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Jul 18 07:00:54 <dimk_> Good morning!
Jul 18 07:16:42 <pjetr> goodmorning
Jul 18 07:20:17 <dimk_> goo mornign pjetr :)
Jul 18 07:25:26 <pjetr> reading the logs of last night. thx for the compliment :)
Jul 18 07:27:55 <dimk_> :D
Jul 18 07:35:57 <pjetr> I think tonight I might be able to squeeze some computertime in
Jul 18 07:36:49 <pjetr> if I do, I'm going to take a look at the API. because, i do think we should make it so that it works with the DOM instead of a HTML-string like it is now
Jul 18 07:37:01 <pjetr> see what I can think of
Jul 18 07:37:04 <dimk_> that is great. I ll aslo do it. I started refactoring the presentator.js that splits html into pieces
Jul 18 07:37:50 <dimk_> yeap, i m there already, I made the header and properties of kind-view enyo kinds instead
Jul 18 07:38:28 <dimk_> maybe I should push some changes I already have today later on but problem is that unfinished changes won't help, will make things worst
Jul 18 07:39:32 <dimk_> I suggest to split it in tasks for each category kind/modules/index/package
Jul 18 07:40:07 <dimk_> we ll see it later on
Jul 18 08:15:19 <bhuey_> folks
Jul 18 08:19:38 <joopmicroop> morning
Jul 18 08:20:08 <pjetr> \me waves
Jul 18 08:20:15 * pjetr waves
Jul 18 08:20:35 <pjetr> I really need to learn these irc commands :(
Jul 18 08:21:30 <pulsation> morning
Jul 18 08:23:45 <joopmicroop> :p /kick is all you need
Jul 18 08:24:56 <joopmicroop> 78138 k logs yesterday.. nice :)
Jul 18 08:25:15 <pjetr> yeah, you guys really went at it didn't you
Jul 18 08:30:15 <joopmicroop> yeah was fun and alot of randomnes
Jul 18 08:33:58 <joopmicroop> newbeen i've worked some more on the file from last night
Jul 18 08:34:26 <joopmicroop> there's still more to comment sertainly the more you go down
Jul 18 08:34:41 <joopmicroop> but this is an update in the meanwhile https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bx1raQ6dEtZFMkI0UmwxMnlhX0U/edit
Jul 18 08:53:59 <dimk_> good morning! :)
Jul 18 08:55:27 <joopmicroop> morning :)
Jul 18 08:55:30 <dimk_> joopmicroop: Wow! Nice job explaining!
Jul 18 08:55:41 <joopmicroop> it's a start :)
Jul 18 08:57:44 <dimk_> pjetr:  Yesterday was crazy in that channel. I ve been here few days but so far didnt manage to scroll down my mouse-wheel more than two rolls !
Jul 18 09:03:20 <pjetr> joopmicroop you should take this and start a blogpost on it.
Jul 18 09:04:01 <joopmicroop> had the same thoughts last night, still need to start a blog first :p
Jul 18 09:04:08 <pjetr> dimk_ what's the link to the github repo again?
Jul 18 09:04:29 <joopmicroop> api-tool-social on github
Jul 18 09:04:41 <dimk_> https://github.com/DimitrK/api-tool-social
Jul 18 09:04:59 <pjetr> joopmicroop: https://help.github.com/articles/using-jekyll-with-pages
Jul 18 09:05:09 <dimk_> if you guys have any problem installing submodules let me know. I did my best to make it painless
Jul 18 09:05:18 <dimk_> because they are pain in the ass while forking
Jul 18 09:05:56 <joopmicroop> went smooth for me last night..
Jul 18 09:10:08 <dimk_> that was nice
Jul 18 09:11:59 <joopmicroop> i did use the github app tough.. just clicked 'clone to desktop'
Jul 18 09:12:47 <dimk_> aha ok. I used clone --recursive
Jul 18 09:13:24 <dimk_> and when I first forked I hitted the wall on submodules.. 30 minutes later I managed to get it smoother
Jul 18 09:14:26 <dimk_> problem is that when you are forking the submodules also point to your repo. so enyo and onyx libs instead of being on github.com/enyojs/enyo.git was on github.com/DimitrK/enyo.git
Jul 18 09:14:33 <dimk_> ofcourse I dont have such repos
Jul 18 09:17:09 <pjetr> is any one of you on mac?
Jul 18 09:17:48 <pjetr> if you are check out sourceTree by atlassian, best git app I've found.
Jul 18 09:21:39 <dimk_> no :( no mac here. As a .net developer is the environment I am using only for user demos to the customers but sounds interesting.
