**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 21 02:59:57 2009 Apr 21 05:52:51 olà Apr 21 07:15:45 Goodmorning! D-Day today... Waiting for the new firmware & waiting for my HY 554 USB audio dongle only € 2,83 @ DX :-) Apr 21 08:14:19 iurgi: http://www.tmplab.org/2009/03/01/battlewirelessmesh2009-april-11-12-tmplab-sponsors-update/ # do you know about this? Apr 21 08:14:45 chihchun: yes Apr 21 08:14:47 chihchun: he does Apr 21 08:15:59 hi chihchun Apr 21 08:17:04 blogic: Xiexie Massoud is in Taiwan, and he is still trying to get more units for test. So, I wonder how many units we have already gave for the wbm2009 Apr 21 08:17:28 25 Apr 21 08:17:30 imho Apr 21 08:17:52 hum Apr 21 08:18:00 chihchun: we only lent those units Apr 21 08:18:05 we didn't give them away Apr 21 08:18:12 I see. Apr 21 08:41:25 Good morning Apr 21 08:46:18 hi Apr 21 08:46:44 logic, did you see the mail I posted on the list last night? Does it make any sense? Apr 21 08:47:16 yes Apr 21 08:47:21 i will think about a solution Apr 21 08:47:28 i am puzzled why you get such high load Apr 21 08:47:38 i have not seen such load in a long time Apr 21 08:48:02 you mean the watchdog thing? Apr 21 09:34:41 will the fonera2.0 be available at shop.fon.com or do i have to use the link from the "Fonera 2.0 in stock alert"? Apr 21 09:35:16 it will be in the shop Apr 21 09:35:55 fine :) Apr 21 09:57:13 3min to go!!!! Apr 21 09:57:23 guys, we're not gonna be the only freaks with a F2.0!!! Apr 21 09:57:27 we're opening to the world! Apr 21 09:57:28 lol Apr 21 09:57:28 haha Apr 21 10:05:47 mh, kind of DDoS? Apr 21 10:05:48 The page you requested cannot be found. The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable. Apr 21 10:06:35 same here, bad gateway... Apr 21 10:06:36 502 Bad Gateway Apr 21 10:08:27 yeah... Apr 21 10:08:32 we're not apple Apr 21 10:08:32 lol Apr 21 10:09:22 haha, main fon site: Apr 21 10:09:24 Service Temporary Unavailable Apr 21 10:09:24 Please, try again later Apr 21 10:10:47 yeah Apr 21 10:10:47 :) Apr 21 10:10:50 iurgi: shall we say: "fon store is down" with an orange post-it? Apr 21 10:11:23 hehehe Apr 21 10:11:26 yeah, it's weird Apr 21 10:11:37 see till now, all the releases have been done with such a sign Apr 21 10:11:45 saying: "changes are comming" or similar Apr 21 10:11:51 today, they did a hot upload Apr 21 10:11:53 I don't konw why Apr 21 10:12:21 online...now Apr 21 10:12:39 but verrrry slow... Apr 21 10:26:52 curious, any promo code for F2.0? Apr 21 10:27:34 Codes for la fonera+ doesn't work ;) Apr 21 10:27:48 haha Apr 21 10:28:54 ok, ordered one :) Apr 21 10:31:11 atari`: cool Apr 21 10:31:46 spain is leading the sales Apr 21 10:31:48 then france Apr 21 10:31:50 and then germany Apr 21 10:31:51 :) Apr 21 10:33:30 ...i've been waiting 8 mins already before i reach the final paypal page... Apr 21 10:33:43 tonybo: ugh Apr 21 10:34:53 OK... paid... mission accomplished in 30 mins after a release like this... not bad though :D Apr 21 10:36:01 lol Apr 21 10:36:14 anyone noticed the msi wind bundle? Apr 21 10:37:00 yep... tempting... but not a go for me... Apr 21 10:37:38 yeah Apr 21 10:37:40 msi wind bundle ?? Apr 21 10:37:45 I already have an aspire one Apr 21 10:37:48 but it's a good offer Apr 21 10:37:59 what bundle ? Apr 21 10:38:05 MSI wind + F2.0 = 379€ Apr 21 10:38:12 (+ shipping) Apr 21 10:38:13 