**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Jan 15 09:00:27 2009
Jan 15 09:10:47 <Fred__> Good morning
Jan 15 09:12:03 <Fred__> I have news on the ftp issue
Jan 15 09:52:52 <iurgi> christophe-marie: sounds like the audio module is not loaded
Jan 15 09:53:53 <christophe-marie> how would I load it?
Jan 15 09:55:16 <christophe-marie> modprobe or something like that?
Jan 15 09:55:45 <christophe-marie> there does not seem to be a modprobe command on the fonera
Jan 15 09:56:12 <christophe-marie> btw, iurgi : w
Jan 15 09:56:12 <pm2036> hi christophe-marie, I just come back on the chan, let me some minutes to read the log ;)
Jan 15 09:56:22 <christophe-marie> :)
Jan 15 09:56:24 <christophe-marie> k
Jan 15 09:58:01 <christophe-marie> btw if you can tell me where I have to search for adding a boot script for my fonera, you'd be lovely
Jan 15 09:58:14 <pm2036> for your first question => http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/F2_MgtConsole_tweaks#.2Fetc.2Finit.d
Jan 15 09:58:27 <christophe-marie> thaaaank you
Jan 15 10:00:08 <pm2036> for your second problem two way => reboot or use insmod
Jan 15 10:00:48 <pm2036> the usb soundcard is connected directly to the fonera or after an usb hub
Jan 15 10:00:50 <pm2036> ?
Jan 15 10:03:18 <christophe-marie> directly
Jan 15 10:03:33 <christophe-marie> I've already rebooted once
Jan 15 10:03:56 <christophe-marie> what is the name of the module, I'll try manual insertion
Jan 15 10:03:57 <christophe-marie> ?
Jan 15 10:05:07 <christophe-marie> pm2036: I used the reboot command, by ssh
Jan 15 10:05:42 <pm2036> ok
Jan 15 10:07:42 <christophe-marie> pm2036: btw, some snd modules seem to be loaded : lsmod|grep snd gives me 13 lines of output
Jan 15 10:08:01 <pm2036> ok
Jan 15 10:08:27 <pm2036> when you plug the soundcard on the la fonera, what is the result of dmesg?
Jan 15 10:08:28 <christophe-marie> pm2036: however, the soundcard doesn't light its led
Jan 15 10:08:35 <christophe-marie> I'll try
Jan 15 10:09:58 <christophe-marie> well, nothing related to sound, I think
Jan 15 10:11:00 <christophe-marie> the last message about usb is about uvcvideo, its a webcam driver isn't it?
Jan 15 10:11:56 <christophe-marie> Oh, I found something relevant
Jan 15 10:11:57 <christophe-marie> root@Fonera:~# dmesg|grep snd
Jan 15 10:11:58 <christophe-marie> usbcore: registered new interface driver snd-usb-audio
Jan 15 10:12:49 <pm2036> it's the load of the driver, so the driver is loaded
Jan 15 10:13:08 <christophe-marie> however, unplugging/replugging the device does not increase the size of the output of dmesg
Jan 15 10:13:19 <pm2036> very strange
Jan 15 10:13:27 <pm2036> have you got an usb2 hub near you?
Jan 15 10:13:38 <christophe-marie> nop
Jan 15 10:14:46 <christophe-marie> I confirm : if I unplug the device, then do dmesg|wc -l, then replug it and run again dmes|wc -l, I get 169 in both cases
Jan 15 10:15:01 <christophe-marie> *dmesg|wc -l
Jan 15 10:16:00 <Fred__> Hi again
Jan 15 10:16:08 <christophe-marie> is there a way I can detect the devices connected by usb to the fonera? lsusb -> command not found
Jan 15 10:17:21 <iurgi> hi Fred__
Jan 15 10:17:52 <iurgi> christophe-marie: cat /proc/bus/usb/devices
Jan 15 10:17:59 <christophe-marie> thx
Jan 15 10:18:00 <Fred__> Hi Iurgi, I've got news about the ftp issue we were discussing yesterday
Jan 15 10:18:08 <pm2036> what is your firmware version, because "normally" in tantor, the driver for snd is included
Jan 15 10:18:50 <christophe-marie> I don't know, the last time I updated it was 1 month before Xmas
Jan 15 10:19:04 <christophe-marie> like, november, I think
Jan 15 10:19:14 <iurgi> Fred__: sure
Jan 15 10:19:28 <Fred__> It is clear it is a NTFS related problem. Yesterday y used an Ubuntu live CD to format my USB disk to ext3 with Gparted and after thet, ftp server works like a charm
Jan 15 10:19:29 <iurgi> christophe-marie: cat /etc/banner
Jan 15 10:19:33 <iurgi> what animal do you see?
