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Jul 03 13:15:09 <pjetr> Hello
Jul 03 13:15:17 <pjetr> Is there anybody in there?
Jul 03 13:15:23 <pjetr> Just nod if you can hear me
Jul 03 13:15:30 <pjetr> Is there anyone home?
Jul 03 13:15:31 * HaDAk| hides
Jul 03 13:31:04 <pjetr> Come on
Jul 03 13:31:06 <pjetr> now
Jul 03 13:31:14 <pjetr> I hear you're feeling down
Jul 03 13:31:18 <pjetr> I can ease your pain
Jul 03 13:31:25 <pjetr> Get you on your feet again
Jul 03 13:36:08 <HaDAk|> javascript is haaaaaaaaaaaard
Jul 03 13:45:51 <pjetr> Relax
Jul 03 13:45:55 <pjetr> I'll need some information first
Jul 03 13:45:59 <pjetr> Just the basic facts
Jul 03 13:46:05 <pjetr> Can you show me where it hurts?
Jul 03 13:47:18 <HaDAk|> http://jsfiddle.net/HaDAk/k5Zaj/12/ >.>
Jul 03 13:47:40 <HaDAk|> i want to get the images to crossfade, but i can't. because javascript is hard.
Jul 03 13:48:10 <pjetr> :)
Jul 03 13:48:37 <pjetr> next part of the lyrics won't help you I'm affraid
Jul 03 13:48:47 <HaDAk|> T.T
Jul 03 13:54:01 <pjetr> http://jsfiddle.net/k5Zaj/15/
Jul 03 13:54:09 <pjetr> but do you mean something like this?
Jul 03 13:54:40 <pjetr> (sometimes I'm oldschool and just prefer to do it the CSS way)
Jul 03 13:55:44 * HaDAk| laughs manically
Jul 03 13:55:47 <HaDAk|> seriously?
Jul 03 13:55:51 <HaDAk|> you're a genius
Jul 03 13:56:11 <pjetr> coming from you, that means something :)
Jul 03 13:56:41 <pjetr> now, back to lyrics :D
Jul 03 13:56:48 <pjetr> There is no pain you are receding
Jul 03 13:56:49 * HaDAk| tips his hat to you
Jul 03 13:56:55 <pjetr> A distant ship's smoke on the horizon
Jul 03 13:56:59 <pjetr> You are only coming through in waves
Jul 03 13:57:03 <pjetr> Your lips move
Jul 03 13:57:07 <pjetr> But I can't hear what you're saying
Jul 03 13:58:32 * pjetr tips his hat back
Jul 03 13:59:13 <pjetr> It's a good thing I started singing :D
Jul 03 14:05:58 <HaDAk|> does the position have to be absolute in order for the transition to work? O_o
Jul 03 14:07:39 <pjetr> no, but for the positioning of your images
Jul 03 14:08:03 <pjetr> but probably you would be able to put the positioning back to the way you had it
Jul 03 14:08:12 <pjetr> I was just snooping around :)
Jul 03 14:08:26 <HaDAk|> i tried. it was shoving them down off the bottom of the screen
Jul 03 14:08:31 <pjetr> also: http://caniuse.com/#search=transition
Jul 03 14:08:33 <HaDAk|> i'll have to use some magics to center them
Jul 03 14:09:24 <pjetr> try: left: 50%; margin-left: -imgWidth*0.5
Jul 03 14:12:45 <pjetr> http://jsfiddle.net/k5Zaj/16/
Jul 03 14:12:50 <pjetr> this seems to work
Jul 03 14:13:09 <pjetr> .background-photo-img {
Jul 03 14:13:09 <pjetr>     max-height: 90%;
Jul 03 14:13:09 <pjetr>     max-width: 90%;
Jul 03 14:13:10 <pjetr>     position: relative;
Jul 03 14:13:11 <HaDAk|> http://beta.hanskokx.com
Jul 03 14:13:12 <pjetr>     opacity: 0;
Jul 03 14:13:14 <pjetr>     transition: opacity 0.3s;
Jul 03 14:13:15 <pjetr> }
Jul 03 14:13:18 <pjetr> .background-photo-img.active {
Jul 03 14:13:20 <pjetr>     min-height: 90%;
Jul 03 14:13:22 <pjetr>     min-width: 90%;
Jul 03 14:13:24 <pjetr>     opacity: 1;
Jul 03 14:13:26 <pjetr> }
Jul 03 14:13:45 <pjetr> :)
Jul 03 14:14:06 <HaDAk|> relative positioning was smooshing it down
Jul 03 14:14:21 <HaDAk|> i was already calculating the vertical centering in jquery. might as well just do horizontal, too
Jul 03 14:14:39 <HaDAk|> any suggestions for fitting the div to the background image?
Jul 03 14:14:49 <HaDAk|> without using the <img> tag :P
Jul 03 14:15:20 <HaDAk|> i'd like to be able to pop a nice drop shadow on that sucker, right around the image
Jul 03 14:16:21 <pjetr> not on the top of my mind
Jul 03 14:16:33 <HaDAk|> yeah. it's a tough one.
