**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 22 02:59:58 2015
May 22 14:16:18 <summatusmentis> guy in my starbucks had an enyo sticker on his computer
May 22 14:17:53 <GodGinrai> NICE
May 22 14:40:37 <Semanticfire> he must be on this channel then :)
May 22 14:41:17 <GodGinrai> maybe it was Garfonso :P
May 22 14:50:57 <summatusmentis> :) Semanticfire I had the same thought
May 22 15:07:40 <summatusmentis> hmph, I might upgrade to 2.5.1 today
May 22 15:11:10 <GodGinrai> Huzzah!
May 22 15:11:30 * GodGinrai throws confetti
May 22 15:25:03 <summatusmentis> the yeoman stuff looks nice
May 22 15:25:18 <summatusmentis> how do I fix the "XYZ is not a valid kind" ?
May 22 15:25:37 <summatusmentis> or "XYZ is not the name of a valid kind" error
May 22 15:25:55 <GodGinrai> define a kind named XYZ?
May 22 15:26:13 <summatusmentis> it is
May 22 15:26:47 <summatusmentis> like, I just copied my stuff in, included it in package.js, and when I try to load it, it breaks
May 22 15:27:07 <GodGinrai> hrm
May 22 15:27:42 <summatusmentis> copied my old source dir, including the parent dir, into the new source dir
May 22 15:27:49 <summatusmentis> (so now i've got source/source)
May 22 15:28:01 <summatusmentis> and included it in package.js for the bootplate, above style
May 22 15:28:26 <GodGinrai> Ok, so it seems like it throws that error
May 22 15:28:41 <GodGinrai> if the constructor isn't a function
May 22 15:28:42 <summatusmentis> do I need to reference something like myapp.Application.XYZ ?
May 22 15:29:02 <GodGinrai> here's the comment related to it:
May 22 15:29:03 <GodGinrai>  // If what we found at this namespace isn't a function, it's definitely not a kind constructor
May 22 15:29:39 <summatusmentis> is the function enyo.kind() no longer real?
May 22 15:29:43 <summatusmentis> that seems unlikely
May 22 15:29:47 <GodGinrai> no, it is
May 22 15:29:55 <GodGinrai> I think I may know what your problem is...
May 22 15:30:08 <GodGinrai> Are you referring to the kind w/o quotes around it?
May 22 15:30:35 <summatusmentis> nope
May 22 15:30:54 <summatusmentis> I refer to some enyo.specific ones without quotes around it
May 22 15:31:28 <summatusmentis> but I usually differentiate the 'native enyo' kinds without quotes, compared to my custom ones with quotes
May 22 15:32:08 <GodGinrai> hrm
May 22 15:32:30 <summatusmentis> oh, never mind
May 22 15:32:43 <summatusmentis> switched editors yesterday, and didn't notice the "not saved" on my package.js >_>
May 22 15:33:13 <GodGinrai> Finally, as a result of these modifications, in the configuration object passed into enyo.kind(), the value of the kind property will need to be quoted (e.g., kind: "enyo.Control"). Previously, the quotation marks were optional.
May 22 15:33:23 <GodGinrai> ^ from the 2.3 release notes
May 22 15:33:35 <summatusmentis> mm, I always do that
May 22 15:33:43 <GodGinrai> even for enyo kinds?
May 22 15:33:51 <GodGinrai> it's required for everything now
May 22 15:33:53 <summatusmentis> I'm never declaring enyo kinds with enyo.kind
May 22 15:34:03 <summatusmentis> they're always a part of components
May 22 15:34:27 <GodGinrai> you don't inherit from any enyo kinds?
May 22 15:34:46 <GodGinrai> enyo.kind({
May 22 15:34:51 <GodGinrai> name: "Example",
May 22 15:34:57 <GodGinrai> kind: enyo.SomeKind
May 22 15:35:00 <GodGinrai> });
May 22 15:44:23 <GodGinrai> I doubt all of your kinds use the default inheritance from enyo.Control
May 22 15:44:40 <summatusmentis> I think a lot of them do
May 22 15:44:45 <summatusmentis> I'll obviously need to check
May 22 15:52:28 <summatusmentis> do... would that cause "enyo.kind: onyx.Slider is already in use by another kind, all kind definitions must have unique names." ?
May 22 15:52:35 <summatusmentis> because if so, you're right
May 22 15:53:57 <GodGinrai> that may be the case.  I haven't seen that error before
May 22 15:55:32 <GodGinrai> nah, it looks like that error is caused by the "name" property having a name that a kind already exists for
May 22 15:55:55 <summatusmentis> that seems... odd
May 22 15:56:23 <GodGinrai> like if you tried to define your own kind, but name it "enyo.Control", which already exists
May 22 15:56:35 <summatusmentis> I'm pretty confident that's not the case
May 22 15:56:50 <GodGinrai> yea, it could be that due to other bugs, something is triggering that one
May 22 15:57:34 <GodGinrai> I would suggest going through all your kinds and making sure that whatever the "kind" property is set to in all the definitions is quoted.
