**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 16 02:59:57 2009
Mar 16 08:04:35 <Danicasti_> Hi!
Mar 16 08:55:41 <kazwo> gooooood morning
Mar 16 08:59:11 <blogic> moin
Mar 16 09:30:30 * Decodecoding[A] is now away - Reason : Auto-Away after 30 minutes
Mar 16 11:14:40 <zen2> hello
Mar 16 11:15:47 <bmpeter> hi
Mar 16 11:22:00 <iurgi> hi
Mar 16 12:05:16 <kazwo> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Verwaltungsgericht-bezeichnet-Vorratsdatenspeicherung-als-ungueltig--/meldung/134616
Mar 16 12:05:19 <kazwo> !
Mar 16 12:24:19 <Decodecoding[A]> Good morning everyone!
Mar 16 12:29:24 <iurgi> hi
Mar 16 12:33:26 <bmpeter> guten morgen
Mar 16 12:33:48 <Decodecoding[A]> It's been a whole weekend offline
Mar 16 16:02:49 <Barbon> hey news?
Mar 16 16:04:11 <iurgi> hi no
Mar 16 16:04:12 <iurgi> :(
Mar 16 16:10:40 <Barbon> holy crap! XD
Mar 16 16:10:46 <Barbon> so when release come?
Mar 16 16:14:22 <Decodecoding[A]> :'(
Mar 16 16:14:33 * Decodecoding is no longer away : Gone for 7 hours 14 minutes 3 seconds
Mar 16 16:30:55 <Barbon> so?
Mar 16 16:59:33 <kazwo> where is the alcohol?
Mar 16 17:05:47 <Barbon> lol
Mar 16 17:07:02 <iurgi> pablo_bz: drank it
Mar 16 17:08:01 <Danicasti> The week-end you have to work! No alcohol!!!! :)
Mar 16 17:11:39 <kazwo> tss  working :P
Mar 16 17:11:53 <kazwo> i need alcohol to work :D
Mar 16 17:13:56 <Danicasti> eheh!
Mar 16 17:17:23 <blogic> kazwo: wo ist der deinhardt
Mar 16 17:55:07 <Decodecoding> Platero posted in the Fon Wiki?
Mar 16 17:55:19 <Decodecoding> Looks good  (H)
Mar 16 17:59:08 <Decodecoding> Anxious to start testing with this new toy
Mar 16 18:03:00 <iurgi> Decodecoding: fon wiki? where?
Mar 16 18:04:40 <Decodecoding> http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_2.2.4.0_(Platero)
Mar 16 18:05:07 <Decodecoding> No download available, of course
Mar 16 18:06:02 <iurgi> ah
Mar 16 18:06:03 <iurgi> how not
Mar 16 18:06:06 <iurgi> skynetbbs...
Mar 16 18:06:15 <Decodecoding> :-d
Mar 16 18:06:19 <iurgi> I wonder how he's able to always do things that I dislike
Mar 16 18:06:29 <iurgi> the thing is I don't think he does it on purpose
Mar 16 18:06:32 <iurgi> but he still does
Mar 16 18:06:46 <iurgi> he didn't even care to change the language to english
Mar 16 18:06:47 <iurgi> oh well
Mar 16 18:07:00 <Decodecoding> well, I don't think many people will see it today till you anounce it
Mar 16 18:07:21 <iurgi> yeah, but still
Mar 16 18:07:29 <iurgi> it makes it a little less exciting
Mar 16 18:07:50 <iurgi> after all, it's only you guys who give feedback to us
Mar 16 18:07:58 <iurgi> apart form the mailing list and other few
Mar 16 18:08:10 <Decodecoding> I see. Well, let's keep our mouth closed till the D hour is here
Mar 16 18:08:18 <Decodecoding> I will do so
Mar 16 18:08:22 <iurgi> hehehe
Mar 16 18:09:04 <kazwo> ;D
Mar 16 18:09:48 <Decodecoding> It's a matter of respect for your work
Mar 16 18:10:23 <iurgi> hehe
Mar 16 18:10:27 <iurgi> well, we publish it in svn
Mar 16 18:10:33 <iurgi> so anyone can take it and spread it
Mar 16 18:10:38 <iurgi> if you did it... I wouldn't complain
Mar 16 18:10:51 <iurgi> I owuld kindly ask you to try to avoid it next time
Mar 16 18:10:59 <iurgi> but this skynetbbs always manages to annoy me
Mar 16 18:11:04 <iurgi> well, not always
Mar 16 18:11:11 <iurgi> sometimes he gives me good news too!
