**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 02 02:59:58 2014 Dec 02 18:45:41 god angular just keeps getting worse and worse -_- Dec 02 18:47:54 is there actually another framework out there which is like enyo, so full JS Dec 02 18:50:44 ReactJS by Facebook is pretty close Dec 02 18:55:22 ah seen that, was not impressed Dec 02 18:56:47 Semanticfire_2: Polymers Dec 02 18:56:53 it's made by former Enyo devs Dec 02 18:58:09 Semanticfire_2: https://www.polymer-project.org/ Dec 02 18:59:20 to much HTML for my taste Dec 02 18:59:37 well yea, Polymer is about using the Shadow DOM Dec 02 19:01:36 Still, if you look into it, you'll see a lot of the enyo influence Dec 02 19:05:47 Semanticfire_2: oh, I might have understood you wrong Dec 02 19:06:01 are you looking for a framework where you don't need to write any html? Dec 02 19:06:09 I thought you meant one that worked similar to Enyo Dec 02 19:07:05 Semanticfire_2: if you are looking for an all-JS framework, then you may be interested in mithril: http://lhorie.github.io/mithril/ Dec 02 19:09:59 * GodGinrai feels like he is talking to a brick wall Dec 02 19:10:35 uhm ? Dec 02 19:11:22 he lives! Dec 02 19:15:09 speaking of mithril... dmanderson, you guys should pay attention to the site for it. The site layout quickly presents links to the guide and API on the front page. Plus, it has weekly articles on how to use mithril: http://lhorie.github.io/mithril-blog/ Dec 02 19:15:21 That's the kind of stuff we need for enyo Dec 02 19:15:45 nice GodGinrai Dec 02 19:15:46 sorry I'm doing some work here Dec 02 19:17:09 weekly articles would help show people how to use enyo, and code snippets, small examples, and links to docs and api are much more likely to drive interest than a slider with random quotes about the framework and a dismal list of 3 companies using the framework Dec 02 19:27:48 I think what would help is a website which allows community to help the website Dec 02 19:33:25 Semanticfire_2: that's certainly useful, but you can't rely on the community for everything. There needs to be a substantial effort put forth by LG, too Dec 02 19:35:54 sure Dec 02 19:36:02 but what if the site was in github Dec 02 19:36:25 LG provides the basics and you can fork a page and then add a sample or whatever to it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 03 02:59:58 2014