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Nov 28 04:04:06 <macpaul> What will replace the LAN-WAN concept?
Nov 28 04:04:28 <macpaul> # for thruput enhancement?
Nov 28 09:32:34 <iurgi> macpaul: some users asked a mode where the fonera does not make NATting and has no dhcp server in it
Nov 28 09:32:44 <iurgi> so WAN and LAN woud be bridged
Nov 28 09:33:21 <macpaul> oh. I see. @_@
Nov 28 09:33:38 <macpaul> morning. :)
Nov 28 09:33:45 <iurgi> in this scenario, the fonera can reach up to 80Mbps imo
Nov 28 09:33:56 <kazwo> :)
Nov 28 09:33:56 <macpaul> really?
Nov 28 09:33:57 <iurgi> I'm not 100% sure of the figures, but it's something like that
Nov 28 09:33:58 <iurgi> hi
Nov 28 09:34:11 <kazwo> heya :)
Nov 28 09:34:18 <iurgi> macpaul: yes, it's an ethernet switch...
Nov 28 09:34:38 <iurgi> right now, that switch is split in two using VLANs and the traffic from one to the other is NATted...
Nov 28 09:38:30 <voorstad> what are the risks in this mode? I'd love to have 80MBps.....
Nov 28 09:57:08 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 28 09:57:11 <iurgi> no 'real' risks
Nov 28 09:57:29 <voorstad> well, consequences
Nov 28 09:57:30 <iurgi> only that it's difficult to determine the IP address the fonera got from the dhcp server
Nov 28 09:59:18 <voorstad> But if you run dhcp from fonero and connect all devices to the fonero, it does not matter... does it?
Nov 28 09:59:45 <iurgi> ell
Nov 28 09:59:56 <iurgi> if you run dhcp on the fonera and it is in bridged mode
Nov 28 10:00:14 <iurgi> you would have 2 networks on the same 'wires'
Nov 28 10:00:35 <rwhitby> morning
Nov 28 10:00:41 <iurgi> the one 'created' by the broadband router and the one 'created' by the fonera
Nov 28 10:00:45 <iurgi> mornin rwhitby
Nov 28 10:01:02 <rwhitby> has anyone tested tcpdump on the fon2?
Nov 28 10:01:18 <rwhitby> I need to snoop some traffic ...
Nov 28 10:01:33 <iurgi> I did
Nov 28 10:01:44 <iurgi> I think I have a compiled binary somewhere
Nov 28 10:01:51 <iurgi> although you can just grab it from openwrt
Nov 28 10:01:54 <rwhitby> I've just compiled one and am installing now
Nov 28 10:01:58 <iurgi> ah
Nov 28 10:01:58 <iurgi> ok
Nov 28 10:02:15 <rwhitby> just wondering aloud while I wait for the slow flash :-)
Nov 28 10:02:28 <rwhitby> opkg installs take forever ...
Nov 28 10:02:50 <iurgi> lol
Nov 28 10:02:54 <iurgi> opkg sucks
Nov 28 10:02:55 <iurgi> :D
Nov 28 10:03:03 <iurgi> well
Nov 28 10:03:08 <iurgi> the slow flash sucks more
Nov 28 10:03:09 <iurgi> XD
Nov 28 10:03:46 <voorstad> @"the one 'created' by the broadband router and the one 'created' by the fonera" I think I 'll accept this when i get 80 MBps :-)
Nov 28 10:04:09 <iurgi> but you don't need to do that
Nov 28 10:04:29 <iurgi> when we enable LAN-WAN bridge, I think the fonera will not have it's own network
Nov 28 10:04:44 <iurgi> you can connect to it using the administrative IP and check the IP
Nov 28 10:04:47 <iurgi> or we will see
Nov 28 10:04:54 <iurgi> that's the main problem, to be honest
Nov 28 10:05:00 <iurgi> how to make it user friendly...
Nov 28 10:05:30 <rwhitby> ok, tcpdump is working nicely - can even do just eth0.0 to get the wired ethernet and not the wireless (which is what I want)
Nov 28 10:06:06 <rwhitby> now to work out how to mount a directory over nfs so I can store the dumps somewhere ...
Nov 28 10:08:21 <iurgi> :)
Nov 28 10:08:39 <iurgi> I'm not sure nfs is in the kernel by default...
Nov 28 10:08:46 <iurgi> did you enable it when building the imagE?
Nov 28 10:09:35 <rwhitby> this device is just running stock sylvester
Nov 28 10:09:44 <iurgi> hmmm
Nov 28 10:09:53 <iurgi> then it's pretty likely you don't have nfs
Nov 28 10:09:55 <iurgi> :(
Nov 28 10:10:14 <rwhitby> it would be nice for the stock kernel to be built with NFS as modules, but not installing the modules.
Nov 28 10:10:16 <iurgi> maybe it's enabled as a module and you only need to install it
Nov 28 10:10:18 <iurgi> yes
Nov 28 10:10:22 <iurgi> I agree
Nov 28 10:10:30 <iurgi> I'm not sure if this is what we've got
Nov 28 10:10:33 <iurgi> let's check it
Nov 28 10:13:55 <iurgi> my tree is broken right now
Nov 28 10:13:56 <iurgi> lol
Nov 28 10:14:00 <iurgi> can't check it
Nov 28 10:14:07 <iurgi> how about yours rwhitby?
