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Jul 10 03:22:28 * phil_bw wanders by
Jul 10 12:29:40 <joopmicroop> I can't seem to change colWidth and colHeight of the GridArranger
Jul 10 12:29:41 <joopmicroop> http://jsfiddle.net/joopmicroop/3qNAr/
Jul 10 12:31:59 <joopmicroop> documentation says it's there at least.. http://enyojs.com/api/#enyo.GridArranger
Jul 10 12:33:32 <joopmicroop> some toughts?
Jul 10 12:42:43 <joopmicroop> ok this works: http://jsfiddle.net/joopmicroop/3qNAr/1/
Jul 10 12:43:18 <joopmicroop> which is just irritating :p
Jul 10 12:47:07 <joopmicroop> also note that the first gridArranger looks more like the collapsingArranger than anything else..
Jul 10 12:47:40 <pjetr> well they do the same thing in the sampler, don't they
Jul 10 12:47:41 <pjetr> http://enyojs.com/sampler/
Jul 10 12:48:14 <pjetr> layout > panels > arranger
Jul 10 12:48:20 <pjetr> you know how it works
Jul 10 12:48:22 <pjetr> :)
Jul 10 12:49:57 <joopmicroop> yes ok but with a LeftRightArranger I can do {kind:'panels', arangerKind:'LeftRightArranger', margin:40}
Jul 10 12:50:42 <joopmicroop> then it seems logical that I can do the same for gridarrangers {kind:'panels', arangerKind:'GridArranger', colWidth:40}
Jul 10 12:51:47 <joopmicroop> which is not the case, which on his turn confused the arranger out of me :p
Jul 10 12:56:19 <pjetr> by the way, what is it you're making with enyo?
Jul 10 12:56:42 <pjetr> because, well WE are the community it would seem :D
Jul 10 12:57:14 <pjetr> and HaDAk
Jul 10 12:58:13 <HaDAk> what about me?
Jul 10 12:58:18 <pjetr> :)
Jul 10 12:58:37 <joopmicroop> hehe :D I'm building an online casino platform
Jul 10 12:58:47 * HaDAk never said he knows how to use enyo very well
Jul 10 12:58:50 * HaDAk hasn't made anything with it
Jul 10 12:58:51 <pjetr> as far as this channel goes, we are the community it would seem ;)
Jul 10 12:59:02 <joopmicroop> true ^^
Jul 10 12:59:29 <HaDAk> T.T
Jul 10 12:59:48 <joopmicroop> we should start an enyo project together :P
Jul 10 13:00:04 <joopmicroop> something like enyo++
Jul 10 13:00:06 <HaDAk> you really want me to go insane, don't you?
Jul 10 13:00:13 <pjetr> :D
Jul 10 13:00:19 <joopmicroop> ofc :p
Jul 10 13:00:20 * HaDAk is going to boston for a week, and when he gets back, is going to europe for a month
Jul 10 13:00:25 <HaDAk> then classes start
Jul 10 13:00:40 <joopmicroop> well I'm in europe..
Jul 10 13:01:31 <joopmicroop> not convincing enough :)
Jul 10 13:02:46 <pjetr> I'm in europe as well!
Jul 10 13:03:19 <dimik> I am also in Europe. !
Jul 10 13:03:24 <pjetr> I figured we were all from europe, since well, we're all on here from 9 to 5
Jul 10 13:03:39 <pjetr> We've got another active community member!
Jul 10 13:03:53 <pjetr> (in this room)
Jul 10 13:03:58 <dimik> I am around 3-4 days, but I am at work and look now and then
Jul 10 13:04:09 <pjetr> same here
Jul 10 13:04:25 <joopmicroop> here too, but at work I have to work with enyo
Jul 10 13:04:31 <dimik> we had a stage update and I had to be a bit passive in here
Jul 10 13:04:32 <pjetr> but for now, I'm just staring at my code, since I've got no concentration left
Jul 10 13:05:03 <dimik> you are lucky joopmicroop , I am .net developer and jqm for mobile apps
Jul 10 13:05:11 <dimik> enyo  is my hidden love.
