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Aug 18 11:56:01 <pjetr> afternoon / goodmorning
Aug 18 12:41:20 <pjetr> fels_zh: you have some connection issues, it would seem :)
Aug 18 12:43:23 <pjetr> morning
Aug 18 12:44:03 <GodGinrai> good morning
Aug 18 12:44:09 <GodGinrai> how was your weekend?
Aug 18 12:45:21 <pjetr> extra long, and extra wet
Aug 18 12:45:34 <GodGinrai> a lot of rain?
Aug 18 12:45:36 <pjetr> but good none the less
Aug 18 12:45:52 <pjetr> yes, summer's over, here in Belgium
Aug 18 12:46:24 <pjetr> and you?
Aug 18 12:46:30 <GodGinrai> summer involves tons of rain over here :P
Aug 18 12:46:38 <GodGinrai> so I also got some rain
Aug 18 12:47:13 <GodGinrai> but yes, my weekend went pretty well
Aug 18 12:47:31 <GodGinrai> I think I got a lead on why my webOS TV VM is crashing
Aug 18 12:49:50 <pjetr> do tell! :)
Aug 18 12:50:41 <GodGinrai> I think that hardware virtualisation may not be enabled in my bios
Aug 18 12:51:16 <GodGinrai> when I ran the VM from my Virtualbox VM manager rather than the shortcut, it gave me an actual error message
Aug 18 12:51:23 <GodGinrai> and when I looked up the error message
Aug 18 12:51:30 <GodGinrai> that seemed the most common cause
Aug 18 12:51:54 <GodGinrai> I'm going to work on fixing that when I get home today
Aug 18 15:54:27 <joop> @pjetr hey :)
Aug 18 15:54:43 <pjetr> hey joop, long time no see :)
Aug 18 15:55:05 <joop> indeed ^^ kind of forgot about this channel :p
Aug 18 15:55:11 <pjetr> how are you? what have you been up to?
Aug 18 15:55:24 <pjetr> I had the same until recently :)
Aug 18 15:55:31 <joop> same old same old..
Aug 18 15:55:39 <joop> I'm moving in september
Aug 18 15:55:44 <pjetr> It's gotten a lot more active, this channel
Aug 18 15:55:46 <pjetr> congrats
Aug 18 15:56:01 <pjetr> I've had a daughter since :)
Aug 18 15:56:06 <joop> serious? I have to subscribe then ^^
Aug 18 15:56:19 <joop> ooh lord that's a big change
Aug 18 15:56:22 <GodGinrai> lol subscribe, what is this, RSS? :P
Aug 18 15:56:36 <pjetr> we even have our own active enyo teammember, dmanderson
Aug 18 15:56:40 <joop> all went ok with the little one at birth?
Aug 18 15:56:46 <GodGinrai> pjetr: 2 now
Aug 18 15:56:50 <GodGinrai> sugardave came back
Aug 18 15:56:54 <pjetr> :o
Aug 18 15:57:19 <joop> I wish I could hit a subscribe button
Aug 18 15:57:33 <pjetr> yes, everything went smooth, no complaints :)
Aug 18 15:57:35 <joop> also a "solve this for me" button
Aug 18 15:57:36 <GodGinrai> joop: Just set your IRC client to auto-join the channel ;)
Aug 18 15:57:51 <pjetr> and get the client to open at boot :)
Aug 18 15:57:58 <joop> I'm on web irc atm godginrai
Aug 18 15:58:16 <GodGinrai> joop: Oh, I see.  How come?
Aug 18 15:58:24 <joop> yeah I know... work pc.. I'll do that for my rpi at home ok :)
Aug 18 15:58:45 <GodGinrai> joop: you can install browser extensions, right?
Aug 18 15:58:53 <joop> meh...
Aug 18 15:58:57 <joop> sure :)
Aug 18 15:59:06 <joop> sec phone
Aug 18 15:59:10 <GodGinrai> for work: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
Aug 18 16:00:03 <joop> tkx but I'm ok for now with this
Aug 18 16:00:26 <joop> just wishing for a whole lot of buttons to push on :D
Aug 18 16:00:33 <GodGinrai> lol
Aug 18 16:00:48 <GodGinrai> So you do Javascript development?
Aug 18 16:00:55 <joop> yes
Aug 18 16:01:20 <joop> I updated enyo from 2.2 to 2.5 lately
Aug 18 16:01:44 <joop> but what happened with the published properties and the binding stuff over there..
Aug 18 16:01:58 <GodGinrai> have they officially started calling the version on the git 2.5 already?
Aug 18 16:02:16 <joop> 2.5 beta 1 something long
Aug 18 16:02:27 <GodGinrai> ah, ok
Aug 18 16:02:55 <joop> better to downgrade to 2.4 with binding?
Aug 18 16:03:06 <GodGinrai> no, nightly should be fine
Aug 18 16:03:26 <GodGinrai> plus, the minified 2.4 in the bootplate is messed up
Aug 18 16:04:37 <joop> humm... is there any more info written about the bindings that I can read to comprehend my problem a bit more then?
Aug 18 16:05:04 <GodGinrai> joop: Have you already read the page on the enyo site?
Aug 18 16:05:19 <GodGinrai> http://enyojs.com/docs/2.4.0/building-apps/managing-data/building-data-driven-apps.html
Aug 18 16:05:38 <joop> docs? yeah... but I mean more about the internals
Aug 18 16:06:21 <joop> humm seems to be updated since last time I opened those
Aug 18 16:06:29 <GodGinrai> :)
Aug 18 16:06:38 <joop> I'll read some more :p
Aug 18 16:06:56 <joop> .. at home ..
