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Nov 20 10:00:58 <Lazybone> moin
Nov 20 12:01:58 <rwhitby> blogic: regarding bluetooth:
Nov 20 12:01:59 <rwhitby> Nov 20 12:01:09 Fonera daemon.info hcid[4813]: Bluetooth HCI daemon
Nov 20 12:01:59 <rwhitby> Nov 20 12:01:09 Fonera daemon.err hcid[4813]: Unable to get on D-Bus
Nov 20 12:01:59 <rwhitby> Nov 20 12:01:09 Fonera daemon.info dund[4817]: Bluetooth DUN daemon version 3.36
Nov 20 12:01:59 <rwhitby> Nov 20 12:01:09 Fonera daemon.err dund[4817]: Failed to connect to the local SDP server. No such file or directory(2)
Nov 20 12:02:20 <rwhitby> bluez-utils 3 is a real pain.  I usually use v2 cause it doesn't have all the dbus bloat in it.
Nov 20 12:03:37 <blogic> well ?
Nov 20 12:03:44 <blogic> why do you use 3 ?
Nov 20 12:03:54 <blogic> and can you use strace to find the file it complains about ?
Nov 20 12:06:05 <rwhitby> ok, I've fixed the dbus problem
Nov 20 12:06:16 <blogic> cool
Nov 20 12:06:18 <blogic> :)
Nov 20 12:06:29 <blogic> i bought a BT dongle last week
Nov 20 12:06:34 <rwhitby> openwrt has 3 packaged - dunno if anyone has ever tested it, cause it won't work as-is out of the box
Nov 20 12:06:34 <rwhitby> need a bluetooth.conf in /etc/dbus-1/system.d/
Nov 20 12:06:44 <blogic> can oyu enlighten me ? what does it actually do, when ready :)
Nov 20 12:06:53 <blogic> hmm
Nov 20 12:07:00 <blogic> maybe we shoul dpackage dbus2
Nov 20 12:07:07 <blogic>  bluez-utils 2 i mean
Nov 20 12:07:14 <blogic> so we have no dbus dependency
Nov 20 12:07:17 <rwhitby> a copy of /etc/dbus-1/system.d/bluetooth.conf from Debian on my QNAP TS408 seems to work
Nov 20 12:07:32 <blogic> hehe
Nov 20 12:07:34 <rwhitby> optware has bluez2-libs and bluez2-utils packaged
Nov 20 12:07:40 <blogic> ok
Nov 20 12:07:47 <blogic> i will look into it later
Nov 20 12:07:54 <blogic> and wrap up some packages
Nov 20 12:08:46 <rwhitby> I need to find who in openwrt is using bluez-utils and negotiate some changes in hcid.conf at least
Nov 20 12:10:06 <rwhitby> ok, the treo can at least see the bt dongle on the fon2 now
Nov 20 12:10:32 <rwhitby> pairing problems - let's see ...
Nov 20 12:10:50 <blogic> hehe
Nov 20 12:11:43 <rwhitby> ok, treo is paired with fon2
Nov 20 12:11:43 <rwhitby> now to get dund and ppp working
Nov 20 12:12:19 <blogic> and this will work for most devices ? or just the treo ?
Nov 20 12:12:32 <blogic> nice work btw
Nov 20 12:12:34 <blogic> :)
Nov 20 12:13:32 <rwhitby> ok, I have an IP address through BT
Nov 20 12:13:34 <iurgi> cool!
Nov 20 12:13:34 <iurgi> XD
Nov 20 12:14:20 <blogic> hehe
Nov 20 12:14:54 <rwhitby> ppp0      Link encap:Point-to-Point Protocol
Nov 20 12:14:54 <rwhitby>           inet addr:192.168.10.1  P-t-P:192.168.10.2  Mask:255.255.255.255
Nov 20 12:15:12 <blogic> nice work
Nov 20 12:15:49 <rwhitby> I can ping the Treo from the fonera
Nov 20 12:16:03 <rwhitby> looks like firewall is not letting the treo get out to the internet
Nov 20 12:17:14 <blogic> yeah
Nov 20 12:17:18 <blogic> you need a zone for it
Nov 20 12:17:38 <blogic> and then make sure to start the BT pppd with "unit 1" so it gets ppp1
Nov 20 12:17:50 <blogic> and then you can hook the ppp1 into its own zone
Nov 20 12:18:15 <rwhitby> let's see if pand works, since that's what most recent devices will use
Nov 20 12:20:20 <rwhitby> ok, got ppp1
Nov 20 12:20:20 <rwhitby> what do I need to do for the zone?
