**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Mar 12 02:59:56 2009 Mar 12 07:16:30 it's a me, kazwo! Mar 12 08:00:00 nbd: in the upgrade script, you should set the power light to blinking when writing the image, and then set it back to solid green once the write is done Mar 12 08:08:07 Hi! Buongiorno! Oggi c'è il sole! Mar 12 09:35:36 phaidros: interesting Mar 12 09:43:40 * Decodecoding[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes Mar 12 09:44:22 BLogic, finally I bought the webcam you recomended Mar 12 09:44:33 It works like a charm Mar 12 09:45:07 i know Mar 12 09:45:08 :) Mar 12 09:47:18 I installed it on my window sill so I can see my small garden at home from work :-D Only improvement I'd suggest is a plublic mini site to show it without revealing the Fonera root password Mar 12 09:47:50 Decodecoding[A]: ok Mar 12 09:47:52 good idea Mar 12 09:47:57 let me think of a solution Mar 12 09:48:06 #maybe run a second webserver on a different port Mar 12 09:48:20 Could be... Mar 12 10:37:32 lalalala Mar 12 10:37:34 boring Mar 12 10:38:55 kazwo, you could develop somethin for this: http://twitxr.com/fonero/updates/172223/ :-D Mar 12 10:39:42 woot! Mar 12 10:39:55 Looks refreshing :-D Mar 12 10:40:04 :-d Mar 12 10:40:16 hahahaha Mar 12 10:40:28 I got this link from skynetbbs Mar 12 10:40:36 http://www.hak5.org/pineapple Mar 12 10:40:47 and that's where the twitxr post comes from Mar 12 10:41:39 I'm testing at home with solar panels and a Fonera 2100 Mar 12 10:41:55 really? Mar 12 10:42:23 The price for a commissioned WiFi Pineapple is $144 :) Mar 12 10:42:23 Yeah. Still need to much panel surface to suply enogh power Mar 12 10:43:09 :-| 144$ Mar 12 11:23:34 hello Mar 12 11:25:21 hi Mar 12 11:36:24 hi Mar 12 12:33:14 blogic, iurgi: I'm getting a kernel oops (Unhandled kernel unaligned access) when I plug in a usb bluetooth dongle. Mar 12 12:33:21 Makes bluetooth unusable on a fon2. Mar 12 12:34:13 The weird thing is that it's khubd which is the process which is reported in the stack trace. Mar 12 12:35:22 ops Mar 12 12:35:31 rwhitby: we will have a sor tof final image on monday Mar 12 12:35:39 then i will have time to look into the BT issues Mar 12 12:36:15 blogic: is there likely to be any difference in the kernel between fon kernel and 8.09 kernel? Mar 12 12:36:21 (i.e. should I try 8.09 instead?) Mar 12 12:36:39 8.09 is .27 imho Mar 12 12:36:41 we use .26 Mar 12 12:37:10 I'm going on a business trip to Japan, and I need something which will convert a single wired ethernet in the hotel to both wifi and bluetooth for my n800 and treo 650. Mar 12 12:37:55 trouble is that there are no working bluetooth dongles for a fon2, and there are no working AP USB wifi dongles for an NSLU2 ... Mar 12 12:37:57 8.09 does not have .27 Mar 12 12:38:16 only trunk has .27 Mar 12 12:39:20 is fon2 kernel significantly different from 8.09 kernel, especially around usb or bluetooth config? Mar 12 12:39:28 pe Mar 12 12:39:39 we have mainly hotplug and led fixes Mar 12 12:39:51 and 2-3 kernel bug fixes that we backported from git head and .28 Mar 12 12:40:22 so it's likely 8.09 will fail on the fon2 hardware as well then. Mar 12 12:40:44 not sure Mar 12 12:40:46 no idea Mar 12 12:41:00 i didn't know there were backported kernel fixes Mar 12 12:41:07 otherwise i would have merged them into openwrt Mar 12 12:41:16 nbd: they are new Mar 12 12:41:18 ah Mar 12 12:41:22 splice on mips has a bug Mar 12 12:41:27 thatr is fixed in .28 Mar 12 12:41:29 and ... Mar 12 12:41:31 another one Mar 12 12:41:35 which i cannot remebr Mar 12 12:41:42 one is .28 the other .29 Mar 12 12:41:50 both affect syscalls on mips Mar 12 12:41:56 cyrus merged them last week Mar 12 12:42:19 the other syscall issue was a uclibc problem