Nov 28 10:14:30 <rwhitby> sorry, was distracted decoding packets from my new PVR
Nov 28 10:15:30 <rwhitby> CONFIG_NFS_FS=m :-)
Nov 28 10:15:51 * rwhitby hugs blogic
Nov 28 10:15:58 <iurgi> :)
Nov 28 10:23:18 <voorstad> 80 MBps is veeerrryyy userfriendly :-). Streaming VOB (DVD) is not possible now, but I admit I have NTFS. Still need to convert to EXT3 as i understood. But I now sometimes hook my HD directly to the pc's USB port when transferring large files (to speed up :-) .... )
Nov 28 10:31:21 <kazwo> \o/
Nov 28 10:34:44 * rwhitby needs to work out how to use the autofs which seems to be running on the fon2 ...
Nov 28 10:35:01 <rwhitby> mountd(pid2067) on /tmp/run/mountd type autofs (rw,fd=7,pgrp=2066,timeout=60,minproto=5,maxproto=5,indirect)
Nov 28 10:44:26 <rwhitby> hmm - not enough room in flash for tcpdump and nfs modules :-(
Nov 28 10:44:44 <rwhitby> Need to work out how to pivot_root this thing to a flash stick
Nov 28 11:26:34 <rwhitby> ok, so I run "mount -t nfs 192.168.1.3:/home /mnt" and the ssh connection to the fonera dies.
Nov 28 11:28:56 <rwhitby> hmm - it actually reboots :-(
Nov 28 11:59:44 <iurgi> ops
Nov 28 11:59:47 <iurgi> that'sweird
Nov 28 11:59:53 <iurgi> do you have a serial cable?
Nov 28 12:15:49 <rwhitby> not on that device, the other one has serial but it's at work, so not until Monday
Nov 28 12:18:18 <iurgi> ops
Nov 28 12:18:20 <iurgi> darn
Nov 28 12:20:05 <Lazybone1> hi
Nov 28 12:20:44 <iurgi> hi
Nov 28 12:20:56 <Lazybone1> blogic are you there?
Nov 28 12:21:07 <kazwo> hi
Nov 28 12:21:13 <blogic> yes
Nov 28 12:21:17 <blogic> i am here
Nov 28 12:21:24 <blogic> and i will be testing pppoe today
Nov 28 12:21:33 <Lazybone1> k
Nov 28 12:21:40 <blogic> it is for real this time
Nov 28 12:21:41 <blogic> :)
Nov 28 12:21:50 <blogic> its 1 of the last 3 things i need to do :)
Nov 28 12:21:52 <blogic> \o/
Nov 28 12:25:13 <kazwo> dont forget the schä. wheelchair control!
Nov 28 12:46:45 <rwhitby> blogic: are you still interested in the fsg3?
Nov 28 12:57:41 <blogic> yes
Nov 28 12:57:52 <blogic> its on my listr for next week of the week after
Nov 28 13:09:05 <rwhitby> blogic: I'm transitioning my fsg3 to openwrt too.
Nov 28 13:16:24 <blogic> good
Nov 28 13:16:29 <blogic> use the fon firmware :)
Nov 28 13:41:38 <kazwo> iam so drunk ...
Nov 28 16:33:41 <Inouk> is there french people that are available to make some tests for me
Nov 28 16:33:57 <Inouk> you have to be in France
Nov 28 16:46:08 <kazwo> i think i have some french wine
Nov 28 18:15:29 <pablo_bz> puaj
Nov 28 18:15:33 <pablo_bz> french wine...
Nov 28 18:16:21 <pablo_bz> the biggest expensive shit ever sold
Nov 28 18:18:14 <iurgi> lol
Nov 28 18:30:19 <pablo_bz> go find something palatable here: http://www.riberadelduero.es/eng/index.asp
Nov 28 18:33:33 <kazwo> :D
Nov 28 18:55:57 <kazwo> i rarely drink wine. in bavaria we drink more beer :)
Nov 28 19:16:13 <blogic> muhahahhaha
Nov 28 19:16:20 <blogic> pppoe is fixed aswell now
Nov 28 19:16:29 <blogic> hmm
Nov 28 19:16:31 <kazwo> \o/
Nov 28 19:16:34 <kazwo> nice work :)
Nov 28 19:16:36 <blogic> no open bugs left :)
Nov 28 19:16:39 <blogic> i think
Nov 28 19:16:41 <blogic> i hope
Nov 28 19:16:52 * blogic does some detail work now
Nov 28 19:16:55 <blogic> :)
Nov 28 19:18:02 <iurgi> :)
Nov 28 19:31:15 <kazwo> implent some eastereggs :D
Nov 28 19:31:44 <iurgi> hahaha
Nov 28 19:32:11 <kazwo> a little game: killing little cats in trains :P
Nov 28 20:14:08 <voorstad> Blogic: "some detail work" DNS plugin? :-)
Nov 28 20:14:43 <blogic> nothing
Nov 28 20:33:16 <rwhitby> blogic: I need to add the fsg3's rtc device to the ixp4xx kernel config
Nov 28 20:37:03 <blogic> ok
Nov 28 20:37:16 <blogic> otherwise no dates for files :)
Nov 28 20:40:53 <rwhitby> blogic: actually, it's just a one line change in the board code for the fsg3
Nov 28 20:41:06 <rwhitby> everything else is there already
Nov 28 20:41:17 <rwhitby> blogic: fon2 kernel is 2.6.26.6 ?
Nov 28 21:17:21 <blogic> yes
Nov 28 21:17:29 <blogic> but we can use a different one for fsg3
Nov 28 21:41:15 <rwhitby> blogic: 809 is working on fsg3 - just need to do some network config tweaks to the base image now
Nov 28 21:41:33 <rwhitby> switch comes up as eth1 for wan and eth0 for 3 port lan
Nov 28 21:41:45 <blogic> ok
Nov 28 21:41:48 <blogic> nice
Nov 28 21:41:57 <blogic> we can fix the rest
Nov 28 21:50:17 <voorstad> mmmm, just bricked my FON2200 :-(
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