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Feb 26 07:39:31 <Danicasti_> Hi!
Feb 26 08:42:50 <Szilard> aloha
Feb 26 09:50:13 <Szilard> hey, any1 here?
Feb 26 09:50:27 <Szilard> can someone help me?
Feb 26 09:50:37 <Szilard> I ordered a fonera2.0b
Feb 26 09:50:44 <Szilard> and I want to register it
Feb 26 09:51:15 <Szilard> connected via utp, entered to 192.168.10.1, clicked to Register
Feb 26 09:51:37 <Szilard> logged in with my fon user&pass
Feb 26 09:51:54 <Szilard> but not the registering page appears, only the userzone
Feb 26 09:52:04 <Szilard> with my old routers
Feb 26 09:52:07 <Szilard> so what?
Feb 26 10:01:04 <Szilard> ok, it worked with the old method - fon public singal and wifi.fon.com
Feb 26 10:01:52 <blogic> Szilard: ok
Feb 26 10:10:03 <iurgi> Szilard: I think you need to upgrae the firmware so it works from the gui
Feb 26 10:10:18 <iurgi> on the default firmware, it doesn't work imho
Feb 26 10:10:34 <iurgi> in any case... did you upgrade your firmware? it's important to do so :)
Feb 26 10:11:26 <Szilard> no
Feb 26 10:11:32 <Szilard> i'll do it now
Feb 26 10:11:41 <iurgi> yeah, you'd better :)
Feb 26 10:11:47 <Szilard> :)
Feb 26 10:11:48 <iurgi> I suggest you do it from ssh
Feb 26 10:11:54 <iurgi> can you connect to ssh?
Feb 26 10:13:02 <Szilard> yes
Feb 26 10:13:06 <iurgi> ok
Feb 26 10:13:16 <iurgi> you know how to do it? or want some advise?
Feb 26 10:13:38 <Szilard> v2.0.1.1 on it
Feb 26 10:13:54 <iurgi> you need 2.2.3.0
Feb 26 10:13:55 <iurgi> :)
Feb 26 10:13:58 <Szilard> no, can u help me?
Feb 26 10:14:01 <iurgi> sure
Feb 26 10:14:10 <iurgi> it's easy
Feb 26 10:14:18 <iurgi> are you already connected through sh?
Feb 26 10:14:21 <Szilard> yes
Feb 26 12:49:48 <Szilard> is it possible to share the pluged printer as an smb share, like appears in Printers and Faxes?
Feb 26 12:52:09 <blogic> Szilard: in theory yes
Feb 26 12:52:17 <blogic> Szilard: we have not had time to look at that yet
Feb 26 12:52:39 <Szilard> okay, thanks
Feb 26 12:52:50 <blogic> Szilard: it will happen, but not next week
Feb 26 12:52:58 <Szilard> :)
Feb 26 13:03:08 <Decodecoding> Hi all!
Feb 26 13:03:27 <Szilard> hi Decodecoding
Feb 26 13:05:13 <Decodecoding> Today I'm changing my buggy Linksys wired router behind my cable modem, for La Fonera 2
Feb 26 13:05:37 <Decodecoding> I hope LF2  will do the job
Feb 26 13:05:43 <blogic> Decodecoding: it does for me :)
Feb 26 13:05:45 <blogic> i love it
Feb 26 13:05:56 <blogic> see, my actual dsl is unstable
Feb 26 13:06:01 <blogic> and sometimes times out
Feb 26 13:06:16 <blogic> this is not a problem of the router but the actual cabeling coming into my flat is crappy
Feb 26 13:06:17 <Decodecoding> I have the Linksys BFSR41 which looses connection from time to time
Feb 26 13:06:24 <Decodecoding> I'm fed up
Feb 26 13:06:28 <blogic> normal off the self routers take up to 10 minutes to recover
Feb 26 13:06:39 <blogic> the LF2 does it in 1 minute
Feb 26 13:07:02 <blogic> yes, i know the loose connex problem :)
Feb 26 13:07:08 <blogic> the LF2 will solve the problem
Feb 26 13:07:13 <Decodecoding> It is a well known problem
Feb 26 13:08:11 <Decodecoding> One less device on my desktoop. Less power consumption
Feb 26 13:08:51 <Decodecoding> Now I'll have to trus on dyn-dns pluggin and LF2 port forwarding
Feb 26 13:09:18 <blogic> works well
Feb 26 13:09:27 <blogic> Decodecoding: and if you find a bug, tell me and i will fix it :)
Feb 26 13:11:06 <Decodecoding> Sure. From now on, I depend on LF2
Feb 26 13:12:50 <blogic> haha
Feb 26 13:12:51 <blogic> good
Feb 26 13:13:02 <blogic> i made the software, so you should be safe :)
Feb 26 13:13:39 <Decodecoding> ha ha
Feb 26 13:14:50 <Decodecoding> blogic. Any progress on the Vista-crap issue with smb servers? Is it a lost case?
