**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Feb 02 02:59:57 2009
Feb 02 07:13:43 <kazwo> school on monday sucks
Feb 02 07:14:03 <xMff> definitely
Feb 02 07:16:00 <blogic> hi
Feb 02 07:16:15 <kazwo> good morning
Feb 02 07:16:29 <kazwo> i think i leave the school soon ^^
Feb 02 07:16:58 <xMff> moin blogic
Feb 02 07:23:02 <blogic> hi xMff
Feb 02 07:48:54 <kazwo> boring :(
Feb 02 07:57:26 <Danicasti> Hi!
Feb 02 07:59:05 <kazwo> hi!
Feb 02 08:37:17 <kazwo> omw back to home
Feb 02 08:38:01 <blogic> ?
Feb 02 08:38:04 <blogic> no class ?
Feb 02 08:38:58 <kazwo> not real, just exam correction
Feb 02 08:39:39 <blogic> ah ok
Feb 02 08:39:44 <blogic> zeugnisse ?
Feb 02 08:40:28 <kazwo> at monday 16.02 ^^
Feb 02 08:42:04 <kazwo> today is the correction of the technical building equipment exam and two hours of bwl ... i hate bwl
Feb 02 08:42:55 <xMff> everybody hates bwl
Feb 02 08:43:53 <kazwo> any bwl students here? :P
Feb 02 08:46:37 <Danicasti> Wats is bwl???
Feb 02 08:47:45 <kazwo> business management
Feb 02 08:50:20 <kazwo> or business administration
Feb 02 08:52:22 <Danicasti> :(
Feb 02 08:53:46 <kazwo> you like it?
Feb 02 08:58:59 <blogic> kazwo: i am a dipl. bwl :)
Feb 02 08:59:08 <blogic> and i am not joking
Feb 02 08:59:13 <kazwo> O_O
Feb 02 08:59:21 <kazwo> OMG
Feb 02 09:00:52 <blogic> ;)
Feb 02 09:01:37 <kazwo> but now you on the right way? :P
Feb 02 09:01:47 <blogic> nah
Feb 02 09:01:49 <blogic> :)
Feb 02 09:03:12 <kazwo> you can write the bwl technican exam for me :D
Feb 02 09:03:49 <kazwo> brb. umts signal gets lost
Feb 02 09:51:31 <fon_> hi
Feb 02 09:51:56 <blogic> hi
Feb 02 09:52:09 <fon_> can i know what is the OLPC pluggin for? i mean what is the different between it and normal wireless?
Feb 02 09:52:39 <blogic> the 802.11s
Feb 02 09:53:19 <blogic> the "s" is meshing
Feb 02 09:54:12 <kazwo> where can i get a working stick
Feb 02 09:54:50 <blogic> laptop.org, the developer program
Feb 02 09:54:57 <blogic> this plugin is mainly for laptop.org
Feb 02 09:55:15 <blogic> so, if you ave a libertas dongle and a olpc :) .....
Feb 02 09:59:46 <fon_> is it a bit like repeater mode?
Feb 02 10:00:03 <CyrusFF> its a mesh
Feb 02 10:00:42 <CyrusFF> repeater-mode is WDS
Feb 02 10:13:54 <fon_> ic. Thanks
Feb 02 10:14:27 <blogic> http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/changeset/167
Feb 02 10:14:33 <blogic> ;)
Feb 02 10:14:41 <blogic> we will package it today for you guys
Feb 02 10:34:54 <bmpeter> oooh, myyyy gooooood
Feb 02 10:35:06 <bmpeter> blogic :)
Feb 02 10:56:03 <Fred__> Anyone tested samb witn MacOS X
Feb 02 10:56:05 <Fred__> ?
Feb 02 11:00:58 <iurgi> nope
Feb 02 11:01:00 <iurgi> well
Feb 02 11:01:01 <iurgi> yes
Feb 02 11:01:04 <iurgi> long ago
Feb 02 11:01:06 <iurgi> it worked
Feb 02 11:01:23 <iurgi> and since nothing changed essentially, it should be working
Feb 02 11:01:27 <iurgi> doesn't it work for you?
Feb 02 11:02:14 <bmpeter> Fred__ im not tested yet
Feb 02 11:03:03 <Fred__> Oh, no, just heard somebody had problems with it but id didn't test. I only tested with Ubuntu (everythin perfect) and Vista (lots of problems).
