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Jul 22 03:10:52 <baboo> going to do ksp
Jul 22 07:35:57 <dimk_> good morning
Jul 22 07:39:49 <fx1> good morning
Jul 22 09:07:27 <pjetr> morning all
Jul 22 09:08:51 <pjetr> dimk_ I see you've got the kind working :)
Jul 22 09:09:26 <pjetr> is that your proper e-mail? I'll add it to the moderaters if it is
Jul 22 09:15:02 <dimk_> hello pjetr
Jul 22 09:15:34 <dimk_> yeah! Is up and running :) Needs refinement and code review before pull request. are you interested? :D
Jul 22 09:15:45 <dimk_> what e-mail ?
Jul 22 09:25:02 <joopmicroop> what kind? :p
Jul 22 09:25:07 <joopmicroop> (morning)
Jul 22 09:25:10 <pjetr> I am interested, I just haven't got the time to really participate
Jul 22 09:26:36 <pjetr> joopmicroop I received an e-mail that there was a new comment on disqus, and it didn't come from my JSfiddle
Jul 22 09:28:21 <joopmicroop> oh on the enyo disqus? nice
Jul 22 09:28:32 <dimk_> hello joopmicroop
Jul 22 09:31:20 <joopmicroop> hi dimk_ :) and all others :p
Jul 22 12:21:21 <pjetr> damn, it's hot in here. I'm just flicking trough windows. Constantly forgetting what I should do next.
Jul 22 12:30:39 <HaDAk> http://cl.ly/image/262o0U3V440h
Jul 22 12:30:44 <HaDAk> at least you're not here
Jul 22 12:31:01 <dimk_> pjetr: Eveyday the samme problem a ? Consider using a fan at least
Jul 22 12:32:26 <dimk_> HaDAk: you have a big screen.
Jul 22 12:32:56 <HaDAk> dimk_: retina
Jul 22 12:33:05 <HaDAk> it's actually a small screen lol
Jul 22 12:33:58 <pjetr> I could do with some rain :)
Jul 22 12:34:18 <HaDAk> take it
Jul 22 12:38:09 <pjetr> https://copy.com/ZWvYdmqL6CCQ
Jul 22 12:38:30 <HaDAk> copy. lol.
Jul 22 12:38:48 <pjetr> why lol?
Jul 22 12:38:50 <HaDAk> i used to work at barracuda. i know the whole copy team.
Jul 22 12:38:59 <HaDAk> i think i have a permanent 100G account there
Jul 22 12:39:02 <pjetr> I figured I should put at least a file on the account :)
Jul 22 12:39:09 <dimk_> heheh i see
Jul 22 12:39:54 <dimk_> (was about the retina display)
Jul 22 12:40:11 <pjetr> I've got 25G now on copy, and since just now also a screenshot
Jul 22 12:40:12 <pjetr> :)
Jul 22 12:40:29 <dimk_> why you need 25G there?
Jul 22 12:40:36 <pjetr> it's free
Jul 22 12:40:38 <pjetr> https://copy.com?r=WElnDi
Jul 22 12:41:07 <pjetr> you get 15 free, and per invitee you get another 5. and when invited you get 5 extra as well
Jul 22 12:41:16 <HaDAk> http://cl.ly/image/3d2D17181v3j
Jul 22 12:41:18 <pjetr> so 20G is the basic account
Jul 22 12:41:34 <HaDAk> apparently i backed up my pictures there at one point
Jul 22 12:41:51 <pjetr> :)
Jul 22 12:49:27 <dimk_> I used dropbox with similar thing. I have 22.5 gbs there. But I am turning to utorrent space
Jul 22 12:50:10 <dimk_> http://labs.bittorrent.com/experiments/sync.html
Jul 22 12:50:52 <HaDAk> i did hear about that. haven't looked into it.
Jul 22 12:51:01 <HaDAk> i like dropbox, because of the integration with everything
Jul 22 12:51:07 <HaDAk> my account is presently at 50gb there
Jul 22 12:51:58 <pjetr> same reason why I like dropbox
Jul 22 12:52:21 <pjetr> I'm thinking about setting up an owncloud on a raspberryPi http://owncloud.org/
Jul 22 12:52:29 <HaDAk> i have an owncloud
Jul 22 12:52:40 <HaDAk> i made the awful choice of having it sync my dropbox folder to my owncloud server
Jul 22 12:52:44 <HaDAk> protip: do NOT do that
Jul 22 12:52:50 <pjetr> :)
Jul 22 12:53:02 <pjetr> why not?
