**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Feb 18 02:59:57 2009
Feb 18 07:39:33 <Danicasti_> Hi! Buongiorno!
Feb 18 08:54:52 <iurgi> hi
Feb 18 08:57:56 <blogic> muahahahah
Feb 18 09:32:53 <Decodecoding> Good morning. Yesterday I tested Mr. Caterpillar in its basic features and everything seems to work OK
Feb 18 09:33:30 <blogic> Decodecoding: cool, thx
Feb 18 09:33:41 <Decodecoding> Congratulations for the app repositories. A very good idea, better than downloading the files.
Feb 18 09:36:01 <iurgi> yeah
Feb 18 09:36:02 <iurgi> thanks
Feb 18 09:36:03 <iurgi> :D
Feb 18 11:36:17 <iosonoio> anyone know how i can do a graphs cati style but with the fonera2?
Feb 18 11:36:40 <iosonoio> i can't understand how collect works :(
Feb 18 11:53:19 <Barbon> hello ^^
Feb 18 11:53:48 <Barbon> audioclip dont wanna to be installed in the latest firmware :(
Feb 18 12:04:58 <Decodecoding> I didn't try audiocli since my usb soundcard doen't even get recognized by LF2... think it is soundcard's fault
Feb 18 12:10:54 <iosonoio> wela barbon!
Feb 18 12:11:06 <iosonoio> guys anyone know how collectd works on fonera 2?
Feb 18 12:15:18 <Barbon> we sonoio
Feb 18 12:15:26 <Barbon> XD
Feb 18 12:37:45 <Barbon> raga
Feb 18 12:38:23 <Barbon> somesone know if with latest firmware (user version) if be updated in future, lost config?
Feb 18 12:47:21 <Decodecoding> Interesting question Barbon. I'd also like to somehow keep my configs tu apply them quickly after a firm update.
Feb 18 12:47:53 <Barbon> yea
Feb 18 12:51:30 <Barbon> maybe with saving config
Feb 18 12:51:47 <Barbon> or with a special partition
Feb 18 12:51:50 <Barbon> with config data
Feb 18 12:51:53 <Barbon> that fonera use
Feb 18 12:53:30 <Barbon> can be an idea? :)
Feb 18 13:58:16 <kazwo> Barbon: i think after the final release the patches will be like the f1 models. the current patch procedure is to save disk space
Feb 18 13:58:40 <Barbon> thank you Kazwo
Feb 18 15:00:15 <zen2> hi
Feb 18 15:37:57 <`g0rt> hai
Feb 18 15:48:19 <kazwo> hi there
Feb 18 16:09:42 <zen2> I need some info about the internal serial port on the Fon2
Feb 18 16:10:01 <zen2> is it possible to disable the system log and/or login console?
Feb 18 16:10:13 <zen2> (do I need to recompile the kernel for that?)
Feb 18 16:13:35 <zen2> anyone?
Feb 18 16:26:25 <kazwo> zen2: i think its posible, but how i dont know.
Feb 18 16:52:51 <zen2> just when I want to buy 3 or 4 fon 2.0 they run out of stock.... #$%"#$ !!!
Feb 18 16:53:29 <iurgi> zen2: :( sorry
Feb 18 16:53:34 <iurgi> we're bringing a few more
Feb 18 16:53:37 <iurgi> but not much
Feb 18 16:53:53 <iurgi> because we have some units left
Feb 18 16:54:10 <iurgi> but we already started with the production of the end user devices
Feb 18 16:54:12 <iurgi> ;)
Feb 18 16:54:28 <zen2> iurgi: any changes in the hw? is is any faster?
Feb 18 16:54:37 <zen2> "is is" -> "is it"
Feb 18 16:55:02 <iurgi> no changes
Feb 18 16:55:02 <iurgi> well
Feb 18 16:55:04 <iurgi> I think
Feb 18 16:55:08 <iurgi> *think*
Feb 18 16:55:15 <iurgi> we might get a faster flash chip
Feb 18 16:55:30 <iurgi> which is an improvement for flashing
Feb 18 16:55:34 <zen2> I was refering to the flash.. :)
Feb 18 16:55:34 <iurgi> but nothing else
Feb 18 16:55:36 <iurgi> or not much
Feb 18 16:56:03 <zen2> the fon is prety much perfect as it is... only the 1min boot time is a bit annoying...