yes, only in spain shop Apr 21 10:38:19 hmm Apr 21 10:38:19 no Apr 21 10:38:29 spain, italy, netherlands, france and I think germany Apr 21 10:38:33 but I don't know about germany Apr 21 10:38:57 hmmm Apr 21 10:39:35 Voorstad * Waiting for the new final firmware to be published..... * Apr 21 10:39:45 voorstad: soon enough Apr 21 10:41:07 voorstad: very soon Apr 21 10:42:06 Voorstad * pressing F5 every 10 seconds :-) * Apr 21 10:43:48 lol Apr 21 10:43:50 not that soon Apr 21 10:45:19 @ iurgi: not today??? :-( Apr 21 10:45:30 voorstad: not decided yet Apr 21 10:56:55 @ blogic: pending on.........? Apr 21 10:56:59 hello Apr 21 10:57:03 got my 2.0!! Apr 21 10:57:15 great!!! Apr 21 10:57:24 voorstad: time! Apr 21 10:57:27 does anybody know which webcams are supported! Apr 21 10:57:28 ? Apr 21 10:57:30 we're really busy today Apr 21 10:57:35 yeah Apr 21 10:57:35 burton-ng: there's a list Apr 21 10:57:40 search the wiki.fon.com Apr 21 10:57:42 @ iurgi: ha, better than bugs :-) Apr 21 10:57:42 lotsa time to load the web Apr 21 10:57:44 you'll find it there Apr 21 10:58:05 thanks! Apr 21 11:00:30 yeah i see Apr 21 11:00:44 good Apr 21 11:00:53 anyway i think this list is not a final one Apr 21 11:01:06 It may become larger right? Apr 21 11:01:08 what list are yo ulooking at? Apr 21 11:01:12 gimme the link Apr 21 11:01:45 http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Webcam_compatibility Apr 21 11:02:13 i mean that other webcams not listed may work Apr 21 11:04:15 burton-ng: it needs to be a uvc camera Apr 21 11:04:54 http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/, there's a compat list Apr 21 11:07:21 yeah, burton-ng that page in the wiki is crap Apr 21 11:07:32 there's another one in the same wiki linking to the one xMff gave you Apr 21 11:13:34 in the wiki that's the TESTED webcam Apr 21 11:14:24 i updated the page to make that clear Apr 21 11:15:05 ok Apr 21 11:15:10 inouk, add tha tlink there as well, please Apr 21 11:15:22 it is there Apr 21 11:15:39 i just added Apr 21 11:15:42 it Apr 21 11:16:21 cool Apr 21 11:16:22 thakns! Apr 21 11:16:42 yeah Apr 21 11:16:47 thank you Apr 21 11:17:01 it was much more complete Apr 21 11:17:02 actually even ttp://linux-uvc.berlios.de/, is not a complete list Apr 21 11:17:12 no? Apr 21 11:17:25 i guess its up to chipset rather thatn mdel Apr 21 11:17:48 i have 3 different webcams i will try asap Apr 21 11:17:51 there is more webcam using UVC standard than the one listed Apr 21 11:18:44 no one can keep up to date a list of every single manufacturer releasing a UVC webcam Apr 21 11:18:45 give me now firmware! Apr 21 11:18:49 (lol) Apr 21 11:19:18 ihi :) Apr 21 11:56:14 news? Apr 21 11:56:57 hi guys, at what time aproxy sill RC3 be released? :) Apr 21 11:58:32 merlin2: no rc3 Apr 21 11:58:59 what then? Apr 21 11:59:28 2.2.6.0? Apr 21 12:01:17 final version Apr 21 12:01:24 i think right? Apr 21 12:01:51 not final Apr 21 12:01:56 we will never release a final version Apr 21 12:02:04 first stable release was Platero Apr 21 12:02:11 so this will be the second stable release Apr 21 12:02:13 2.2.5.0 Apr 21 12:02:51 http://blog.fonosfera.org/the-fonera-20-enduser-is-here-buy-it-now/ Apr 21 12:07:03 i dont need to buy Apr 21 12:07:05 lol Apr 21 12:08:29 iurgi this firmware will be available in enduser format and deveplover versions? Apr 21 12:08:56 yes Apr 21 