Feb 26 13:15:11 <blogic> we will fix it
Feb 26 13:15:16 <blogic> not sure how, but we will
Feb 26 13:15:27 <blogic> i wil start by getting a viszta cd
Feb 26 13:15:31 <blogic> so i can test it myself
Feb 26 13:15:45 <Decodecoding> I'm not sure, but I think I read on the boards some guys having trouble with Leopard
Feb 26 13:16:04 <Decodecoding> ha ha, don't tell me you'll buy it
Feb 26 13:18:06 <blogic> Decodecoding: i have a friend with lepoard
Feb 26 13:18:09 <blogic> :)
Feb 26 13:18:38 <Decodecoding> I meant buying Vista....  :/
Feb 26 16:52:39 <Fonera257> Hi
Feb 26 16:52:46 <Fonera257> is there someone ?
Feb 26 16:52:59 <blogic> yes
Feb 26 16:53:01 <blogic> hi
Feb 26 16:53:19 <Fonera257> I want to buy a webcam for my la Fonera 2.0
Feb 26 16:53:34 <Fonera257> What is the cheapest ? For exemple on ebay
Feb 26 16:55:23 <blogic> logitech E3500 works
Feb 26 16:55:28 <blogic> that is the only one i have
Feb 26 16:56:00 * popey wonders what is coming soon :)
Feb 26 16:56:38 <Fonera257> something less expensive ?
Feb 26 16:57:04 <blogic> popey: 2 cool new plugins and an update to the mp3 plugin
Feb 26 16:57:06 <blogic> and
Feb 26 16:57:19 <popey> plugins, what is this of plugins? :)
Feb 26 16:57:20 <blogic> a new image with lots of fixes, cleanups and nice new stuff
Feb 26 16:57:28 <popey> I just have some fons sat in my house and thats it
Feb 26 16:57:30 <blogic> the torrent and youtube
Feb 26 16:57:54 <blogic> and audio is getting a gui to remotely manage playlists
Feb 26 16:57:58 <blogic> and play files
Feb 26 16:58:00 <popey> i appear to have missed some announcements
Feb 26 16:58:01 <blogic> etc
Feb 26 16:58:05 <blogic> o
Feb 26 16:58:06 <blogic> no
Feb 26 16:58:13 <blogic> i just made the announcement
Feb 26 16:58:14 <blogic> :)
Feb 26 16:58:17 <popey> :)
Feb 26 16:58:34 <blogic> so
Feb 26 16:58:42 <blogic> the image now has a wizard when you start it up
Feb 26 16:58:53 <blogic> and we have a help feature
Feb 26 16:59:07 <blogic> and we have annoying popups that bug
Feb 26 16:59:09 <popey> sorry, i have no idea what a fonera2 is, I'm that far behind
Feb 26 16:59:15 <popey> new device?
Feb 26 16:59:19 <blogic> ah ok
Feb 26 16:59:23 <blogic> yes
Feb 26 16:59:28 <popey> i just have two of the old white foneras
Feb 26 16:59:32 <blogic> it is like a fon+ but with usb
Feb 26 16:59:46 <blogic> and you can atatch usb discs to it
Feb 26 16:59:48 <blogic> and play music
Feb 26 16:59:50 <blogic> etc etc
Feb 26 17:00:06 <blogic> and attach printers, webcams, sound cards, umts modems
Feb 26 17:00:06 <popey> nice
Feb 26 17:00:34 <Fonera257> Can someone explain if I can use emule on la FL2 ?
