**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 29 02:59:57 2009 Apr 29 07:01:02 Hi! Buongiorno! Apr 29 07:01:31 hola Apr 29 07:53:46 hi all :) Apr 29 07:54:06 blogic: you didn't send me the f2 image to test :P Apr 29 07:58:15 no Apr 29 07:58:21 Andy80: i tested it myself last night Apr 29 07:58:45 managed to download 5 torrents, upload 1800 pics to facebook and have the webcam running all the time Apr 29 07:58:51 load was at 8.93 :D !! Apr 29 07:58:55 and luci was responsive Apr 29 07:59:05 cool :) Apr 29 07:59:08 i need to make a hacks to the torrent gui to make it work again Apr 29 07:59:20 we expect a really nice 2.2.6.0 then ;) Apr 29 07:59:34 of course Apr 29 07:59:35 :) Apr 29 07:59:52 think about ipod, iphone, vista,.... any de vice really Apr 29 08:00:00 version 1.0 always has minor software issues Apr 29 08:00:04 nothing to worry about Apr 29 08:00:06 :) Apr 29 08:00:31 Andy80: i will send image later today to testers Apr 29 08:00:33 vista is not a device... is a finger in the a... :D Apr 29 08:01:25 anyway... a friend of mine told me that f2 doesn't make coffee, cook, ecc... we should fix theese issues ;) Apr 29 08:01:26 :D Apr 29 08:01:44 hehe Apr 29 08:06:27 well, there is lua-rs232 and the open source coffee machine so... time for a new plugin ;) Apr 29 08:13:25 question from an ignorant (me): new plugins are written with lua language? or even in C ? (it would be a dream to have Python ;) ) Apr 29 08:14:31 usually lua, can be C too Apr 29 08:14:35 or both Apr 29 08:15:04 ui integration is done with lua Apr 29 08:18:30 python is not supported Apr 29 08:19:36 I know...just said it would be great :) Apr 29 08:19:58 I'm reading LUA is also used in World of Warcraft... here's where I did hear about it :) Apr 29 08:20:44 Good morning. Blogic I flashed back to the official dolphin release. Apr 29 08:22:54 Decodecoding: ok Apr 29 08:23:00 Decodecoding: my tests wetn really well Apr 29 08:23:10 fon is up after a night of intense downloading Apr 29 08:23:27 Andy80: yep, also in a bunch of other software, it's designed to be embedded in a host apllication but can be used stand alone as well Apr 29 08:23:41 but if you're a python fan, Lua isn't that bad Apr 29 08:23:46 Changes after the aborted version I was going to test? Apr 29 08:23:51 grml Apr 29 08:23:57 now it crahsed Apr 29 08:23:58 fuck Apr 29 08:24:11 :-( Apr 29 08:24:49 xMff: I'll give a look to it then :) Apr 29 08:25:42 afaik Celestia uses Lua too Apr 29 08:29:44 hello Apr 29 08:34:20 Is today the day i'll be able to switch from 'enduser' to 'dev' on a 21th bought fon 2 ? :) Apr 29 08:35:25 coolix: sure Apr 29 08:35:37 coolix: sorry the image on the server seems to have abug flashing Apr 29 08:35:44 iurgi is looking into as we speak Apr 29 08:35:54 blogic: yeah i read that Apr 29 08:36:24 i also read redboot access via the network has been disabled Apr 29 08:36:30 blogic: should I try bluetooth on the latest release? Apr 29 08:36:57 blogic: I get this in my logread while downloading bt: Apr 21 23:00:04 Fonera local6.err chillispot[4974]: redir.c: 1589: 134 (Transport endpoint is not connected) shutdown socket for reading Apr 29 08:36:59 rwhitby: still old kernel Apr 29 08:37:10 blogic: ok, thx. Apr 29 08:37:18 Decodecoding: yes, ignore it Apr 29 08:37:30 Decodecoding: i will disbale chillispot output in future releases Apr 29 08:37:31 ok Apr 29 08:38:26 In order not to flood the channel with logread messages I'll try to put them all in a mail Apr 29 08:38:27 blogic: there's no such bug Apr 29 08:38:55 people is trying to reflash from 2.2.5.0 enduser to 2.2.5.0 developer Apr 29 08:39:08 and that is not possible Apr 29 08:39:15 the developer image is fine Apr 29 08:39:23 ? Apr 29 08:39:28 how is that not