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Jun 09 14:45:28 <GodGinrai> Hey, does anyone here have any experience using the Intl.js polyfill?
Jun 09 17:47:50 <Zectbumo> Well, I ran into a problem with scrolling that I can't seem to get out of. http://jsfiddle.net/ac8cca2u/
Jun 09 17:48:33 <Zectbumo> I'm trying to scroll using dragging (finger scrolling) but it won't scroll. If you uncomment the line at the bottom. it works. weird.
Jun 09 17:50:31 <Zectbumo> What makes body work and div not work?
Jun 09 17:57:11 <GodGinrai> Zectbumo: That *is* weird
Jun 09 17:57:23 <GodGinrai> I'm not sure what is causing that.
Jun 09 17:57:23 <Zectbumo> you see what I mean too right?
Jun 09 17:57:32 <GodGinrai> you might want to try stepping through the code
Jun 09 17:57:45 <GodGinrai> set some breakpoints in the TouchScrollStrategy kind
Jun 09 18:30:23 <GodGinrai> Zectbumo: Yes, I see the problem you are describing
Jun 09 18:30:40 <GodGinrai> chall: any idea what could be causing that problem that Zectbumo is seeing?
Jun 09 18:44:25 <chall> GodGinrai, I haven't really used the touch scrolling at all, but I'll give it a look.
Jun 09 19:10:17 <chall> GodGinrai, Zectbumo, I think I found the problem
Jun 09 19:10:25 <Zectbumo> oh?
Jun 09 19:10:33 <chall> in the fiddle, the body tag has 0 height by default
Jun 09 19:10:36 <chall> that's why it doesn't work
Jun 09 19:11:04 <Zectbumo> the body tag is the one that is working though
Jun 09 19:11:14 <Zectbumo> it's the div that doesn't work
Jun 09 19:11:19 <chall> yes, when you switch it to the body tag, it has its height set properly
Jun 09 19:12:05 <chall> https://jsfiddle.net/ac8cca2u/1/
Jun 09 19:13:44 <Zectbumo> interesting. the body and the html have to both be set. leaving out one will go back to one not working
Jun 09 19:15:18 <GodGinrai> a height problem was my first instinct.  That's always been the problem whenever I had Scroller problems
Jun 09 19:16:34 <Zectbumo> It was mine as well, but I never thought to mess with the HTML tag
Jun 09 19:17:42 <Zectbumo> this just doesn't make sense to me. styling html tag that is. besides scrolling shouldn't be that finicky
Jun 09 19:17:45 * Semanticfire_2 is looking for a way to dynamically create component
Jun 09 19:18:06 <chall> that doesn't seem like it'd be too difficult
Jun 09 19:18:11 <Semanticfire_2> or more specific, ad a new kind to components
Jun 09 19:18:14 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire: createComponent()
Jun 09 19:18:37 <Semanticfire_2> and how to add it to the components attribute ?
Jun 09 19:18:57 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire: lets say you have a kind like this:
Jun 09 19:19:20 <GodGinrai> enyo.kind({ name: "Test", kind: "enyo.Control"
Jun 09 19:19:24 <GodGinrai> components: [
Jun 09 19:19:25 <chall> Semanticfire_2, use children instead of components
Jun 09 19:19:34 <GodGinrai> { name: "hello" }
Jun 09 19:19:35 <GodGinrai> ]
Jun 09 19:19:39 <chall> I think it's children...
Jun 09 19:19:40 <GodGinrai> });
Jun 09 19:19:59 <GodGinrai> then you can use this.$.hello.createComponent to add it as a component of "hello"
Jun 09 19:20:11 <Semanticfire_2> okay
Jun 09 19:20:30 <Semanticfire_2> and create component takes the kind notation ?
Jun 09 19:20:41 <Zectbumo> http://enyojs.com/docs/latest/index.html#/kind/enyo.Component:createComponent
Jun 09 19:21:13 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire: takes the same notation you would use in a components block
Jun 09 19:22:04 <Semanticfire_2> let try :)
Jun 09 19:30:25 <jupach1> as
Jun 09 19:34:31 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire: remember to call render() on the component that you run createComponent from so that they show up
Jun 09 19:37:29 <Semanticfire_2> okay, that works :)
Jun 09 19:37:49 <Semanticfire_2> is there a way I can 'clone' a kind from itself onto its parrent ?
Jun 09 19:38:48 <Semanticfire_2> e.g. enyo.kind({name:'foo', components: [{name: 'bar'}]});
Jun 09 19:38:52 <GodGinrai> what do you mean?
Jun 09 19:39:05 <Semanticfire_2> from bar I want to create a clone of bar into foo
Jun 09 19:39:12 <Semanticfire_2> foo.components
Jun 09 19:40:00 <GodGinrai> so... you want foo [ {bar } ] to become foo [ { bar }, { bar } ]?
Jun 09 19:41:15 <Semanticfire_2> yup, where I know that won'T work because of the double names
Jun 09 19:41:32 <Semanticfire_2> e.g. enyo.kind({name:'foo', components: [{kind: 'bar'}]});
Jun 09 19:41:36 <Semanticfire_2> was a better example :)
Jun 09 19:42:07 <GodGinrai> not really.  Your example makes no sense to me.  It's just a kind with a component in it
Jun 09 19:45:05 <GodGinrai> This seems like an xyproblem
Jun 09 19:45:22 <GodGinrai> Semanticfire_2: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/XyProblem
Jun 09 19:48:34 <Semanticfire_2> I want the kind bar to be able to create a copy of itself in foo
Jun 09 19:48:40 <Semanticfire_2> this is not a XY problem
Jun 09 19:49:00 <Semanticfire_2> maybe lazy
Jun 09 19:51:49 <GodGinrai> So you want foo to have bar as a child, and then when something happens in bar, for foo to make a second bar as a second child?
Jun 09 19:52:18 <GodGinrai> What exactly does this enable for you?
Jun 09 19:55:56 <Semanticfire_2> cardinallity of the element bar
Jun 09 19:58:07 <GodGinrai> ?
Jun 09 20:00:27 <Semanticfire_2> I use enyo to parse and display RDF / linked data, where the cardinality of graph nodes is not defined
Jun 09 20:00:56 <Semanticfire_2> which means that property foo can have 0-n instances of objects bar
Jun 09 20:01:15 <GodGinrai> wouldn't a repeater be simpler for that purpose?
Jun 09 20:01:16 <Semanticfire_2> I can deal with that in 2 ways, either in bar or in foo, just investigating both
Jun 09 20:01:40 <GodGinrai> btw, rule of encapsulation: parent handles children, not the other way around
Jun 09 20:01:43 <Semanticfire_2> yes / no , its a bit overkill when cardinality [0,1]
Jun 09 20:01:48 <Semanticfire_2> I know
Jun 09 20:02:25 <GodGinrai> anyway, I g2g
Jun 09 20:02:27 <GodGinrai> leaving work
Jun 09 20:08:46 <Zectbumo> Semanticfire_2: http://jsfiddle.net/613vthzh/
Jun 09 20:09:56 <Semanticfire_2> nice :)
Jun 09 20:11:05 <Semanticfire_2> but it creates a instance of the same kind, not a copy
Jun 09 20:12:35 <Zectbumo> you would have to copy what you need I suppose. I tried this and it gets oop errors http://jsfiddle.net/613vthzh/2/
Jun 09 20:12:41 <Zectbumo> it still works though :P
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