**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 14 02:59:57 2008 Nov 14 03:00:05 well. When I tried to build SYLVESTER, SDK asked me FON_CLIENT_ID and DEVELOPER_ID, where the definition should I change? I just grep the SDK but couldn't find where the #define is? Nov 14 03:01:45 macpaul: I got the same thing. Comment out those lines and the build will proceed until you come up against the unaccessible luci repository. Nov 14 03:02:17 that one's unsolvable until blogic convinces the people running that repository to make it public accessible. Nov 14 03:02:29 rwhitby: okay, thanks. ;) Nov 14 03:02:37 at the moment, beta effectively has closed source in it :-) Nov 14 03:02:57 (unintentionally, of course) Nov 14 07:46:38 good morning Nov 14 07:49:06 Is there a trac system setup yet? Nov 14 07:49:37 i dont know but i think its not Nov 14 07:50:06 * dwb surprised... since how would be the time to track bugs Nov 14 07:50:15 s/how/now/ Nov 14 08:11:23 dw it will be up the next 2-3 days Nov 14 08:11:28 no idea why it is taking this long Nov 14 08:11:35 its a job of 2-3 hours imho :) Nov 14 09:27:23 Fonera 2.0 arrived yesterday..! Flashed it to Luci (webif) and after 27 minutes it's up and running. Nov 14 09:29:05 Need a new USB2.0 hub. webcam 1, webcam 2, 2,5" hd and laserprinter were not recognized directly on the Fonero. Only my USB stick was recognized. Nov 14 09:30:37 Anyone who knows if this one http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=357387 or this one http://www.trust.com/products/product_detail.aspx?item=15140 do work? Especially if the Fonero2.0 is powered via these hubs, resulting in less power adapter. Nov 14 09:42:33 rwhitby: I think blogic included the luci as a tarball Nov 14 09:42:38 let me check Nov 14 09:44:01 voorstad: don't use these units that power the fonera with USB Nov 14 09:44:05 this is a 'malfunction' Nov 14 09:44:11 it could break your fonera Nov 14 09:56:48 @iurgi. That's a pitty. Used to be a "feature" for the Slug. Nov 14 10:17:34 yes, hubs that power anything through the port used for the host are actually lacking some blocking electronic component to prevent to isolate current Nov 14 10:18:53 i have this one http://trust.com/products/product_detail.aspx?item=14524 that does that Nov 14 10:18:56 no good stuff Nov 14 10:19:42 I don't trust this brand Nov 14 10:19:47 :X Nov 14 10:20:09 we have here also a dlink one that doesn't leak any current to la fonera Nov 14 10:20:09 lol Nov 14 10:20:44 and beware of the 7 ports: they are actually TWO 4-ports usb hubs linked together in the inside Nov 14 10:21:21 so 7 = 4 + (4 - 1) [ one being used to join the two] they are detected as such by the kernel, as two different 4 port hubs Nov 14 10:21:46 and even worse, the power adaptor has only 2 A Nov 14 10:22:04 2 A for 7 ports? how can it provide 500mA to each one? Nov 14 10:22:21 so I should stick to a 4 port? Nov 14 10:23:45 a good 4 port hub with a 2.5 A adaptor Nov 14 10:23:51 probably assuming that not every device needs 500mA all the time? Nov 14 10:24:18 probably assuming that noone will plug seven things on it Nov 14 10:24:25 haha Nov 14 10:24:30 specially considering the close the ports are to each other Nov 14 10:24:39 i haven tested it yet with seven things for that Nov 14 10:24:50 two pendrives don't fit together Nov 14 10:25:01 bad design from the very beginning Nov 14 10:25:09 the Trust one has 2 ports with more space Nov 14 10:25:37 this one is just great: http://www.dlink.com/products/?model=DUB-H4 