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Apr 26 08:05:36 <QuietRiot> Hi, ssh available on the consumer version of F2?
Apr 26 10:41:48 <xicoplus> hi there, are here some developers?
Apr 26 13:35:10 <kazwo> eh
Apr 26 13:47:59 <Decodecoding> eh
Apr 26 13:53:57 <kazwo> oh
Apr 26 13:57:07 <kazwo> how can i create time based actions? like a cronjob
Apr 26 14:04:39 <pm2036> kazwo: http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/wiki/fonstated ?
Apr 26 14:06:15 <kazwo> pm2036: thank you :)
Apr 26 14:41:02 <kazwo> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MytfhzcSF-Y&feature=channel_page
Apr 26 15:58:32 <jamesmck> Anyone about?
Apr 26 16:48:54 <dexter_> hi there
Apr 26 16:49:26 <dexter_> i have problems in changing my firmware user to developer
Apr 26 16:49:57 <dexter_> i have the new fon2 with the dolphin enduser firmware already installed
Apr 26 16:50:53 <dexter_> what fon says to me is that the firmware image is invalid (downloaded from fon web page)
Apr 26 16:51:06 <dexter_> any idea?
Apr 26 16:52:43 <dexter_> anybody is reading me? ummmmm
Apr 26 16:54:52 <kazwo> which firmware file do you use?
Apr 26 16:56:51 <dexter_> in the dolphin blog entry there are two developer firmwares, one is a rar file with three files inside, i've tested with all them and with the other one, so 4 files in total, in all of them the firmware was said to be invalid
Apr 26 16:59:13 <kazwo> do you unpacked the .tar.gz file?
Apr 26 16:59:35 <dexter_> yes yes
Apr 26 17:00:18 <kazwo> use the .tar.gz file as it is
Apr 26 17:01:47 <dexter_> mmm, ok, i'll test in a couple of hours (im here through a mobile), so the rar file is intended to be used as it?
Apr 26 17:02:31 <kazwo> yes. it includes the fon signature
Apr 26 17:03:38 <dexter_> okay, i'll test, i've asked this in the web page, if it works i'll post there that it ruld :))
Apr 26 17:03:56 <dexter_> thanks for your attention!!
Apr 26 17:04:16 <kazwo> have fun :)
Apr 26 18:21:57 <TeamLazybone> hi
Apr 26 18:22:41 <TeamLazybone> blogic ich habe mit der neuen firmeware der lafonera 2.0 wieder das problemm das ich vom privaten wlan nicht per ssh auf einem rechner zugreifen kann der mit kabel an der lafonera verbunden ist
Apr 26 20:22:36 <burton-ng> hello
Apr 26 20:22:47 <burton-ng> one question...how can i access my fonera 2 from the inet?
Apr 26 20:23:00 <burton-ng>  am using dyndns service
Apr 26 21:09:05 <jamesmck> hello - I wondered where I can purchase a fonera 2. I just get an error from the fon.com shop
Apr 26 21:11:16 <burton-ng> hello
Apr 26 21:11:18 <jamesmck> hello
Apr 26 21:11:36 <burton-ng> i am trying to update my new fonera 2.0
Apr 26 21:11:41 <jamesmck> you asked about fonera 2 - I was wondering where you managed to buy one?
Apr 26 21:11:45 <burton-ng> from the web intervface
Apr 26 21:12:02 <burton-ng> i bought it las t tuesday
Apr 26 21:12:17 <burton-ng> as soon as it was ready at 12 am
Apr 26 21:12:18 <burton-ng> lol
Apr 26 21:12:29 <jamesmck> :)
Apr 26 21:12:33 <jamesmck> from the web shop?
Apr 26 21:12:39 <burton-ng> yeah
Apr 26 21:12:52 <burton-ng> now there is no one left
Apr 26 21:13:07 <jamesmck> right - I only discovered they existed last week and counldn't understand why I couldn't buy one
Apr 26 21:13:11 <burton-ng> in a couple of weeks tehre'll be somo mere
Apr 26 21:13:15 <jamesmck> that's fine
Apr 26 21:13:24 <jamesmck> I picked up a batch of the old ones cheap
Apr 26 21:13:57 <burton-ng> yeh i have some old ones ..they are great as repeaters
Apr 26 21:14:35 <jamesmck> well they can run bgpd, openvpn and tcpdump which makes them pretty much ideal as silent routers to dump over the place
Apr 26 21:15:00 <jamesmck> thanks
Apr 26 21:15:00 <burton-ng> a hacker toy
Apr 26 21:15:18 <jamesmck> well they could do with more ports
Apr 26 21:15:20 <burton-ng> your welcome
Apr 26 21:15:23 <jamesmck> the wrt54gs had 5 :)
Apr 26 21:15:38 <burton-ng> anybody has a fonera 2?????