Feb 02 11:03:56 <Fred__> With Vista, I only get 14,3 Mb recognized in the hard disk
Feb 02 11:04:25 <iurgi> ??
Feb 02 11:04:36 <iurgi> but you can connect to the shares?
Feb 02 11:04:50 <Fred__> Yes. And can not copy more than 14,2 Mb at a time
Feb 02 11:05:00 <blogic> Vista is incompatible to the rest of the world, even to XP
Feb 02 11:05:05 <Fred__> Yes, I can connect after making a registry tweak
Feb 02 11:05:07 <blogic> so there is not reall ymuch we can do atm
Feb 02 11:05:31 <Fred__> I know blogic. Vista is crap
Feb 02 11:06:00 <Fred__> But I have been reading Win7 brings the same problem with it....
Feb 02 11:08:18 <blogic> so
Feb 02 11:08:21 <blogic> Win7 is Vista
Feb 02 11:08:35 <blogic> i mean the Beta is full of bugs and security holes
Feb 02 11:10:14 <Fred__> I am an ignorant about this issues but I have been reading the problem comes form the authentication between Vista and Samba...
Feb 02 11:10:23 <blogic> yes
Feb 02 11:10:29 <blogic> vista is incompatible
Feb 02 11:10:39 <blogic> it does not support ntlmv2
Feb 02 11:10:50 <blogic> which is a microsoft standard
Feb 02 11:11:00 <blogic> so Vista is not even compatible to windows
Feb 02 11:11:06 <blogic> which is hillarious imho
Feb 02 11:12:44 <iurgi> indeed
Feb 02 11:17:12 <Fred__> so, isn't there any workaround wich can be done? Unfortunately, most of LF2 users may be using crap-Vista....
Feb 02 11:17:42 <blogic> not most, some
Feb 02 11:17:44 <blogic> and no
Feb 02 11:17:48 <blogic> there is nothing we can do
Feb 02 11:17:59 <blogic> vista is incompatible (in case i never mentioned that)
Feb 02 11:18:04 <blogic> it is not a problem of LF2
Feb 02 11:18:05 <Fred__> je je
Feb 02 11:18:07 <blogic> but of windows
Feb 02 11:22:56 <kazwo> the problen is windows vista / 7 wants a ntlmv2 authentication answer which samba dont support by default
Feb 02 11:23:07 <blogic> ok
Feb 02 11:23:11 <blogic> we will have a look later
Feb 02 11:23:18 <blogic> no time today i am afraid
Feb 02 11:24:18 <blogic>  Error: Bad gzipped data
Feb 02 11:24:18 <blogic> GUNZIP ERROR - must RESET board to recover
Feb 02 11:24:20 <blogic> oops
Feb 02 11:24:29 <iurgi> ??
Feb 02 11:40:11 <blogic> ahhhhhhhhh
Feb 02 11:40:25 <blogic> i am being attacked by my cat
Feb 02 11:41:13 <iurgi> again?
Feb 02 11:41:25 <iurgi> blogic's cat loves morning attacks
Feb 02 11:41:46 <blogic> yeah
Feb 02 11:42:03 <blogic> itit woke me up at 7
Feb 02 11:42:13 <blogic> then i fed it, and it went back to sleep
Feb 02 11:42:18 <blogic> now it wants to be cuddles
Feb 02 11:42:20 <blogic> so ...
Feb 02 11:42:27 <blogic> bbr *playing with cat*
Feb 02 12:28:09 <bmpeter> can i connect to F2 via WAN port to SMB ? or just WLAN?
Feb 02 12:34:39 <iurgi> WLAN/LAN/WAN
Feb 02 12:34:42 <iurgi> all of them
Feb 02 12:36:15 <blogic> bmpeter: since OP2 they all work
Feb 02 13:10:47 <Danicasti> you have the cgi commands  to read the /dev/ttyUSB0 and copy to a file?
Feb 02 13:11:12 <Danicasti> sono ancora incasinato....
Feb 02 13:14:17 <Danicasti> Help me!!!!
Feb 02 13:15:03 <blogic> speak english !!!
Feb 02 13:15:13 <blogic> i have no idea what sono ancora incasinato.... means
Feb 02 13:15:33 <blogic> and we dont use cgi, so we have no commands, sorry
Feb 02 13:15:39 <blogic> what do you want to achieve ?
