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Sep 03 12:55:37 <pjetr> dmanderson, this gulp-enyo-builder thingy, is that your handiwork?
Sep 03 12:55:47 <pjetr> and, hello and whatnot
Sep 03 16:11:55 <pjetr_> what happened here
Sep 03 16:12:07 <pjetr_> :o I'm not me
Sep 03 16:12:18 <GodGinrai> you pinged out
Sep 03 16:13:42 <chall> le gasp
Sep 03 16:13:47 <chall> it's an impostor!
Sep 03 16:14:07 <chall> are you a spy?!?
Sep 03 16:14:31 <pjetr_> I'm not sure, am I?
Sep 03 16:14:45 <GodGinrai> 12:13 < chall> le gasp <-- *gasp* it's a Frenchman!
Sep 03 16:15:01 <chall> I am NOT French!
Sep 03 16:15:08 <chall> >:[
Sep 03 16:15:10 <GodGinrai> :P
Sep 03 16:15:20 <chall> These colors don't run, son
Sep 03 16:15:24 <pjetr_> oh, in that case, where are my manners: Bonjour, comment ca va?
Sep 03 16:15:31 <GodGinrai> lol
Sep 03 16:15:49 <pjetr_> could be French Canadian?
Sep 03 16:16:04 <chall> I actually am French Canadian on my mother's side...
Sep 03 16:16:12 <GodGinrai> chall: AHA!
Sep 03 16:16:25 <pjetr_> And you call me a spy!
Sep 03 16:16:25 <chall> but it's half Canadian!
Sep 03 16:16:28 <chall> it's totally okay
Sep 03 16:16:38 <GodGinrai> I don't know
Sep 03 16:16:43 <chall> Canada is cool
Sep 03 16:16:49 <GodGinrai> chall: Quebec isn't
Sep 03 16:16:50 <chall> it's, like, America's hat
Sep 03 16:17:43 <chall> GodGinrai, that's too bad.  According to my grandpa, one of my ancestors was involved in its founding
Sep 03 16:18:06 <chall> granted, I have not validated this claim
Sep 03 16:18:10 <GodGinrai> chall: Well, your grandpa must be rolling in his grave now
Sep 03 16:18:12 <chall> it's probably not true
Sep 03 16:18:20 <chall> that'd be difficult
Sep 03 16:18:25 <chall> he's not dead yet
Sep 03 16:18:30 <GodGinrai> It's like a whole province of Parisians
Sep 03 16:18:37 <GodGinrai> whoops
Sep 03 16:18:40 <chall> np
Sep 03 16:18:42 <GodGinrai> meant that the ancestor was
Sep 03 16:18:44 <chall> oh
Sep 03 16:18:50 <chall> well, yeah
Sep 03 16:19:36 <chall> I'm sure I have quite a few unrested ancestors
Sep 03 16:19:40 <GodGinrai> back to my point about quebec:  like a province of Parisians, except instead of looking down on Americans, they look down on anyone that speaks English
Sep 03 16:19:41 <chall> but, then, who doesn't?
Sep 03 16:19:58 <chall> lol
Sep 03 16:20:17 <GodGinrai> or maybe it's anyone who doesn't speak French
Sep 03 16:20:17 <chall> I should learn French just to go there and not speak it
Sep 03 16:20:25 <chall> but understand everything they say
Sep 03 16:20:29 <GodGinrai> we'd have to send a spanish-speaking person there to know for sure
Sep 03 16:20:31 <chall> but always respond in English
Sep 03 16:21:11 <GodGinrai> chall: that sounds exactly what the Parisians do (they understand most English, and then respond in French
Sep 03 16:21:15 <GodGinrai> anyway, gotta go get lunch
Sep 03 16:38:27 <dmanderson> pjetr yes it is, I haven’t had a chance to work on gulp-enyo-builder in a while, it’s not a proper implimentation
Sep 03 16:38:32 <dmanderson> also morning enyos
Sep 03 16:38:52 <chall> mornin'
Sep 03 16:51:20 <sugardave> have I told you all lately how much I $%^@&!* loathe QML?
Sep 03 16:53:51 <chall> no
Sep 03 16:54:01 <chall> but I imagine I'll be complaining about it in the near future
Sep 03 16:55:47 <chall> I have to mess with something written in Qt soon
Sep 03 16:55:55 <chall> written with, rather
Sep 03 16:56:14 <chall> sugardave, what's bad about it?
Sep 03 16:56:25 <Simpson_2> hi dmanderson
Sep 03 16:56:38 <dmanderson> Hey hey hey
Sep 03 16:56:38 <Simpson_2> dmanderson, had a chance to look at my grunt patch ?
Sep 03 16:56:46 <dmanderson> :-D
Sep 03 16:56:53 <dmanderson> I promise to do so today!