Jul 22 12:53:11 <HaDAk> it made duplicates of all my files (up to 10 of them), called the "conflicted" and deleted them from dropbox
Jul 22 12:55:12 <pjetr> that's not the desired effect
Jul 22 12:55:14 <pjetr> ;)
Jul 22 12:55:25 <HaDAk> most certainly not
Jul 22 12:57:27 <HaDAk> this is awesome
Jul 22 12:57:33 <HaDAk> how the hell do i delete a folder from copy? lol
Jul 22 12:57:52 <HaDAk> ooh
Jul 22 12:57:53 <HaDAk> it's shared
Jul 22 12:57:56 <HaDAk> therefore it cannot be deleted
Jul 22 12:58:11 <HaDAk> got it.
Jul 22 13:08:31 <pjetr> that is obviously the desired effect
Jul 22 13:08:59 <pjetr> you wouldn't want to delete things that are shared, without first unsharing it. Now would you
Jul 22 13:09:01 <pjetr> ;)
Jul 22 13:10:36 <HaDAk> dropbox lets me :P
Jul 22 13:46:58 <pmarsh> There a way to setContent to have a &nbsp; without it escaping and actually putting in "&nbsp;" ?
Jul 22 13:49:45 <dimk_> { kind: enyo.Control, name:"SomeName", components: [ {tag:"br"} ] }
Jul 22 13:50:27 <dimk_> so instead of set Content do createComponent({tag: "br"}, {owner: this})
Jul 22 13:51:58 <pmarsh> dimk_: just realized I think if I set allowHtml: true that would help :)
Jul 22 13:52:14 <dimk_> also true
Jul 22 13:52:36 <pmarsh> createComponent has been very helpful for us in keeping memory on iOS in check
Jul 22 13:52:49 <HaDAk> :)
Jul 22 13:53:40 <pmarsh> thanks for the idea
Jul 22 15:02:23 <dimk_> c u later
Jul 22 18:24:58 <DimitrK> morning!
Jul 22 19:03:23 <fx1> good morning
Jul 22 19:03:33 <fx1> soab - build-desktop fails again!
Jul 22 19:03:45 <fx1> i wonder if it's because it's a x64 image of linux.
Jul 22 19:03:59 <fx1> i'm going to kill myself if that's it
Jul 22 19:04:04 <DimitrK> :s
Jul 22 19:04:13 <fx1> dude you don't even know
Jul 22 19:04:32 <fx1> YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW
Jul 22 19:04:48 <DimitrK> what?
Jul 22 19:06:07 <fx1> idk, i'm tired of failed builds. lol
Jul 22 19:06:16 <fx1> i feel like an outcast
Jul 22 19:06:43 <DimitrK> hahha
Jul 22 19:06:46 <fx1> worst part is you can't start from where it fails.
Jul 22 19:06:52 <fx1> if you can, idk how
Jul 22 19:06:58 <DimitrK> i know redoing everything
Jul 22 19:07:19 <fx1> this one took 2.5 hours to fail.
Jul 22 19:07:20 <DimitrK> you are speaking about the webos install you tried to do yesterday?
Jul 22 19:07:25 <DimitrK> LOL
Jul 22 19:07:25 <fx1> build-desktop
Jul 22 19:07:27 <DimitrK> that sucks
Jul 22 19:08:28 <fx1> i just deleted my VM.
Jul 22 19:08:35 * fx1 feels macho man superior
Jul 22 19:09:26 <DimitrK> hahah
Jul 22 19:10:45 <DimitrK> patience. try with different vm, I fucking have no idea about these things
Jul 22 19:15:37 <fx1> i'm going backwards this time, 11.04
Jul 22 19:20:56 <fx1> this is getting personal
Jul 22 19:21:05 <fx1> it's no longer about webos. it's about man vs machine
Jul 22 19:21:23 <DimitrK> hahaha, beat it to death then
Jul 22 19:22:06 <DimitrK> is it going to be this time at 32bit ?
Jul 22 19:22:59 <fx1> yep
Jul 22 19:25:31 <DimitrK> gl
Jul 22 19:26:28 <fx1> thank you
Jul 22 19:26:41 <fx1> that's all the motivation i need to actually try this!
Jul 22 19:28:25 <DimitrK> go for it then!
Jul 22 19:36:57 * fx1 dinner
Jul 22 20:02:44 <fx1> hrm. so 11.04..... thinking not the best idea
Jul 22 20:05:25 <DimitrK> why is that ?
Jul 22 20:08:05 <fx1> apt-get has bad packages
Jul 22 20:11:22 <fx1> ha! i beat the system!
Jul 22 20:11:32 <fx1> updated the /etc/apt/sources.list
Jul 22 20:11:36 <fx1> liek a boss
Jul 22 20:25:35 <DimitrK> hhaha
Jul 22 20:25:38 <DimitrK> so explain
Jul 22 20:25:44 <DimitrK> what bad packages?
Jul 22 20:25:49 <fx1> like half of these apps aren't able to install
Jul 22 20:25:51 <DimitrK> which packages you tried to install
Jul 22 20:26:03 <DimitrK> gratz!