12:08:58 all Apr 21 12:15:12 so this is not the final relese? Apr 21 13:00:55 hello all Apr 21 13:01:10 seems like te party is starting.. :) Apr 21 13:51:35 the new firmware name is flipper? Apr 21 13:51:37 :P Apr 21 14:05:13 Barbon: you can see a directory name, that's wonderful :p Apr 21 14:10:00 yea Apr 21 14:10:09 fliper is copriwight i think lol Apr 21 14:32:16 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9dW8RovvS4 Apr 21 14:35:28 yea Apr 21 14:35:29 lol Apr 21 14:36:20 XD Apr 21 14:37:27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iFeH4-U4og&feature=related Apr 21 14:37:35 that one is shorter Apr 21 14:37:36 :) Apr 21 14:39:27 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti-5kCAQtyU o_o Apr 21 14:39:33 a memaid? Apr 21 14:46:13 lol Apr 21 14:46:51 or is a freaking wood statue? :P Apr 21 14:47:31 nah Apr 21 14:47:34 I think it's a real one Apr 21 14:48:22 omg o_o Apr 21 14:51:30 look who is this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JopOhh5SuTE&feature=related Apr 21 14:51:31 o_o Apr 21 14:52:19 hi Apr 21 14:54:02 this guy is look as iurgi lol Apr 21 14:55:40 lol Apr 21 14:55:42 hi beh Apr 21 14:55:59 moin beh Apr 21 14:56:07 moin beh ;) Apr 21 14:56:22 who's this famous beh? Apr 21 14:56:34 i weirdo Apr 21 14:56:43 :p Apr 21 14:56:47 great typo Apr 21 14:56:53 i robot Apr 21 14:58:18 i'm just another nerd ;) Apr 21 14:58:54 a quiet sleepy one... Apr 21 14:59:11 ah, atari`s here as well Apr 21 14:59:49 grml Apr 21 14:59:52 hello anyone knows if fonera 2.0 can work as a bridge? i mean, like fonera 1.0 with francofon Apr 21 15:00:01 try to find anything torrent related on google... epicfail Apr 21 15:00:14 burton-ng: there will be a plugin shortly Apr 21 15:00:25 nbd: freilich ;) Apr 21 15:00:27 thank you Apr 21 15:05:29 the first screaming fish=> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0PtAuMKZV0 Apr 21 15:07:26 blogic: I think burton-ng meant wifi repeater Apr 21 15:07:36 burton-ng: it can be done in the developer mode Apr 21 15:07:55 but it's not 100% funciontal, the private signal sometimes seems to disappear Apr 21 17:14:27 one question: How do you connecto to a HD connected to lafonera from another network? Apr 21 17:24:39 F5 for Flipper does still not work :-( Apr 21 17:25:17 lol Apr 21 17:27:16 hi! Apr 21 17:28:05 hi Apr 21 17:28:54 do you have fonera 2.0? Apr 21 17:30:46 yes Apr 21 17:30:49 hmm Apr 21 17:48:17 Hello! Apr 21 17:48:39 Alguien es español? Apr 21 17:48:52 SI Apr 21 17:49:22 hola! Apr 21 17:49:39 pff... no se si podrias ayudarme.. pero esque ya estoy bastante desesperado... Apr 21 17:49:54 Dime a ver... Apr 21 17:50:13 pues resulta que me compre la fonera para probar antes de que saliera al mercado la fonera 2.0 Apr 21 17:50:22 para probar todo lo que se decia de ella y tal.. Apr 21 17:50:38 y resulta que primero la subi al firmaware tantor.. todo de coña.. Apr 21 17:50:42 muy bonito... Apr 21 17:50:51 y luego la actualize al platero... Apr 21 17:51:01 y despues de alli ya no pude hacer nada mas se me quedo tonta.. Apr 21 17:51:09 busque info en montones de foros.. Apr 21 17:51:16 desde ya ahce tres messes.. he probado.. Apr 21 17:51:24 un monton de tecnicas para repararla.. Apr 21 17:51:35 he mirado en wl wiki de fonosfera Apr 21 17:51:36 Tienes que hacer el método del redboot creo Apr 21 17:51:48 si el redboot lo tengo.. Apr 21 