Nov 20 12:20:30 <rwhitby> pand runs - don't have anything here to test it
Nov 20 12:20:37 <rwhitby> it should come up as bnep0 when something connects
Nov 20 12:20:51 <blogic> ok
Nov 20 12:20:59 <blogic> vi /etc/config/network
Nov 20 12:21:33 <blogic> no, wait
Nov 20 12:21:46 <blogic> crap i have no devie at hand ;(
Nov 20 12:21:49 * blogic checks src
Nov 20 12:22:04 <rwhitby> got it, firewall, zone, forwarding
Nov 20 12:22:40 <blogic> config 'interface' 'hotspot' option 'ifname' 'tun0' option 'proto' 'none'
Nov 20 12:22:47 <rwhitby> BTW, ppp1 does proxyarp on the lan
Nov 20 12:23:09 <blogic> and in /etc/config/network copy the hotspot section to bluetooth and add the ppp1
Nov 20 12:23:17 <blogic> then you can reference bluetooth as a zone
Nov 20 12:23:26 <blogic> and work with it in /etc/config/firewall
Nov 20 12:23:33 <rwhitby> done
Nov 20 12:23:33 <blogic> in  /etc/config/firewall
Nov 20 12:23:37 <blogic>  handle it like the lan zone
Nov 20 12:23:39 <blogic> cool
Nov 20 12:27:40 <rwhitby> downloading email to Treo650 over bluetooth via the Fon2
Nov 20 12:28:37 <rwhitby> ok, now I need svn access to make the source changes.
Nov 20 12:32:34 <rwhitby> so, then fon2 now has enough features to replace a wl530g and an nslu2 in my house
Nov 20 12:34:21 <rwhitby> blogic: looks like bluez3 is fine - just need that missing dbus config file and some hcid.conf changes
Nov 20 12:34:29 <rwhitby> I also compiled out iconv and intl, but can probably put them back now
Nov 20 12:37:09 <blogic> ok
Nov 20 12:42:31 <blogic> rwhitby: you will get a folder in the fonosfera svn when it is up in the coming days
Nov 20 12:42:35 <blogic> is that ok ?
Nov 20 12:42:42 <blogic> so you can throw your stuff in there
Nov 20 12:42:53 <blogic> and i can then package it, add luci etc  ?
Nov 20 12:43:38 <rwhitby> in reality, there's nothing much to package or guify
Nov 20 12:43:39 <rwhitby> it's just a bluetooth zone
Nov 20 12:43:45 <rwhitby> I guess the bluetooth pin number and whether you want dund or pand
Nov 20 12:44:19 <blogic> yeah
Nov 20 12:44:29 <blogic> basically
Nov 20 12:44:43 <blogic> what would be cool is if we can add your folder as a feed
Nov 20 12:44:50 <blogic> you can add packages as you please
Nov 20 12:45:06 <blogic> and i will maintain the luci- package in your folder
Nov 20 12:45:13 <blogic> this is the idea of fonosfera
Nov 20 12:45:20 <blogic> we use openwrt upstream
Nov 20 12:45:23 <blogic> + fon feed
Nov 20 12:45:27 <blogic> + community feed
Nov 20 12:47:32 <rwhitby> ok, but I see my stuff as just some global (i.e. for official openwrt too) changes to bluez-utils package
Nov 20 12:47:33 <rwhitby> and then adding luci-bluetooth or something
Nov 20 12:48:18 <rwhitby> so I'd just commit the basic fixes to openwrt svn
Nov 20 12:48:20 <blogic> well
Nov 20 12:48:25 <blogic> ok
Nov 20 12:48:26 <blogic> sure
Nov 20 12:48:37 <blogic> the problem is, you have acess to openwrt tree :)
Nov 20 12:48:51 <rwhitby> (since they're applicable for all openwrt devices running bluetooth)
Nov 20 12:48:55 <blogic> for others, they can work in their own folder and i willl handle the upstream stuff with them when ready
Nov 20 12:49:01 <rwhitby> heh, yeah, that's a real problem ;-)
Nov 20 12:49:05 <blogic> :)
Nov 20 12:49:09 <blogic> you are a special case :)
Nov 20 12:49:54 <rwhitby> ok, I'm done here for the night.  when I get my 2nd fon2 next week I'll have one running in production in the house and one to hack
Nov 20 12:50:18 <iurgi> cool
Nov 20 12:51:01 <rwhitby> (I find it's always best to be running the same device for real as you're hacking - it keeps you honest)
Nov 20 12:51:41 <blogic> i know
Nov 20 12:51:43 <blogic> i do the same
Nov 20 12:52:07 <iurgi> :)
Nov 20 12:53:52 <iurgi> not me...
