:01 <GodGinrai> :)
May 28 18:31:07 <HaDAk> what happens when i try to put this in my page? will header fuck with it?
May 28 18:31:29 <GodGinrai> if you do what I think you are thinking, yes
May 28 18:31:39 <GodGinrai> don't put this in your page
May 28 18:32:00 <HaDAk> ;)
May 28 18:32:01 <GodGinrai> instead, make it take a GET parameter and know the filename based on that
May 28 18:32:33 <GodGinrai> that way, that test.php (or you can call it image.php or something) can create each image
May 28 18:32:51 <GodGinrai> then, in your main page, you would just have:
May 28 18:33:26 <GodGinrai> the CSS refer to the PHP file with the correct parameter
May 28 18:34:13 <GodGinrai> for example, if you were trying to use an img tag to display the image, it would look like this:
May 28 18:34:46 <GodGinrai> <img src="test.php?parameters=something" />
May 28 18:41:37 <HaDAk> i broke something else now
May 28 18:41:38 <HaDAk> wtf.
May 28 18:44:38 <HaDAk> bitchin
May 28 18:44:40 <HaDAk> it works :)
May 28 18:44:46 <HaDAk> http://beta.hanskokx.com
May 28 18:44:59 <HaDAk> i just need to put a scrim while it loads
May 28 18:45:05 <HaDAk> and figure out how to vertically center the image
May 28 18:45:38 <HaDAk> also, i need to figure out how to preload all the images
May 28 18:46:56 <summatusmentis> that affect is weird on the image viewer
May 28 18:47:10 <summatusmentis> the "center the image on top of the same image in the background"
May 28 18:47:25 <GodGinrai> cool cool :)
May 28 18:47:42 <GodGinrai> summatusmentis: he wants it in the center
May 28 18:47:50 <GodGinrai> that was his original question
May 28 18:48:00 <summatusmentis> I get that, I just find the whole "double image" thing distracting
May 28 18:48:32 <summatusmentis> but, maybe that's just me
May 28 18:48:33 <GodGinrai> it looks better centered, I can vouch for it
May 28 18:50:53 <GodGinrai> btw HaDAk, how come you're not using Enyo for this Imageviewer?
May 28 18:51:59 <HaDAk> i don't know enyo that well, nor how to integrate enyo and php
May 28 18:52:23 <HaDAk> if you'd like to help me convert it at some point, i'd be up for the learning excercise
May 28 18:52:44 <GodGinrai> yea, I'd love to
May 28 18:53:07 <GodGinrai> All the stuff I've been doing is Enyo front-end and PHP backend.
May 28 18:53:18 <HaDAk> that sounds ideal
May 28 18:53:26 <GodGinrai> damn autocorrect.  It's frontend
May 28 18:53:41 <HaDAk> and i think i can still mix and match enyo and jquery
May 28 18:53:46 <HaDAk> since this uses some jquery
May 28 18:53:56 <HaDAk> or, i *may* not need to
May 28 18:54:01 <HaDAk> the image flipping (arrows) is jquery
May 28 18:54:44 <GodGinrai> by flipping, you mean switching between the images, right?
May 28 18:54:48 <HaDAk> yeah
May 28 18:55:07 <HaDAk> although, if enyo can accomplish it, it would make my life easier…cause i want to be able to drag between images too
May 28 18:55:11 <HaDAk> which it currently does not do
May 28 18:55:24 <summatusmentis> enyo can
May 28 18:55:32 <HaDAk> i KNOW enyo can :P
May 28 18:55:33 <GodGinrai> Enyo has an Imageviewer called: enyo.ImageView
May 28 18:56:05 <HaDAk> is there a demo in the sampler?
May 28 18:56:11 <GodGinrai> yes
May 28 18:56:38 <GodGinrai> Layout>Image View
May 28 18:56:54 <GodGinrai> that's for one image
May 28 18:57:16 <GodGinrai> ImageCarousel does what you are wanting, using multiple ImageViews
May 28 18:57:27 <HaDAk> yeah, image carousel is much better
May 28 18:57:45 <HaDAk> instead of an image, i want what i've already put together though
May 28 18:58:27 <GodGinrai> what do you mean?
May 28 18:58:34 <HaDAk> with the blurred image
May 28 18:58:41 <HaDAk> doesn't this just display a .jpg or whateveR?
May 28 18:58:44 <HaDAk> i want a div there
May 28 18:59:35 <GodGinrai> No, the ImageCarousel and ImageViews are not simple img tags
May 28 18:59:39 <HaDAk> ok
May 28 18:59:42 <GodGinrai> that's what enyo.Image is
May 28 19:01:39 <HaDAk> aha
May 28 19:01:45 <HaDAk> well, it sounds very doable
May 28 19:02:06 <GodGinrai> yep
May 28 20:37:17 <GodGinrai> Did I miss anything while it apparently had me disconnected?
May 28 21:22:10 <GodGinrai> leaving work, I'll be on later.
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