**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 17 02:59:57 2009 Apr 17 06:37:41 Hi! Buongiorno! Apr 17 08:55:59 hello,, Apr 17 09:00:09 49 sek, thats fast Apr 17 09:00:21 sec Apr 17 09:42:51 hi Apr 17 09:45:09 hi Apr 17 09:50:16 hi Apr 17 09:56:27 http://www.thelocal.se:80/18908.html :-( Apr 17 10:05:28 CyrusFF, I regret to say the IP tables tweak did'nt work... I hate being the bd news guy :'( Apr 17 10:05:45 oh well Apr 17 10:05:55 Decodecoding: i do not suppose you have a serial console Apr 17 10:05:57 ? Apr 17 10:06:02 No Apr 17 10:09:46 Decodecoding: thats not good Apr 17 11:03:03 I'm afraid so Apr 17 11:07:55 Decodecoding: are you based in madrid? Apr 17 11:15:56 Hi guys! Iurgi, mail sent for you! Apr 17 11:16:09 Yes Apr 17 11:22:05 bmpeter: got it Apr 17 11:22:06 thanks Apr 17 11:22:17 Decodecoding: maybe you can borrow one from fon for debugging Apr 17 11:28:03 A console? Apr 17 11:28:24 I don't know if I'd be able to do it Apr 17 11:28:48 do what? Apr 17 11:29:00 it's just as simple as connecting the device to your usb port :) Apr 17 11:29:06 ah Apr 17 11:29:08 hehe Apr 17 11:29:22 But, is it a device? a software? Apr 17 11:29:29 device Apr 17 11:29:45 is it expensive? Apr 17 11:29:48 you connect it to the fonera serial port (inside the box) and you can see what it's doing every moment Apr 17 11:29:53 well, not much Apr 17 11:30:07 but if you want to come to the office, you can take one for a few days Apr 17 11:30:11 and give it back to us Apr 17 11:30:23 and you can see the office :) Apr 17 11:30:31 and you can see iurgi Apr 17 11:30:37 :D Apr 17 11:30:38 ha ha Apr 17 11:30:43 lol Apr 17 11:30:46 and pablo_bz Apr 17 11:30:50 he's much nicer to see Apr 17 11:30:52 uglier... Apr 17 11:30:56 but nicer Apr 17 11:30:56 haha Apr 17 11:31:20 I'd really like to visit the Fon office, but these days I'm a bit to busy to go to Alcobendas Apr 17 11:31:35 Decodecoding: iurgi can mail you a serial console Apr 17 11:31:41 Iurgi. Do you know Conectrol? Apr 17 11:31:58 Maybe I can buy one there Apr 17 11:32:07 if it is not too expensive Apr 17 11:32:50 I don't know it Apr 17 11:32:53 I'm not form madrid Apr 17 11:33:10 blogic: I don't have spare ones Apr 17 11:33:13 They sell every kind of electronic components Apr 17 11:33:17 I can mail it as long as I can have it back Apr 17 11:33:18 :( Apr 17 11:33:23 iurgi: ok Apr 17 11:33:28 Decodecoding: well, what you need is a level conversor Apr 17 11:33:29 same as picking it up Apr 17 11:33:43 What should I ask for (in spanish)? Apr 17 11:33:44 and a serial to usb converter Apr 17 11:33:46 that's it Apr 17 11:33:46 hmmm Apr 17 11:33:55 blogic? what is the chip? Apr 17 11:34:05 MAX232 or something like that? Apr 17 11:34:56 Level conversor and serial to usb converter Apr 17 11:34:59 ? Apr 17 11:35:10 yeah Apr 17 11:35:39 I'm going to ask a friend of mine who used to repair foneras Apr 17 11:36:33 I think I can borrow from him the right stufff Apr 17 11:43:29 great Apr 17 12:01:14 i know conectrol Apr 17 12:01:48 if you know how to build your own electronic stuff, wich i do not, you can build a converter for the serial port in la fonera very easily Apr 17 12:01:58 la fonera uses TTL serial Apr 17 12:02:47 5V = 1 0V=0. The device is just a bunch of transistors to make 1 = -10V and 0 = +10V or something like that Apr 17 12:04:00 then we attach a usb-to-serial device, but it is just because we do not have serial ports on the laptops Apr 17 12:08:50 it is -12V and +12V on a regular serial port Apr 17 12:09:09 that is it, you convert the 3.3V (1) and 0V (0) to -12V (1) and 0V (0) Apr 17 12:10:25 for example: http://microblog.routed.net/2007/02/14/how-to-make-a-dual-supply-rs-232-to-ttl-level-converter/ Apr 17 12:10:32 probably they sell it in conectrol Apr 17 13:20:17 pablo_bz. A friend of mine is going to lend me the stuff he used to have for fonera 1.0 Apr 17 13:20:33 Decodecoding: good Apr 17 13:20:34 !! Apr 17 13:20:34 Is it right for FOnera 2.0 ? Apr 17 13:22:05 yes Apr 17 13:22:10 it is compatible fully Apr 17 13:22:34 I guess it connect through serial port... Apr 17 13:23:01 or usb Apr 17 13:23:10 when oyu hav the equipment, let me know Apr 17 13:23:15 i can explain how to use it Apr 17 13:23:18 all right Apr 17 13:23:26 it effectivlely does the same as ssh Apr 17 13:23:27 :) Apr 17 13:23:33 aha Apr 17 13:29:15 Decodecoding: what fonera 1.0? Apr 17 13:29:43 iurgi: his friend has a 1.0 uart dongle Apr 17 13:30:11 depending on the version, if your friend's serial cable has a connector (instead of untied wires) Apr 17 13:30:35 it might not work (just physiscally... changing the connector would suffice) Apr 17 13:30:46 I don't know Apr 17 13:30:51 Decodecoding: we will see Apr 17 13:30:53 Tonight we'll see Apr 17 13:30:56 i am nt too worried Apr 17 13:31:04 I'll tell you in the mail list Apr 17 13:31:11 Decodecoding: if it does not work, i will send you a dongle i have 1 spare Apr 17 13:31:14 good Apr 17 13:31:15 thx Apr 17 14:53:25 hi Apr 17 15:41:17 http://www.instructables.com/id/Steampunk-Segway-Legway-/ Apr 17 16:05:25 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AImMtk1Dck Apr 17 16:05:26 :) Apr 17 16:07:21 ?? Apr 17 16:07:24 is that you? Apr 17 16:07:56 yeah! Apr 17 16:08:31 nice Apr 17 16:08:32 :) Apr 17 16:08:44 are very bad! Apr 17 16:10:11 are not very capable look! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8sS7ifHe8w Apr 17 16:10:35 I'm not Apr 17 16:10:37 :) Apr 17 16:11:04 wtf!! Apr 17 16:12:30 incredible Apr 17 16:12:43 is it gasoil that it uses? Apr 17 16:13:14 no, methanol Apr 17 16:13:55 He is very good Apr 17 16:14:01 !!! Apr 17 16:14:10 yeah Apr 17 16:14:15 how much does it cost? Apr 17 16:14:36 100 euros... :( Apr 17 16:14:44 ops... 1000!!! Apr 17 16:15:10 20 foneras!!!! Apr 17 16:15:25 :) Apr 17 16:15:28 :P Apr 17 16:15:56 at least not break!!! Apr 17 16:16:38 wow Apr 17 16:18:00 pilotage is very difficult Apr 17 17:06:45 i've heard the smaller the more difficult Apr 17 20:11:40 hey there Apr 17 20:12:46 i cant find the right ressource, so i hope someone can clarifie Apr 17 20:12:55 i bought the la fonera+ Apr 17 20:13:26 how to upgrade its firmware to 2.2.4.0 aka Platero (2009-03-16)? Apr 17 20:57:28 any dev in the room? Apr 17 21:27:16 I'm in Apr 17 21:30:29 Decodecoding: yes? Apr 17 21:30:34 good Apr 17 21:39:14 so, now you need to make it crash again Apr 17 21:57:31 tuesday is the big day Apr 17 22:17:50 Ok iurgi. I'm on it Apr 17 22:18:24 Let me show you the last lines in the boot sequence related to the hard disk filesystem Apr 17 22:19:21 sure Apr 17 22:19:24 http://pastebin.com/m30c5217 Apr 17 22:19:54 guess it is no big deal, but just to let you know Apr 17 22:20:02 that0s normal Apr 17 22:20:06 ok Apr 17 22:20:31 so lets keep searching for the crash Apr 17 22:20:37 I will check with blogic if fsck can be added, for the filesystems we support Apr 17 22:20:44 because it might get useful Apr 17 22:20:47 yes Apr 17 22:24:29 possible SYN flooding on port 6881. Sending cookies. Apr 17 22:24:36 No crash yet Apr 17 22:25:12 ok **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 18 02:59:57 2009