Feb 18 16:56:23 <iurgi> yes
Feb 18 16:56:24 <iurgi> :(
Feb 18 16:56:28 <iurgi> brb
Feb 18 17:14:30 <RHarmsen> perhaps fon3 or 2.1 can have a faster CPU as well ?
Feb 18 17:14:59 <xMff1> I'd be happy with faster flash
Feb 18 17:17:46 <iurgi> yeah
Feb 18 17:17:48 <iurgi> it's nice
Feb 18 17:17:50 <iurgi> I have one
Feb 18 17:17:53 <iurgi> and it's a difference
Feb 18 17:20:57 <iosonoio> you have one of the new foneras?
Feb 18 17:22:01 <iurgi> :)
Feb 18 17:22:08 <iosonoio> ??
Feb 18 18:09:43 <iosonoio> iurgi?
Feb 18 18:32:27 <kazwo> iurgi has them all
Feb 18 18:39:19 <kazwo> http://www.flickr.com/photos/steampunkfrankenstein
Feb 18 18:40:26 <iurgi> iosonoio: that was a question?
Feb 18 18:40:30 <iurgi> of course I have a fonera
Feb 18 18:40:31 <iurgi> :D
Feb 18 18:40:37 <iosonoio> no no
Feb 18 18:40:41 <iosonoio> about collectd
Feb 18 18:40:43 <iosonoio> how i can setup
Feb 18 18:40:45 <iosonoio> httpd
Feb 18 18:40:47 <iosonoio> for
Feb 18 18:40:59 <iosonoio> execute per script through cgi?
Feb 18 18:41:25 <iosonoio> need i this?
Feb 18 18:41:27 <iosonoio> http://ipkg.nslu2-linux.org/feeds/openwrt/fon-ng/mips/perl-www_5.812-1_mips.ipk
Feb 18 18:42:57 <CyrusFF> kazwo: steampunk is just strange
Feb 18 18:44:41 <iosonoio> so?
Feb 18 18:47:11 <Barbon> ciao :)
Feb 18 18:47:13 <iurgi> collectd? no idea what it is
Feb 18 18:47:16 <iurgi> ciao
Feb 18 18:47:56 <Barbon> iurgi the currently audioclip plugin dont work with catepilar :(
Feb 18 18:48:41 <iosonoio> ok thanks
Feb 18 18:53:01 <Barbon> any idea when it be updated?
Feb 18 18:53:57 <kazwo> write a trac ticked and the blogic dev bot will fix it soon :D
Feb 18 18:54:01 <iosonoio> guys
Feb 18 18:54:05 <iosonoio> anyone know
Feb 18 18:54:10 <iosonoio> how i can do
Feb 18 18:54:39 <iosonoio> for get works a package
Feb 18 18:54:44 <iosonoio> installed on the usb pendrive
Feb 18 18:54:55 <iosonoio> without every time do the symbolic links?
Feb 18 18:55:21 <kazwo> dont know sorry
Feb 18 18:55:25 <iosonoio> ok
Feb 18 18:57:21 <iurgi> Barbon: today
Feb 18 18:57:30 <iurgi> noq
Feb 18 18:57:31 <iurgi> now
Feb 18 18:57:35 <iurgi> I just forgot about it
Feb 18 18:57:37 <iurgi> :)
Feb 18 18:57:44 <iurgi> I haven't tested it but blogic did
Feb 18 18:57:50 <iurgi> so I expect it to work
Feb 18 18:58:28 <kazwo> iosonoio: maybe rwhitby knows it
Feb 18 18:58:53 <Barbon> ty urgi ^^
Feb 18 18:59:01 <iosonoio> ok i'll wait for him :)
Feb 18 18:59:52 <Barbon> another question fonera plugin page is connected to plugin database and it update automatly?