May 22 15:57:48 <GodGinrai> once that's done, we can see what problems still exist
May 22 15:57:59 <summatusmentis> yeah
May 22 15:58:16 <GodGinrai> Be back in a bit, I'm going to pick up some lunch
May 22 16:29:22 <summatusmentis> ok, well, I've done that, the same thing is the problem
May 22 16:32:41 <summatusmentis> now I'm checking for layoutKind
May 22 16:39:41 <summatusmentis> checked layoutKind and arrangerKind, still no dicke
May 22 16:39:44 <summatusmentis> dice*
May 22 16:40:10 <GodGinrai> hrmm
May 22 16:40:32 <GodGinrai> that's a very unfortunate way to mispell dice :P
May 22 16:44:28 <GodGinrai> *misspell
May 22 16:52:23 <GodGinrai> sugardave: any idea what could prevent a constructor from being made for a kind?
May 22 17:04:00 <Garfonso> GodGinrai: I don't have a laptop with enyo stickers. Also I'm currently touring Marocco. :-)
May 22 17:04:21 <GodGinrai> Garfonso: I see
May 22 17:56:56 <summatusmentis> yeshttp://pastebin.com/UVYuZzpy is the output from my web console
May 22 17:57:03 <summatusmentis> http://pastebin.com/UVYuZzpy that is
May 22 17:59:37 <GodGinrai> hrmm
May 22 17:59:49 <GodGinrai> Did you change just the enyo.js? or everything?
May 22 18:00:22 <summatusmentis> no, this is an entirely new bootplate
May 22 18:00:22 <synergybot> Got it!
May 22 18:00:41 <GodGinrai> also, going to be in a sprint planning meeting starting in ~2 minutes, so don't expect responses to be too fast
May 22 18:00:58 <GodGinrai> entirely new bootplate... with your code added in?
May 22 18:01:21 <summatusmentis> entirely new bootplate, with my source dir copied in, some libraries added, and my assets copied in
May 22 18:01:34 <GodGinrai> k
May 22 18:07:14 <summatusmentis> on the plus side, during debugging, I'm doing code clean-up which absolutely needed to be done
May 22 18:07:53 <Semanticfire_2> re
May 22 18:08:21 <GodGinrai> lol
May 22 18:08:28 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire_2: eh?
May 22 18:09:50 <GodGinrai> summatusmentis: where did you get your bootplate?
May 22 18:17:27 <summatusmentis> GodGinrai: through yeoman
May 22 18:17:38 <GodGinrai> hrmmmm
May 22 18:18:05 <GodGinrai> I haven't used the yeoman build, so I have no idea if it has problems
May 22 18:18:14 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire_2: have you used the yeoman build?
May 22 18:22:24 <Semanticfire_2> not really
May 22 18:22:35 <Semanticfire_2> I've tried, but I use my own grunt skeleton
May 22 18:22:52 <Semanticfire_2> although I want to revisit the yeoman stuff
May 22 18:25:08 <summatusmentis> it doesn't seem to really have problems, it's a 'blessed' way
May 22 18:25:56 <DougReeder_> The presentation at CBUSJS Wednesday was on replacing Grunt and Gulp with NPM. :-)
May 22 18:26:00 <Semanticfire_2> The issue I had with it was that I couldn't manage to do VCS with it , without putting the full enyo stack in my VCS system
May 22 18:28:05 <summatusmentis> that's probably what I'll end up doing, which, like, fine
May 22 18:31:15 <Semanticfire_2> what ?
May 22 18:32:30 <summatusmentis> just that I'll end up pulling the full enyo stack into git
May 22 18:32:33 <summatusmentis> rather than submoduling
May 22 18:33:01 <Semanticfire_2> that sucks :)
May 22 18:33:20 <Semanticfire_2> my grunt skeleton allows for minimalistic approach
May 22 18:33:28 <Semanticfire_2> where you don't do submoduling
May 22 18:33:52 <Semanticfire_2> just download the source, init your environment and code / test / build away
May 22 18:34:00 <Semanticfire_2> https://github.com/semanticfire/enyo-grunt-skeleton
May 22 18:42:26 <summatusmentis> meh, I like the yeoman cordova integration
May 22 18:46:00 <Semanticfire> yup, thats what I thought would be nice as well
May 22 18:46:11 <Semanticfire> but so far I do not plan on putting enyo in my repos
May 22 18:48:43 <summatusmentis> mm, well
May 22 18:48:51 <summatusmentis> maybe I'll change later, but for now, I want this to work
May 22 18:49:52 <summatusmentis> welp, inadvertantly removed the whole bootplate dir
May 22 18:49:57 <summatusmentis> maybe I'll try this again another time
May 22 19:44:48 <GodGinrai> summatusmentis: let me know if you get more time to look into this.  I'd like you to try with a couple of different versions of enyo so we can see if we can track the problem down
May 22 19:47:11 <summatusmentis> maybe I'll play with that this evening
May 22 19:53:22 <GodGinrai> alright, cool
May 22 19:53:50 <GodGinrai> I'll be having people over, but I'll take a look at the channel every once in a while to see if you need any help
May 22 20:59:49 <summatusmentis> so, I decided to wipe it, and start over, and now there's no errors
May 22 21:00:09 <summatusmentis> its not loading, working the way I'm expcting it to, but it's at least not erroring out
May 22 21:01:46 <summatusmentis> this seems like it might be a defer issue
May 22 21:46:33 <summatusmentis> fixed, I'm not sure what happened, but the MVC thing was such that the stuff that used to be in my App.js needed to be in views/views.js
May 22 21:49:51 <GodGinrai> I see
May 22 21:54:02 <summatusmentis> so, back up and running, now I need to figure out how to get my code back into git without breaking everythign
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