Feb 02 13:17:06 <Danicasti> I need to read and send data to USB port
Feb 02 13:17:23 <Danicasti> to send and receive data to a micro
Feb 02 13:17:26 <Danicasti> pic
Feb 02 13:18:27 <Danicasti> ....i use google translate.... sorry for my bad english!!!!
Feb 02 13:19:08 <blogic> ok
Feb 02 13:19:16 <blogic> microchip pic is cool :)
Feb 02 13:19:20 <blogic> in this case ....
Feb 02 13:19:21 <blogic> 1 sec
Feb 02 13:22:09 <Danicasti> ok....
Feb 02 13:23:47 <blogic> Danicasti: https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/packages/net/ser2net
Feb 02 13:24:01 <blogic> ser2net exports a ttyUSB to tcp/ip , so you can telnet into it
Feb 02 13:24:04 <blogic> will that help ?
Feb 02 13:24:23 <Danicasti> uhm....
Feb 02 13:24:38 <Danicasti> well....
Feb 02 13:25:12 <Danicasti> i have attached the Picmicro to a usb-serial dongle pl-2303....
Feb 02 13:25:45 <Danicasti> i send to picmicro and the picmicro receive....
Feb 02 13:25:59 <blogic> yes
Feb 02 13:26:10 <bmpeter> blogic ok, i will check the smb
Feb 02 13:26:43 <blogic> bmpeter: cool
Feb 02 13:26:50 <Danicasti> but I can not read the bytes
Feb 02 13:27:38 <blogic> hmm
Feb 02 13:27:43 <Danicasti> i digit "cat /dev/ttyUSB0"
Feb 02 13:27:50 <blogic> that does not work
Feb 02 13:28:14 <blogic> you have to use ser2net, minicom or a c program
Feb 02 13:28:16 <Danicasti> or "cat /dev/ttyUSB0 >> /tmp/pippo"
Feb 02 13:28:17 <blogic> those 3 options
Feb 02 13:28:28 <blogic> still, it wont work
Feb 02 13:30:07 <Danicasti>  I do not want to use the built-in serial console...
Feb 02 13:30:13 <Danicasti> it work...
Feb 02 13:30:19 <blogic> well, i would like to be a millionaire
Feb 02 13:30:24 <blogic> but it is not my choice
Feb 02 13:30:30 <blogic> yes ?
Feb 02 13:30:34 <blogic> what did you change ?
Feb 02 13:31:18 <Danicasti> the usb is cool
Feb 02 13:32:09 <blogic> usb is always cool :)
Feb 02 13:32:14 <Danicasti> I want to use for home automation
Feb 02 13:32:26 <Danicasti> read temperature
Feb 02 13:32:29 <blogic> cool
Feb 02 13:32:31 <blogic> lm75 ?
Feb 02 13:32:38 <Danicasti> and switch lamp
Feb 02 13:32:43 <blogic> or dallas 1-wire ?
Feb 02 13:32:49 <Danicasti> noooo!!!
Feb 02 13:32:56 <Danicasti> 1-wire!!!!
Feb 02 13:33:03 <blogic> cool
Feb 02 13:33:05 <blogic> 1 sec
Feb 02 13:33:18 <blogic> there is a linux library for 1-wire
Feb 02 13:33:25 <blogic> i do not know if it will help you
Feb 02 13:33:30 <Danicasti> yes
Feb 02 13:33:38 <blogic> http://www.owfs.org/
Feb 02 13:33:40 <Danicasti> is owfs
Feb 02 13:33:45 <blogic> yes :)
Feb 02 13:33:54 <blogic> USB, serial and i2c adapters
Feb 02 13:34:01 <blogic> the homepage says USB, serial and i2c adapters
Feb 02 13:34:31 <Danicasti> is easier to work a picmicro...
Feb 02 13:34:44 <Danicasti> the f2 is for interface to internet
Feb 02 13:35:00 <Danicasti> like fonhome
Feb 02 13:35:01 <blogic> ok ok
Feb 02 13:35:17 <blogic> i prefer atmegaX, but pic is a very cool project :)
Feb 02 13:35:31 <Danicasti> f2----->Picmicro------>devices
Feb 02 13:35:33 <blogic> do you use gcc / bascom/icc ??