17:51:53 y puedo conectar con ella Apr 21 17:51:57 desde el cable de red Apr 21 17:52:05 y atraves del puerto com1 tambien! Apr 21 17:52:13 y si hasta he subido imagenes... Apr 21 17:52:15 y todo.. Apr 21 17:52:20 he probado miles de imagenes.. Apr 21 17:52:25 pero cuando las ejectua.. Apr 21 17:52:30 me salta error.. Apr 21 17:52:35 y lo que creo que hago mal.. Apr 21 17:52:42 es que no se que imagen poner.. Apr 21 17:53:00 quando accedi por primera vez a la fonera con el puerto com1 Apr 21 17:53:01 cual pones? Apr 21 17:53:11 resulto que me pedia que la formatease que no estaba ok Apr 21 17:53:20 he probado el platero directamente Apr 21 17:53:44 y pesa 4.7 mb y esta un monton de tiempo cargandolo.. Apr 21 17:53:49 mucho mas que 20 minutos.. Apr 21 17:53:55 haber yo te explico.. Apr 21 17:54:02 alli en la fonosfera Apr 21 17:54:02 prueba desde la caterpillar Apr 21 17:54:03 me sale.. Apr 21 17:54:14 que lo hago desde cute com.. Apr 21 17:54:29 pero yo no se como instalarlo en e ubuntu Apr 21 17:54:38 y ahora uso... una placa de rs 232 Apr 21 17:54:40 English please Apr 21 17:54:41 y el putty Apr 21 17:55:24 or pm :) Apr 21 17:55:46 Decodecoding.. si me ayudaras me harias un favor enserio.. yo no quiero ser pesada ni enrollarme... pero esque ya no se que mas puedo hacer.. intento aprender y leer no es que me guste solucions rapidas y no pensar ni leer ni buscar infornamcion.. pero esque ya no se que hacer :( Apr 21 17:56:06 podemos hablar en privado? Apr 21 17:56:11 OK Apr 21 17:56:13 para no molestar en el general..? Apr 21 17:56:15 gracias! Apr 21 17:57:12 mib_cmg9te: que te pasa? Apr 21 17:57:25 iurgi! Apr 21 17:57:32 Hola! Apr 21 17:57:36 hola Apr 21 17:57:39 tu tambien eres español!¿? Apr 21 17:57:48 :) Apr 21 17:57:52 anda! Apr 21 17:58:03 pffff estoy hablando con decodecoding! Apr 21 17:58:10 para ver si me puede ayuidar! Apr 21 17:58:17 Iurgi, can you help him? Apr 21 17:58:30 I can only refer him to fon wiki Apr 21 17:59:02 iurgi! Apr 21 17:59:05 him or her? Apr 21 17:59:08 si me puedieras ayduar... Apr 21 17:59:10 yo no quiero ser pesada ni enrollarme Apr 21 17:59:11 hahah Apr 21 17:59:13 him him Apr 21 17:59:13 a ver Apr 21 17:59:16 que problem tienes? Apr 21 17:59:23 podemos hablar por pribado? Apr 21 17:59:28 esque.. la gente se queja.. Apr 21 17:59:39 que my english is very bad xD Apr 21 18:00:47 qué tipo de errores que te? Apr 21 18:01:05 nbd: lol shut up Apr 21 18:01:15 Entschuldigung ein bitte nacth Apr 21 18:01:18 ¿por qué? Apr 21 18:01:27 Will there be a new image today? Apr 21 18:01:34 :) Apr 21 18:01:43 Decodecoding: blog Apr 21 18:02:02 nbd: jibbern sie denglish ? Apr 21 18:02:55 Decodecoding: http://blog.fonosfera.org/flipper-is-your-friend/ Apr 21 18:03:13 blogic: nee. spanglish (spanish aus google translate) Apr 21 18:04:15 sorry guys. I've been offline all day Apr 21 18:06:23 ne question: How do you connecto to a HD connected to lafonera from another network? Apr 21 18:06:46 what is another network? Apr 21 18:06:55 not myplae Apr 21 18:07:14 i mean not conected to the fonera network Apr 21 18:07:24 from the WAN port? Apr 21 18:08:06 erm... i mean how do you acces files of your hd connected to fonera 2.0 Apr 21 18:09:22 or the webcam Apr 21 18:10:07 Congratulations to the developers team. You've created such a nice device Apr 21 18:10:30 And I'm sure it will become better and