Mar 16 18:11:16 <Decodecoding> he he
Mar 16 18:17:07 <iurgi> anyway
Mar 16 18:17:21 <iurgi> I think Platero will be quite loved
Mar 16 18:17:28 <iurgi> it has some very niiiiiiiiiiice improvements
Mar 16 18:17:30 <iurgi> aaaaaand
Mar 16 18:17:36 <iurgi> it has the long awaited features
Mar 16 18:17:44 <Decodecoding> yummi
Mar 16 18:18:05 <iurgi> I personally love rapidshare and megaupload features
Mar 16 18:21:12 <Decodecoding> Well guys, I'll stay tuned till it is announced. Congratulations for the improvements.
Mar 16 18:23:14 <DMLazybone> hi
Mar 16 18:23:33 <kazwo> hi
Mar 16 18:30:58 <kazwo> http://failblog.org/2009/03/16/wtf-extra-fireman-fail/
Mar 16 18:48:29 <Barbon> roft
Mar 16 19:42:12 <Barbon> wuster
Mar 16 19:54:18 <SkyNETbbs> anyone else tested Plato?
Mar 16 19:54:44 <inouk> yeah
Mar 16 19:55:05 <inouk> SkyNETbbs, what's your findings
Mar 16 19:55:06 <inouk> ?
Mar 16 19:58:50 <fonero> Hello, when the 2.2.4.0 firmware?
Mar 16 19:59:03 <iurgi> fonero: very soon
Mar 16 19:59:07 <iurgi> not today though
Mar 16 19:59:12 <iurgi> maybe tomorrow?
Mar 16 19:59:14 <iurgi> depends
Mar 16 19:59:17 <iurgi> we're almost done
Mar 16 19:59:27 <iurgi> this is a big release...
Mar 16 19:59:40 <Barbon> is still beta?
Mar 16 19:59:49 <iurgi> Barbon: hmmm
Mar 16 19:59:52 <iurgi> technically no
Mar 16 20:00:04 <iurgi> this image is going to be the second production of non beta foneras
Mar 16 20:00:09 <iurgi> the first one was Caterpillar
Mar 16 20:00:20 <iurgi> we are gonna sell Caterpillar foneras without the beta logo on them
Mar 16 20:00:35 <iurgi> Platero is the first upgrade of the stable firmware
Mar 16 20:00:46 <iurgi> big upgrade ;)
Mar 16 20:00:58 <iurgi> btw, anyone has any uptimes to give?
Mar 16 20:01:05 <pablo_bz> hahahahahaha
Mar 16 20:01:06 <iurgi> my fonera is flashed at least 5 times a day
Mar 16 20:01:26 <iurgi> pablo_bz: what's so funny?
Mar 16 20:01:26 <pablo_bz> stable non technically beta
Mar 16 20:01:32 <pablo_bz> blablablabla
Mar 16 20:01:35 <iurgi> ?
Mar 16 20:01:44 <iurgi> I don't understand
Mar 16 20:01:47 <pablo_bz> this firmware has many cool changes since the last one
Mar 16 20:01:57 <pablo_bz> exactly like all the other firmwares we released
Mar 16 20:02:05 <iurgi> well, no
Mar 16 20:02:08 <iurgi> this one has more
Mar 16 20:02:19 <pablo_bz> Barbon: it is bleeding edge, and it is alive, and also with "more"
Mar 16 20:02:33 <iurgi> yes
Mar 16 20:02:37 <iurgi> this one has more
Mar 16 20:02:44 <pablo_bz> more is a good thing to have
Mar 16 20:02:46 <iurgi> torrent, rapidshare, megaupload, youtube...
Mar 16 20:02:54 <pablo_bz> great
Mar 16 20:03:01 <iurgi> I think that's a good description of: "more"
Mar 16 20:03:02 <iurgi> :)
Mar 16 20:03:23 <pablo_bz> we always want more
Mar 16 20:03:27 <iurgi> yeah
Mar 16 20:03:41 <iurgi> so, anyone has any good uptime experience to share
Mar 16 20:03:49 <iurgi> (like in the american movies... lol)
Mar 16 20:04:01 <iurgi> don't be shy, we are all of the same condition
Mar 16 20:04:03 <iurgi> lol
Mar 16 20:04:12 <iurgi> except for pablo_bz
Mar 16 20:04:21 <iurgi> btw, he's responsible for plateros name and race
Mar 16 20:04:32 <pablo_bz> me going
Mar 16 20:04:33 <iurgi> blame him if you don't like it
Mar 16 20:05:18 <pablo_bz> blame iurgi if you do not find fresh air surrounding you
Mar 16 20:05:23 <pablo_bz> everyone knows platero
Mar 16 20:05:37 <SkyNETbbs> 2.2.4.0 is great...
Mar 16 20:05:45 <fonero> You can download videos from youtube?