Jan 15 10:19:45 <iurgi> Fred__: great, that's helpful
Jan 15 10:19:47 <iurgi> thanks a lot
Jan 15 10:20:02 <christophe-marie> a cute "evil teddy"
Jan 15 10:20:43 <Fred__> Now I can download/upload from the LAN and the WAN port (I enabled it in the LF2 firewall).
Jan 15 10:21:47 <christophe-marie> pm2036: i know there has been an update to the driver at Xmas, but the ipks you provided should work with my version, shouldn't they?
Jan 15 10:22:26 <pm2036> yes because I give only libs for madplay and madplay
Jan 15 10:22:42 <pm2036> not the usb soundcore since it's released directly into the firmware
Jan 15 10:23:12 <christophe-marie> was it in evil teddy?
Jan 15 10:23:19 <christophe-marie> the soundcore
Jan 15 10:23:36 <pm2036> It's my problem, I don't remember^
Jan 15 10:23:43 <christophe-marie> :)
Jan 15 10:23:57 <christophe-marie> k, I'm going to upgrade
Jan 15 10:24:30 <christophe-marie> not today, since I can't afford not having internet even for 20 min today
Jan 15 10:24:53 <christophe-marie> but I'll get back here if I still have problems
Jan 15 10:24:56 <iurgi> christophe-marie: internet should work while upgrading
Jan 15 10:25:04 <iurgi> but yeah, don't risk it, just in case
Jan 15 10:25:52 <christophe-marie> iurgi: that's complicated, there are chances it doesn't work because I must run scripts to change the mac of the fonera for getting it to work
Jan 15 10:26:25 <christophe-marie> iurgi: because of my isp, they allow only one mac and it's the one of my former computer
Jan 15 10:26:45 <christophe-marie> I am to change of isp asap
Jan 15 10:28:13 <christophe-marie> numericable is crap, don't go there
Jan 15 10:28:46 <pm2036> lol
Jan 15 10:29:40 <pm2036> the reset and the restart of your cable modem should sove this problem, many people on the french board had solve their problem with this solution ;)
Jan 15 10:29:41 <christophe-marie> pm2036: when are you usually on this channel? so I can get back here at the right moment?
Jan 15 10:29:58 <christophe-marie> pm2036: not me, but it's fine
Jan 15 10:30:19 <christophe-marie> I know where is the problem, but solving it would take too long
Jan 15 10:30:54 <pm2036> christophe-marie: I'm often here from 9am to 6pm and sometimes on the "night"
Jan 15 10:31:00 <christophe-marie> I have a very old modem they have to update by hand
Jan 15 10:31:01 <christophe-marie> ok
Jan 15 10:31:03 <pm2036> ok
Jan 15 10:31:09 <pm2036> but i'm always connected
Jan 15 10:31:25 <pm2036> you can also send me a mail before pm2036@francofon.fr
Jan 15 10:31:57 <christophe-marie> when they hear "I'm running linux, I can't run what you ask me to do" the support service go mad
Jan 15 10:32:02 <christophe-marie> thank you
Jan 15 10:32:20 <iurgi> christophe-marie: I usually tell them "done"
Jan 15 10:32:24 <iurgi> when they ask me that
Jan 15 10:32:28 <iurgi> so they move on
Jan 15 10:32:28 <iurgi> hehe
Jan 15 10:32:50 <pm2036> you can also say to them "I'm just changing my computer" ;)
Jan 15 10:33:06 <christophe-marie> pm2036: btw, is it possible to put a mpd server on the fonera?
Jan 15 10:33:27 <pm2036> Yes
Jan 15 10:33:47 <christophe-marie> because as far as I've understood, the driver you provide only allow to read a stream
Jan 15 10:33:59 <pm2036> or play a file
Jan 15 10:34:11 <pm2036> it's not a driver, it's madplay
Jan 15 10:34:20 <christophe-marie> that's great :)
Jan 15 10:34:27 <pm2036> http://www.underbit.com/products/mad/
Jan 15 10:34:35 <christophe-marie> thxs
Jan 15 10:35:41 <christophe-marie> so to run this mpd server, I guess I have to compile it?