Jul 22 20:26:21 <DimitrK> give more info in future I ll try to install as well and I ll have in mind the logs
Jul 22 20:26:22 <fx1> firefox github is broken
Jul 22 20:26:36 <fx1> copy/paste from VM/host don't work, so i can't add my ssh key
Jul 22 20:26:42 <fx1> lol this is fun!
Jul 22 20:27:31 <DimitrK> you need to go to the top of vm. on user additions
Jul 22 20:27:34 <DimitrK> and enable it
Jul 22 20:27:48 <DimitrK> in general is enable-able so look for it
Jul 22 20:27:51 <fx1> great, i DL another browser, github renders but the "add ssh key" button doesn't work.
Jul 22 20:30:01 <DimitrK> I had no problem to add ssh on github from my vm. I used chrome
Jul 22 20:30:12 <fx1> chrome isn't available
Jul 22 20:30:14 <DimitrK> I mean in virtual linux environment
Jul 22 20:30:15 <fx1> this is 11.04
Jul 22 20:30:20 <DimitrK> I have the same
Jul 22 20:30:24 <fx1> it's like, not supportedd by linux or something
Jul 22 20:30:28 <DimitrK> :s
Jul 22 20:30:53 <DimitrK> I remembered that I downloaded openSSH and MC
Jul 22 20:31:01 <DimitrK> to generate, and put it on github
Jul 22 20:36:41 <fx1> ah yes, vmware tools
Jul 22 20:38:56 <fx1> yay copy paste works
Jul 22 20:39:28 <DimitrK> Yeap!
Jul 22 20:39:36 <DimitrK> guest additions
Jul 22 20:39:45 <DimitrK> I think they were called something like this
Jul 22 20:40:04 <fx1> yay github authorized! this might work
Jul 22 20:40:16 <fx1> it IS officially supported, after all...
Jul 22 20:41:15 <DimitrK> ;;)
Jul 22 20:41:33 <fx1> uhh, problem: git is now not installing..... instead it installed gnit.
Jul 22 20:41:35 * fx1 facepalm
Jul 22 20:47:39 <DimitrK> wtf?
Jul 22 20:47:44 <DimitrK> what is gnit ?
Jul 22 20:47:55 <DimitrK> just sudo apt-get install git
Jul 22 20:48:58 <fx1> it doesn't find it.
Jul 22 20:51:49 <DimitrK> do an apt-get update to get the fresh list
Jul 22 20:52:04 <DimitrK> and try again with apt-get install git
Jul 22 20:53:05 <fx1> that's the problem, the sources.list is outdated
Jul 22 20:53:13 <fx1> all the links don't work.
Jul 22 20:55:23 <DimitrK> does it help ? http://www.humans-enabled.com/2012/06/how-to-update-your-ubuntu-gnulinux.html
Jul 22 21:00:50 <fx1> no tengo git
Jul 22 21:00:51 <fx1> man
Jul 22 21:01:47 <DimitrK> :S
Jul 22 21:04:10 <fx1> OMG i found it.
Jul 22 21:04:16 * fx1 king
Jul 22 21:05:18 <fx1> crap. it installs, but then it is not found in terminal
Jul 22 21:05:27 <fx1> i think i should just remove this VM and never try again
Jul 22 21:10:01 <DimitrK> no
Jul 22 21:10:05 <DimitrK> you need to add it to the path
Jul 22 21:10:51 <DimitrK> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/550490/how-can-i-put-home-opt-git-bin-to-my-path
Jul 22 21:10:56 <DimitrK> make sure your path is this though
Jul 22 21:11:31 <DimitrK> this tutorial seems awesome : http://yuilibrary.com/yui/docs/tutorials/git/
Jul 22 21:14:18 <fx1> i shouldn't have to do any of this. blah. i feel i'm wasting my time again
Jul 22 21:14:32 <fx1> git isn't there either
Jul 22 21:21:30 <DimitrK> bollocks
Jul 22 21:26:11 <fx1> git is definitely not installed anywhere.
Jul 22 21:27:19 <DimitrK> have you tried sudo apt-get install git-core'/
Jul 22 21:27:22 <DimitrK> ?
Jul 22 21:28:18 <fx1> Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. it's doing stuff
Jul 22 21:28:34 <fx1> it's git!
Jul 22 21:28:35 <fx1> woo
Jul 22 21:29:54 <DimitrK> :D
Jul 22 21:30:00 <DimitrK> nice.
Jul 22 21:30:04 <DimitrK> Time to sleep :D
Jul 22 21:30:15 <DimitrK> good luck! go on!
Jul 22 21:30:28 <fx1> yeah, so now i have to battle installing all these freaking dependencies, ugh
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