Feb 26 17:00:53 <popey> and in addition it's still a normal fon under the hood?
Feb 26 17:01:05 <popey> i.e. it still shares your connection out?
Feb 26 17:01:19 <blogic> yes
Feb 26 17:01:22 <blogic> of course
Feb 26 17:01:24 <xMff> Fonera257: amuled might work but it's too big for the internal flash, so you need to install it on external media (usbstick)
Feb 26 17:01:34 <popey> got a url or pictures?
Feb 26 17:01:44 <popey> i like the sound of this
Feb 26 17:01:45 <blogic> popey: we made 1000 units and gave them to developers
Feb 26 17:01:47 <popey> wifey might not
Feb 26 17:01:54 <popey> thats very cool
Feb 26 17:01:55 <blogic> popey: 1 sec
Feb 26 17:02:02 <blogic> check youtube for fonera2
Feb 26 17:02:04 <blogic> :)
Feb 26 17:02:08 <popey> :)
Feb 26 17:02:19 <Fonera257> How can I install it ?
Feb 26 17:02:36 <xMff> Fonera257: no package for that afaik, you need to compile it yourself
Feb 26 17:03:11 <blogic> Fonera257: there is a howto in the wiki
Feb 26 17:03:30 <Fonera257> Yes I've found it but isn't clear
Feb 26 17:14:26 <volker> i´ just looking at the audiocli plugin
Feb 26 17:14:36 <volker> do you have a list of compatible devices?
Feb 26 17:15:36 <blogic> volker: basically all devices are compatible
Feb 26 17:15:45 <blogic> sound cards are like mice and keyboards, they just work
Feb 26 17:15:59 <volker> okay, perfect
Feb 26 17:15:59 <blogic> unless you buy a mega 23.5 sound system
Feb 26 17:16:10 <blogic> which need sextra drivers to get the 100 speaker working
Feb 26 17:16:15 <blogic> mine is 3 euros
Feb 26 17:16:32 <blogic> volker: the audiocli is work in progress
Feb 26 17:16:40 <volker> mine is a terratec aureonDualUSB
Feb 26 17:16:48 <volker> ist pretty nice
Feb 26 17:16:48 <blogic> the following features are working but the gui is still not complete
Feb 26 17:16:55 <volker> definitly more than 3€
Feb 26 17:16:57 <blogic> * m3u playlists
Feb 26 17:17:07 <blogic> * control via webgui
Feb 26 17:17:17 <blogic> * osx/win/linux gui to remote control it
Feb 26 17:17:32 <blogic> this gui is currently getting support for remotely editing playlists
Feb 26 17:17:46 <blogic> * it will be usable as a source for itunes
Feb 26 17:17:51 <blogic> so itunes can stream from it
Feb 26 17:18:03 <blogic> that will be in the next release imho
Feb 26 17:18:06 <blogic> and then ...
Feb 26 17:18:10 <CyrusFF> volker: i have the aureon mkII 5.1 works fine
Feb 26 17:18:28 <blogic> we will add a feature, that hijacks sound on your pc, and streams it to the fon. so you get wirelss speakers
Feb 26 17:25:57 <Szilard> does spca5xx module installed to LF2 ?
Feb 26 17:26:08 <blogic>                                                 
Feb 26 17:26:10 <blogic> urghs
Feb 26 17:27:08 <Szilard> i have a genius videcam messenger cam
Feb 26 17:27:46 <Szilard> i will try it tomorrow
Feb 26 17:28:09 <Szilard> it isn' on the compatibility list
Feb 26 17:29:11 <Szilard> t
Feb 26 17:33:09 <Szilard> hehe
Feb 26 17:33:19 <Szilard> have you seen the newsletter?