Sep 03 16:57:02 <Simpson_2> dmanderson, I'll be in bay area last week of october again
Sep 03 16:57:09 <dmanderson> Awesome!
Sep 03 17:00:38 <sugardave> chall: I'm sure it's a fine framework IF you've never been fortunate enough to have used Enyo
Sep 03 17:00:54 <Simpson_2> I have this w3c conference during the week but I'm still there on saturday
Sep 03 17:01:12 <dmanderson> Great, we should def get together again if you have time
Sep 03 17:01:55 <sugardave> chall: but I am REALLY hating their data-binding system...and component layouts...and signals....and....basically I'm finding that I have to micromanage EVERYTHING in qml.
Sep 03 17:02:05 <sugardave> it's pretty stupid
Sep 03 17:02:08 <chall> that sucks
Sep 03 17:03:04 <sugardave> plus, I spent 4+ years mastering Enyo and now I'm barred from using it.
Sep 03 17:03:07 <sugardave> I'm not bitter
Sep 03 17:03:14 <sugardave> <sarcasm> ^^^^
Sep 03 17:04:22 <Simpson_2> sugardave, where are you now then ?
Sep 03 17:04:44 <sugardave> well, Developer Relations was eliminated.  Now I'm on the core apps team
Sep 03 17:05:19 <sugardave> much to my chagrin
Sep 03 17:07:00 <Simpson_2> but still at lg ?
Sep 03 17:07:04 <sugardave> yes
Sep 03 17:07:15 <Simpson_2> we didn't meet did we last week ? ;)
Sep 03 17:07:41 <sugardave> no, I wasn't in SC last week.  I work remotely in Austin, TX but I'm here this week for....some reason
Sep 03 17:11:00 <Simpson_2> :)
Sep 03 17:14:33 <Simpson_2> dinner, ttl
Sep 03 17:21:07 <GodGinrai> sugardave: what are you using QML for?
Sep 03 17:27:16 <sugardave> a whipping boy, currently
Sep 03 17:28:15 <sugardave> or a test to see how long I can hold in a murderous rampage
Sep 03 17:28:19 <sugardave> either of those will suffice
Sep 03 17:29:55 <GodGinrai> lol
Sep 03 18:27:45 <GodGinrai> back
Sep 03 18:29:26 <GodGinrai> sugardave: you're on the core apps team?  Code us a Preware >:D
Sep 03 18:31:42 <Simpson_2> back as well
Sep 03 18:31:51 * Simpson_2 just realizes he still didn't finish the fiddle
Sep 03 18:32:09 <Simpson_2> sugardave, any hints on the localization we talked about yesterday ?
Sep 03 18:33:13 <GodGinrai> Simpson_2: for shame :P
Sep 03 18:33:20 <GodGinrai> localization?
Sep 03 18:34:08 <Simpson_2> yeah mulitlingual user interfaces
Sep 03 18:35:27 <GodGinrai> isn't that what you are supposed to use i18n for?
Sep 03 18:37:12 <Simpson_2> yup, where is the documentation :)
Sep 03 18:44:06 <GodGinrai> Simpson_2: http://sourceforge.net/projects/i18nlib/files/latest-builds/20140828-build-7.0-004/ilib-7.0-doc.zip/download
Sep 03 18:47:12 <GodGinrai> Simpson_2: https://github.com/enyojs/enyo-ilib
Sep 03 18:47:13 <sugardave> Simpson_2: no, but let me go ask the guy who shoe-horned ilib in
Sep 03 18:49:00 <sugardave> unfortunately, he is not at his desk (or maybe in SF today)
Sep 03 18:49:14 <sugardave> it is lunch time, though so perhaps he will be back in a while
Sep 03 18:49:43 <Simpson_2> np
Sep 03 18:50:05 <GodGinrai> sugardave: When he's back at his desk... show him this and ask "really?": https://github.com/enyojs/enyo-ilib/blob/master/samples/LoadiLibResources.js
Sep 03 18:50:31 <sugardave> hahah
Sep 03 18:50:32 <sugardave> nice
Sep 03 18:51:02 <Simpson_2> is he dutch ?
Sep 03 18:53:50 <sugardave> I think so
Sep 03 18:54:02 <Simpson_2> he should be with that name ;)
Sep 03 18:55:18 <sugardave> heh, definitely
Sep 03 18:55:35 <Simpson_2> or at least have roots here :)
Sep 03 19:04:18 <Simpson_2> sugardave, so you are not involved in anyway with enyo anymore ?
Sep 03 19:08:34 <sugardave> not at all
Sep 03 19:09:49 <sugardave> I need to go find food
Sep 03 19:13:07 <Simpson_2> the famous hunter gatherers
Sep 03 23:14:28 <sugardave> GodGinrai: Edwin said he didn't write that sample :D
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