Mar 12 12:42:49 i've committed the uclibc patch to openwrt as well Mar 12 12:43:31 but did not have the time to port the kernel-fix to all mips-kernel-versions Mar 12 12:45:16 CyrusFF: ah ok, i thouhg both were kernel fixes Mar 12 12:47:32 * rwhitby starts the long flash of 8.09 to the fon2 to test Mar 12 12:48:55 rwhitby: we have ap51flash running for fonera20 Mar 12 12:49:08 what's that? Mar 12 12:49:25 its a userland app, that shipps its own telnet client and tftp serevr Mar 12 12:49:30 ./ap51flash Mar 12 12:49:37 then power up the fonera and wait 40 minuts Mar 12 12:49:44 that is all Mar 12 12:49:48 oh, the tftp is not the problem, it's the 40 minutes :-) Mar 12 12:49:56 it uses pcap to send and recv raw ethernet frames Mar 12 12:50:11 so you do not even have to have an ip of the same subnet Mar 12 12:50:21 sounds like upslug2 Mar 12 12:51:12 yeah, exactly Mar 12 12:51:22 i was thinking that maybe we should clean up the code Mar 12 12:51:26 and wrapper it with lua Mar 12 12:51:39 and then have a very simple platform to make a remote flash tool Mar 12 13:30:41 blogic: bluetooth works fine on openwrt 8.09 on fon2 hardware Mar 12 13:39:27 rwhitby: ok Mar 12 13:39:30 rwhitby: so ..... Mar 12 13:39:41 rwhitby: we should try to make the newer kerne work then i guess Mar 12 14:14:40 how long does the fon2 take to flash? Mar 12 14:14:51 45 minutes Mar 12 14:14:54 !!! Mar 12 14:14:57 what!?!?!?!? Mar 12 14:15:10 zen2: there will be a fonrecover.exe really soon, that controls the process Mar 12 14:15:17 minutes or seconds? Mar 12 14:15:21 the flash chip on the dev units is slow Mar 12 14:15:23 minutes Mar 12 14:15:31 the mass production has a different chip Mar 12 14:15:35 OMG !!! Mar 12 14:15:36 and takes about 5 minutes Mar 12 14:15:41 it is a serial flash Mar 12 14:15:55 well Mar 12 14:15:57 30 minutes Mar 12 14:16:26 what if something fails withing that 30/45min ? Mar 12 14:17:42 then you have to reflash Mar 12 14:17:43 :) Mar 12 14:17:52 the fonera is virtually unbreakable Mar 12 14:17:56 you can always recover it Mar 12 14:18:02 this is why we made fonrecover.exe Mar 12 14:18:11 it makes it much easier for the user to update the image Mar 12 14:20:43 Is fonrecover.exe oficially released blogic? Mar 12 14:25:28 on monday i think Mar 12 14:25:37 Decodecoding[A]: the first version will be commandline Mar 12 14:25:43 the following will be gui Mar 12 14:26:17 Good, I think it's a "must have" :-D Mar 12 14:29:14 yes, it is Mar 12 17:15:35 does anyone know of a simple way to send an email from the command line? Mar 12 17:15:47 (I want to include this in a bash script) Mar 12 17:16:15 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTP#Sample_communications Mar 12 17:16:45 I tried mini_sendmail but it does not work with gmail (which uses encription) Mar 12 17:17:10 CyrusFF: thanks Mar 12 17:24:06 are there any free smtp servers out there? Mar 12 17:24:33 I found alist on google, but all seem to dislike my ip... Mar 12 17:26:16 zen2: if there were they would be abused for spam Mar 12 17:26:24 true... Mar 12 17:27:02 but besides setting up my own smtp server, what else can I do? Mar 12 17:27:16 use the one from your mail address Mar 12 17:27:17 I'd prefer to use gmails server (With my own credentials), but they use TLS... Mar 12 17:27:44 then you have to get some TLS-aware application Mar 12 17:28:18 but they usually are linked against the >1MB openssl Mar 12 18:37:08 WOOOT! Mar 12 18:44:27 kazwo: :) Mar 12 18:49:57 I've found a simple way to send emails.. ;) Mar 12 18:51:40 checkout http://caspian.dotconf.net/menu/Software/SendEmail Mar 12 18:52:08 it's a perl script that can send email from the commadn line via a TLS server **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Mar 13 02:59:57 2009