Feb 18 19:00:04 <iurgi> yes
Feb 18 19:00:08 <iurgi> you'll see ;)
Feb 18 19:01:13 <Barbon> so if you add a new plugin i see it at my firmware page?
Feb 18 19:01:58 <iurgi> try now
Feb 18 19:02:01 <iurgi> go to your plugin page
Feb 18 19:02:23 <iurgi> should be working already
Feb 18 19:02:25 <kazwo>  audiocli_0.2_fonera2_unsigned.tar.gz 18-feb-2009 19:00  304K
Feb 18 19:02:27 <kazwo> :)
Feb 18 19:03:06 <iurgi> :)
Feb 18 19:05:00 <iurgi> Barbon: so?
Feb 18 19:05:12 * iurgi is leaving
Feb 18 19:05:15 <iurgi> hope it works
Feb 18 19:05:58 <Barbon> i try
Feb 18 19:06:11 <iurgi> do you see it in the interface?
Feb 18 19:06:17 <Barbon> Nome  	Versione  	Provider  	Dimesione  	
Feb 18 19:06:19 <Barbon> ddns	1.1 	fon 	0.00 B	
Feb 18 19:06:21 <Barbon> olpc	1.0 	fon 	0.00 B	
Feb 18 19:06:22 <Barbon> printer	1.0 	fon 	0.00 B	
Feb 18 19:06:24 <Barbon> webcam	1.0 	fon 	0.00 B	
Feb 18 19:06:26 <Barbon> nope
Feb 18 19:06:30 <iurgi> ??
Feb 18 19:06:33 <iurgi> ha
Feb 18 19:06:38 <iurgi> you have the end user image
Feb 18 19:06:40 <iurgi> !!!
Feb 18 19:06:45 <iurgi> why did you flash with it?
Feb 18 19:06:48 <iurgi> oh god...
Feb 18 19:06:56 <Barbon> i dont need ssh? xD
Feb 18 19:06:58 <iurgi> audioocli only works on the developer version
Feb 18 19:07:01 <iurgi> XD
Feb 18 19:07:02 <iurgi> sorry
Feb 18 19:07:02 <Barbon> omg
Feb 18 19:07:07 <iurgi> audiocli is not stable yet
Feb 18 19:07:10 <kazwo> Installierte Plugins    Name   Version   Anbieter   Größe
Feb 18 19:07:10 <kazwo> audiocli 0.2  unsigned  0.00 B
Feb 18 19:07:18 <iurgi> kazwo: :D
Feb 18 19:07:27 <Barbon> how i can install it? ç_ç
Feb 18 19:07:32 <iurgi> Barbon: need to leave know... I'll try to help you with that tomorro
Feb 18 19:07:32 <iurgi> w
Feb 18 19:07:42 <Barbon> ok
Feb 18 19:07:45 <Barbon> thank you
Feb 18 19:07:48 <Barbon> ^^
Feb 18 19:07:56 <iurgi> ciao
Feb 18 19:08:13 <kazwo> Barbon: use this plugin file: http://download.fonosfera.org/plugins/audiocli_0.2_fonera2_unsigned.tar.gz
Feb 18 19:09:50 <Barbon> ok
Feb 18 19:09:53 <CyrusFF> its not signed so it will probably not work
Feb 18 19:10:22 <Barbon> Verifica del plugin fallita.
Feb 18 19:10:26 <Barbon> failed :(
Feb 18 19:10:32 <CyrusFF> thats what i meant
Feb 18 19:10:33 <kazwo> hm :/
Feb 18 19:11:49 <kazwo> i think you need the dev firmware
Feb 18 19:12:15 <CyrusFF> or a uart connection :-P
Feb 18 19:13:40 <Barbon> there is a way to return to dev firm?
Feb 18 19:13:52 <Barbon> or i need to format all?
Feb 18 19:14:34 <CyrusFF> maybe this: http://download.fonosfera.org/Caterpillar/20090217_FON2202_2.2.3.0_Caterpillar_developers.tar.gz but i don't know if its signed
Feb 18 20:15:26 <iosonoio> how i can restart
Feb 18 20:15:31 <iosonoio> httpd server?