Mar 16 20:05:47 <SkyNETbbs> I send my comments to John
Mar 16 20:05:53 <iurgi> fonero: no, upload
Mar 16 20:06:28 <pablo_bz> platero is "small donkey, a soft, hairy donkey: so soft to the touch that he might be said to be made of cotton, with no bones. Only the jet mirrors of his eyes are hard like two black crystal scarabs."
Mar 16 20:06:29 <SkyNETbbs> no idea how youtube plugin works...reported a bug for it
Mar 16 20:07:25 <pablo_bz> fonero: you want to download videos from youtube and convert them to AVI or MP4 or quicktime format for i.e your ipod touch/iphone?
Mar 16 20:07:36 <SkyNETbbs> webcam plugin...reported a bug...
Mar 16 20:07:41 <SkyNETbbs> torrent plugin works...
Mar 16 20:07:48 <pablo_bz> that would be great, but with more computing power, since mencoder converting
Mar 16 20:07:52 <pablo_bz> will take days
Mar 16 20:07:59 <inouk> SkyNETbbs, please share your comment with me
Mar 16 20:08:02 <pablo_bz> for each video in current hardware
Mar 16 20:08:12 <SkyNETbbs> here or in private?
Mar 16 20:08:17 <inouk> send it to me by email
Mar 16 20:08:19 <SkyNETbbs> ah i'll forward that email to you
Mar 16 20:08:25 <inouk> thanks
Mar 16 20:10:50 <fonero> ok, and downloaded from megaupload and rapidshare with premium account, directly to a hard drive connected to the Fonera 2?	
Mar 16 20:11:04 <iurgi> yes
Mar 16 20:11:09 <iurgi> fonero: that's the point
Mar 16 20:11:09 <iurgi> :)
Mar 16 20:11:18 <iurgi> this rocks
Mar 16 20:11:26 * iurgi is been using it all last week
Mar 16 20:13:20 <SkyNETbbs> okay email underway
Mar 16 20:13:47 <SkyNETbbs> torrent will search on piratebay and download also directly to your usb memory stick (or harddrive)...
Mar 16 20:13:52 <SkyNETbbs> very fast speeds...
Mar 16 20:13:57 <SkyNETbbs> downloaded a simpson episode :-)
Mar 16 20:14:15 <SkyNETbbs> the terminator episode didn't succeed "bad avi" vlc says....
Mar 16 20:14:29 <SkyNETbbs> although the spanish .srt file accompagnying was okay :-)
Mar 16 20:14:40 <inouk> SkyNETbbs, thanks
Mar 16 20:15:40 <inouk> SkyNETbbs, that was a beta some stuff will change
Mar 16 20:15:51 <SkyNETbbs> what's beta?
Mar 16 20:16:28 <fonero> function similarly to the jdownloder program, you can limit the download speed?
Mar 16 20:16:57 <iurgi> fonero: you can limit the number of downloads, not the speed
Mar 16 20:17:04 <iurgi> we will add this in the future
Mar 16 20:17:54 <SkyNETbbs> the current firmware doesn't seem to have a "fon_Services" anymore; all plugins are on the main dashboard? is there still place for more?
Mar 16 20:18:01 <iurgi> but right now, you can set the time frames you want to download
Mar 16 20:18:39 <fonero> ok, thanks for the responses.
Mar 16 20:20:26 <kyros> hi all - it's been a long time since I was here...
Mar 16 20:20:44 <kyros> just heared that a new version is coming
Mar 16 20:21:00 <inouk> kyros, welcome!
Mar 16 20:21:03 <Barbon> nice
Mar 16 20:21:43 <inouk> kyros, yes i think you'll ike it
Mar 16 20:22:07 <kyros> may I make 2 questions about long ago requested features?
Mar 16 20:22:57 <inouk> sorry going home
Mar 16 20:23:01 <inouk> see ya
Mar 16 20:23:20 <kyros> First is about a client's list (connected devices' IPs) of at least private LAN/WiFi
Mar 16 20:24:32 <kyros> Second is about a mimi webserver so I can host simpl webpages on one directory on the usb-stick to provide http:// access
Mar 16 20:24:52 <SkyNETbbs> first : "cat /tmp/dhcp.leases"
Mar 16 20:24:56 <kyros> mini webserver ... ;-)
Mar 16 20:26:36 <kyros> "cat /tmp/dhcp.leases" ???  -> seen not be a GUI well known page in terms of layout
Mar 16 20:27:09 <SkyNETbbs> indeed... i'm also still connected everyday on the ssh side of the fonera
Mar 16 20:27:39 <kyros> so why we need all the GUI at all?
Mar 16 20:31:14 <kyros> ok - so it seems a client list is still not implemented...
Mar 16 20:31:23 <SkyNETbbs> nope not implemented yet
Mar 16 20:33:11 <kyros> hmm - FYI - I haven't seem any router on the market in the last 5 years (except La Foneras) without a client listing in the GUI.