Jan 15 10:37:29 <christophe-marie> oh, it can also run mocp, sweet
Jan 15 10:38:27 <pm2036> look here => http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openwrt/fon-ng/mips/
Jan 15 10:39:02 <pm2036> Rwhitby have compiled many packages
Jan 15 10:40:21 <christophe-marie> oh yeaaah
Jan 15 10:40:39 <christophe-marie> I know what I'm going to do :)
Jan 15 10:41:33 <christophe-marie> I have to buy a usb hub, and I'll be able to control the music through bluetooth with my cellphone ^^
Jan 15 10:41:49 <christophe-marie> that'll be sooo great
Jan 15 10:42:23 <christophe-marie> so, see you soon
Jan 15 10:43:04 <pm2036> ;)
Jan 15 10:44:44 <iurgi> cya!
Jan 15 10:44:47 <iurgi> ops, left
Jan 15 10:44:48 <iurgi> hehe
Jan 15 10:46:19 <Fred__> My next step is to get samba running which I still haven't... Is there any known problem?
Jan 15 10:46:56 <Fred__> I can't get to see fonera in my Network environment in Windoze.
Jan 15 10:47:22 <iurgi> Fred__: samba works fine, but you can't 'see' it with your browser in windows
Jan 15 10:48:06 <Fred__> I enter the IP/Media in the network browser but still nothing. By the way, is it normal LF2 doesn't respond to pings?
Jan 15 10:48:06 <iurgi> since it has only the smb daemon (for file sahring) but not the nmd daemon (for service advertising in the network - netbios)
Jan 15 10:48:13 <iurgi> no
Jan 15 10:48:14 <iurgi> it is not
Jan 15 10:48:18 <iurgi> lan or wan?
Jan 15 10:48:30 <Fred__> Mine does not respond to ping over the wan
Jan 15 10:48:46 <Fred__> While LF1 does
Jan 15 10:51:51 <iurgi> ahhhhh
Jan 15 10:51:54 <iurgi> over the wan!
Jan 15 10:51:57 <iurgi> of course
Jan 15 10:52:00 <iurgi> the F2 does not
Jan 15 10:52:06 <iurgi> and samba won't work over the wan
Jan 15 10:52:10 <iurgi> for some unknow reason
Jan 15 10:52:29 <Fred__> ok, that's what I needed to know
Jan 15 10:53:10 <Fred__> Hope one day It'll work on WAN since it's the network scheme I'd like to use...
Jan 15 11:03:31 <iurgi> ok
Jan 15 11:03:35 <sylvainzimmer> hi there
Jan 15 11:03:37 <iurgi> maybe you can help to find the problem
Jan 15 11:03:40 <iurgi> hi sylvainzimmer
Jan 15 11:03:46 <iurgi> I saw a video by jamendo
Jan 15 11:03:48 <iurgi> cool stuff
Jan 15 11:04:05 <sylvainzimmer> :-)
Jan 15 11:04:09 <sylvainzimmer> let me reconnect on my fonera
Jan 15 11:07:29 <Fred__> Well, since I don't have programming education or skills, the only way I can contribute is as a tester
Jan 15 11:08:58 <iurgi> sure
Jan 15 11:09:21 <iurgi> if you use linux, you could for instance provide the nmap port scan result from the wan
Jan 15 11:14:04 <sylvainzimmer_> hi again
Jan 15 11:14:22 <sylvainzimmer_> so! how are you doing?
Jan 15 11:21:19 <iurgi> doing well
Jan 15 11:21:20 <iurgi> :)
Jan 15 11:21:27 <iurgi> how is your plugin?
Jan 15 11:21:31 <iurgi> the video looks great
Jan 15 11:25:30 <sylvainzimmer_> thanks!
Jan 15 11:25:36 <sylvainzimmer_> I'm trying to build a tgz right now
Jan 15 11:25:43 <sylvainzimmer_> with update file
Jan 15 11:26:12 <sylvainzimmer_> I wanted to check your progress on the mp3 engine?
Jan 15 11:26:38 <iurgi> well, john's been so busy lately with other plugins
Jan 15 11:26:43 <sylvainzimmer_> and to know how it's going to work ; will the mp3 command be on every fonera 2.0 or will we need to include it in the plugin?
Jan 15 11:26:56 <iurgi> but pablo_bz and me will work on a howto for plugins and will probably use the mp3 as an example
Jan 15 11:27:04 <sylvainzimmer_> ok!