Feb 26 17:34:19 <Szilard> the promo code is the same
Feb 26 17:34:28 <Szilard> in every mail
Feb 26 17:35:02 <Szilard> ?
Feb 26 17:38:49 <falko> Updating with the webinterface, "The Power light will go from non-blinking ORANGE to GREEN/ORAGE flashing to ORANGE again, be patient."
Feb 26 17:38:50 <falko>  does that mean that it is done when flashing Orange?
Feb 26 17:39:46 <falko> i don´t wanna brick my fonera
Feb 26 17:41:44 <blogic> falko: how long did you wait ?
Feb 26 17:41:51 <blogic> 30 minutes should be safe
Feb 26 17:46:05 <falko> definitly that or longer
Feb 26 17:46:42 <falko> should i disconnect it and connect it again?
Feb 26 17:47:40 <blogic> well
Feb 26 17:47:50 <blogic> do you have dhcp in your network?
Feb 26 17:48:11 <falko> nope
Feb 26 17:48:13 <blogic> if you attach the fons wan port to the network the power led will go green if it gets an ip and all is good
Feb 26 17:48:16 <blogic> ah ok
Feb 26 17:48:16 <falko> and no wireless as well
Feb 26 17:48:21 <blogic> haha
Feb 26 17:48:23 <blogic> ok ok
Feb 26 17:52:28 <iurgi> hi falko
Feb 26 17:52:35 <falko> i think it is working again
Feb 26 17:52:43 <falko> hi iurgi ;)
Feb 26 18:00:19 <falko> I now have a wireless network "FON_ATENTION_PEASE"
Feb 26 18:00:32 <blogic> ok
Feb 26 18:00:38 <blogic> that is failsafe mode
Feb 26 18:00:44 <blogic> you di dnot wait long enough :)
Feb 26 18:01:01 <falko> damn
Feb 26 18:01:08 <falko> i waited like 45 minutes
Feb 26 18:01:16 <blogic> hmmz
Feb 26 18:01:22 <blogic> how did you flash it ?
Feb 26 18:01:24 <blogic> redboot ?
Feb 26 18:01:32 <falko> with the webinterface
Feb 26 18:01:40 <blogic> ah
Feb 26 18:01:47 <blogic> from which firmware version to which ?
Feb 26 18:01:49 <blogic> i mean
Feb 26 18:01:54 <blogic> have you flashed it before ?
Feb 26 18:01:57 <falko> to tantor
Feb 26 18:02:01 <blogic> hmm
Feb 26 18:02:04 <falko> yes i have flashed before
Feb 26 18:02:09 <iurgi> weird
Feb 26 18:02:12 <falko> the first update was on
Feb 26 18:02:15 <falko> i think
Feb 26 18:02:32 <falko> unless it forgot it´s firmware in the last 1,5 month
Feb 26 18:04:38 <falko> the last update was this one; http://www.volkersfreunde.de/lafonera20-preview/
Feb 26 18:05:09 <falko> if i connext it asks me for a login when i try to access any website
Feb 26 18:05:19 <falko> but admin admin doesn´t work
Feb 26 18:06:13 <blogic> root/admin
Feb 26 18:08:16 <m_tadeu_> hi all
Feb 26 18:10:00 <m_tadeu_> I've been checking la fonera 2 and I have a question about connecting a usb disk and privacy
Feb 26 18:10:29 <m_tadeu_> how will it be made available? only for the private network?
Feb 26 18:10:52 <blogic> yes
Feb 26 18:10:58 <blogic> and if you have the password
Feb 26 18:11:17 <m_tadeu_> is it samba?
Feb 26 18:11:19 <iurgi> falko: root/serial No
Feb 26 18:11:33 <blogic> m_tadeu_: samba and ftp
Feb 26 18:11:51 <iurgi> falko: but it won't work to reflash from there, you need to use redboot
Feb 26 18:12:01 <m_tadeu_> nice :) is there a schedule for the release?
Feb 26 18:12:33 <iurgi> what releasE?
Feb 26 18:12:53 <m_tadeu_> for la fonera 2
Feb 26 18:13:29 <iurgi> m_tadeu_: for the production release?