Mar 16 20:34:01 <kyros> any hints about question 2 ???
Mar 16 20:39:40 <xMff> well the used httpd also implements the serving of plain files
Mar 16 20:39:49 <xMff> no idea whether it is enabled in the firmware
Mar 16 20:41:33 <CyrusFF> xMff: sure it is I mean css, images etc. :-P
Mar 16 20:41:49 <xMff> of course... I should think before typing
Mar 16 20:55:31 <SkyNETbbs> someone knows why i allways get "?:0: attempt to call field '?' (a nil value)" ?
Mar 16 20:58:32 <SkyNETbbs> http://www.pastebin.ca/1362661
Mar 16 20:58:42 <blogic> ?
Mar 16 20:58:54 <SkyNETbbs> if it were a typing mistake it would just give "no file found" or something... ?
Mar 16 20:59:48 <blogic> SkyNETbbs: does module("luci.controller.fon_connections", package.seeall) correlate directly to the path ?
Mar 16 21:00:00 <blogic> CyrusFF: can you help SkyNETbbs i forgot the reason for the error :)
Mar 16 21:00:44 <SkyNETbbs> ok thnx!
Mar 16 21:00:51 <SkyNETbbs> found it
Mar 16 21:14:24 <kyros> So unfortunately from userside no satisfying answers...  no client list and no webpage hosting. :-(
Mar 16 21:15:10 <blogic> kyros: ?
Mar 16 21:15:23 <blogic> kyros: you mean dhcp client ?
Mar 16 21:15:28 <blogic> i mean static ip f00 ?
Mar 16 21:15:51 <xMff> kyros: ever tried to put stuff in /www ? How do you think the other stuff like images and css is hosted?
Mar 16 21:16:21 <blogic> kyros: and then there is also lua whch you can use
Mar 16 21:16:32 <blogic> kyros: or what do you mean exactly ?
Mar 16 21:16:47 <kyros> I mean a list of devices which are connected to my La Fonera 2.0's private LAN/WiFi - with showing at least their IPs - it's a simple table
Mar 16 21:16:50 <xMff> blogic: listing of current active dhcp leases
Mar 16 21:16:58 <xMff> blogic: maybe mixed with arpcache info
Mar 16 21:17:20 <blogic> kyros: yes, it is planned
Mar 16 21:17:27 <blogic> but we need to get production images ready
Mar 16 21:17:39 <blogic> kyros: that does not mean that tonight we stop working on features
Mar 16 21:17:42 <blogic> kyros: :)
Mar 16 21:17:54 <kyros> a simple slist would be good for the beginning (host names if available and IP's - you could add the MAC as well and the lease time).
Mar 16 21:17:59 <blogic> kyros: i will add static lcients and the list you said really soon
Mar 16 21:18:07 <blogic> kyros: exactly
Mar 16 21:18:14 <blogic> kyros: i also want dns to then resolve them
Mar 16 21:18:33 <blogic> so i can say my laptop has max xx:yy:zz:.... and i can "ping laptop"
Mar 16 21:18:34 <kyros> fine :-)
Mar 16 21:18:39 <blogic> kyros: ok, we agree then
Mar 16 21:18:54 <kyros> thanx a lot !!!
Mar 16 21:19:16 <DMLazybone> blogic meine nachricht bekommen das meine lafonera wieder funktioniert?
Mar 16 21:20:02 <blogic> kyros: also i was thinking of blacklisting and access control
Mar 16 21:20:13 <blogic> so you can set your kids pc to have no inet after 10pm
Mar 16 21:20:21 <blogic> DMLazybone: nope
Mar 16 21:20:41 <blogic> DMLazybone: also der ssh kram ? ich hatte nochmal an dem mtu hack geschraubt evtl hat das es heil gemacht ?!?
Mar 16 21:20:45 <blogic> DMLazybone: freut mich
Mar 16 21:20:54 <kyros> blogic: balcklisting is good, but then please add the FON clients as well.
Mar 16 21:21:07 <DMLazybone> (blogic): nene das mit dem nach flahs nix mehr tuten die lafonera
Mar 16 21:21:22 <blogic> kyros: uhhh..... difficult topic :)
Mar 16 21:21:36 <kyros> so that you can block one guest if he doesn't behave as one.
Mar 16 21:21:41 <blogic> DMLazybone: ok, es gibt die tage ein recovery tool für windows
Mar 16 21:21:50 <DMLazybone> k
Mar 16 21:21:53 <blogic> das ist dann eine "double click" und geht sache
Mar 16 21:22:05 <blogic> wir schrauben nur noch an der GUI
Mar 16 21:22:21 <kyros> in the freewlan login my freinds had implemented this - but please don't ask me how...
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