**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Mar 13 02:59:57 2009 Mar 13 07:34:27 Hi! Buongiorno! Oggi è venerdì!!! Mar 13 09:44:02 good morning :D Mar 13 09:45:56 Good morning. It's friday!!! Mar 13 09:47:37 hi Mar 13 09:47:39 yeah! Mar 13 09:50:19 the ppl will love the new firmware :D Mar 13 09:50:40 I'm sure we will :-D Mar 13 09:50:43 iurgi: i sent kazwo an image yestaerday to get a review of torrent and german translations Mar 13 09:50:58 ;) Mar 13 09:51:02 iurgi: he loved it Mar 13 10:15:28 morning ^^ Mar 13 10:15:37 hi Mar 13 10:17:16 blogic: I know Mar 13 10:17:18 I love it too Mar 13 10:17:23 everybody will love it Mar 13 10:20:40 * Decodecoding[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes Mar 13 10:24:51 what you are speaking about? Mar 13 10:24:59 the next firmware Mar 13 10:25:59 nice Mar 13 10:26:07 i love it too :) Mar 13 10:26:07 so confirmed at 100% monday? Mar 13 10:26:18 just make sex with it and you are ok xD Mar 13 10:50:47 so confirmed at 100% monday? the release? Mar 13 10:51:13 Barbon: i read your quesgtion the first tim Mar 13 10:51:14 Barbon: i read your quesgtion the first time Mar 13 10:51:26 you are italian, you the most should know there is no 100% Mar 13 10:52:04 hahaha Mar 13 11:05:08 lol Mar 13 11:05:24 * Barbon launch his fonera on Blogic head Mar 13 11:05:35 good Mar 13 11:05:39 a free fonera :) Mar 13 11:05:47 hehehe Mar 13 11:05:52 Barbon: very very very likly will we have a release on monday Mar 13 11:05:59 but it can never be 100% sure Mar 13 11:06:45 There's only one 100% sure thing in life :-S Mar 13 11:08:59 i know Mar 13 11:09:13 there no 100% sure that your girl love you Mar 13 11:30:20 So, next week new firmware image (2.2.2.4 ? ) and plugins? Mar 13 11:32:22 * rwhitby has mounted a 4 port hub, 1GB flash stick, bluetooth dongle, and a flying lead with a mini-USB plug, all inside the fon2 case. Mar 13 11:32:42 with no soldering required. Mar 13 11:33:18 rwhitby You are an artist! Please let us see some pictura of that masterwork! Mar 13 11:33:28 just took some Mar 13 11:33:48 just making sure it all works before uploading the pics Mar 13 11:34:04 Ok. Let us know when you're done. Mar 13 11:43:15 rwhitby, sounds nice! Mar 13 11:43:46 please send the link to where the pic are hosted to the mailing list Mar 13 11:44:19 no one can follow the irc chan 24/7 Mar 13 11:44:37 i really don't wana miss that :) Mar 13 11:46:24 rwhitby: usign which kernel ? Mar 13 11:47:02 inouk: they will be at http://www.nslu2-linux.org/gallery/fonera2-hacks soon Mar 13 11:47:08 blogic: openwrt 8.09 Mar 13 11:47:53 rwhitby, thanks got the tab open in my ff now Mar 13 11:48:12 it'll take a while - I have a slow upload and they are hires photos Mar 13 11:48:28 2MB each Mar 13 12:04:04 * Decodecoding[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes Mar 13 12:05:18 inouk: they're up Mar 13 12:06:24 I expect the thermal convection properties will be significantly degraded ... Mar 13 12:07:07 This is the unit that I take on business trips, and plug it into the ethernet jack in the hotel and share to laptop, n800 and treo650. Mar 13 12:08:08 rwhitby: haha Mar 13 12:08:17 rwhitby: i will test the newer kernel after the release Mar 13 12:08:19 :) Mar 13 12:18:31 rwhitby, nice all in one device Mar 13 12:19:42 did you use it extencively Mar 13 12:20:18 imean to check that the heat doesn't imply Mar 13 12:20:32 reboots or other inconvienience Mar 13 12:21:34 only just made it 1 hour ago ... Mar 13 12:22:12 ah ok :) Mar 13 12:25:07 pity Fon didn't put a temp sensor in it ;-) Mar 13 12:25:48 blogic: for some reason, however, I can't get packets to route through to the openmoko phone Mar 13 12:25:56 use a usb temp sensor :P Mar 13 12:26:34 kazwo: not a bad idea - I have a Dallas Semi usb