Feb 26 18:14:03 <m_tadeu_> yes....I guess la fonera 1 doesn't have a usb port, am I right?
Feb 26 18:14:17 <iurgi> m_tadeu_: yes, you are
Feb 26 18:14:27 <iurgi> but we already release a fonera 2.0
Feb 26 18:14:41 <iurgi> that's why I was asking what release you are asking about :)
Feb 26 18:15:13 <m_tadeu_> iurgi: oh...I only checked  la fonera and la fonera+ on the online shop
Feb 26 18:15:31 <iurgi> ah, yes
Feb 26 18:15:40 <iurgi> we run out of the fonera 2.0
Feb 26 18:15:58 <iurgi> we will put a few more in the shop in a few days
Feb 26 18:16:06 <iurgi> so, if you want one, stay tuned
Feb 26 18:16:18 <m_tadeu_> iurgi: I will :)
Feb 26 18:16:30 <iurgi> after these few more run out, we won't have them until the next production arrives
Feb 26 18:16:40 <iurgi> in about 4 weeks
Feb 26 18:17:03 <m_tadeu_> I have another question....if I connect ls fonera to a router, do I have to have any security precautions?
Feb 26 18:17:20 <iurgi> hmmm
Feb 26 18:17:21 <iurgi> no
Feb 26 18:17:41 <iurgi> the fonera will prevent users on the public signal to connect to your local network
Feb 26 18:18:39 <m_tadeu_> ahh cool :)
Feb 26 18:21:30 <m_tadeu_> another question about the usb storage....will the disks get into sleep mode?
Feb 26 18:22:08 <m_tadeu_> talking about sata disks with usb interface
Feb 26 18:23:03 <iurgi> m_tadeu_: disks are unmounted (extracted) after 1min of inactivity
Feb 26 18:24:51 <m_tadeu_> iurgi: will they be mounted automaticaly? or do I have to reconnect the usb plug?
Feb 26 18:25:48 <iurgi> they are mounted anytime an application tries to access them
Feb 26 18:27:59 <m_tadeu_> iurgi: niceee....so if I want to make a network storage that is a good way to do it, right?
Feb 26 18:31:31 <zen2> hi
Feb 26 19:53:33 <kazwo> yeha
Feb 26 19:54:49 <blogic> hi kazwo
Feb 26 19:58:08 <kazwo> a wiki contest :o
Feb 26 19:58:37 <blogic> ?
Feb 26 19:58:39 <blogic> :)
Feb 26 19:58:40 <blogic> ah yes
Feb 26 20:10:55 <Lorvija> Hey! Could I run irc bouncer on la fonera 2.0?
Feb 26 20:11:33 <kazwo> should be posible
Feb 26 20:11:57 <Lorvija> Okay great (:
Feb 26 20:12:37 <Lorvija> Has there been any rumours about more powerful la fonera coming in future?
Feb 26 20:15:51 <kazwo> the information was classified as secret
Feb 26 20:16:30 <blogic> Lorvija: yes, there will be :)
Feb 26 20:17:01 <Lorvija> Any idea when that will be? weeks, months, years? (:
Feb 26 20:17:25 <blogic> months
Feb 26 20:17:39 <blogic> the fonera20 will be launched in weeks
Feb 26 20:17:45 <blogic> the follow up in months
Feb 26 20:18:00 <Lorvija> okay.. So propably it will be in autumn if not later
Feb 26 20:18:37 <Lorvija> Ow well.. I'll need one in June so have to see then what's up =)
Feb 26 20:18:56 <blogic> ok
Feb 26 20:19:07 <blogic> the firmware will be almost the same
Feb 26 20:19:14 <blogic> just supporting some extra features
Feb 26 20:19:43 <Lorvija> Okay.. I'm mostly interested about more ram etc.. So it could run some more stuff (: and also support for wlan N would be nice (:
Feb 26 20:20:11 <Lorvija> I've been looking for something like that for some time.. So wouldn't need to keep my server running..
