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Feb 05 15:08:39 <Semanticfire_2> so, I'll ask my question again, is there a way to query all defined kinds on runtime ? :)
Feb 05 15:09:12 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire_2: what do you mean by "query" them?
Feb 05 15:10:13 <Semanticfire_2> well I would like to know which kinds are defined
Feb 05 15:10:38 <GodGinrai> So, which kinds are declared using enyo.kind() factories?
Feb 05 15:11:22 <Semanticfire_2> exactly
Feb 05 15:11:33 <GodGinrai> I would think there would be a way
Feb 05 15:11:41 <GodGinrai> I'll do some digging and let you know what I find out
Feb 05 15:15:08 <Semanticfire_2> well I was wondering if there is standard interface before I do the digging around myself :)
Feb 05 15:35:19 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire_2: it looks like they are all placed on their path from window.
Feb 05 15:35:32 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire_2: So there isn't really just a way to get a list of all of them.
Feb 05 15:36:48 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire_2: If you need to be able to tell what kinds are loaded for custom kinds, then as long as you namespace them, you could get a list of those declared kinds. (i.e. you could check the Simpson object for all the Simpson.* kinds)
Feb 05 16:43:47 <Semanticfire_2> okay that sounds like a interesting approach
Feb 05 16:50:34 <dmanderson> Far from finished yet, but there is a tree browser in the Enyo Inspector tools for Chrome
Feb 05 17:21:42 <Semanticfire_2> okay, but no 'api' on it
Feb 05 18:05:30 <dmanderson> Yeah no api, there is a global object that gets populated, but it also gets flushed every construction cycle
Feb 05 18:22:58 <Semanticfire_2> okay
Feb 05 20:14:59 <trex0051> do you guys recommend phonegap or cordova?
Feb 05 20:15:28 <trex0051> (and if you throw in why, you get bonus points)
Feb 05 20:21:34 <GodGinrai> trex0051: cordova *is* cordova
Feb 05 20:21:39 <GodGinrai> whoops
Feb 05 20:21:46 <GodGinrai> phonegap *is* cordova
Feb 05 20:22:02 <trex0051> so phonegap is just adobe's wrapper?
Feb 05 20:22:06 <GodGinrai> Adobe got tired of maintaining phonegap
Feb 05 20:22:09 <GodGinrai> so they gave it to apache
Feb 05 20:22:16 <GodGinrai> and apache renamed it to Cordova
Feb 05 20:22:28 <GodGinrai> cordova is the most recent code
Feb 05 20:22:44 <trex0051> But Adobe is still selling it :)
Feb 05 20:23:01 <GodGinrai> No, adobe has tools that package cordova
Feb 05 20:23:06 <GodGinrai> and they still call it phonegap
Feb 05 20:24:26 <GodGinrai> either way
Feb 05 20:24:30 <GodGinrai> they are the same thing
Feb 05 20:24:33 <trex0051> okay, thank you :)
Feb 05 20:24:34 <GodGinrai> so stick w/ apache's
Feb 05 20:25:27 <GodGinrai> oh wait
Feb 05 20:25:31 <GodGinrai> according to Wikipedia
Feb 05 20:25:51 <GodGinrai> Adobe made a layer on top of Cordova
Feb 05 20:25:55 <trex0051> I was liking that answer :)
Feb 05 20:25:57 <GodGinrai> and repurposed Phonegap's name for it
Feb 05 20:26:02 <trex0051> ohhh yeah, I figured that :)
Feb 05 20:26:13 <GodGinrai> that's why you see them advertising it
Feb 05 20:26:20 <GodGinrai> I'd suggest just using cordova
Feb 05 20:26:27 <trex0051> it's all user friendly and stuff.  does all the work for you
Feb 05 20:26:31 <trex0051> but I don't care about that :)
Feb 05 20:26:34 <GodGinrai> it works, and that's what enyo gives you documentation for :P
Feb 05 20:37:48 <dmanderson> Cordova ftw.
Feb 05 20:38:23 <dmanderson> Although if you enjoy getting closer to the metal, QT has some pretty outstanding support for support for packaged apps now as well
Feb 05 20:45:30 <GodGinrai> I'll care when the EFL gets support for packaged apps :P
Feb 05 20:46:22 <dmanderson> EFL as in?
Feb 05 20:46:23 <dmanderson> :)
Feb 05 20:47:00 <GodGinrai> the Enlightenment Foundation Libraries :)
Feb 05 20:47:11 <dmanderson> Ah ok :) Figured, just wanted to make sure :D
Feb 05 20:47:31 <GodGinrai> lol yea, I don't know of anything else that uses that acronym :P
Feb 05 20:51:14 <dmanderson> you never know these days
Feb 05 20:51:40 <GodGinrai> heh
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