possible ? Apr 29 08:39:31 ok Apr 29 08:39:32 hmm Apr 29 08:39:38 well Apr 29 08:39:40 ok Apr 29 08:39:40 :) Apr 29 08:40:11 well, the image checks for previous versions before flasing Apr 29 08:40:15 not the same version Apr 29 08:40:24 ah Apr 29 08:40:25 ok Apr 29 08:41:31 iurgi: you mean using a soldering iron to gain access to redboot via JTAG and flash with the dev image from there is the only way for now ? Apr 29 08:41:54 ?? Apr 29 08:41:56 lol Apr 29 08:42:01 no Apr 29 08:42:07 I don't mean that Apr 29 08:42:23 I mean you can't flash from 2.2.5.0 to 2.2.5.0 Apr 29 08:42:34 ok Apr 29 08:42:46 coolix: redboot access and flashing works fine Apr 29 08:42:55 dev mode can be enabled easily Apr 29 08:43:05 we are making a plugin for it Apr 29 08:43:12 iurgi: ok Apr 29 08:43:25 waiting for the plugin right now... Apr 29 08:43:54 Decodecoding: i read on boards it was disabled from the 21th sold batch Apr 29 08:44:16 yes, it's disabled :o Apr 29 08:44:24 :'( Apr 29 08:44:56 soldering iron to the rescue :) Apr 29 08:45:23 coolix: ? Apr 29 08:45:26 soldering iron? Apr 29 08:45:34 I already told you that is not necessary Apr 29 08:45:42 who told you you need a soldering iron? Apr 29 08:46:55 iurgi: to plug the jtag on a serial port and re-enabled netboot network access, i did it with 1.0 Apr 29 08:47:09 lol Apr 29 08:47:19 did you manage to use jtag on a fonera 2199?? Apr 29 08:47:20 jtag on a serial? Apr 29 08:47:25 2100* osrry Apr 29 08:47:28 they are 2 different things, imo Apr 29 08:47:28 :) Apr 29 08:47:57 coolix: and I must insist, I told you that dev mode can be enabled with a plugin, no need for redboot Apr 29 08:48:21 superb Apr 29 08:48:43 iurgi have you already cooked that path? Apr 29 08:49:19 iurgi: i got you, i'll wait for the plugin but i cant promess i'll leave the reboot access locked forever ;) Apr 29 08:50:34 coolix: oh, no problem Apr 29 08:50:39 you're free to access it Apr 29 08:50:52 but, don't need to solder anything to get access to redboot... Apr 29 08:50:53 :P Apr 29 08:52:08 in fact redboot has been always accesible except late foneras sold the 21th and on Apr 29 08:52:37 yes Apr 29 08:52:41 iurgi: yeah as soon as i gain access to ssh with the plugin, i'll be able to do it with the mtd device nodes Apr 29 08:53:15 ? Apr 29 08:53:17 hmm Apr 29 08:53:36 coolix, sounds like you got some concepts wrong Apr 29 08:53:47 from ssh you can't edit the redboot conf Apr 29 08:54:11 iurgi does dyndns feature will be working on routers with NAT in the future? Apr 29 08:54:35 iurgi: with a modified kernel it would work (see the former camicia hack) Apr 29 08:54:36 no Apr 29 08:54:51 xMff: no Apr 29 08:55:00 sorry Apr 29 08:55:19 i guess the workaround to acces fonera from the internet is to redirect ports on the virutal servers tag on my dsl router... Apr 29 08:55:25 hmmm ok, still I don't udnerstand the need for redboot, unless you need to recover from a fucked up fonera Apr 29 08:55:26 iurgi: mtd -e "RedBoot config" write out.hex "RedBoot config" Apr 29 08:55:38 with this http://fonera.info/camicia/out.hex Apr 29 08:55:47 good Apr 29 08:55:54 and it open the redboot ;) Apr 29 08:56:01 so it's not that bad after all, happy to see that Apr 29 08:56:18 yeah Apr 29 08:56:24 moring pm2036 Apr 29 08:56:31 morNing Apr 29 08:56:34 hi coolix :) and hi all :) Apr 29 08:56:47 hi Apr 29 08:57:37 but warning, this out.hex modify the boot sequence Apr 29 08:58:04 is it even compatible with the current fonera version? Apr 29 08:58:14 I see Apr 29 08:58:24 I'm no redboot expert but maybe the format / location / size changed Apr 29 08:58:29 it probably has the old partition names in it Apr 29 08:58:32 yes Apr 29 08:58:39 please guys Apr 29 08:58:48 unless you know what you are doing, dont