Nov 14 10:25:51 we have one here and no current backwards Nov 14 10:26:07 or it's two-hubs-in-one part Nov 14 10:26:17 http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=149 Nov 14 10:26:38 see?, the ports are stacked vertically, so you can plug most things that bulge to the sides Nov 14 10:30:15 i don't know if this seven port ac adaptor has 4 A, as it should, in the specs it doesn't appear Nov 14 10:30:24 but the 4 port one has 2.5 A Nov 14 10:30:37 yep. But I also have enough USB extension cables, so that's not really the issue. Nov 14 10:32:16 rwhitby: -rw-r--r-- blogic/blogic 623850 2008-11-10 21:22 fonera2.0-beta2-sylvester.GPL/openwrt/dl/luci-0.9+svn268.tar.gz Nov 14 10:32:35 imho, this tarball contains all you need from the luci repo: no closed source ;) Nov 14 10:32:47 only a bad makefile Nov 14 10:32:50 :D Nov 14 10:36:05 rwhitby: we will be releasing a new GPL soon Nov 14 10:52:59 @pablo_bz. 7 port Belkin (http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=357387) has 3,8A Nov 14 11:01:43 3.5 for the seven ports, and .2 for your extension cables dissipating :) I think that is way better stuff than the untrustable trust Nov 14 11:03:38 but don't know if the Belkin leaks to the Fonera... :-) Nov 14 11:04:01 we have one here (other model, same brand) that does not Nov 14 11:04:12 you could never know... Nov 14 13:13:03 Any thoughts why my Brother HL-2030 (GDI) printer is not being recognized? It works under Linux with HL-2060 drivers. Nov 14 13:13:40 hmm Nov 14 13:13:50 its not supporting the generic printer class Nov 14 13:24:15 http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Brother-HL-2030 Nov 14 13:31:55 pablo_bz: lo Nov 14 13:36:40 ich war als kind schon nen süßer fratz :D Nov 14 13:36:50 blah wrong window Nov 14 13:37:03 ? Nov 14 13:37:17 kazwo: erm... dont wanna know what goes on in the right windows Nov 14 13:37:19 kazwo: erm... dont wanna know what goes on in the right window Nov 14 13:41:13 talking about (my) child pictures and negatives scanning Nov 14 13:42:02 of course Nov 14 13:42:04 :) Nov 14 13:49:33 @blogic is not supporting the generic printer class something for openwrt/fon or for Brother? Nov 14 13:50:48 Brother Nov 14 13:50:54 your printer wont work Nov 14 13:51:40 :-( Nov 14 13:54:08 I'll put it in the wiki then..... This will apply for a lot printers I guess. No way to get it working? Nov 14 14:00:40 this applies to 10% Nov 14 14:16:58 blogic: sorry to continue, but I am trying to understand. My Brother HL-2030 printer is explicitely mentioned in the openwrt wiki as an example... http://wiki.openwrt.org/OpenWrtDocs/Kamikaze/Printers#head-a1b831e16ccabdeb0da09a212cab357e0b817d1b Nov 14 14:47:43 If the printer won't work, and the webcams won't work, I won't need a 7 port USB hub at all... haha. And if the hd don't work, I won' nee a hub at all :-/ Nov 14 15:52:12 voorstand, your hd will mostly work Nov 14 15:53:10 mostly possibly likeabely work Nov 14 18:06:21 hi people Nov 14 18:07:46 got a first installation problem and support@fon.com do not wanna help, someone here can helpme, please ? Nov 14 18:08:34 power LED is still orange non-blinking since I first plugged the La Fonera 2.0 beta (yesterday) Nov 14 18:09:27 I tried dhcp / static IP / everything but the power LED is still orange non-blinking Nov 14 18:09:36 don't know what I can do :( Nov 14 18:13:07 hmm Nov 14 18:13:26 is there a wireless network called FON_ ? Nov 14 18:13:28 is there a wireless network called FON_* ? Nov 14 18:13:40 nop