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Dec 16 21:43:00 <dmanderson> Such quiets today
Dec 16 21:47:51 <chall> I can fix that!
Dec 16 21:48:27 <chall> actually, sorry, we figured it out
Dec 16 21:48:59 <summatusmentis> dmanderson: when are you implementing enyo-material
Dec 16 21:49:20 <dmanderson> haha :D  good question :)
Dec 16 21:49:22 <dmanderson> LOL chall :)
Dec 16 21:49:49 <summatusmentis> also, how do I use grunt to build enyo?
Dec 16 21:49:54 <summatusmentis> or, rather, to build my app
Dec 16 21:50:31 <summatusmentis> is there a tutorial on that?
Dec 16 21:56:07 <dmanderson> That’s a good question actually, it’s fairly new, and I haven’t even tested out the stuff with Enyo.
Dec 16 21:56:43 <summatusmentis> kk, it'd be nice to be able to move away from the custom scripts
Dec 16 21:57:01 <summatusmentis> and I haven't spent time looking into other options
Dec 16 22:14:29 <summatusmentis> dmanderson: can you tell me what sunstone and garnet are?
Dec 16 22:16:37 <dmanderson> Nope
Dec 16 22:16:38 <dmanderson> wish I could.
Dec 16 22:16:46 <dmanderson> Ignore any comments talking about such.
Dec 16 22:17:18 <summatusmentis> ok, can you tell me if I want to include them in the "mode" for generator-enyo?
Dec 16 22:17:49 <dmanderson> You wont need them for anything - I can say that much.
Dec 16 22:18:05 <summatusmentis> kk
Dec 16 22:18:37 <dmanderson> But it’s a good time to be an Enyo developer :)
Dec 16 22:18:46 <dmanderson> So look forward to learning what they are sometime
Dec 16 22:18:50 <Cage1___> interesting. so what are sunstone and garnet?
Dec 16 22:19:10 <dmanderson> LOL not at liberty to discuss.
Dec 16 22:19:19 <Cage1___> obviously :)
Dec 16 22:19:20 <dmanderson> :X
Dec 16 22:19:26 <Cage1___> but we are at liberty to guess .)
Dec 16 22:19:29 <dmanderson> Feel free to speculate amongst your self :D
Dec 16 22:20:47 <Cage1___> i'm going for something related to watches, though my heart wishes for webos phone and tablet that can run android apps
Dec 16 22:21:01 <summatusmentis> dmanderson: well, tell whoever you should tell that they show up as options for yo enyo -h
Dec 16 22:21:01 <Cage1___> or maybe webos toasters, lol
Dec 16 22:21:39 <Cage1___> (finally)
Dec 16 22:22:27 <summatusmentis> I tried -m sunstone, and it checks out onyx, so it doesn't look like you're actually leaking anything except codenames
Dec 16 22:22:35 <summatusmentis> at least as far as I could tell
Dec 16 22:22:58 <dmanderson> Yeah they are in some of the commits as well.
Dec 16 22:25:23 <summatusmentis> ok, sorry to out it
Dec 16 22:26:26 <dmanderson> haha no worries :)
Dec 16 22:26:40 <dmanderson> Thanks for bringing it to our attention :)
Dec 16 22:27:00 <summatusmentis> Cage1___: if you want speculation, based on what I'm seeing on the github page, sunstone looks like a moonestone-y thing, garnet seems to be different, but has internationalization support
Dec 16 22:27:32 <Cage1___> ah sunstone = moonstone makes sense
Dec 16 22:27:43 <Cage1___> whats the github page?
Dec 16 22:28:01 <summatusmentis> https://github.com/enyojs/generator-enyo/search?utf8=✓&q=garnet&type=Code
Dec 16 22:28:18 <summatusmentis> garnet also has cordova support
Dec 16 22:28:26 <summatusmentis> some sort of phone thing?
Dec 16 22:28:41 <summatusmentis> but no layout
Dec 16 22:29:06 <summatusmentis> could be 3.0
Dec 16 22:29:34 <Cage1___> hmm, unlikely to be 3.0, don't you think?
Dec 16 22:30:03 <Cage1___> maybe sunstone is another UI library...for some other form factor.
Dec 16 22:30:34 <summatusmentis> my guess is sunstone is a UI library
Dec 16 22:30:45 <summatusmentis> garnet doesn't look like a UI library, there's no layout folder
Dec 16 22:31:04 <summatusmentis> so I suppose that could be watch support or some such
Dec 16 22:31:18 <Cage1___> palm os 5 was codenamed garnet :)
Dec 16 22:31:39 <summatusmentis> yes, but there's literally no way enyo starts to support palmos 5 :)
Dec 16 22:31:57 <Cage1___> :)
Dec 16 22:39:32 <GodGinrai> dmanderson: good time to be an enyo dev sounds great.  But here's the other question: Is it a good time to be a WebOS developer?  I haven't seen much from LG regarding WebOS TVs :(
Dec 16 22:40:17 <GodGinrai> Cage1___: maybe sunstone is the watch and garnet is the phone :P
Dec 16 22:42:11 <dmanderson> I wish we had more public information about webOS too, I’m not involved with that bit, so I don’t know much.
Dec 16 22:51:24 <summatusmentis> Palm OS 5 was also the first one to support arm chips
Dec 16 22:51:57 <summatusmentis> which, if you want to read into it, suggests "mobile" of some sort
Dec 16 22:52:15 <summatusmentis> that is, garnet suggests "mobile" of some sort
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