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Nov 24 15:15:15 <GodGinrai> hey dmanderson, you there?
Nov 24 15:33:19 <Semanticfire> it is still early there :)
Nov 24 15:33:54 <GodGinrai> yea :/
Nov 24 18:41:36 <dmanderson> morning enyos
Nov 24 18:41:39 <dmanderson> Sorry I slept in today
Nov 24 18:41:49 <dmanderson> :)
Nov 24 18:44:11 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: I'm confident that documentation is one of the biggest reasons we don't have people using Enyo.  I have been looking into Angular due to work, and I have come to realize that it is a steaming mess.
Nov 24 18:44:29 <GodGinrai> At the same time, it is popular because they have tutorials that explain that mess.
Nov 24 18:45:08 <dmanderson> Yeah, very easy to get started with copy and paste with angular
Nov 24 18:52:56 <Herrie> Yeah for me there was little documentation in between "Hello World" and advanced stuff
Nov 24 18:53:04 <Herrie> This bugged me about Enyo & Mojo as well
Nov 24 18:53:22 <Herrie> I got started with QML and could build a browser fairly quickly, doing the same with Enyo, not so much :P
Nov 24 18:53:47 <GodGinrai> Most of the advanced stuff I learned from users here
Nov 24 18:53:52 <GodGinrai> or from the API
Nov 24 18:54:02 <GodGinrai> or from reading Enyo's actual source
Nov 24 18:58:24 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: The test site for the docs should have collapsible categories for Description, Properties, Methods, and Events
Nov 24 18:58:51 <GodGinrai> Also, Events should be just below description, and properties and methods should be collapsed at the beginning
Nov 24 18:59:04 <GodGinrai> (at the beginning meaning at page load)
Nov 24 18:59:33 <GodGinrai> So Description(open), Events(open), Properties(closed), Methods(closed)
Nov 24 18:59:56 <GodGinrai> Also
Nov 24 19:00:02 <GodGinrai> there's a lot of extra whitepsace
Nov 24 19:00:05 <GodGinrai> *space
Nov 24 19:00:23 <GodGinrai> which is unnecessarily forcing me to scroll more
Nov 24 19:01:30 <GodGinrai> Also, the "Extends X>Y>Z" breadcrumb should be part of the main header like in the old API
Nov 24 19:02:04 <GodGinrai> it's fine to make the kind have larger text than the others, but it is a waste of space to give the extensions their own separate line
Nov 24 19:17:17 <dmanderson> Thanks for all teh feed back!
Nov 24 19:19:51 <GodGinrai> yw
Nov 24 20:45:39 <Semanticfire_2> hi dmanderson
Nov 24 20:45:47 <dmanderson> Hey Semanticfire_2!
Nov 24 20:46:05 <Semanticfire_2> so how did you move forward with the input ?
Nov 24 20:47:07 <dmanderson> Mostly just bringing up for discussion while we’re doing some planning, and working on finalizing some 2.5 stuffs
Nov 24 20:47:30 <Semanticfire_2> ok
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