in the .html and then write a comments widget to write in the div with Enyo. Aug 01 18:17:42 and do the same for author, last updated, title, etc Aug 01 18:18:48 GodGinrai: how's that sound? Aug 01 18:19:22 yea, you can definitely do that Aug 01 18:20:45 Most enyo devs tend to focus on doing the whole page in Enyo Aug 01 18:20:58 But Enyo has no problems working in a widget-based manner throughout a page Aug 01 18:28:50 GodGinrai: has no problem, but has no built-in automated way of doing so right? Aug 01 18:39:37 I love widget enyo Aug 01 18:40:02 What do you mean automated? Aug 01 18:40:10 you can select a render target Aug 01 18:40:20 if you are using enyo.Application, then turn off renderOnStart Aug 01 18:40:27 and you can point to a DOM node Aug 01 18:52:45 dmanderson: automated as in some pattern. like tags with

and it will make a Foo Control for you sort of thing. Or {{author}} and it will get the author from your context or getAuthor() from your instance etc. Aug 01 19:36:06 I guess my question is: is it possible to create a Control instance simply by using HTML Aug 01 19:43:03 Zectbumo: your concept of "automated" isn't really automated. :\ Aug 01 19:43:36 well, it's not going to program itself Aug 01 19:43:43 Of course not Aug 01 19:43:51 but your div example, for example Aug 01 19:43:59 if done the way enyo is designed Aug 01 19:44:05 I should have used Automagically Aug 01 19:44:09 will be as simple as saying: { kind: "Foo" } Aug 01 19:44:42 right, but that's done in JS. Is Enyo not MVC? Aug 01 19:44:56 It can be Aug 01 19:45:19 But MVC does not need to explicitly have written HTML Aug 01 19:45:32 and it certainly doesn't need to have custom attributes Aug 01 19:45:40 on HTML tags Aug 01 19:45:49 I'm just looking at where the V part is. You know, the part you hand off to the HTML UI team. Aug 01 19:47:25 do I need to say, hey learn JS it's much easier in there. Aug 01 19:47:38 Zectbumo: You could always hand it off to a CSS team. Aug 01 19:48:12 It is not hard in HTML, but the way that Enyo does the JS actually makes everything easier than if you were to do separate HTML Aug 01 19:48:15 normally Aug 01 19:48:58 yeah, so far I see that. There was one app I made that I wasn't sure how to do so I didn't use Enyo. Aug 01 19:49:18 What was that, if I may ask? Aug 01 19:49:20 I was creating a bar chart sort of app Aug 01 19:50:01 and what was the problem you weren't sure how to solve w/ Enyo? Aug 01 19:50:31 and I didn't understand how to make the column one Kind that included the Label when they were actually split into two HTML components seperated by a div (which made the base line) Aug 01 19:51:52 The label being the part below the axis? Aug 01 19:51:56 yes Aug 01 19:52:22 so I couldn't wrap my head how I could just add a column Aug 01 19:52:32 and the "div" they were separated by was the div that the bars were in? Aug 01 19:53:14 the bars had their own div yes, but the div I mentioned was the axis line, so yes to both Aug 01 19:53:27 ok Aug 01 19:53:31 div with bar divs in them, then div for axis line, then div with labels in them Aug 01 19:54:20 dmanderson can correct me if he sees a better way, but I would have had bar kinds and label kinds, and connected them through a common "Column" model Aug 01 19:54:30 and I want to add a column, so I need to add a bar in the bars div and a label in the labels div. I couldn't see how a "column" could be made into a single object (Kind) Aug 01 19:55:21 Zectbumo: You would add a new "Column" model, and then your Chart kind should recognize that to display that it should add a bar kind and a label kind Aug 01 19:55:34 and ofcourse I need onclick events that match on the label and bar Aug 01 19:56:16 If they share the same controller, I believe you could just handle the onclick event there Aug 01 19:56:35 Column is a Component? Aug 01 19:57:00 Zectbumo: enyo.Model is a component. You could extend that to create a "Column" kind Aug 01 19:57:07 actually Aug 01 19:57:08 wait Aug 01 19:57:08 oh Aug 01 19:57:13 enyo.Model is an enyo.Object Aug 01 19:57:16 not a component Aug 01 19:57:21 but the concept is still the same Aug 01 19:57:32 hmm, well I just learned about Components like 2 days ago. I haven't gotten to Model yet Aug 01 19:57:47 are you reading the docs on their site? Aug 01 19:58:05 enyojs.com, yes Aug 01 19:58:42 This is useful for learning some of the MVC stuff: http://enyojs.com/docs/2.4.0/building-apps/managing-data/building-data-driven-apps.html Aug 01 20:00:11 ah, that was on my todo list :) Aug 01 20:05:36 I'm leaving work now. I may be on sometime this weekend if you still have questions. Aug 01 20:05:40 cya Aug 01 20:05:42 thx Aug 01 21:39:21 wow, this Ares editor is actually pretty nice. Who makes the editor? Aug 01 21:40:14 The old HP team did ares 2 Aug 01 21:40:31 it is on hold, there is plans for Ares 3, but we currently have other priorities Aug 01 21:41:14 Gray responded to a question in the forums about it yesterday: http://forums.enyojs.com/discussion/2186/ares-dead Aug 01 21:41:44 in house!?! Jeezz, this should really be used more out in the wild. It's not even glitchy and I've used some other bad web code editors out there. Aug 01 21:43:34 code folding with vertical line, highliting indenting, highlight quoting, end auto quoting with eating keys, syntax highlighting, code suggestion, and syntax warning, I mean dear god sir. Aug 01 21:44:32 and no UI glitches. I'm in Awe. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 02 02:59:59 2014