Feb 02 13:35:44 <blogic> yes, perfect
Feb 02 13:35:52 <Danicasti> picbasic is simple
Feb 02 13:36:20 <blogic> ah, cool
Feb 02 13:38:00 <Danicasti> blocic:PM!
Feb 02 13:38:08 <Danicasti> PM
Feb 02 13:38:27 <blogic> ok
Feb 02 13:39:39 <Danicasti> 	 What do you think?
Feb 02 13:40:27 <blogic> nice
Feb 02 13:41:39 <Danicasti> the first is a solar panel
Feb 02 13:42:06 <Danicasti> the other is the chimney
Feb 02 13:44:44 <Danicasti> do you think that I could solve with minicom?
Feb 02 13:46:30 <blogic> no
Feb 02 13:46:34 <blogic> ser2net
Feb 02 13:46:37 <blogic> or a c programm
Feb 02 13:46:53 <blogic> minicom is a console, so interactive
Feb 02 13:47:07 <Danicasti> ok...
Feb 02 13:49:07 <Danicasti> I try to document on ser2net....
Feb 02 13:56:41 <Danicasti> for now the link to the serial. then try with ser2net....
Feb 02 14:08:55 <itona> Does someone want to help me in this subject: http://www.vollkornpapier.de/computer-elektronik/lastfm-player-for-fonera-2.html
Feb 02 14:08:57 <rwhitby> itona: you're looking to get bluetooth working on fon2?
Feb 02 14:09:16 <rwhitby> you need to build and install kmod-bluetooth, bluez-libs and bluez-utils
Feb 02 14:09:33 <blogic> itona: hi
Feb 02 14:09:43 <blogic> itona: not had time for BT yet
Feb 02 14:09:43 <rwhitby> then you need a usb2 hub to plug the bluetooth dongle into (since no dongle I have found, even usb2 ones, work directly plugged in)
Feb 02 14:09:52 <blogic> you want to send it to a BT headset ?
Feb 02 14:10:25 <itona> no... use a mobile as RC
Feb 02 14:10:26 <rwhitby> itona: however, I have only tested dund network access for treo650 via bluetooth on fon2.
Feb 02 14:10:39 <rwhitby> dund over rfcomm
Feb 02 14:10:39 <blogic> itona: ah ok
Feb 02 14:11:26 <itona> the device is recognized alright and the soundcard on the same hub works alright...
Feb 02 14:11:53 <blogic> itona: so you want to do rfcomm ?
Feb 02 14:12:55 <itona> i took the bt-stuff from http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openwrt/fon-ng/mips/
Feb 02 14:13:35 <itona> Hmm... i want to use the hci0 (or hci[n]) interface.
Feb 02 14:14:09 <rwhitby> itona: yes, that feed should work fine
Feb 02 14:14:25 <itona> perhaps my flash is full...
Feb 02 14:14:30 <rwhitby> itona: have you enabled things in /etc/config/bluetooth and then restarted bluez-utils?
Feb 02 14:14:55 <itona> does df -h tell me a reasonable value?
Feb 02 14:16:45 <blogic> hi CyrusFF
Feb 02 14:17:06 <CyrusFF> heyho
Feb 02 14:18:44 <rwhitby> blogic: I will try dfu-util stuff again tomorrow with flash disk attached.  Night all.
Feb 02 14:26:10 <Fred__> Wow, lot of branches in progress.
Feb 02 14:28:48 <Fred__> I read somewhere there was the posibility of using a BT dongle atteched to LF2 as and advertising device to those with BT cell phones in the surroundings
Feb 02 14:29:11 <Fred__> some sort od Bluetooth spam, he he
Feb 02 15:30:24 <barbon> oh holy crap
Feb 02 15:30:36 <blogic> ?
Feb 02 15:31:29 <barbon> nothing wrong chat
Feb 02 15:31:39 <barbon> :)
Feb 02 15:31:51 <barbon> some news?
Feb 02 15:36:34 <barbon> what about the mp3 player plugin?
Feb 02 15:36:36 <barbon> :Q_
Feb 02 15:37:20 <Danicasti> ce sta.-.... ce sta.....
Feb 02 15:38:20 <blogic> barbon: today
Feb 02 15:43:30 <iurgi> rwhitby: bought a USB-bluetooth
Feb 02 15:43:38 <iurgi> how was your development on that respect?
Feb 02 16:07:51 <barbon> Danicasti italian?