play with redboot Apr 29 08:58:59 we will have a plugin to enable dev mode Apr 29 08:59:03 I think we can perhaps make and extract of the Redboot config from a developper fonera ;) Apr 29 08:59:10 of course blogic! Apr 29 08:59:16 yesterday I got a case of a guy who fucked his fonera yesterday Apr 29 08:59:18 alternativley if you cannot wait revert to an older firmware and then upgrade to 2.2.5.0 dev Apr 29 08:59:49 i mean, if we want disaster, we can ask leeman to join and spread some of his ideas Apr 29 08:59:55 lol Apr 29 08:59:56 hehe Apr 29 09:00:01 yeah i screwed my fonera 2100 up with redboot magic Apr 29 09:00:03 i am sure he will tell us that lilo can work and post a 2km email Apr 29 09:00:17 lol Apr 29 09:00:26 i prefer grub :p Apr 29 09:00:36 sure :) Apr 29 09:00:52 wrap your idea in an email Apr 29 09:01:01 the long it is the less likely anyone will read it :) Apr 29 09:01:12 the thing with information is, that you wanna try to compress it Apr 29 09:01:19 so people grasp it easily Apr 29 09:01:19 I can make a mail with "blah blah blah"^^ Apr 29 09:01:21 :) Apr 29 09:01:29 juhu !! :) Apr 29 09:01:37 but Steven have also good idea ;) Apr 29 09:01:56 (it's his that find the bug of too long password) Apr 29 09:02:20 that' snot an idea Apr 29 09:02:48 hum... Apr 29 09:03:30 pm2036: i agree Apr 29 09:03:35 i never said anything bad Apr 29 09:03:45 i juts pointed out, that communication is difficult Apr 29 09:03:58 he has the nack of not focusing on what he wants to say Apr 29 09:04:12 and to extract the 2% important stuff is a nightmare Apr 29 09:04:30 and he loves to copy & paste millions of lines in his "HTML" emails Apr 29 09:04:47 pm2036: redboot in foneras+ worked? Apr 29 09:04:56 or the IP was also unconfigured? Apr 29 09:05:01 it did work, right? Apr 29 09:05:01 iurgi:I think yes Apr 29 09:05:12 anyone can confirm? Apr 29 09:05:13 yes, and on fonera 1.0 2200 Apr 29 09:05:16 * iurgi always uses serial Apr 29 09:05:23 2200 and 2201 is open Apr 29 09:05:36 * pm2036 is also use always serial Apr 29 09:05:41 2100 is closed Apr 29 09:05:50 ok Apr 29 09:06:14 yeah 2100 is a pain Apr 29 09:06:59 well see you all Apr 29 09:07:05 cheerio Apr 29 09:12:14 * Andy80 doesn't have a serial/jtag cable and does'nt want to spend 15€ on ebay -.- Apr 29 09:13:19 Andy80: dont Apr 29 09:13:32 Andy80: we have a small design flaw in our switch between dev and non dev Apr 29 09:13:39 Andy80: it will be fixed within 24hours Apr 29 09:13:53 Andy80: its normal that alot of people point at the one bug one has Apr 29 09:14:01 Andy80: its called "causing panic" Apr 29 09:14:01 :) Apr 29 09:14:16 blogic: flaw? you mean I cannot flash the -dev image using ethernet cable and redboot procedure? Apr 29 09:14:33 ok, I'll wait :) Apr 29 09:14:54 what's the difference from dev and non-dev? only ssh enabled? Apr 29 09:15:06 yes Apr 29 09:15:09 and the colour Apr 29 09:15:10 :) Apr 29 09:15:18 and dev image allows you to upload unsigned plugins Apr 29 09:15:22 ooooooooooohhhhh...... :D Apr 29 09:15:31 enduser is sort of locked in that way to guarantee quality Apr 29 09:16:18 * Andy80 wants -dev images... forever :) Apr 29 09:16:38 a device without ssh access... is not a a device for me ;) Apr 29 09:17:44 see ya later Apr 29 09:17:51 and another important feature of dev image is the QRM, which is what i'm waiting for Apr 29 09:18:11 qrm? Apr 29 09:18:37 quasi-repeater mode Apr 29 09:18:38 wifi.wan Apr 29 09:18:42 wifi-wan Apr 29 09:18:57 why quasi? Apr 29 09:19:15 ohh... the repeater... like the old "Ponte" script for Fonera1 :) Apr 29 09:19:31 ponte = bridge (for non italian speaker) Apr 29 09:19:31 yep, I hate cables... Apr 29 09:19:54 and QRM is just the same term in FreeWLAN for fon1 Apr 29 09:20:38 