Aug 18 16:07:02 <GodGinrai> heh
Aug 18 16:07:09 <joop> I'll leave you guys here for a sec
Aug 18 16:07:55 <joop> see you later. And @pjetr congrats again :)
Aug 18 16:08:01 <GodGinrai> cya
Aug 18 16:08:14 <joop> tjuus
Aug 18 16:08:53 <GodGinrai> tjuus <-- is that dutch?  It looks similar to the german tschuess
Aug 18 16:10:05 <pjetr> bye joop.
Aug 18 16:10:51 <pjetr> GodGinrai: it's not official Dutch, more slang. And it comes from the German word indeed.
Aug 18 16:11:33 <pjetr> same pronunciation
Aug 18 16:15:07 <GodGinrai> I see
Aug 18 16:21:54 <GodGinrai> hey Zectbumo
Aug 18 16:22:12 <Zectbumo> GodGinrai: How are you?
Aug 18 16:23:30 <GodGinrai> good
Aug 18 16:23:41 <GodGinrai> I think I have a lead as to why the WebOS TV VM was crashing
Aug 18 16:23:51 <GodGinrai> going to try to fix it tonight
Aug 18 16:25:06 <pjetr> good luck
Aug 18 16:25:14 <pjetr> I'm calling it a day :)
Aug 18 16:25:17 * pjetr out
Aug 18 17:43:58 <dmanderson> morning enyos
Aug 18 17:44:04 <GodGinrai> morning dmanderson
Aug 18 17:51:11 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: Onyx needs a Picker that is better suited for desktop use
Aug 18 17:51:39 <dmanderson> Yeah?
Aug 18 17:51:57 <GodGinrai> yea
Aug 18 18:32:05 <Herrie> Anyone here has worked with launch parameters for Enyo 2.0 apps?
Aug 18 18:32:45 <summatusmentis> right, the pickers aren't "real"
Aug 18 18:33:02 <summatusmentis> Herrie: depends on what you mean
Aug 18 18:33:48 <Herrie> Well basically we want app A to call app B with some parameter
Aug 18 18:34:06 <Herrie> App B would need to go to a certain part in the app based on the parameter passed by app A
Aug 18 18:34:38 <summatusmentis> hrm
Aug 18 18:34:56 <Herrie> Found some stuff for Mojo and legacy Enyo
Aug 18 18:35:01 <Herrie> For example: http://metaviewsoft.de/wordpress/?p=443
Aug 18 18:35:05 <summatusmentis> and you're talking about individual processes on whatever device
Aug 18 18:35:38 <Herrie> https://developer.palm.com/content/api/dev-guide/enyo/enyo-windows.html
Aug 18 18:35:53 <Herrie> Yeah it are 2 seperate apps
Aug 18 18:36:24 <summatusmentis> I've never done anything like that
Aug 18 18:36:27 <Herrie> http://webos101.com/Multi-Card_Applications
Aug 18 18:36:37 <Herrie> It has "var params = enyo.windowParams;"
Aug 18 18:38:05 <summatusmentis> you can define parameters in App.js as "published" properties
Aug 18 18:38:07 <Herrie> Hmmz seems this might do :) https://github.com/webOS-ports/org.webosports.app.calendar/blob/5c1db766ce0ce50929010f787ea995539f66d2a3/lib/util/source/WindowParams.js
Aug 18 18:38:16 <summatusmentis> I wonder if you'd need to manage your windows outside of Enyo
Aug 18 18:38:38 <Herrie> We have a whole OS running in background ;)
Aug 18 18:38:45 <Herrie> That does window management ;)
Aug 18 18:39:19 <summatusmentis> right, but I meant from index.html
Aug 18 18:39:21 <summatusmentis> for instance
Aug 18 18:40:02 <sugardave> I would speculate that on a webOS 3.x device you might be able to use enyo.Signals to listen for launch events....though not sure if the window params are in there or not
Aug 18 18:40:07 <summatusmentis> like, instantiating different windows from index.html, and passing parameters in as published properties, which then has a call-chain of behavior based on the published properties
Aug 18 18:42:34 <sugardave> Herrie: another route might be to make a public service that can be called from either app and the poll it for changes or something.  Not the best, but maybe easier
Aug 18 18:45:29 <GodGinrai> summatusmentis: launch parameters?
Aug 18 18:46:00 <GodGinrai> oh wait, I see you elaborated
Aug 18 18:46:01 <GodGinrai> let me read
Aug 18 18:47:12 <GodGinrai> also
Aug 18 18:47:16 <GodGinrai> no idea why I said summatusmentis
Aug 18 18:47:18 <GodGinrai> meant Herrie
Aug 18 18:55:10 <GodGinrai> Herrie: so launch parameters are just the query string?
Aug 18 18:55:18 <Herrie> YEah
Aug 18 18:55:38 <Herrie> We have a settings app and want to be able to call it with parameters so the app will open at the right panel right away
Aug 18 18:55:51 <sugardave> oh, you should use enyo.Router
Aug 18 18:55:56 <GodGinrai> ^this
Aug 18 18:56:03 <GodGinrai> I was thinking about suggesting enyo.Router
Aug 18 18:57:14 <Herrie> Ah let me read into that :O)
Aug 18 19:08:40 <GodGinrai> sugardave: wasn't there a docs page that explained enyo.Router?  I'm having trouble finding it now
Aug 18 19:26:50 <sugardave> I think I only ever used the source, but it's in the API viewer now
Aug 18 19:26:51 <sugardave> http://enyojs.com/docs/latest/api/#enyo.Router
Aug 18 23:54:29 <SimpsonTP> hi all
Aug 19 00:22:18 <dmanderson> hi
Aug 19 00:22:42 <dmanderson> bah late playback :D
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