anly myplace is ok Nov 14 18:13:52 i don't think my la fonera see internet Nov 14 18:14:08 myplace is there ? Nov 14 18:14:14 then the fon is operational Nov 14 18:14:31 and you used the wan port ? Nov 14 18:14:34 or the lanport ? Nov 14 18:14:53 but what is the orange power led non-blinking ? why it is not green ? Nov 14 18:15:13 lan or wan port ? Nov 14 18:15:15 i use internet (WAN) white port to connect my la fonera to my router Nov 14 18:15:21 ok Nov 14 18:15:30 well, it should work Nov 14 18:15:41 does the led on the routers ethernet port light ? Nov 14 18:15:46 is there any traffic ? Nov 14 18:16:08 internet led is green blinking / i also have the USD LED green non-blinking Nov 14 18:16:26 wireless led is green blinking too Nov 14 18:16:58 router's LED is green too Nov 14 18:17:13 hmm Nov 14 18:17:26 on the lan port you can get a dhcp address ? Nov 14 18:18:00 otherwise talk to Inouk Nov 14 18:18:06 he is our community man Nov 14 18:18:32 have you tried the usual stuff ? Nov 14 18:18:34 yep dhcp is ok IP=192.168.0.10 / Gateway=192.168.0.254 / MAsk=255.255.255.0 / DNS=my ISP DNS Nov 14 18:18:36 other ethernet cable etc Nov 14 18:18:42 ? Nov 14 18:18:47 DNS=my ISP DNS <-- ? Nov 14 18:18:53 in that case it has wan Nov 14 18:19:08 unless it is in static Nov 14 18:19:29 in dhcp it works only with older firmware Nov 14 18:19:36 the one before sylvester Nov 14 18:20:05 ? Nov 14 18:20:22 have oyu tried to reflash it ? Nov 14 18:20:26 what router is it ? Nov 14 18:20:36 router is a freebox Nov 14 18:20:40 ok Nov 14 18:21:03 you sent a mail on the mailing list right ? Nov 14 18:21:11 and it worked against a different freebox right ? Nov 14 18:21:24 otherwise i will get a freebox and see why they do not work Nov 14 18:21:32 skotea, which model of freebox? Nov 14 18:21:32 its only the freebox that has these problems Nov 14 18:21:37 hi Inouk Nov 14 18:21:39 freebox V5 Nov 14 18:21:43 hi Inouk Nov 14 18:22:11 i did not send a message to the mailing list (only support@fon.com) Nov 14 18:22:15 ok Nov 14 18:22:18 same :) Nov 14 18:23:09 information given by sylvester firmware seems wrong between gateway and mask Nov 14 18:23:28 to i tried the firmware before sylvester Nov 14 18:23:37 and eveything seems good in dhcp Nov 14 18:23:44 but still this orange power led Nov 14 18:23:53 and no fon_something SSID Nov 14 18:24:03 can you ping the freebox Nov 14 18:24:04 ? Nov 14 18:24:25 from where ? my pc ? Nov 14 18:24:39 from the fonera Nov 14 18:25:08 using telnet or something ? Nov 14 18:26:13 the fonera is a little linux machine Nov 14 18:26:21 you can connect to it thru ssh Nov 14 18:26:37 ok i know that reading the wiki Nov 14 18:27:01 i'm trying Nov 14 18:27:44 connected to myplace or wanport Nov 14 18:28:52 ok Nov 14 18:28:56 192.168.10.1 ? Nov 14 18:29:03 through putty Nov 14 18:29:08 yes Nov 14 18:29:28 what is your OS? Nov 14 18:30:30 windows xp Nov 14 18:31:31 ha OK then yes you have to use putty Nov 14 18:31:51 ok ping 192.168.0.254 (my gateway) response nothing Nov 14 18:32:12 ifconfig? Nov 14 18:32:31 -------- Fonera 2.0 Firmware (v2.1.0.1) ----------- Nov 14 18:32:32 * Based on OpenWrt - http://openwrt.org Nov 14 18:32:32 * Powered by FON - http://www.fon.com Nov 14 18:32:32 ---------------------------------------------------- Nov 14 18:32:32 root@Fonera:~# ping 192.168.0.254 Nov 14 18:32:32 PING 192.168.0.254 (192.168.0.254): 56 data bytes Nov 14 18:32:52 ctrl C to stop ping Nov 14 18:33:03 ok thanks Nov 14 18:33:19 the ifconfig you want the whole stuff