Jul 10 13:05:31 <dimik> I started with enyo 1 and now I am playing with v.2
Jul 10 13:05:40 <joopmicroop> haha .net :p sorry couldn't hold it :p
Jul 10 13:05:47 <pjetr> I am too working with enyo professionallt
Jul 10 13:05:50 <pjetr> I am too working with enyo professionally
Jul 10 13:06:27 <joopmicroop> ok and some of you still have a little time after work here and there?
Jul 10 13:06:33 <pjetr> so Joop and I are enyo professionals :o
Jul 10 13:06:43 <dimik> I know!!! Irony is i was making fun of .net developers but when I joined the company I was supposed to be developing in Ruby. Unfortunately .net team had some high demand in programmers and my course changed
Jul 10 13:06:53 <joopmicroop> In my head at least
Jul 10 13:07:09 <dimik> I am kind of jealous at you guys
Jul 10 13:07:34 <pjetr> dimik, we're hiring btw
Jul 10 13:07:52 <dimik> in which country is that happening ?
Jul 10 13:07:57 <pjetr> BE
Jul 10 13:08:16 <pjetr> as in Belgium
Jul 10 13:08:41 <dimik> yes awesome. In fact byt he end of this month I quit my job
Jul 10 13:09:24 <pjetr> and you are from Belgium as well?
Jul 10 13:09:56 <dimik> no I am currently working in Poland. Finished my master here in Internet engineering
Jul 10 13:10:21 <dimik> but my nationality is Greek
Jul 10 13:11:17 <dimik> unfortunately this sets me back, since I am forced to join the army and is the reason I quit right now my current company at first place.
Jul 10 13:11:19 <pjetr> that would be a long commute :)
Jul 10 13:11:26 <dimik> hehe
Jul 10 13:11:27 <dimik> :D
Jul 10 13:11:58 <pjetr> How long do you have to serve?
Jul 10 13:12:32 <dimik> 9 months, 6 best case scenario
Jul 10 13:13:38 <pjetr> could be fun
Jul 10 13:13:54 <pjetr> and if you look at the bright side
Jul 10 13:13:56 <pjetr> no .NET
Jul 10 13:14:07 <dimik> Hehehhe EXACTLY!!!
Jul 10 13:15:19 <dimik> Is the reason I am not coming back
Jul 10 13:15:30 <dimik> going*
Jul 10 13:15:37 <dimik> what applications are you doing in enyo?
Jul 10 13:15:51 <dimik> i know only about joop's currently
Jul 10 13:20:42 <pjetr> we're making an online tool for schools
Jul 10 13:21:39 <pjetr> 1st stage: a way to see the lessons on a smart board, and a complete school organizing backend in PHP
Jul 10 13:21:53 <joopmicroop> ok back went for a smoke
Jul 10 13:22:08 <joopmicroop> I'm from belgium :P
Jul 10 13:22:21 <pjetr> I'm now working on the tool to create the lessons in an online environment
Jul 10 13:22:46 <dimik> wow great !
Jul 10 13:22:47 <pjetr> so, the environment itself really
Jul 10 13:23:11 <pjetr> and in a later stage, we're going to open up this tool so teachers can create their own lessons as well
Jul 10 13:23:16 <dimik> Sounds like lots of fun. Is that like your own project, or client's demand?
Jul 10 13:23:43 <pjetr> It's my bosses project
Jul 10 13:24:13 <pjetr> and we're now a 3 man team. 1 php and 2 enyo
Jul 10 13:24:29 <pjetr> but we could do with an extra enyo developer
Jul 10 13:24:36 <dimik> Yes, by yours I mean the company's that you are working at. If so this leaves space for creative things
Jul 10 13:24:45 <pjetr> indeed
Jul 10 13:24:51 <dimik> php is working on the service side?