better Apr 21 18:11:00 i guess you can't connect to http://fonera if you are not on myplace network Apr 21 18:11:13 yes you can Apr 21 18:11:23 so how do you do to connecto to your files which are onthe Hard drive conencted to la foenra 2.0 Apr 21 18:11:24 Oh sorry, you cant Apr 21 18:11:41 If you're connected to wan, use the IP Apr 21 18:11:50 yeah Apr 21 18:11:53 ftp is the best way in my opinion Apr 21 18:12:12 ftp:// fonera IP/ Apr 21 18:12:28 user: fonero pass: fonera password Apr 21 18:12:33 but i prettended to use the fonera as a securty webcam Apr 21 18:12:54 i guess i have to make my ip fixed Apr 21 18:13:01 Right Apr 21 18:13:07 to access it from the internet Apr 21 18:13:18 yes Apr 21 18:13:23 with noip for instance Apr 21 18:13:44 well, fonera has dyndns Apr 21 18:13:59 yeah thats what i wanted to know! Apr 21 18:14:08 thanks! Apr 21 18:14:28 i ordered it today thats why i ddint know Apr 21 18:14:49 don't worry, access from internet works great Apr 21 18:15:51 what is the cheapest working webcam out there for lafonera? Apr 21 18:16:06 Logitech E3500 Apr 21 18:16:11 i have an old logitech Apr 21 18:16:21 about 25 euro Apr 21 18:16:29 E3500 is proven Apr 21 18:16:31 that full rounded one with they grey adjustmnt ring Apr 21 18:16:35 great Apr 21 18:20:19 I can't wait to flash flipper Apr 21 18:21:16 is that a new firmwa? Apr 21 18:21:26 yup Apr 21 18:21:37 just released Apr 21 18:22:18 can it be loaded from upgrade pluging? Apr 21 18:22:32 I guess so Apr 21 18:22:48 col Apr 21 18:23:14 yes Apr 21 18:23:15 * RHarmsen still has to reflash his failsafe image, so I have some work to do Apr 21 18:35:05 Ha F5 works!!!!!! Thanks guys Apr 21 18:40:22 lol Apr 21 18:42:02 voorstad, RSS feed works as well ;) Apr 21 19:17:55 Hi all. What's the point of the facebook uploader? Apr 21 19:18:55 By the time I've plugged in a pen drive to my PC, and taken the memory cardout of my camera, and plugged it in, then made a directory and copied the images onto the pendrive, I might as well just have uploaded them via my PC Apr 21 19:19:43 or you just plug in the cam and copy the images via smaba or ftp Apr 21 19:20:00 hi, anyone here? Apr 21 19:24:15 the link for the developer firmware image on blog.fonosfera.org is wrong. Can anyone check it out? thx Apr 21 19:34:25 hi Apr 21 19:35:53 where i can found some web to explain howto developed fonera pluggin ? Apr 21 20:01:58 alguien en español ? Apr 21 20:12:14 where i can found some docs about howto developed fonera 2.0 plugins ? Apr 21 20:15:29 http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Fonera_Development Apr 21 20:15:41 this page may help Apr 21 20:28:01 but the pluggin only be written in lua or luci ,or can i write a pluggin for example in c or python or other language ? Apr 21 20:58:26 Hi again Apr 21 20:58:39 flipper already flashed Apr 21 21:07:58 Hi! I saw that Fon 2.0 can interact with OLPC meshes -- anyone know how that works? I thought you would need a Marvell wifi part (8388) for that. Apr 21 21:22:48 Never tried that feature Apr 21 21:25:43 ilidiam: theoretically you can use any language but to interface with the guy you need lua bindings Apr 21 21:25:51 lol Apr 21 21:25:55 *guy = gui Apr 21 21:26:49 for python you'd need to install the interpreter Apr 21 21:27:36 cjb: iirc you need a marvell usb wifi for that, so you're right Apr 21 21:28:43 in