Feb 02 16:08:09 <barbon> mmm
Feb 02 16:08:17 <barbon> i have another idea for plugin fonera
Feb 02 16:08:24 <barbon> maybe make a small office application
Feb 02 16:08:32 <barbon> usable on the fonera
Feb 02 16:08:34 <barbon> :O
Feb 02 16:08:40 <barbon> can be possible?
Feb 02 16:09:35 <iurgi> office application?
Feb 02 16:09:39 <iurgi> as in openoffice?
Feb 02 16:10:01 <barbon> as it
Feb 02 16:10:03 <barbon> yea
Feb 02 16:10:09 <barbon> by web page
Feb 02 16:11:09 <barbon> using the files on the usb pen
Feb 02 16:11:59 <iurgi> well
Feb 02 16:12:05 <iurgi> what'sthe point of it?
Feb 02 16:12:17 <iurgi> I mean, don't you already ahve an office application on your laptop?
Feb 02 16:13:05 <blogic> i think if we spent time on fonoffice, martin will stick a sausgae in iurgi but :)
Feb 02 16:19:12 <barbon> i know but can be useless to write document with psp lolo
Feb 02 16:19:23 <blogic> hehe
Feb 02 16:20:34 <blogic> okokok
Feb 02 16:20:48 <blogic> guys, i am about to send a mail on the developement mailing list
Feb 02 16:20:49 <blogic> BUT
Feb 02 16:20:53 <blogic> there is a big BUT
Feb 02 16:21:09 <kazwo> you dont know the email?
Feb 02 16:21:13 <blogic> you may not bug me for the plugin, as it will take quite some work to see the when/how etc
Feb 02 16:21:30 <blogic> and i just wanted to share with you what i did on the weekend
Feb 02 16:21:35 <blogic> and it worked really well
Feb 02 16:21:43 <blogic> so, the photo is coming in 2 minutes
Feb 02 16:21:56 <kazwo> but but ... i like finding bugs :(
Feb 02 16:22:05 <blogic> nah
Feb 02 16:22:08 <blogic> its complicated
Feb 02 16:22:19 <blogic> we have to see what we actually want and how to do it best
Feb 02 16:22:30 <blogic> this puts the phone into fon :) so no trivial job
Feb 02 16:22:58 <kazwo> sounds interessting :)
Feb 02 16:23:19 <blogic> that is what martin said when i sent him the picture
Feb 02 16:27:00 <blogic> sent
Feb 02 16:28:36 <blogic> inouk: can you moderate the mailinglist ?
Feb 02 16:28:40 <blogic> the mail is too big ;(
Feb 02 16:28:46 <blogic> iurgi:  ?
Feb 02 16:28:48 <blogic> pablo_bz: ?
Feb 02 16:28:52 <blogic> anyone ?
Feb 02 16:28:56 <barbon> who?
Feb 02 16:28:59 <kazwo> me!
Feb 02 16:29:04 <inouk> yes I can
Feb 02 16:29:08 <inouk> which mail?
Feb 02 16:29:14 <iurgi> hi
Feb 02 16:29:19 <bmpeter> :)
Feb 02 16:29:26 <Danicasti> barbon: SI! E CI CONOSCIAMO...
Feb 02 16:29:37 <blogic> inouk: i just sent it
Feb 02 16:30:07 <kazwo> iurgi: you like sausages?
Feb 02 16:30:48 <iurgi> indeed
Feb 02 16:31:26 <barbon> danicasti ma sei il tipo che aveva la rete che misurava il meteo?
Feb 02 16:31:39 <Danicasti> si!