Jul 10 13:25:03 <pjetr> yes
Jul 10 13:25:22 <joopmicroop> 3people O_o
Jul 10 13:25:39 <dimik> more than 5 is too much so 3 is great
Jul 10 13:25:48 <joopmicroop> I have enyo all to myself :p
Jul 10 13:26:24 <dimik> I am working on similar setup . Enyo on client side and php with slim framework for restful web services (this is my spare time thing, for me )
Jul 10 13:26:38 <dimik> but I consider to switch mongodb and node.js
Jul 10 13:26:46 <joopmicroop> why not node.js?
Jul 10 13:26:51 <pjetr> sounds like fun
Jul 10 13:27:06 <dimik> thats what i thought also joopmicroop  :P
Jul 10 13:27:10 <joopmicroop> indeed would be better with mongodb and node
Jul 10 13:27:54 <pjetr> because we also have a quite extensive backend to manage, and we allready have the php knowledge.
Jul 10 13:27:55 <dimik> It should be, I had experience with enyo 1 as I said so currently I am seeing enyo 2. not too different, not too similar. but I like it
Jul 10 13:28:54 <dimik> yes both sides have positives and negatives. PHP developers are plentyfull and easy to find, so you can be sure that will find some quality
Jul 10 13:29:53 <dimik> on the other hand node.js is javascript and enyo as well. 4 JS developers wont have any problem to grasp the basic of enyo or node.js and you can swap them between projects any given time
Jul 10 13:30:24 <dimik> but still! Both are good solutions
Jul 10 13:30:33 <pjetr> :)
Jul 10 13:31:02 <pjetr> problem with a big project as ours is. Change is expensive
Jul 10 13:32:49 <joopmicroop> found anything on ternjs lastnight?
Jul 10 13:37:55 <dimik> I need to modify the inference engine to be able to interpret how the dependencies are build :s
Jul 10 13:38:03 <dimik> that is a lot of trouble to begin with
Jul 10 13:38:12 <dimik> I ll talk with the creator for advices
Jul 10 13:39:25 <dimik> tern needs to parse the package.js and have it as reference for which files should be loaded in autocomplete
Jul 10 13:39:36 <dimik> other than that you can use it right away out of the box.
Jul 10 13:40:40 <dimik> if you have sublime install it from package control, if you have brackets is build in but I enjoy the extension with the extra goodies, if you have Vim there is a plugin for that
Jul 10 13:40:45 <joopmicroop> hadn't had time list night to do much searching, bought a new keyboard so I took some playtime with the new toy
Jul 10 13:41:30 <joopmicroop> I rather use joe as terminal editor than vim so I don't need those shortcuts
Jul 10 13:41:34 <dimik> heheheh I also had limited time to go deeper. spend most of my time looking for hp touchpad on ebay :D
Jul 10 13:42:38 <dimik> I am not fun of Joe's
Jul 10 13:43:04 <joopmicroop> watch out for the cardboard ones on ebay :p seems like an epidemic
Jul 10 13:43:58 <dimik> Should I be worried ? Cardboard you mean like .. a cardboard that looks like a real one ?
Jul 10 13:45:56 <joopmicroop> they show the real picture and in the text realy small they mention that it's just a print of the device
Jul 10 13:46:11 <joopmicroop> and if you're lucky they print it on cardboard :p
Jul 10 13:46:59 <dimik> Daaamn. Thank you for the tip ! I am not often ebay buyer and can be easily a victim. Is just that no shop sells them right now!
Jul 10 13:47:45 <dimik> anyway, am going to passive mode again because I need to work ! :)
Jul 10 13:48:45 <joopmicroop> :) ok hear you later
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Jul 10 14:52:56 <dimik> bb for now :)
Jul 10 17:35:34 * joopmicroop is working hard on his next component
Jul 10 17:36:06 * joopmicroop hopes to get it into the community gallery
Jul 10 23:01:39 <dimik> is anyone here?
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