Feb 26 20:21:33 <blogic> Lorvija: that is the idea
Feb 26 20:21:51 <Lorvija> You happen to know of any other similar devices which would be more powerful?
Feb 26 20:22:14 <blogic> nope
Feb 26 20:22:19 <blogic> not at this price
Feb 26 20:23:00 <Lorvija> Hmm what price will it be anyways
Feb 26 20:23:00 <Lorvija> ?
Feb 26 20:23:12 <blogic> no idea
Feb 26 20:23:23 <blogic> but the next comparable device is like 100$
Feb 26 20:23:37 <blogic> so, the fon20 is cheaper at any cost
Feb 26 20:23:41 <Lorvija> Yeah... But I'll happily pay that amount if that buys me peace and quietness =)
Feb 26 20:24:05 <blogic> haha
Feb 26 20:24:25 <blogic> the thing is, you wont get the software on the othe rdevice :)
Feb 26 20:24:47 <Lorvija> Yeah.. (:
Feb 26 20:24:59 <Lorvija> Though that kind of hardware genre is kinda growing atm
Feb 26 20:26:04 <blogic> yep
Feb 26 20:26:23 <Lorvija> Hmm I wonder if that could run lighttpd and php :P
Feb 26 20:26:39 <blogic> Lorvija: yes, if you attach a usb dik
Feb 26 20:26:41 <blogic> Lorvija: yes, if you attach a usb disk
Feb 26 20:26:46 <blogic> haha, nice typo
Feb 26 20:26:55 <Lorvija> :D
Feb 26 20:27:09 <Lorvija> Really? would that memory be enough?
Feb 26 20:27:39 <blogic> yes, easy
Feb 26 20:27:50 <blogic> you could even run sqllite
Feb 26 20:28:02 <Lorvija> But I think mysql would choke it =)
Feb 26 20:28:12 <blogic> yes
Feb 26 20:28:13 <blogic> well
Feb 26 20:28:21 <blogic> you can use your servers mysql :)
Feb 26 20:28:35 <Lorvija> Well if I get that thing I'll sell my server (:
Feb 26 20:29:03 <Lorvija> Only thing it seems to be missing atm is raid...
Feb 26 20:30:04 <kazwo> usb raid :D
Feb 26 20:30:16 <Lorvija> ? =)
Feb 26 21:34:19 <Decodecoding> Anybody in the room?
Feb 26 21:34:50 <blogic> yes
Feb 26 21:35:35 <Decodecoding> I have a question aboyt the DynDNS plugin
Feb 26 21:35:49 <blogic> ok
Feb 26 21:35:57 <Decodecoding> I don't know what ti fill in the DNS field
Feb 26 21:36:02 <blogic> ok
Feb 26 21:36:06 <Decodecoding> I filled user and password
Feb 26 21:36:08 <blogic> do oyu have a dyndns account ?
Feb 26 21:36:10 <Decodecoding> but DNS?
Feb 26 21:36:14 <Decodecoding> yes I do
Feb 26 21:36:27 <blogic> what url did you setup ?
Feb 26 21:36:36 <blogic> what is the dns you registered ?
Feb 26 21:36:47 <Decodecoding> aha
Feb 26 21:36:52 <Decodecoding> I see
Feb 26 21:37:13 <blogic> ok :)
Feb 26 21:37:13 <Decodecoding> myname.homedns.org
Feb 26 21:37:19 <Decodecoding> Thanks blogic
Feb 26 21:37:23 <blogic> sure
Feb 26 21:37:24 <blogic> :)
Feb 26 21:37:43 <blogic> and, when you have set it up, it takes abou 10 - 20 minutes until all dns servers know it
Feb 26 21:37:51 <Decodecoding> I see
Feb 26 21:57:32 <Decodecoding> Well, LF2 is now my main router
Feb 26 21:57:46 <Decodecoding> Is already set up
Feb 26 21:58:23 <blogic> cool
Feb 26 21:59:21 <Decodecoding> router and ftp server wich I use in a daily basis
Feb 26 22:06:54 <Decodecoding> Any new release on the horizon? :P
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