Nov 14 18:33:27 pastebin.ca Nov 14 18:35:37 oops sorry Nov 14 18:35:56 paste it on pastebin.ca Nov 14 18:36:10 skotea, that's OK ;) Nov 14 18:36:39 everey one has to do this mistake once Nov 14 18:36:44 i'm a newbie to irc too (i'm too old for this) Nov 14 18:38:28 does it help ? Nov 14 18:39:47 Ok anyway I have to leave the office now Nov 14 18:39:58 please post on the mailinglist Nov 14 18:39:59 ok thanks for your help Nov 14 18:40:06 explaining the problem Nov 14 18:40:07 ok thanks again Nov 14 18:40:14 skotea: during the week is a better time than on friday night :) Nov 14 18:40:34 give the result of ifconfig though Nov 14 18:40:37 ;) Nov 14 18:40:54 ok Nov 14 18:41:10 good WE Nov 14 18:44:15 hi Nov 14 18:44:30 i have also a problem Nov 14 18:44:54 ok Nov 14 18:44:56 tell us Nov 14 18:45:09 i return to my home and i see the light of power orange Nov 14 18:45:18 of my fonera Nov 14 18:47:25 what the orange led mean to the power led? Nov 14 18:47:50 not connected to fon Nov 14 18:47:59 it has no inet uplink Nov 14 18:48:21 but i have internet Nov 14 18:49:04 i ll be back my parent want that i eat with them Nov 14 18:49:12 sry Nov 14 19:11:55 I can't ping wan from my wlan...it is a known issue? Nov 14 19:15:58 monossido: yes Nov 14 19:16:34 ok...no workaround? Nov 14 19:17:23 no Nov 14 19:17:59 mmm bad news...next firmware's release? :) Nov 14 19:20:19 hi all Nov 14 19:21:02 blogic: Have you work on the fw ? Nov 14 19:21:22 not yet Nov 14 19:21:34 monossido: was just asking about it Nov 14 19:21:54 lol Nov 14 19:22:10 I've tried to forward port 20 (ftp data) Nov 14 19:22:23 but it isn't working Nov 14 19:22:50 Have a rule based on what I have on a debian if it's interesting for you ? Nov 14 19:23:02 no Nov 14 19:28:55 ok Nov 14 19:29:02 Another thing Nov 14 19:29:47 when a make a wput with a wget (dl and upload at the same time i'm only on 128 ko/s Nov 14 19:30:31 and if I launch many command every command is 128ko/s Nov 14 19:30:43 but cumulated is more Nov 14 19:31:28 on the fon ? Nov 14 19:34:45 email about my orange LED non-blinking sent to development@fonosfera.org / TIA people Nov 14 19:38:56 2that is the mailing list Nov 14 19:40:05 slotea i have the same issue!! Nov 14 19:40:18 orange led no-blinking to power led Nov 14 19:40:40 don't know but that is what is it written here : http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/La_Fonera_2.0 Nov 14 19:40:52 it is after 24 hours of use that i have notified Nov 14 19:41:08 Developers Community / A development mailing list is available, so independent developers can get in touch with FON ones as well as with each other. Subscribe here Nov 14 19:41:28 barret2222 does the la fonera 2.0 work before ? Nov 14 19:42:02 yes! Nov 14 19:42:14 hum mine never works Nov 14 19:42:33 lol Nov 14 19:42:50 I got it 2 days ago and it is my first la fonera Nov 14 19:42:52 can i downgrade? Nov 14 19:43:06 yes you can i did using redboot Nov 14 19:43:17 barret2222 Nov 14 19:43:22 reboot ? Nov 14 19:43:23 on the web interface? Nov 14 19:43:31 all you need is here : http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/La_Fonera_2.0 Nov 14 19:43:33 does it get dhcp ? Nov 14 19:43:43 can you ping ? Nov 14 19:44:00 i have reboot and it works now Nov 14 19:44:04 @blogic yes redboot i use it to downgrade my la fonera 2.0 Nov 14 19:44:19 barret2222: ok Nov 14 19:44:30 it is just a freeze i believe Nov 14 19:44:39 i have install a lot of package Nov 14 19:44:41 also Nov 14 19:45:09 O_o Nov 14 19:45:25 @blogic