Jul 18 09:21:52 <dimk_> I like atlassian products, we were using hipchat as well
Jul 18 09:22:11 <joopmicroop> I use osx
Jul 18 09:22:30 <dimk_> and I have on bitbucket some priv repos
Jul 18 09:31:29 <pjetr> at work it's all mac pro's. at home it's windows or ubuntu
Jul 18 09:32:25 <joopmicroop> at work: crapdows, at home: mac
Jul 18 09:34:57 <dimk_> its hard for me to get used to mac! :/ always the presentation gets boring while someone to figure out how to copy paste something (command buttons instead of ctrl) or minimize. But the rest of the company programs in Ruby and the big guy loves apple
Jul 18 09:35:31 <dimk_> now we use Mac - > remote desktop Windows  :D
Jul 18 09:36:17 <joopmicroop> *facepalm* :p
Jul 18 09:36:27 <dimk_> hahahaha i know
Jul 18 09:51:39 <pjetr> joopmicroop: i've copied your work as a resource to my evernote. If that's allright with you
Jul 18 09:54:05 <joopmicroop> sure but there will be updates on so you'll have to update too, and I'd rather not have it shared with the whole world until it's finished, just a prerelease for the enyo channel :)
Jul 18 09:54:27 <joopmicroop> for now
Jul 18 10:03:32 <joopmicroop> you can use it for your own reference until then
Jul 18 10:21:46 <dimk_> in case you create at work your own ui components... this can give you some ideas http://h5bp.github.io/Effeckt.css/dist/
Jul 18 11:03:17 <pjetr> that's brilliant!
Jul 18 11:28:55 <joopmicroop> looks nice indeed
Jul 18 11:54:59 <pjetr> damn it's hot
Jul 18 12:26:46 <dimk_> yes , i liked it also, I can see possibilities in mobile apps with that
Jul 18 12:27:31 <dimk_> we can have project #2 another weekend to make some ui component individually and present it. who knows? maybe something cool come up ;)
Jul 18 14:05:47 <joopmicroop> dimk_ I suggest a 24hour component race :)
Jul 18 14:10:59 <dimk_> yeah , sounds like virtual hackathon joopmicroop :D
Jul 18 14:15:14 <joopmicroop> does anyone have more info on the layoutClass property?
Jul 18 14:23:59 <HaDAk> it's like talking to a fucking wall with this guy
Jul 18 15:27:48 <dimk_> c you later , bb
Jul 18 15:32:03 <fx1> hot? it's 104 outside
Jul 18 15:38:22 <joopmicroop> I hope you don't live in europe with such temp numbers.. :s
Jul 18 15:38:41 <HaDAk> °f
Jul 18 15:39:14 <joopmicroop> figured but still thats 40°C
Jul 18 15:39:36 <joopmicroop> which is... well... hot
Jul 18 15:41:23 <HaDAk> hot hot.
Jul 18 15:43:45 <fx1> at least i'm not a sponge
Jul 18 15:43:53 <fx1> when sponges get hot, they crack and break O.O
Jul 18 15:48:56 <HaDAk> no they don't
Jul 18 15:48:56 <HaDAk> http://janejogs.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/i_dont_need_it1.jpg
Jul 18 15:53:17 <pmarsh> anyone have a favorite validation lib for their enyo apps?
Jul 18 17:15:23 <fx1> i got a tricky git question
Jul 18 17:15:56 <fx1> i've forked kesne's oldnyx, right -- on github. oldnyx is forked from enyojs/onyx.
Jul 18 17:16:28 <fx1> i'm trying to fork onyx from enyojs. when i do this, instead of forking enyojs/onyx, it simply takes me to my oldnyx fork page =(
Jul 18 17:16:46 <pmarsh> maybe ask in github?
Jul 18 17:16:53 <fx1> hrm
Jul 18 17:21:21 <fx1> deleted oldnyx repository, problem solved*
Jul 18 17:21:42 <fx1> *(not actually solved, but non-existant any more =) )
Jul 18 17:28:16 <fx1> damn. apparently this happens with every nested fork, even if the middle repo ISN'T yours -- it doesn't matter. if you forked that middle repo, and you try to fork it's parent ONLY, you're taken to your fork of the middle repo
Jul 18 17:28:37 <fx1> which is undesirable IMO. unless i am missing some fundamental feature
Jul 18 17:30:12 <pmarsh> ha, not that I see
Jul 18 18:27:50 <dimk> greetings :)
Jul 18 18:33:26 <fx1> poo
Jul 18 18:33:34 <dimk> :)
Jul 18 19:18:50 <joopmicroop> let the activity start :)
Jul 18 19:19:01 <dimk> hahhahaha
Jul 18 19:19:20 <dimk> so I branched and commit a mess so far. just how I picture the whole thing
Jul 18 19:20:31 <dimk> https://github.com/DimitrK/api-tool-social/tree/dimk-api
Jul 18 19:20:53 <dimk> branch is dimk-api as you can imagine
Jul 18 19:21:47 <dimk> the only thing that is fully refactored yet is the kind/header
Jul 18 19:24:36 <dimk> brainstorm and bring in some ideas as well! branch and commit.