dongle and a temp iButton I think somewhere ... Mar 13 12:26:41 not enough room for it inside any more though Mar 13 12:27:30 blogic: I've turned off the firewall, and can ping 192.168.0.202 (the phone), but can't ssh to it (I can ssh to it from another openwrt device fine) Mar 13 12:41:51 rwhitby: mtu ? Mar 13 12:41:55 mtu problems ? Mar 13 12:42:28 blogic: how do I check that? Mar 13 12:43:21 rwhitby: by asking nbd Mar 13 12:43:23 :) Mar 13 12:43:26 well Mar 13 12:43:31 rwhitby: coming in via wifi ? Mar 13 12:43:36 or fromt he shell directly ? Mar 13 12:43:40 i ean the ping Mar 13 12:43:43 i mean the ping Mar 13 12:43:57 both ping and ssh are from the shell on the fon Mar 13 12:44:04 hmm Mar 13 12:44:11 and it is bridges ? Mar 13 12:44:18 or flat netdevs ? Mar 13 12:44:28 no, separate subnets, and routed. firewall is off. Mar 13 12:44:41 bizarro Mar 13 12:45:07 I'll pastebin some stuff for you to look at if you don't mind. Mar 13 12:45:38 http://pastebin.com/m56917856 Mar 13 12:46:02 mtu is 1500 throughout Mar 13 12:47:26 added stuff to the end of that pastebin Mar 13 12:49:06 blogic: does [bad opt] mean anything in a tcpdump? Mar 13 12:49:08 00:07:04.964725 IP 192.168.0.202.22 > 192.168.0.200.48621: S 1866902813:1866902813(0) ack 1642572226 win 5840 Mar 13 12:49:31 phewww Mar 13 12:49:36 no idea Mar 13 12:50:24 this is driving me crazy Mar 13 12:50:35 * blogic looks at the pastebin Mar 13 12:51:10 looks good Mar 13 12:52:53 anything else I can try to debug this? Mar 13 12:53:07 no idea sorry Mar 13 12:53:14 so Mar 13 12:53:20 layer 2 works, but l3 borkes Mar 13 12:53:21 hmmm Mar 13 12:54:03 bluetooth on ppp1 works fine, routing properly to wan Mar 13 12:54:57 and I can ssh from the treo650 to the fon2 over bluetooth with this same config Mar 13 12:55:10 and I can ssh in over wifi or lan too Mar 13 12:55:23 so it seems to be layer3 on usbnet only Mar 13 12:55:34 (which is the problem) Mar 13 12:55:46 ok Mar 13 12:55:57 put the usb net into mtu 1504 Mar 13 12:56:03 please Mar 13 12:58:02 how do i do that? Mar 13 12:58:46 ifconfig blah0 mtu 1504 ? Mar 13 12:58:48 i think Mar 13 12:58:55 i think ifconfig down first Mar 13 12:58:58 I put 'option mtu 1504' in /etc/config/network Mar 13 12:59:10 also /etc/config/network supports option mtu imho Mar 13 12:59:21 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1504 Metric:1 Mar 13 12:59:22 Mar 13 12:59:28 same result Mar 13 12:59:37 crap Mar 13 12:59:41 hmmmmmm Mar 13 12:59:50 this is usbnet to the moko Mar 13 12:59:52 right ? Mar 13 12:59:55 yep Mar 13 12:59:58 ask mirko and lars maybe Mar 13 13:00:01 ask mirko and larsc maybe Mar 13 13:00:05 usb-net-cdc-ether kernel module Mar 13 13:00:51 aha: 00:18:57.185621 IP (tos 0x10, ttl 64, id 0, offset 0, flags [DF], proto TCP (6), length 52) 192.168.0.202.22 > 192.168.0.200.39056: S, cksum 0xb608 (incorrect (-> 0x5a1d), 3662423611:3662423611(0) ack 3446323377 win 5840 Mar 13 13:00:51 dude Mar 13 13:00:56 you get closer each time Mar 13 13:00:57 :) Mar 13 13:01:09 [bad opt] <--- this is weird Mar 13 13:01:19 maybe make a pcap file and import it in wireshark Mar 13 13:01:20 I *will* finally get to the single box that does everything ... Mar 13 13:01:24 and analyze it there ? Mar 13 13:01:29 incorrect checksum! Mar 13 13:01:31 rwhitby: i am sure you will Mar 13 13:01:39 the checksum does not matter Mar 13 13:01:46 the dongle probably does it in HW Mar 13 13:02:08 which dongle? this is usbnet Mar 13 13:02:24 ah true Mar 13 13:02:25 lol Mar 13 13:02:27 sorry Mar 13 13:02:28 software at both ends, right? Mar 13 13:02:28 haha Mar 13 13:02:32 yes Mar 13 13:03:01 ifconfig doesn't show any errors though Mar 13 13:03:57 the neo mac address looks weird: Mar 13 13:04:06 root@OpenWrt:~# arp -a Mar 13 13:04:07 IP address HW type Flags HW