are you a member of the mailing list (do you receive it ?) Nov 14 19:45:35 yes Nov 14 19:46:07 blogic: yes Nov 14 19:46:34 where can i find the old firmware? Nov 14 19:46:59 sry -> wiki Nov 14 19:52:56 blogic: is there a qos for the upload ? Nov 14 19:53:17 yes Nov 14 19:53:20 ok Nov 14 19:53:24 on the fon there is Nov 14 19:53:41 even if the fonera is the uploader (not a client) ? Nov 14 19:53:53 no i was lying in Nov 14 19:53:57 of course Nov 14 19:55:13 k Nov 14 19:55:19 system failed to identify upload Nov 14 19:55:38 i try to downgrade with the web interface Nov 14 19:56:25 barret2222 pas posible via webinterface Nov 14 19:56:33 impossible sorry Nov 14 19:56:45 ouais je suis francais aussi lol Nov 14 19:56:52 teigneux aussi Nov 14 19:57:06 ok Nov 14 19:57:58 Vive la france ;) Nov 14 19:58:05 what problems do you have? Nov 14 19:59:22 i just wanna downgrade Nov 14 19:59:31 mtd Nov 14 19:59:38 on bash Nov 14 19:59:57 Someone agree with me ? Nov 14 20:00:07 cause I'm not sure of my anwser Nov 14 20:00:43 i downgrade using redboot, all info are here : http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/La_Fonera_2.0 Nov 14 20:01:16 He has an orange led Nov 14 20:01:17 kazwo i got a power LED orange not blinking problem, can you help ? Nov 14 20:02:50 TeigneuX: i also think mtd or redboot Nov 14 20:03:03 skotea: after downgrading or before? Nov 14 20:03:50 after and before : since the first time i plugged the la fonera the power led was and still is orange Nov 14 20:04:12 do you have a serial cable? Nov 14 20:04:34 nop Nov 14 20:05:08 but you can access redboot? Nov 14 20:05:18 i can do something more if i buy one ? nevermind i do not have a RS32 port on my pc Nov 14 20:05:27 yes redboot through myplace Nov 14 20:05:52 as described here http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/La_Fonera_2.0 Nov 14 20:07:45 myplace / web interface / ssh / telnet works Nov 14 20:08:12 but no fon_ SSID and still this orange power led Nov 14 20:08:32 the serial port shows whats happens on the fon router. where it stops etc.. Nov 14 20:08:53 then you dont need a serial cable Nov 14 20:08:54 hmm Nov 14 20:10:00 how do you establish you internet connection? Nov 14 20:10:08 skotea: ask on francofon somebody who have one Nov 14 20:10:55 i post a message describing my problem on the mailing list here : development@fonosfera.org Nov 14 20:11:04 TeigneuX good idea i will do this Nov 14 20:11:21 kazwo is us a router called freebox Nov 14 20:12:17 but i can't ping my gateway 192.168.0.254 from a ssh connection on 192.168.10.1 (la fonera) Nov 14 20:13:35 is the internet led on the fon router green? Nov 14 20:13:52 kazwo yes green blinking Nov 14 20:16:03 can you see the see the fonera ip in the freebox webinterface? Nov 14 20:16:41 no because the freebox interface do no display such information Nov 14 20:16:48 do no = do not Nov 14 20:18:12 have you tried giving the fonera a static ip? Nov 14 20:19:26 yep Nov 14 20:19:38 same with dhcp or static ip Nov 14 20:20:06 hmmm then i dont know :( Nov 14 20:21:09 kazwo thank you anyway Nov 14 20:21:28 kazwo are you a member of the developper mailing list ? Nov 14 20:21:50 yes, but i only the the summary at the end of the day Nov 14 20:22:27 ok Nov 14 20:22:55 http://fonosfera.org/pipermail/development/2008-November/000088.html Nov 14 20:26:07 kazwo yes so you have all the info:p Nov 14 20:26:18 :) Nov 14 20:37:12 thanks again have a good night **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 15 02:59:57 2008