**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Sep 05 02:59:59 2014
Sep 05 03:10:33 <GodGinrai> Hey i2y4n
Sep 05 03:11:02 <GodGinrai> I realized that thanks to the change I made that separated the NavBar into one instance, you don't even need bindings to show the active button
Sep 05 03:11:06 <GodGinrai> just use enyo.group
Sep 05 03:11:26 <GodGinrai> * enyo.Group
Sep 05 03:12:23 <GodGinrai> i2y4n: here's the PoC: http://jsfiddle.net/o5k8752a/7/
Sep 05 05:12:09 <GodGinrai> well, I'm heading out for the night
Sep 05 06:12:20 <Garfonso> oh.. h, That fiddles are nice. Using views instead of panels. Never thought about that.
Sep 05 06:12:28 <Garfonso> what's the advantage? ;)
Sep 05 15:03:18 <sugardave> fels_zh: man, you make it hard to scroll back and find the last place I disconnected my screen :P
Sep 05 15:04:01 <GodGinrai> and he never says anything either -_-
Sep 05 15:05:07 * sugardave is tempted.
Sep 05 15:05:35 <GodGinrai> lol
Sep 05 15:05:43 <sugardave> fels_zh_: hey buddy, how's it going?
Sep 05 15:06:31 <SimpsonTP> :)
Sep 05 15:06:47 <SimpsonTP> hi sugardave saw my last remark yesterday ?
Sep 05 15:07:21 <sugardave> yes, but when I tried that fiddle, it had syntax errors and I didn't have time to track them down and see what you had working
Sep 05 15:08:09 <GodGinrai> sugardave: fels_zh is taunting you now :P
Sep 05 15:08:16 <sugardave> heh
Sep 05 15:08:23 <sugardave> damn Romanians
Sep 05 15:08:28 <GodGinrai> lol
Sep 05 15:09:01 <fels_zh> hi -
Sep 05 15:09:06 <sugardave> hey!
Sep 05 15:09:30 <sugardave> do you need help with your IRC client?  It keeps disconnecting/reconnecting every 2 minutes or so, it seems
Sep 05 15:10:20 <GodGinrai> Hey SimpsonTP, I applied what we learned from the State Change fiddle to some code that I was helping a user with last night, thought you might find it interesting: http://jsfiddle.net/o5k8752a/7/
Sep 05 15:12:04 <SimpsonTP> http://jsfiddle.net/0jvLpf0L/14/
Sep 05 15:13:38 <sugardave> SimpsonTP: I'm failing to see the difference in that one and the one that didn't work :/
Sep 05 15:15:25 <SimpsonTP> this on has binding in the component tree: http://jsfiddle.net/0jvLpf0L/12/
Sep 05 15:17:25 <sugardave> OH
Sep 05 15:17:30 <sugardave> I didn't catch on to that yesterday
Sep 05 15:17:33 <sugardave> duh
Sep 05 15:17:47 <sugardave> okay, so 14 is how I would definitely expect it to work and it does
Sep 05 15:17:56 <GodGinrai> SimpsonTP: #14 has createe
Sep 05 15:17:56 <synergybot> Ouch! An error occurred: 'ConfigDict' object has no attribute 'chiliproject_apikey'
Sep 05 15:17:56 <synergybot> !# None
Sep 05 15:18:19 <sugardave> it's fine
Sep 05 15:18:20 <GodGinrai> whoa
Sep 05 15:18:25 <sugardave> here's a cleaned up one
Sep 05 15:18:27 <GodGinrai> what is synergybot doing?
Sep 05 15:18:27 <sugardave> http://jsfiddle.net/sugardave/0jvLpf0L/15/
Sep 05 15:18:41 <sugardave> #wtf synergybot
Sep 05 15:18:50 <sugardave> I don't even know what that is
Sep 05 15:19:03 <GodGinrai> #1
Sep 05 15:19:03 <synergybot> Ouch! An error occurred: 'ConfigDict' object has no attribute 'chiliproject_apikey'
Sep 05 15:19:03 <synergybot> !# None
Sep 05 15:19:07 <GodGinrai> weird
Sep 05 15:19:12 <GodGinrai> #help
Sep 05 15:19:14 <sugardave> SimpsonTP: 15 there also has the new style of overwriting methods
Sep 05 15:20:31 <sugardave> who owns synergybot?
Sep 05 15:20:52 <GodGinrai> no idea
Sep 05 15:21:18 <GodGinrai> So, what exactly is the point of this fiddle that SimpsonTP is toying with?
Sep 05 15:22:01 <sugardave> he won't tell us his secret reason or doing it this way :P
Sep 05 15:22:08 <sugardave> s/or/for/
Sep 05 15:22:09 <synergybot> sugardave meant: he won't tell us his secret reason for doing it this way :P
Sep 05 15:22:15 <sugardave> ah ha!