Jul 18 19:27:37 <joopmicroop> Other things to do first :s
Jul 18 19:29:35 <dimk> what you mean. speak your mind it matters
Jul 18 19:30:10 <joopmicroop> isn't there an irc framework floating around somewhere? maybe we can include the channel :p
Jul 18 19:31:08 <dimk> hah, i was thinking of it! :D hahahah
Jul 18 19:31:29 <dimk> this can be added extra. only if the codebase is structured in a way that we can pluged them at any point we want
Jul 18 19:32:18 <dimk> now as I said is just a string, and we are going to refactor it into kinds and work with those. since we walk with kind which are modules,  we can hook/unhook anything we like later on
Jul 18 19:32:55 <dimk> you think a irc framework can be integrated in the current state of the code?
Jul 18 19:36:33 <joopmicroop> looking at node.js but maybe there are other options online
Jul 18 19:42:03 <joopmicroop> non-interactive IRC client https://code.google.com/p/jsircbot/
Jul 18 19:43:39 <joopmicroop> or we could just put an iframe in on http://webchat.freenode.net/
Jul 18 19:46:13 <joopmicroop> https://kiwiirc.com/#features would be perfect an is opensource
Jul 18 19:46:14 <fx1> ericblade is the one you wanna talk to -- he's done IRC + synergy on the touchpad
Jul 18 19:46:40 <joopmicroop> is ericblade here?
Jul 18 19:47:04 <fx1> eh, he's probably out to lunch or something. you can tweet him edikio i think
Jul 18 19:47:18 <joopmicroop> tkx
Jul 18 19:47:31 <fx1> @ekdikeo
Jul 18 19:47:59 <joopmicroop> I'll tweet him
Jul 18 19:49:09 <fx1> i just uninstalled AVG toolbar -- every time i set my home page to google.com in chrome it would revert to AVG.
Jul 18 19:49:47 * fx1 ignites AVG HeadQuarters in flames
Jul 18 19:50:14 <joopmicroop> I'd like to keep my computer as clean as possible so I don't AVG
Jul 18 19:50:44 <joopmicroop> anti virus companies where to first to start it :p
Jul 18 19:50:56 <fx1> i never installed it, my espanol hablande amigo was using chrome for facebook, and somehow AVG duped him into clicking yes for something or something. idk. me angry
Jul 18 19:51:06 * joopmicroop blames Norton
Jul 18 19:52:01 <joopmicroop> AVG = Agressive Virus Germ
Jul 18 19:52:50 <joopmicroop> --> click install now <--
Jul 18 19:53:11 <summatusmentis> my mac has never had this issue >_>
Jul 18 19:53:54 <joopmicroop> same never formatted for 5 years
Jul 18 19:54:22 <joopmicroop> smooth as a feather
Jul 18 19:54:39 <fx1> nobody cares to make virus's for macs, windows users are easier to dupe
Jul 18 19:55:30 <joopmicroop> install.exe <-- another gazillion duped
Jul 18 20:04:41 <baboo> :p
Jul 18 20:04:50 <baboo> i have a mac too
Jul 18 20:05:03 <baboo> high five summatusmentis!
Jul 18 20:05:59 <summatusmentis> ^5 ;)
Jul 18 20:06:05 <baboo> :D
Jul 18 20:21:17 <dimk> was afk for launch
Jul 18 20:21:41 <dimk> so joopmicroop it might be a good idea to put something like irc for instanc questions
Jul 18 20:22:21 <dimk> will be more like a enyo dev center than api-viewer but still sounds kind cool. will you ask ericblade about his implementation?
Jul 18 21:11:13 <joopmicroop> https://twitter.com/joopmicroop/status/357970665296498689 done
Jul 19 02:30:19 <fx1> ok. i can't for the life of me get keydown to work here. =(
Jul 19 02:31:53 <fx1> events block nope, handlers nope, inline nope
Jul 19 02:41:22 <fx1> i can obviously use document.body.onkeydown = x.bind(this); but i wanna do enyo way
Jul 19 02:44:30 <baboo> i think you can set the onkeydown on objects
Jul 19 02:44:35 <baboo> not sure
Jul 19 02:45:06 <baboo> maybe your FittableRows
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