tonybo: don't worry about cables... people invented wireless connection.... we'll invent wireless power supply too :D Apr 29 09:21:26 see ya ;) Apr 29 09:22:32 tesla coil :D Apr 29 10:57:53 halo Apr 29 10:58:24 :-| Apr 29 10:58:37 Hi Bro Apr 29 10:59:36 Decodecoding: i sent you a private message Apr 29 10:59:41 is it ready the plugin fur developer Apr 29 10:59:43 ? Apr 29 10:59:51 decofon: not quite yet Apr 29 10:59:56 decofon: we need to test it Apr 29 11:00:04 which means flashing 5 fon and running the plugin Apr 29 11:00:04 mkey Apr 29 11:00:12 decofon: it will be available during today Apr 29 11:00:19 dank u man Apr 29 11:00:45 do we have to do something on the dashboard or it will just appear on applications pane? Apr 29 11:02:03 it will just appear magically :) Apr 29 11:02:16 i like magic man Apr 29 11:02:22 thank you 4ur work Apr 29 11:02:29 gotta go Apr 29 11:02:33 ciao Apr 29 11:10:50 hi all Apr 29 11:10:59 hi Darick Apr 29 11:29:31 i should of bring the fon 2.0 with me at work Apr 29 11:30:05 coolix: yeah Apr 29 11:30:13 coolix: i am lucky, f20 is my work :) Apr 29 11:30:36 coworkers are harassing me with questions Apr 29 11:30:41 lucky you :) Apr 29 11:39:27 iurgi, I didn't tell you yesterday that it works Apr 29 11:39:32 now I have developer firm Apr 29 11:39:35 thank you Apr 29 11:40:29 nkieto, maybe, if Iurgi agrees, that hack that worked from you should be in the fon wiki, so others can profit your experience Apr 29 11:41:42 i don't remember hack, i didn't note it Apr 29 11:41:49 :( Apr 29 11:42:01 of course is needed redboot connection Apr 29 11:42:04 with serial cable Apr 29 11:42:33 ** wondering if irc title "oh my... oh my... what is coming soon" refers to the future or the past ** Apr 29 11:42:38 ok, so better wait for the official easy method (A) Apr 29 11:55:53 Can anybody check if after a reflash, Fonera 2.0 takes by itself the WiFi networks SSIDs set in fon.com user profile? Apr 29 11:57:05 I've noticed that I have to enter in my profile and save values for fonera to adopt them. If not, FON_FREE_INTERNET and MyPlace remain as SSIDs broadcasted Apr 29 12:02:25 Decodecoding: it's not a hack Apr 29 12:02:26 lol Apr 29 12:02:35 it's just changing one value in a conf file Apr 29 12:02:43 from dev=0 to dev=1 Apr 29 12:02:44 haha Apr 29 12:02:48 :$ Apr 29 12:03:45 For me, anything wich implies editing any file with vi is a hack Apr 29 12:03:57 lol Apr 29 12:04:08 then do it with sed Apr 29 12:04:09 or uci Apr 29 12:04:10 :) Apr 29 12:04:34 I will Apr 29 12:16:51 Deco, this is the file: /etc/config/registered Apr 29 12:17:10 Thanks Apr 29 13:03:48 hi! Apr 29 13:05:21 hi Apr 29 13:08:34 I'm testing irssi :) Apr 29 13:09:27 irssi? Apr 29 13:10:21 aha, http://irssi.org/ I thiught I missed a plugin Apr 29 13:12:14 Apr 29 13:12:14 I have the log of the sessions, so that you can read quietly at home ... Apr 29 13:29:24 if now i have fw version flipper end user can i update the fw to developer version? Apr 29 13:33:33 Hello! Apr 29 13:33:47 someone knows how to make a JTAG? Apr 29 13:34:00 en la Fonera 2.0 Apr 29 13:34:14 mib_s1r569: why would you need jtag ? Apr 29 13:34:35 because I do not know how to repair Apr 29 13:34:43 repair what ? Apr 29 13:34:44 I uploaded the last image Apr 29 13:34:58 I loaded flipper and I get an error Apr 29 13:35:02 kill init linux Apr 29 13:35:07 ? Apr 29 13:35:10 blogic: mib_s1r569 is the guy that fucked up the board_config info Apr 29 13:35:16 ah ok Apr 29 13:35:22 tough luck Apr 29 13:35:27 then I can do? Apr 29 13:35:29 how did you break board config Apr 29 13:35:30 :( Apr 29 13:35:37 you wont be able to jtag Apr 29 13:35:41 jtag wont help Apr 29 13:35:45 exactly Apr 29 13:35:49 ah Apr 29 13:35:52 you killed the calibration data of your