Jul 03 14:16:40 <HaDAk|> i'm sure i can figure something out eventually
Jul 03 14:16:46 <HaDAk|> but for now, you've solved a huge headache
Jul 03 14:16:50 <HaDAk|> +1 internet to you, good sir
Jul 03 14:17:12 <pjetr> but instead of calculating position. you could try top and left to 50% and center using negative margins
Jul 03 14:18:50 <HaDAk|> i thought negative margins were the devil
Jul 03 14:19:08 <pjetr> its the easiest way to center things
Jul 03 14:19:27 <pjetr> but then you'd have to position absolute
Jul 03 14:19:39 <HaDAk|> well. if it ain't broken, don't fix it?
Jul 03 14:19:40 <HaDAk|> :D
Jul 03 14:19:47 <pjetr> indeed
Jul 03 14:20:21 <pjetr> btw, most activity in this channel EVAH
Jul 03 14:20:34 <HaDAk|> and not even enyo T.T
Jul 03 14:20:53 <HaDAk|> enyo could probably make the responsive design portion of this work pretty well
Jul 03 14:20:57 <HaDAk|> because it presently does not. at all.
Jul 03 14:21:08 <HaDAk|> responsive = harder than viagra
Jul 03 14:21:29 <pjetr> I hear you
Jul 03 18:22:21 <Trex005> Be honest with me guys... is enyo doomed?
Jul 03 18:32:56 <summatusmentis> define doomed/
Jul 03 18:33:23 <summatusmentis> I don't think so, they're still putting resources into developing it
Jul 03 18:33:58 <Trex005> I guess I mean, will it fizzle and die.
Jul 03 18:34:31 <Trex005> I've been trying to hire an enyo dev for almost 6 months now... and I've gotten squat
Jul 03 18:34:47 <HaDAk|> well.
Jul 03 18:34:52 <Trex005> seems like there is little community around it.
Jul 03 18:34:54 <HaDAk|> enyo isn't as popular as, say, jquery
Jul 03 18:35:14 <Trex005> and since the core team was "sold" I was wondering if it was eventually going to just go kaput
Jul 03 18:35:16 <HaDAk|> just show that you can do amazing things with it, and people will get interested and try their hand at it, i suppose
Jul 03 18:35:27 <HaDAk|> everything dies eventually
Jul 03 18:39:31 <Trex005> I've not seen anything built in enyo as comprehensive as what I'm doing.  When I chose it (probably about 10 months ago) it looked like it had the potential for awesomeness.  I guess I'm just dissillusioned
Jul 03 18:40:29 <HaDAk|> enyo DOES have the potential for awesomeness.
Jul 03 18:40:33 <HaDAk|> what is it that you're trying to do?
Jul 03 18:41:15 <Trex005> I've built a complete business management suite over the past 12 years.  I'm trying to convert it all to enyo/node
Jul 03 18:41:29 <HaDAk|> that sounds really exciting. i'd use that.
Jul 03 18:42:16 <Trex005> If you were in the right verticle market :)
Jul 03 18:42:30 <HaDAk|> dunno what that means.
Jul 03 18:42:42 <HaDAk|> i'm just a lowly photographer
Jul 03 18:42:55 <Trex005> in the right industry.
Jul 03 18:43:01 <HaDAk|> oh.
Jul 03 18:43:05 <Trex005> it's for cellular
Jul 03 18:43:16 <HaDAk|> that probably doesn't suit me.
Jul 03 18:43:58 <Trex005> probably not :)
Jul 03 18:44:35 <HaDAk|> i'm busy rewriting http://www.hanskokx.com to http://beta.hanskokx.com, but alas i haven't used enyo for it.
Jul 03 18:44:44 <HaDAk|> i'm having a hard enough time trying to figure out jquery >.>
Jul 03 18:45:01 <Trex005> jquery's not so bad :)
Jul 03 18:45:04 <HaDAk|> javascript isn't really my thing. i'm coming around though.
Jul 03 18:45:48 <HaDAk|> i just spent like…an hour or two unfucking git. i'm not a git ninja either XD
Jul 03 18:49:27 <Trex005> What languages are your background?
Jul 03 18:49:49 <HaDAk|> i'm not formally trained in much of anything, but i did do some php for a while for a company. learned a few tricks.
Jul 03 18:50:16 <HaDAk|> web development isn't my bread and butter. i do network security.
Jul 03 18:50:30 <HaDAk|> but i can't justify paying somebody to write this shit for me when i'm perfectly* capable
Jul 03 18:51:33 <Trex005> the new site is definitly more attractive and usable.  Moving in the right direction.
Jul 03 18:51:44 <Trex005> You do know there are lots of free sliders out there right?
Jul 03 18:51:58 <HaDAk|> for the slideshow?
Jul 03 18:54:35 <Trex005> yeah.  it looks hand coded :)
Jul 03 18:54:41 <HaDAk|> XD
Jul 03 18:54:45 <HaDAk|> it's totally hand coded
Jul 03 18:54:51 <HaDAk|> but it's dynamic.
Jul 03 18:55:02 <HaDAk|> i drop an image in a folder, and it builds everything off of what it finds in that folder
Jul 03 18:55:06 <HaDAk|> which is why i love it <3
Jul 03 18:55:14 <Trex005> Pretty cool :)
Jul 03 18:57:48 <HaDAk|> i'm trying to figure out how i want to handle smaller screen sizes and the overlapping of the dots
Jul 03 19:01:11 <HaDAk|> but then again, i'm also trying to figure out how to handle responsive design >.>
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