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Aug 28 12:52:01 <pjetr> afternoom roon
Aug 28 14:07:40 <GodGinrai> hey dmanderson, you there?
Aug 28 14:08:00 <GodGinrai> Simpson_2, SimpsonTP as well.
Aug 28 14:40:47 <pjetr> and both are gone missing :o
Aug 28 14:43:14 <Simpson_2> I'm there
Aug 28 14:43:51 <GodGinrai> Simpson_2: your dynamic binding problem from yesterday
Aug 28 14:44:00 <GodGinrai> Simpson_2: I feel you are overcomplicating it
Aug 28 14:44:33 <Simpson_2> -v
Aug 28 14:44:43 <GodGinrai> -v?
Aug 28 14:48:22 <Simpson_2> -v == verbose
Aug 28 14:48:49 <Simpson_2> I'm not so much interested in your opinion, more in the motivation behind your opinion
Aug 28 14:49:02 <Simpson_2> you might have good point :)
Aug 28 14:52:14 <GodGinrai> I see
Aug 28 14:52:32 <GodGinrai> Basically, Simpson_2, since you want to have a binding between your app and the created kind
Aug 28 14:52:54 <GodGinrai> You can just have that binding pre-existing in your app
Aug 28 14:53:06 <GodGinrai> and it will do its job as soon as said kind exists
Aug 28 15:07:29 <GodGinrai> Simpson_2: Here's an example fiddle that illustrates my point: http://jsfiddle.net/9j7vttfx/
Aug 28 15:13:08 <Simpson_2> I see what you do, but its not what i mean, I'll do a jsfiddle tomorrow
Aug 28 15:13:21 <GodGinrai> k
Aug 28 16:25:41 <sugardave> I thought of suggesting binding from the other direction, but I wanted to see what his use case is first
Aug 28 16:43:38 <dmanderson> Morning Enyos
Aug 28 16:45:03 <GodGinrai> good morning
Aug 28 16:45:11 <GodGinrai> you're awfully late :P
Aug 28 16:54:21 <dmanderson> I’m early!
Aug 28 16:55:53 <GodGinrai> not really <.<
Aug 28 16:56:08 <GodGinrai> btw, I just learned about React yesterday
Aug 28 16:57:00 <GodGinrai> it's funny because it's similar to Enyo, but other devs are learning about it because it's backed by Facebook :P
Aug 28 16:57:37 <GodGinrai> Although I would say that Enyo's frontpage advertises to the wrong people
Aug 28 16:57:57 <GodGinrai> whereas React's advertises to the right people
Aug 28 16:58:52 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: you should get the team in gear for fixing the front page
Aug 28 16:59:15 <dmanderson> interesting
Aug 28 16:59:16 <dmanderson> :)
Aug 28 17:00:57 <GodGinrai> The enyo frontpage needs to be more like this: http://facebook.github.io/react/
Aug 28 17:01:13 <GodGinrai> Actual code and examples that shows the developer why they should use Enyo
Aug 28 17:01:54 <GodGinrai> all those quotes etc. is how you advertise to business people, not to developers
Aug 28 17:06:48 <dmanderson> https://github.com/enyojs/enyosite
Aug 28 17:06:50 <dmanderson> ;-)
Aug 28 17:07:02 <dmanderson> oh nvm
Aug 28 17:07:04 <dmanderson> that’s private
Aug 28 17:07:05 <dmanderson> ugh
Aug 28 17:07:24 <GodGinrai> lol
Aug 28 19:25:51 <Simpson_2> dmanderson, like what we discussed ;)
Aug 28 19:26:15 <dmanderson> ;-)
Aug 28 19:26:37 <Simpson_2> but seriously a good point
Aug 28 19:32:22 <GodGinrai> brb
Aug 28 19:32:27 <GodGinrai> monitor fucked up
Aug 28 20:07:55 <chall> ugh
Aug 28 20:07:58 <chall> I hate scrollers
Aug 28 20:08:14 <chall> read: I don't understand scrollers, so they never work correctly
Aug 28 20:09:48 <GodGinrai> chall: they are not the most fun things, indeed :P
Aug 28 20:09:58 <GodGinrai> chall: what's your current problem?
Aug 28 20:10:34 <chall> GodGinrai, mostly that it doesn't seem to know how tall it should be
Aug 28 20:10:51 <chall> so it just grows and grows until it's thousands of pixels tall
Aug 28 20:10:58 <GodGinrai> chall: yea, it defaults to 0 unless you *tell* it how tall it should be
Aug 28 20:11:08 <GodGinrai> wait what
Aug 28 20:11:08 <chall> which I can't, in this case
Aug 28 20:11:37 <chall> I have it inside an element sized via fit: true inside a FittableRow
Aug 28 20:11:58 <GodGinrai> can you make an example fiddle?
Aug 28 20:15:36 <chall> I'll see if I can whip something up.  Do you have a base fiddle I can start from?
Aug 28 20:15:59 <chall> ah, nvm
Aug 28 20:16:10 <chall> didn't know Enyo was listed by default
Aug 28 20:17:46 <GodGinrai> :)
Aug 28 20:32:36 <GodGinrai> chall: I'm about to leave work.  I'll get on IRC when I get home, so you can send me the link to your fiddle then
Aug 28 20:35:53 <chall> kk
Aug 28 20:36:02 <chall> I'm having some trouble reproducing it
Aug 28 21:56:26 <dmanderson> scrollers can be a pain point, for sure.
Aug 28 21:57:14 <chall> the worst part is that I can't reproduce it
Aug 28 22:09:07 <dmanderson> :-(
Aug 28 22:36:27 <GodGinrai> hey chall, I'm here now
Aug 28 22:43:42 <chall> wb
Aug 28 22:43:54 <chall> unfortunately, I've been unable to reproduce the issue in a fiddle so far
Aug 28 22:45:54 <GodGinrai> ah damn
Aug 28 22:59:48 <dmanderson> wb
Aug 28 23:01:55 <GodGinrai> ty
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