Jan 15 11:27:07 <iurgi> it will be a plugin
Jan 15 11:37:32 <sylvainzimmer_> I've just commited a first version of my build script, I'll try to work out the remaining problems this afternoon
Jan 15 11:37:54 <sylvainzimmer_> but it installs OK on the fonera
Jan 15 11:38:19 <iurgi> great
Jan 15 11:38:20 <iurgi> :D
Jan 15 11:38:26 * iurgi likes the jamendo plugin
Jan 15 11:43:20 <iurgi> brb
Jan 15 11:45:57 <Fred__> One day we'll see de Fon Developers Conference  (FDC)   :-D
Jan 15 11:46:35 <Fred__> Or FonWorld?  Iurgi, tell your boss how coll this event would be  :-)
Jan 15 11:46:58 <Fred__> cool I mean (sorry for my bad typewriting)
Jan 15 14:24:13 <sylvainzimmer_> iurgi: I think we talked about that a while ago, what's the best way to identify a fonera/fonero, from lua ?
Jan 15 14:24:58 <sylvainzimmer_> we have to pass some sort of ID to our shop to be able to trace back the fonero (to send fon commissions..)
Jan 15 14:26:06 <iurgi> sylvainzimmer_: hmmm you wanna identify the owner?
Jan 15 14:26:39 <sylvainzimmer_> yes
Jan 15 14:29:50 <iurgi> what's the purpose of it?
Jan 15 14:30:05 <iurgi> apart from fon comissions?
Jan 15 14:30:45 <iurgi> I mean, if it's for comissions, we would probably need something not easy to spoof
Jan 15 14:31:02 <blogic> yeah
Jan 15 14:31:48 <iurgi> query/ sylvainzimmer_
Jan 15 14:55:39 <pablo_bz> we will be adding some support over just the .tgz and update
Jan 15 14:56:09 <pablo_bz> because we are going to need a bit of dependencies and install/uninstall tracking. something simple
Jan 15 14:57:30 <blogic> ?
Jan 15 14:57:33 <blogic> what you mean ?
Jan 15 14:58:36 <iurgi> yeah, what do you mean?
Jan 15 14:59:09 <blogic> pablo_bz: you smell :)
Jan 15 14:59:33 <blogic> iurgi: is he drinking again ?
Jan 15 15:00:47 <pablo_bz> i am reviewing a bit on systems like ipkg, deb, rpm, pacman, pup&pet, PISI ..
Jan 15 15:01:09 <pablo_bz> fully fledged systems are overdue for what we want
Jan 15 15:01:35 <pablo_bz> because we have a base system outside the tracking, upgradeable on it's own, and we just want some way to tag and organize the plugins
Jan 15 15:01:48 <pablo_bz> and to install them in /Plugins/<name>
Jan 15 15:01:53 <blogic> ah ok
Jan 15 15:02:14 <pablo_bz> and a bit of feedback while installing/uninstalling and a bit of queriying and a little database to know what we have
Jan 15 15:02:41 <pablo_bz> so i have been thinking on doing a very light format over the already existant signed .tgz, and a lua unit to access it
Jan 15 15:02:52 <pablo_bz> from the luci interface
Jan 15 15:03:59 <iurgi> sounds better to me than using these existing solutions
Jan 15 15:05:33 <pablo_bz> the most important thing is interact while installing via luci to give progress and to ask the user on installing on a pendrive
Jan 15 15:05:46 <pablo_bz> and on installing on a pendrive, do the loopback device files and install there seamlessly
Jan 15 15:06:28 <pablo_bz> thats the big thing to do in the installer. The rest is a bit of a format to make an API to list packages/authors/versions, both in fonosfera and in LUCI
Jan 15 15:06:32 <pablo_bz> and do uninstall
Jan 15 15:08:03 <pablo_bz> there is people already installing in pendrives/external disks for more size
Jan 15 15:08:56 <blogic> pablo_bz: muhahahahha
Jan 15 15:13:23 <pablo_bz> yes, yes, enoufh chittichatting
Jan 15 15:31:04 <blogic> haha
Jan 15 19:50:23 <bmpeter> in the File browser on my Pendrive i see Emberi er�forr�s  instead of Emberi erőforrás in file name
Jan 15 19:51:48 <bmpeter> the Hungarian language use UTF-8 encoding
Jan 15 19:53:42 <bmpeter> but i dont know why dont appear correctly the file name in F2.0's File browser
Jan 15 20:21:53 <Fred_____> Hi all
Jan 15 23:31:06 <iosonoio> hi!
Jan 16 00:18:13 <mib_gbar22> hello, i try to connect via ssh vwith the user admin but it doesn't work
Jan 16 00:18:20 <mib_gbar22> what is the correct user ?
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