address Mask Device Mar 13 13:04:12 192.168.0.202 0x1 0x2 5e:c0:6e:45:1e:46 * usb0 Mar 13 13:04:17 5e? Mar 13 13:04:45 it does Mar 13 13:04:49 ??! Mar 13 13:04:55 what does the neo say as its mac ? Mar 13 13:06:52 that matches what the neo thinks too Mar 13 13:07:41 trying with a gta01 now ... Mar 13 13:12:17 hmm - mac addresses on gta01 don't match on both ends of the usbnet link Mar 13 13:13:05 scratch that - looking at the wrong thing Mar 13 13:25:29 blogic: I've not got tcpdump running on the neo too Mar 13 13:25:41 it's seeing the ssh packets, and is responding. it has correct checksum. Mar 13 13:25:58 I reckon the Fon2 is dropping the packets somewhere due to the incorrect checksum. Mar 13 13:26:15 yes Mar 13 13:26:30 there is probably a HW_CHECKSUM or summin in KCONFIG Mar 13 13:26:34 or sysctl Mar 13 13:27:07 how can HW_CHECKSUM affect usb0 ? Mar 13 13:27:22 no idea Mar 13 13:27:30 this is what i would checkup :) Mar 13 13:32:42 yeah, it's definitely something to do with the checksum. a packet goes over, a packet comes back with good checksum, another packet goes over, then a bad checksum comes back and that one gets retried forever Mar 13 13:32:58 ok Mar 13 13:33:09 then it is a bug somewhere in usb-cdc-etehr Mar 13 15:15:15 Any advance on the new features/fixes we will enjoy next week? Mar 13 16:26:03 i think my pc dont likes me anymore :( Mar 13 16:26:23 b Mar 13 16:26:34 because i play more with my f2 Mar 13 16:26:54 Time for buying a new one :-d Mar 13 16:27:22 :D Mar 13 16:27:29 intel or amd? Mar 13 16:31:05 intel is better if you get a laptop imho Mar 13 16:31:12 Uff, I don't believe I'm qualified to answer that... Mar 13 16:32:35 * Decodecoding is no longer away : Gone for 4 hours 58 minutes 32 seconds Mar 13 16:33:14 need a desktop. i think amd has the best value for money Mar 13 17:01:12 * Decodecoding[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes Mar 13 18:41:44 someone know how the windows samba work? Mar 13 18:42:12 if i enter \\fonera to connect to my pendrive it works Mar 13 18:42:39 if i try to "map network drive" Mar 13 18:42:51 i enter \\fonera Mar 13 18:42:55 or the \\ip Mar 13 18:43:21 i got "the network path \\fonera could not be found" Mar 13 18:43:38 WTF? Mar 13 18:43:38 you have to add the folder too Mar 13 18:43:49 \\fonera\media\ Mar 13 18:43:58 \\fonera\media\ Mar 13 18:44:27 ah... Mar 13 18:44:31 gracias Mar 13 18:46:05 it works! Mar 13 18:46:16 :) Mar 13 18:47:11 the fonera rocks! Mar 13 18:47:12 3darn, switched to gprs Mar 13 18:47:32 * iurgi is on the bus using 3g dongle Mar 13 18:47:40 hrhrhr Mar 13 18:48:06 3g rocks, gprs sucks Mar 13 18:48:17 I wish spain was not a desert around madrid Mar 13 18:48:25 no cities, no population, no 3g Mar 13 18:48:37 lol Mar 13 18:49:02 use a directional 3g antenna Mar 13 18:49:04 :D Mar 13 18:49:08 lol Mar 13 18:49:18 next time I[ll bring a F2 and some batteries Mar 13 18:49:31 and will offer internet connection to others Mar 13 18:49:42 ;( Mar 13 18:49:58 http://www.brennpunkt-srl.de/ENG/index.html Mar 13 18:50:02 ;) Mar 13 18:50:29 don't send me links!!! I'm trying to load my mail! Mar 13 18:50:31 lol Mar 13 18:50:36 rofl Mar 13 18:50:59 ugly page but good antennas ^^ Mar 13 18:51:00 hahah Mar 13 18:51:15 there's a baby in the bus I'd like to kill Mar 13 18:51:28 won't stop shouting and crying Mar 13 18:52:27 if you run amok, promote the f2 ;) Mar 13 18:52:43 amok? Mar 13 18:53:10 go postal Mar 13 18:53:12 run riot Mar 13 18:53:26 ah Mar 13 18:53:30 hehe Mar 13 18:55:21 webmail loaded!!!! Mar 13 18:59:03 :D Mar 13 18:59:24 do you need some real big mails? Mar 13 18:59:25 ^^ Mar 13 18:59:33 hahaha Mar 13 18:59:35 no tnx Mar 13 19:46:30 hi Mar 13 19:46:52 hi **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Mar 14 02:59:57 2009