Feb 18 20:55:24 <will_d_j> hi guys.
Feb 18 20:55:35 <will_d_j> I got my FOn 2 last night, and put Caterpillar on it.
Feb 18 20:57:15 <will_d_j> my USB sound card doesn't work though - it's one of these: http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/USB-2-0-3D-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-5-1-Ch-Mic-Speaker_W0QQitemZ250374533329QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Computing_ComputerComponents_SoundCards?hash=item250374533329&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1690%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318
Feb 18 20:58:27 <will_d_j> alsmo, more worryingly, the www files on the Fon seemed to have got deleted between reboots, so I've now got a non-functional web interface!
Feb 18 21:09:52 <iosonoio> guys cgi scripts works on lucittpd
Feb 18 21:09:53 <iosonoio> ?
Feb 18 21:16:16 <pablo_bz> iosonio?
Feb 18 21:31:16 <iosonoio> yes?
Feb 18 21:32:02 <willdj> I have some problems with catapillar firmware - anyone available to discuss with me?
Feb 18 21:38:30 <willdj> hi anyone available to talk about problems I've had with caterpillar firmware? Like WWW directory disappearing.
Feb 18 22:12:11 <Barbon> hey
Feb 18 22:12:27 <Barbon> fixed my problem about firmware ^^
Feb 18 22:14:19 <Barbon> weilà iosonooio
Feb 18 22:14:27 <Barbon> iosonoio
Feb 18 22:14:28 <Barbon> xD
Feb 18 22:15:47 <iosonoio> wewe
Feb 18 22:16:35 <iosonoio> sera
Feb 18 22:26:43 <will_d_j> any ideas why I have no www data on a newly flashed Fon 2?
Feb 18 22:27:12 <will_d_j> error message on the fon web interface: No such file: /www/cgi-bin/status.sh
Feb 18 22:28:08 <xMff> will_d_j: did you tried to access the base url?
Feb 18 22:28:13 <xMff> (http://ip)
Feb 18 22:28:35 <xMff> the urls have changed, and yes, there's almost nothing in /www anymore
Feb 18 22:30:24 <will_d_j> Yes, and there's nothing in there - I get the redirect to the status page - what's happened to all the green GUI screens?
Feb 18 22:30:50 <will_d_j> It was working last night, and not it is not, Have reflahsed caterpillar, and also just tried oktopussy, but nothing in the ww directory anymow
Feb 18 22:31:16 <xMff> will_d_j: have you tried to clear your browser cache?
Feb 18 22:31:27 <xMff> otherwise it will redirect you to a nonexistant page forever
Feb 18 22:32:28 <will_d_j> aaahhhhhhhh! that fixed it! Doh - I think I'll put something in the wiki for that!
Feb 18 22:33:11 <will_d_j> just wasted over an hour on that!
Feb 18 22:33:40 <will_d_j> also - SSH doesn't work until I do a hard reboot - did you know that?
Feb 18 22:34:42 <xMff> it's a know problem... even mentioned in the wiki afaik... on first boot, ssh is busy generating hostkeys, since it takes so long, dropbear is started with no certs available and it will "crash" ... wait a bit and reboot, on next boot dropbear will come up cleanly because the certs are ready
Feb 18 22:36:35 <will_d_j> ahhhh - I was wondering if it was a certs thing.
Feb 18 22:36:40 <will_d_j> thanks.
Feb 18 22:36:58 <will_d_j> Another coomment - I tried my Huawei E156G 3G modem.
Feb 18 22:37:15 <will_d_j> It connects ok - and an IP address is reported in the Fon GUI
Feb 18 22:37:51 <will_d_j> but if I try to visit any websites, the fon redirects me to an error page about my network settings not being correct
Feb 18 22:38:08 <will_d_j> but if I go to edit them it says they're not relevant when using 3G modemn.
Feb 18 22:39:34 <will_d_j> finally - I bought a cheap USB soundcard from Ebay, but I don't think it works. Have noted it on the wiki compatibility pages
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