Apr 26 21:16:09 <burton-ng> which file do i have to choose to upgrade my fonera 2 from the web itnerface?
Apr 26 21:16:40 <burton-ng> http://blog.fonosfera.org/ here there are 4 options i need the ssh one so i am doubtin to choose the 1st or de 3rd..
Apr 26 21:16:50 <burton-ng> then it downloads as a tar or a .img
Apr 26 21:16:56 <burton-ng> which one?
Apr 26 21:19:11 <DaW> 1st and 3rd are the same
Apr 26 21:19:13 <DaW> in theory
Apr 26 21:22:08 <burton-ng> but
Apr 26 21:22:29 <burton-ng> do i have to choose the tar or the .image file when i pick the file with the web interfae updater?
Apr 26 21:22:50 <DaW> no idea
Apr 26 21:22:52 <burton-ng> iif i pick the 1st link a tar file is downloaded
Apr 26 21:22:59 <DaW> oh
Apr 26 21:23:02 <burton-ng> then i hace to uncompress it?
Apr 26 21:23:03 <DaW> you feed the tar
Apr 26 21:23:08 <DaW> the whole thing
Apr 26 21:23:14 <DaW> i have goptten my fonera yet
Apr 26 21:23:20 <DaW> but somebody explaied above
Apr 26 21:23:23 <DaW> to someone else
Apr 26 21:23:29 <DaW> is that you feed the whole tar
Apr 26 21:23:52 <burton-ng> and what is the difference between 1st and 3er?
Apr 26 21:24:20 <burton-ng> i am afraid of bricking it
Apr 26 21:24:27 <burton-ng> this things are dangerous
Apr 26 21:24:33 <DaW> nah
Apr 26 21:24:37 <DaW> shouldnt brick it5
Apr 26 21:24:40 <DaW> and if you do
Apr 26 21:24:46 <DaW> you can use redboot to flash it
Apr 26 21:25:07 <burton-ng> well maybe it is not possible to access redboot
Apr 26 21:25:14 <burton-ng> as on the 2100 foneras
Apr 26 21:25:24 <burton-ng> that's why i a afraid of it
Apr 26 21:26:03 <xMff> 1 is to upload through the webif
Apr 26 21:26:10 <xMff> 3 is for redboot
Apr 26 21:26:23 <burton-ng> yeah i thought so
Apr 26 21:26:25 <xMff> 2 and 4 are the same just for enduser (no ssh)
Apr 26 21:26:34 <DaW> can you access redboot through telnet on 2.0 aswell ?
Apr 26 21:26:36 <burton-ng> then i ahve to pick the .tar file
Apr 26 21:26:40 <DaW> in the 2 sec before booting
Apr 26 21:26:48 <xMff> afaik yes
Apr 26 21:27:29 <burton-ng> the .tar or do i uncmpress the tar and pick .image??
Apr 26 21:27:35 <DaW> no
Apr 26 21:27:37 <DaW> upload the tar
Apr 26 21:27:45 <burton-ng> weird...
Apr 26 21:28:51 <xMff> according to the fon wiki redboot telnet is open per default
Apr 26 21:30:40 <burton-ng> well i chose the .tar file and it says invalid image
Apr 26 21:30:42 <burton-ng> ??
Apr 26 21:31:24 <xMff> if you currently installed version is too old, it won't accept the new versions, use redboot
Apr 26 21:31:31 <xMff> s/you/the/
Apr 26 21:31:56 <xMff> http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_Update_Instructions
Apr 26 21:37:01 <burton-ng> i dont understand why web upgrade methd doesnt work
Apr 26 21:39:55 <pm2036> burton-ng: what is the installed version actually?
Apr 26 22:14:05 <bpedro> Hello, I'm getting the msg "This is not a FON upgrade image or hotfix. Retry with another file" whenever trying to upgrade throught the Web interface. Any ideas?
Apr 26 22:15:51 <pm2036> bpedro: what is the image that you use?
Apr 26 22:16:45 <bpedro> I tried several: 20081222_FON2202_2.2.1.0_TANTOR.image didn't work, then I tried 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image and also didn't work
Apr 26 22:17:16 <bpedro> the fonera 2 became like this after trying to upgrade to tantor
Apr 26 22:17:29 <pm2036> through the webinterface you have to use the tar.gz file
Apr 26 22:17:47 <bpedro> hmmm
Apr 26 22:17:50 <bpedro> tar.gz
Apr 26 22:18:10 <bpedro> can I use the flipper tar.gz ?