Feb 02 16:32:32 <bmpeter> blogic: mail sent for you
Feb 02 16:32:46 <blogic> bmpeter: yeah, saw it thx
Feb 02 16:32:54 <blogic> we are fixing a final bug in audiod
Feb 02 16:32:56 <bmpeter> ok
Feb 02 16:32:57 <blogic> then it should work
Feb 02 16:33:15 <bmpeter> good
Feb 02 16:48:50 <barbon> nice ^^
Feb 02 17:15:38 <barbon> bella Dani XD
Feb 02 17:15:46 <barbon> scusa ho un botto da fare
Feb 02 18:50:00 <bmpeter> i have same issue with samba under mac os x
Feb 02 18:50:57 <bmpeter> http://uploads.mibbit.com/up/5O8hgPbz.png
Feb 02 18:51:47 <bmpeter> 14.2 MB free on disk :D
Feb 02 20:28:48 <bmpeter> re
Feb 02 20:43:13 <pablo_bz> hello people
Feb 02 20:43:39 <kazwo> hi pablo_bz
Feb 02 20:44:21 <pablo_bz> probably you will find this interesting http://philosecurity.org/2009/01/12/interview-with-an-adware-author
Feb 02 20:44:25 <pablo_bz> hehehehehe
Feb 02 20:44:55 <pablo_bz> i do
Feb 02 20:45:33 <pablo_bz> more when i was during a certain period of my life hearing fallacies about computer security and malware almost every day
Feb 02 20:45:56 <pablo_bz> the first answer is the best
Feb 02 20:46:01 <pablo_bz> "I got to write half of it in Scheme, which probably means that I deployed more Scheme runtime than anybody else on the planet."
Feb 02 20:46:31 <pablo_bz> indeed. he installed scheme in more machines than nerds have existed or will exist in the infinite future
Feb 03 01:53:07 <johnrw> xMff: you still up?
Feb 03 01:56:58 <xMff> johnrw: a few minutes, currently doing some routing exercises
Feb 03 01:59:06 <johnrw> damn... 3am... well i was hoping you were asleep... but i just wanna say... that if you can tell the right Fonera person... to include usb 1.1 support... I could tell people to buy Fonera 2.0's... because I just found out the TED is a usb 1.1 device!!!!
Feb 03 01:59:51 <xMff> life sucks :(
Feb 03 01:59:58 <johnrw> 2 usb ports would be really cool... then people won't have to hunt around for usr8200's!
Feb 03 02:00:24 <johnrw> why does life suck!?
Feb 03 02:00:34 <johnrw> USB 1.1?
Feb 03 02:00:45 <xMff> just a joke ... but sometimes stuff just doesn't fit well together
Feb 03 02:01:21 <johnrw> I am amazed... at how shitty these corporations have gotten... they just don't compete to make the best shit anymore...
Feb 03 02:01:53 <johnrw> Take a look at a 1969 Corvette... now if GM would make one of those...
Feb 03 02:02:46 <johnrw> So maybe one of the guys in here has some sway... with the Fonera... design?
Feb 03 02:03:37 <johnrw> or better yet... a 1963 Corvette...
Feb 03 02:04:13 <xMff> hmm iurgi maybe. As far as I understood is the usb host is theoretical usb 1.1 capable but has some hardware glitch that lets the host controller crash when 1.1 is plugged in
Feb 03 02:04:37 <xMff> but I guess they're all asleep now :)
Feb 03 02:05:12 <johnrw> what if it's already plugged in?
Feb 03 02:05:17 <johnrw> on power up?
Feb 03 02:05:24 <johnrw> same?
Feb 03 02:05:36 <xMff> still no joy... I guess
Feb 03 02:07:06 <johnrw> well that will potentially be worse... as not all devices have what version the usb is... The ted doesn't say which... but some manufacturers make devices usb 1.1 to make sure the device is compatible with everything.
Feb 03 02:07:39 <johnrw> yeah, i know they are all asleep...
Feb 03 02:07:48 <johnrw> you should be joining them... :)
Feb 03 02:08:31 <johnrw> I noticed Linksys has a usb port on one of the 610 models...
Feb 03 02:09:07 <johnrw> ok... i gotta get the wife some pizza...
Feb 03 02:09:18 <xMff> have fun. cya later
Feb 03 02:09:27 <johnrw> have a good night's sleep
Feb 03 02:09:29 * xMff is off to sleep as well
Feb 03 02:09:37 <johnrw> g'night.
Feb 03 02:09:41 <rwhitby> no 1.1 stuff works in fon2, and some 2.0 stuff doesn't work either
Feb 03 02:09:54 <rwhitby> so you always need a 2.0 hub connected first
Feb 03 02:11:11 <johnrw> rwhitby: man....... that's no good. Why is it accepted in design?
Feb 03 02:29:36 <rwhitby> dunno
Feb 03 02:29:51 <rwhitby> 2.0 mem sticks work
Feb 03 02:30:01 <rwhitby> 2.0 bt dongle doesn't
Feb 03 02:30:32 <rwhitby> (and yes it's definitely a 2.0 usb BT dongle - I have 7 various dongles and it's the only 2.0 one)
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