Sep 05 15:22:25 <sugardave> ~seen sugardave
Sep 05 15:22:41 <summatusmentis> #seen sugardave
Sep 05 15:23:20 <sugardave> hmm
Sep 05 15:23:56 <GodGinrai> This bot <.<
Sep 05 15:25:03 * sugardave heads into the office.
Sep 05 15:41:08 <SimpsonTP> :)
Sep 05 15:42:04 <GodGinrai> SimpsonTP: what exactly are you trying to accomplish w/ that fiddle?
Sep 05 17:34:26 <dmanderson> Morning enyos
Sep 05 17:36:10 <GodGinrai> morning dmanderson
Sep 05 18:14:44 <dmanderson> How is it going in here today?
Sep 05 18:14:47 <dmanderson> Quiet for a friday :)
Sep 05 18:15:29 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: no one is really asking questions :P
Sep 05 18:16:14 <GodGinrai> oh btw, dmanderson, can you tell me how i2y4n responded last night after I left?  the logs for this morning aren't available until tomorrow :\
Sep 05 18:19:09 <i2y4n> Ha, I didn’t respond yet.
Sep 05 18:19:19 <dmanderson> I don’t have anything
Sep 05 18:19:22 <dmanderson> Oh yea ^^ :)
Sep 05 18:19:49 <GodGinrai> i2y4n: oh hey
Sep 05 18:19:58 <GodGinrai> didn't even notice you joined while I was at lunch XD
Sep 05 18:24:54 <i2y4n> Damn, I blew my cover
Sep 05 18:26:00 <GodGinrai> lol
Sep 05 18:27:39 <i2y4n> Hmm, you took the NavBar kind out of all of the different pages?
Sep 05 18:28:03 <i2y4n> So, how does it always appear without the kind?
Sep 05 18:28:30 <sugardave> I haven't looked at your stuff i2y4n, but it sounds like you'd want just one NavBar kind that's ever-present
Sep 05 18:28:58 <GodGinrai> i2y4n: I put the NavBar in the View for the app
Sep 05 18:29:03 <GodGinrai> and in that view
Sep 05 18:29:05 <i2y4n> Yea, I think that’s what he did. I’m just trying to understand how he did it.
Sep 05 18:29:15 <GodGinrai> I put a ViewController where the different pages would be rendered to
Sep 05 18:30:18 <GodGinrai> Thus, instead of rendering each page into document.body, you can just change the view in the ViewController
Sep 05 18:31:46 <i2y4n> GodGinrai: The skeleton is the ViewController?
Sep 05 18:33:14 <GodGinrai> i2y4n: Skeleton is the Test Application's View.  The ViewController I was talking about is in Skeleton's components (named page)
Sep 05 18:35:40 <i2y4n> Alright, gonna see if I can add the ViewController into the app on my own now.
Sep 05 18:35:51 <GodGinrai> k
Sep 05 18:37:07 <i2y4n> I have one more question, this one with the images
Sep 05 18:37:26 <GodGinrai> yes?
Sep 05 18:37:43 <i2y4n> I set the width at 100%, and I’d like a padding/margin on the right and left
Sep 05 18:38:05 <i2y4n> but the pic always goes to the right edge of the window
Sep 05 18:38:34 <i2y4n> changing the padding or the margin has no effect
Sep 05 18:39:27 <GodGinrai> That's because of the way 100% is calculated
Sep 05 18:39:46 <GodGinrai> by default
Sep 05 18:40:04 <GodGinrai> the width of an object in HTML/CSS ignores padding and margin
Sep 05 18:40:22 <GodGinrai> those are added on after the width is determined
Sep 05 18:46:57 <GodGinrai> i2y4n: I assume this is along the lines of what you wanted? (except I used 20px) http://jsfiddle.net/o5k8752a/8/
Sep 05 18:48:16 <i2y4n> Yep, that’ll do it. Thank you!
Sep 05 18:48:20 <GodGinrai> yw :)
Sep 05 18:49:04 <GodGinrai> the box-sizing: border-box rule tells CSS to view padding and border as part of the width calculation
Sep 05 19:01:09 <sugardave> why use a ViewController instead of Panels?
Sep 05 19:01:21 * sugardave loves Panels.
Sep 05 19:01:57 <GodGinrai> sugardave: less memory usage and HTML and CSS becomes easier
Sep 05 19:02:39 <sugardave> I can see less memory usage, but I don't know about the other part
Sep 05 19:03:14 <GodGinrai> sugardave: deal with idiots who zoom out their browser and complain and then you will feel otherwise :P
Sep 05 19:03:22 <sugardave> heh
Sep 05 19:54:57 <GodGinrai> wb Zectbumo
Sep 05 20:02:22 <dmanderson> wb!
Sep 05 20:52:02 <Zectbumo> anything exciting going on in the enyo space?
Sep 05 21:18:12 <sugardave> I'm almost finished with my Enyo drone control app
Sep 05 21:18:19 <sugardave> (just kidding)
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