the fonosphera an wikifone all examples are written in lua Apr 21 21:29:48 ilidiam: I mean it depends how you define plugin; if plugins means a webif addition, then you need to use lua, if you mean arbitary packages, you can anything Apr 21 21:30:13 but i don't know for example the azureus plugin is a port of java Apr 21 21:30:17 ok Apr 21 21:30:53 it's pretty easy to write lua-C bindings Apr 21 21:31:06 that's how some of the plugins are written Apr 21 21:32:01 i'm going try to do it Apr 21 21:32:14 xMff: I see, thanks Apr 21 21:32:22 ilidiam: you already know the repository? Apr 21 21:32:27 does someone sell Marvell 8388 USB dongles, then? Apr 21 21:32:33 ilidiam: for source code examples and stuff Apr 21 21:33:49 i only saw a little a youtube plugin for fonera 2.0 Apr 21 21:35:10 i'm going to repository Apr 21 21:39:41 hi, anyone here with flipper installed? Apr 21 21:39:54 ME!!! Apr 21 21:39:57 ha ha Apr 21 21:40:00 Decodecoding: hehehe Apr 21 21:40:01 good Apr 21 21:40:09 can you please check in settings, languages Apr 21 21:40:14 yes Apr 21 21:40:20 whether "Polski" is there? Apr 21 21:41:12 polski is missing Apr 21 21:41:17 really?? Apr 21 21:41:18 darn Apr 21 21:41:27 I can't see it Apr 21 21:41:56 darn Apr 21 21:41:57 ok Apr 21 21:42:03 do you have ssh access? Apr 21 21:42:23 yes Apr 21 21:42:29 can you do Apr 21 21:42:46 ls /usr/lib/lua/luci/i18n/*pl.lua Apr 21 21:43:37 http://pastebin.com/m71c62588 Apr 21 21:43:55 darn... Apr 21 21:44:00 cat /Etc/config/luci Apr 21 21:44:08 cat /etc/config/luci Apr 21 21:44:26 cat: can't open '/Etc/config/luci': No such file or directory Apr 21 21:44:26 root@Fonera:~# Apr 21 21:44:32 cat /etc/config/luci Apr 21 21:44:34 :P Apr 21 21:44:42 ok Apr 21 21:45:22 http://pastebin.com/mb24a29f Apr 21 21:46:09 ok, it's missing there Apr 21 21:46:11 too bad Apr 21 21:46:12 :( Apr 21 21:46:16 well Apr 21 21:46:24 not too bad Apr 21 21:46:28 well, we only sold 1 F2.0 in Poland Apr 21 21:46:38 and it will be added in the next release Apr 21 21:46:43 They'll understand Apr 21 21:46:45 so, yeah, not that bad Apr 21 21:46:59 Iurgi, I didn't see the autoupdate button Apr 21 21:47:17 Next release? Apr 21 21:47:20 no Apr 21 21:47:23 it's in this one Apr 21 21:47:32 xMff : thx Apr 21 21:47:38 the thing is we made a workaround for it Apr 21 21:47:45 where? It appears when its available? Apr 21 21:47:48 so in the plugins page, you should see a new plugin Apr 21 21:48:01 that says: "Firmware upgrade to 2.2.5.0" Apr 21 21:48:11 does anyone have Platero installed? Apr 21 21:48:49 aha, so people with Platero will see it Apr 21 21:48:55 yes Apr 21 21:48:59 they should Apr 21 21:49:04 Nice workaround. Apr 21 21:49:09 yeah Apr 21 21:49:28 in Flipper, in the applications page, you will see a new table when there's a firmware available Apr 21 21:49:34 Available updates Apr 21 21:49:37 or something like that Apr 21 21:49:39 I see Apr 21 21:49:42 good Apr 21 21:49:46 :) Apr 21 21:50:07 I'm with the serial testing what we where discussing yesterday Apr 21 21:50:17 ok Apr 21 21:50:34 I'll post any debugging info I get Apr 21 21:50:45 great Apr 21 21:50:46 thanks! Apr 21 21:50:51 ok guys Apr 21 21:50:56 * iurgi is going to bed Apr 21 21:51:07 night Apr 21 21:51:09 See ya Apr 21 21:57:36 weee! Apr 21 21:57:38 greetings! **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Apr 22 02:59:57 2009