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Apr 15 15:46:55 <dmanderson> cool crankin
Apr 15 15:47:31 <dmanderson> summatusmentis I don't have a write up, but I def could do one!
Apr 15 15:47:46 <crankin> please apply if your interested or if you know someone let them know!
Apr 15 15:48:08 <crankin> We just started using enyo.
Apr 15 15:48:13 <dmanderson> Local only?
Apr 15 15:48:26 <crankin> We'd consider remote for the right person.
Apr 15 15:51:47 <dmanderson> very cool, so backend is JS and Ruby? more Ruby?
Apr 15 15:58:06 <crankin> Well we have the legacy system that's all Ruby, and the new system is being built with Node.js
Apr 15 15:58:21 <crankin> So currently the answer is both.
Apr 15 15:58:33 <crankin> But we're looking to transition off of Ruby in the next year.
Apr 15 16:22:19 <dmanderson> awesome, thanks for the info
Apr 15 16:25:18 <SimpsonTP> ah nice some activity with the new release :)
Apr 15 18:53:30 <SimpsonTP> hmm how to deploy images
Apr 15 18:57:00 <SimpsonTP> I have some png files I use in my script code
Apr 15 20:36:47 <dmanderson> SimpsonTP when you say deploy?
Apr 15 20:37:21 <dmanderson> The build scripts/loader work nice to have you assets sitting next to your code, and then deploy on build.
Apr 15 20:37:37 <summatusmentis> SimpsonTP: stick the images in the assets folder
Apr 15 20:37:45 <summatusmentis> that's sort of the "normal" way
Apr 15 20:38:39 <summatusmentis> in that assets always stays where it is
Apr 15 20:40:00 <dmanderson> We've got our components setup to work with an internal bower repository. So our npm scripts, kick off the Enyo build process, and then bower finishes deploying the compiled components into our production environment from the build environment.
Apr 15 20:40:17 <summatusmentis> oy vey
Apr 15 20:40:26 <summatusmentis> I've never set any of that up
Apr 15 20:40:33 <summatusmentis> ./tools/deploy.sh, then scp
Apr 15 20:40:39 <summatusmentis> or whatever
Apr 15 20:40:41 <dmanderson> heh heh
Apr 15 20:41:48 <dmanderson> I like deploy.sh it works great.
Apr 15 20:41:53 <dmanderson> Just needed a way to streamline in our work flow
Apr 15 20:42:00 <dmanderson> 50-60 devs
Apr 15 20:42:02 <dmanderson> 120 websites
Apr 15 20:42:04 <dmanderson> 1 code base
Apr 15 20:42:14 <summatusmentis> sure
Apr 15 20:42:18 <summatusmentis> I'm basically the only dev
Apr 15 20:42:41 <dmanderson> sometimes thats great!
Apr 15 20:42:54 <dmanderson> no one to argue with you about Enyho
Apr 15 20:42:55 <dmanderson> ;-)
Apr 15 20:43:42 <summatusmentis> true :) I'm a PhD student, nobody gets to care
Apr 15 20:43:55 <dmanderson> HAHAHA!!!
Apr 15 20:47:47 <dmanderson> so what are you using EnyoJS for summatusmentis?
Apr 15 20:48:20 <summatusmentis> the mobile app and web interface for the system I manage
Apr 15 20:48:43 <summatusmentis> I'm a CS/HCI student, so we study how people use online systems
Apr 15 20:48:56 <dmanderson> nice
Apr 15 20:49:18 <summatusmentis> I'm building (and launching very soon) a platform for smartphone-based crowdsourcing systems
Apr 15 20:49:31 <summatusmentis> s/systems/platform/
Apr 15 20:49:32 <dmanderson> very cool, and good luck!
Apr 15 20:49:36 <summatusmentis> thanks :)
Apr 15 20:52:56 <SimpsonTP> summatusmentis, thx, that helped
Apr 15 20:53:15 <SimpsonTP> okay migration to enyoJS 2.4 done
Apr 15 20:53:21 <dmanderson> Woot
Apr 15 20:54:56 <SimpsonTP> moonstone stuff is still a bit to vague to try
Apr 15 20:57:23 <summatusmentis> SimpsonTP: sure thing
Apr 15 20:57:41 <summatusmentis> I should look into 2.4 at some point
Apr 15 21:00:47 <dmanderson> 2.4 is great
Apr 15 21:01:15 <dmanderson> I haven't had a chance to use Moonstone yet, the components look nice. But most things I interact with also need touch atm.
Apr 15 21:02:45 <summatusmentis> moonstone isn't touch?