Nov 20 12:53:52 <iurgi> I don't hack
Nov 20 12:53:52 <iurgi> :D
Nov 20 12:57:43 <rwhitby> night all
Nov 20 12:59:15 <iurgi> night
Nov 20 13:08:57 <Inouk> nice product : http://www.ubnt.com/products/bullet.php
Nov 20 13:10:37 <iurgi> useless
Nov 20 13:10:43 <iurgi> imho
Nov 20 13:10:57 <iurgi> btw, I have one here if you wanna try it
Nov 20 13:10:57 <iurgi> not that one
Nov 20 13:11:06 <iurgi> but a power amplifier
Nov 20 13:11:31 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 20 13:11:31 <iurgi> wait
Nov 20 13:11:36 <iurgi> I misread waht it said
Nov 20 13:11:39 <iurgi> let mere-read
Nov 20 13:12:55 <iurgi> ok, so it's a PoE +amplifier?
Nov 20 13:12:55 <iurgi> or an AP itself?
Nov 20 13:12:55 <iurgi> darn
Nov 20 13:12:55 <Inouk> + AP
Nov 20 13:12:55 <iurgi> weird device
Nov 20 13:13:04 <Inouk> all three in one
Nov 20 13:13:05 <iurgi> nice device, indeed
Nov 20 13:13:13 <iurgi> could putfon in there ;)
Nov 20 13:13:13 <Inouk> Its really small too
Nov 20 13:13:30 <iurgi> yeah
Nov 20 13:13:30 <Inouk> close 4Mb
Nov 20 13:13:30 <iurgi> impressive
Nov 20 13:13:32 <Inouk> 16 Ram atheros
Nov 20 13:13:36 <iurgi> yup
Nov 20 13:13:44 <iurgi> we should get one
Nov 20 13:13:48 <Inouk> yeah :)
Nov 20 13:13:52 <blogic> iurgi: me too please
Nov 20 13:13:55 <blogic> and nbd :)
Nov 20 13:14:10 <blogic> we can boot fon on it in a sec
Nov 20 13:14:12 <blogic> :)
Nov 20 13:14:17 <blogic> its basically a fonera
Nov 20 13:14:28 <blogic> and the madwifi detects the devic already etc ect
Nov 20 13:14:30 <Inouk> no only for madrid :p
Nov 20 13:14:34 <iurgi> no, only for martin
Nov 20 13:14:34 <iurgi> :D
Nov 20 13:14:34 <iurgi> yesh, it's a fonera
Nov 20 13:14:34 <iurgi> cool ;)
Nov 20 13:14:34 <Inouk> hahah
Nov 20 13:16:00 <Inouk> can we put FON in 4MB?
Nov 20 13:16:04 <iurgi> cool
Nov 20 13:16:06 <iurgi> how canwe get those?
Nov 20 13:16:07 <Inouk> we don't need failsafe in this device
Nov 20 13:16:28 <iurgi> brb
Nov 20 13:16:44 <blogic> yes
Nov 20 13:16:45 <blogic> and no usb
Nov 20 13:16:50 <blogic> its a fon classic
Nov 20 13:17:00 <iurgi> yup
Nov 20 13:27:49 <Lazybone> hiii
Nov 20 17:03:50 <jackbell16> Hi !
Nov 20 17:03:59 <jackbell16> I have a little problem with La F2.0
Nov 20 17:04:15 <jackbell16> The power led is lighting orage
Nov 20 17:09:58 <iurgi> is it blinking or still?
Nov 20 17:18:46 <iurgi> jackbell16?
Nov 20 17:18:47 <jackbell16> still
Nov 20 17:18:47 <iurgi> ok
Nov 20 17:18:51 <iurgi> this means it's not connected properly to the internet
Nov 20 17:18:56 <iurgi> can you connect to the internet through the F2?
Nov 20 17:23:28 <jackbell16> so what Can Be ?
Nov 20 17:24:02 <iurgi> can you connect to the internet through the F2?
Nov 20 17:42:16 <iurgi> jackbell16?
Nov 20 17:49:05 <xMff> looks like a "no"
Nov 20 17:59:08 <iurgi> xMff: lol
Nov 20 19:27:14 <TeigneuX> Hi all
Nov 20 19:27:40 <TeigneuX> blogic: have you work on the fw ?
Nov 20 19:28:07 <iurgi> TeigneuX: nope, he's been busy with other stuff
Nov 20 19:28:08 <iurgi>  :(
Nov 20 19:28:08 <iurgi> sorry
Nov 20 19:28:12 <iurgi> (I think ;D)
Nov 20 19:54:55 <TeigneuX> ok
Nov 20 19:55:08 <TeigneuX> thanks for the rep
Nov 20 19:55:32 <TeigneuX> I found a trick fo my problem but the fonera doesn't upload fast
Nov 20 20:24:24 <Lazybone1> hi blogic
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