Apr 26 22:18:26 <bpedro> this one: 20090421_FON2202_2.2.5.0_Flipper_DEVELOPER.tar.gz
Apr 26 22:18:45 <pm2036> yes
Apr 26 22:18:52 <pm2036> directly into the webinterface
Apr 26 22:19:05 <pm2036> (but maybe doesn't work if you are using an old firmware)
Apr 26 22:20:00 <bpedro> my web interface is right now showing: "Ooooops! Looks like the La Fonera is not working properly. You need to reinstall the fon software in it. Please, provide a valid full firmware in the box below (you can find them at fon's download page) or contact fon support at support@fon.com"
Apr 26 22:20:08 <pm2036> ah ok
Apr 26 22:20:23 <pm2036> you are on the failsafe
Apr 26 22:20:45 <bpedro> became like this after trying to upgrade to tantor from the original fonera 2 firmware
Apr 26 22:20:51 <pm2036> ok
Apr 26 22:21:38 <pm2036> it's a developper fonera2 (buy before April 21st ) or an enduser?
Apr 26 22:21:56 <bpedro> developer
Apr 26 22:22:37 <pm2036> have you previously update the failsafe image?
Apr 26 22:22:38 <bpedro> I probably didn't use the right firmware while trying to upgrade in the first place
Apr 26 22:22:43 <bpedro> no
Apr 26 22:23:06 <bpedro> my first action was to upgrade to tantor using 20081222_FON2202_2.2.1.0_TANTOR.fon on the original web interface
Apr 26 22:23:16 <pm2036> ok so you have probably an old and buggy failsafe image
Apr 26 22:23:17 <bpedro> after that I could see the new tantor web interface
Apr 26 22:23:32 <bpedro> but after switching off and on again it became useless
Apr 26 22:23:44 <bpedro> should I upgrade the failsafe image ?
Apr 26 22:23:54 <bpedro> I already have 20090206_FON2202_failsafe.image
Apr 26 22:24:00 <pm2036> not through the web interface
Apr 26 22:24:02 <bpedro> and have tried to upgrade it using Redboot
Apr 26 22:24:06 <bpedro> without success
Apr 26 22:24:27 <pm2036> and have you tried to update the firmware?
Apr 26 22:24:31 <bpedro> got through the whole process, but at the end I got disconnected from Redboot and id (apparently) didn't upgrade
Apr 26 22:24:56 <bpedro> what do you mean? upgrade the firmware? using Redboot?
Apr 26 22:25:04 <pm2036> yes
Apr 26 22:25:19 <bpedro> I've tried to upgrade the failsafe image
Apr 26 22:25:28 <pm2036> and not the firmware?
Apr 26 22:25:41 <bpedro> using the process described here: http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/wiki/redboot
Apr 26 22:25:48 <bpedro> how do you upgrade the firmware using Redboot?
Apr 26 22:26:31 <bpedro> after doing  "fis create image" I waited for a while and then I was disconnected from Redboot ("Connection closed by foreign host.")
Apr 26 22:26:35 <pm2036> http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_Update_Instructions
Apr 26 22:26:57 <bpedro> same thing
Apr 26 22:27:09 <bpedro> I did that for the failsafe image
Apr 26 22:27:32 <bpedro> which image should I use there?
Apr 26 22:27:42 <bpedro> 20081222_FON2202_2.2.1.0_TANTOR.image ?
Apr 26 22:28:01 <pm2036> "image2" is the failsafe
Apr 26 22:28:07 <pm2036> image is the firm
Apr 26 22:28:19 <bpedro> ahhh
Apr 26 22:28:33 <pm2036> you can use 20090421_FON2202_2.2.5.0_Flipper_DEVELOPER.image
Apr 26 22:28:47 <bpedro> I was trying to save the failsafe into *image*, not *image2*
Apr 26 22:28:50 <bpedro> bummer
Apr 26 22:28:58 <bpedro> I hope I can get into Redboot again
Apr 26 22:29:08 <bpedro> it's kinda tricky
Apr 26 22:29:35 <pm2036> :)
Apr 26 22:29:39 <bpedro> ok, I should then try to upgrade the failsafe into image2
Apr 26 22:29:53 <bpedro> thanks for the chat...
Apr 26 22:31:31 <pm2036> your welcome ;)
Apr 26 22:31:48 <bpedro> so, basically the Redboot "kicked" me at the end
Apr 26 22:32:01 <bpedro> is it a normal behavior when you try to save a wrong image?
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