Apr 15 21:03:08 <summatusmentis> I thought it would be
Apr 15 21:03:59 <dmanderson> I don't think it is, mostly for remote control navigating
Apr 15 21:04:33 <summatusmentis> I knew it was deisnged for TVs, the components look really big
Apr 15 21:11:32 <dmanderson> :) some of them would be nice onyx controls though.
Apr 15 21:15:53 <summatusmentis> yeah
Apr 15 21:16:44 <dmanderson> Going to have to make it a habit to talk more in this room. :D
Apr 15 21:17:28 <SimpsonTP> yeah more people should
Apr 15 21:17:44 <SimpsonTP> moonstone looks nice, but a bit to vague
Apr 15 21:18:22 <SimpsonTP> would like to use it for our stationary information monitors
Apr 15 21:19:46 <dmanderson> github :) all the docs you need ;-))))
Apr 15 21:21:39 <SimpsonTP> more from  design perspective
Apr 15 21:22:08 <SimpsonTP> 'use the source luke' :P
Apr 15 21:22:16 <dmanderson> HAHA
Apr 15 21:23:47 <SimpsonTP> for now I'm thrilled with enyo
Apr 15 21:28:51 <SimpsonTP> gona testdrive this enyo implementation for 2 days, and then we go to deploy it
Apr 15 21:30:23 <summatusmentis> do either of you use HTML form elements within other enyo?
Apr 15 21:32:32 <dmanderson> You mean just generic enyo form elements?
Apr 15 21:32:57 <summatusmentis> I mean generic HTML form elements
Apr 15 21:33:02 <summatusmentis> as a part of enyo components
Apr 15 21:33:05 <dmanderson> Yeah
Apr 15 21:33:27 <summatusmentis> you're using that?
Apr 15 21:33:38 <dmanderson> Yeah?
Apr 15 21:33:54 * dmanderson confused
Apr 15 21:33:56 <dmanderson> should I not be?
Apr 15 21:33:57 <dmanderson> :D
Apr 15 21:34:01 <dmanderson> LOL
Apr 15 21:34:03 <dmanderson> questions?
Apr 15 21:34:04 <summatusmentis> can you show me? I've been fighting with it, and I can't get radio buttons to act like radio buttons
Apr 15 21:34:12 <summatusmentis> sorry, not RadioButtons
Apr 15 21:34:38 <dmanderson> heh heh, np, which form control?
Apr 15 21:34:41 <summatusmentis> input elements, of type radio
Apr 15 21:35:42 <summatusmentis> basically, I've got a series of radio inputs, but they're not only selecting one
Apr 15 21:37:00 * SimpsonTP uses openlayers, but thats something else I guess
Apr 15 21:37:20 <summatusmentis> openlayers is a map
Apr 15 21:37:38 <SimpsonTP> well it renders quiet a bit of HTML
Apr 15 21:37:59 <summatusmentis> oh, true
Apr 15 21:38:07 <summatusmentis> technically, enyo just renders html
Apr 15 21:38:13 <summatusmentis> (we're using leaflet here)
Apr 15 21:45:49 <SimpsonTP> whats the pro / con over openlayers ?
Apr 15 21:48:31 <summatusmentis> smaller, simpler API
Apr 15 21:48:34 <summatusmentis> more mobile ready
Apr 15 21:48:51 <summatusmentis> less "GIS" type of functionality (because of the simpler API)
Apr 15 21:49:20 <summatusmentis> dmanderson: crap, ignore me. My radio input issue was because they didn't have the same "name" attribute
Apr 15 21:49:24 <summatusmentis> I'm just an idiot
Apr 15 21:49:33 <dmanderson> :)
Apr 15 21:49:44 <dmanderson> K, I was looking for something sticking out in my code but was going to say looks normal.
Apr 15 21:49:52 <dmanderson> Although it would be nice to have a radio kind
Apr 15 21:50:59 <summatusmentis> I'm not used to standard html as much
Apr 15 21:51:16 <summatusmentis> sorta jumped in on the deep end of enyo without web understanding
Apr 15 21:51:31 <SimpsonTP> summatusmentis, okay we need GIS capability
Apr 15 21:51:54 <summatusmentis> SimpsonTP: I mean, leaflet does some
Apr 15 21:51:59 <summatusmentis> and there's plugins to do more
Apr 15 21:52:21 <summatusmentis> nothing on the web does equivalent to what ArcMaps would do
Apr 15 21:53:05 <summatusmentis> or rather, ArcGIS
Apr 15 21:53:24 <SimpsonTP> yup
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