wifi Apr 29 13:35:57 the fon is dead imho Apr 29 13:36:07 iurgi: can we get the calibration data from the fab ? Apr 29 13:36:09 there is no solution: ( Apr 29 13:36:27 how did you break it ? Apr 29 13:36:43 as I've broken me? Apr 29 13:36:46 blogic: already asked for that Apr 29 13:36:53 i would like to know Apr 29 13:37:02 I do not know Apr 29 13:37:17 are you italian ? Apr 29 13:37:24 lol Apr 29 13:37:29 he's spanish Apr 29 13:37:34 ok Apr 29 13:37:36 hahaha Apr 29 13:37:42 is Apr 29 13:37:52 as Apr 29 13:37:53 not bad translator xD Apr 29 13:37:53 We're the best screwing things... Apr 29 13:38:01 hehe Apr 29 14:03:13 blogic> you killed the calibration data of your wifi Apr 29 14:03:22 how can you check that? Apr 29 14:16:22 lol Apr 29 14:16:27 you don't need to check it Apr 29 14:16:34 you'll know it Apr 29 14:16:56 well, maybe not Apr 29 14:26:34 7na Apr 29 14:28:18 8yu Apr 29 14:28:29 olà Apr 29 14:29:33 ola Apr 29 14:30:46 news about deveploment? Apr 29 14:30:56 Barbon: working on it right now Apr 29 14:31:07 I just need to know one thing from blogic and then test it Apr 29 14:32:15 working what? o.o Apr 29 14:32:27 the bridge? Apr 29 14:32:32 of London? xD Apr 29 15:09:30 hello room Apr 29 15:12:15 hi Apr 29 15:20:08 damn it Apr 29 15:20:14 nobody was home to collect f2 Apr 29 15:20:15 :( Apr 29 15:21:20 ouch Apr 29 15:22:56 their gonna try again tomorrow Apr 29 15:23:56 i h8 that Apr 29 15:30:23 I usually get this kind of things send to work Apr 29 15:32:13 me too Apr 29 15:32:30 hmm Apr 29 15:32:31 me too Apr 29 15:32:36 but then i work from home Apr 29 15:32:37 :) Apr 29 15:43:04 news? XD Apr 29 15:45:13 if i don't see the famous end-user -> dev switcher plugin online tonight, I'll try the dangerous failsafe image solution on the board to have my 2.2.5 dev... Apr 29 15:45:29 it's not dangerous at all Apr 29 15:45:40 it's actually a boring but good option Apr 29 15:46:23 hope the failsafe boot will never get wrong Apr 29 15:48:17 it won't Apr 29 15:48:23 unless you break itintentionally Apr 29 15:49:24 great! then the only concern is the long wait of 30 minutes... thx iurgi Apr 29 15:56:27 tonybo: and failsafe can be done 200 times if you like Apr 29 15:56:39 even if failsafe fails you can failsafe again Apr 29 15:58:28 http://boards.fon.com/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=5035&start=20 so what says ggerard on his post in option 2 is true! Apr 29 15:59:33 let me see Apr 29 16:00:31 burton-ng: yes Apr 29 16:02:08 that's a way to change the firmware to 2.2.5.0 dev? it seems easy... Apr 29 16:02:18 hmm Apr 29 16:02:26 this seems to be a big problem for everyone Apr 29 16:02:27 := Apr 29 16:02:36 I don0't understand what he explains Apr 29 16:02:39 it's qutie horrible Apr 29 16:02:41 basically Apr 29 16:02:45 there's a failsafe image Apr 29 16:02:50 that lets you install any image Apr 29 16:03:03 to get into failsafe, plug the fonera while you're pressing reset Apr 29 16:03:14 blogic why it's a big problem? Apr 29 16:03:18 hold it pressed for a little while (about 10-15secs) Apr 29 16:03:31 Darick: i mean the main problem users report is switching to dev mode Apr 29 16:03:36 doing so is actually easy Apr 29 16:03:41 yes Apr 29 16:03:50 actually it will be ready in a few mins Apr 29 16:03:52 just not documented imho :) Apr 29 16:03:55 I'm finishing another task now Apr 29 16:03:58 and iurgi has a better fix Apr 29 16:04:04 and I will do it after it Apr 29 16:04:13 say in about 30min Apr 29 16:04:31 if iurgi has a better fix, i'll be patience then Apr 29 16:04:48 i prefer do it on the right ways Apr 29 16:04:54 yeah wait as the upgrade takes 30mins too Apr 29 16:05:39 wait for iurgi Apr 29 16:05:50 okey Apr 29 16:05:57 either tonight or tomorrow the "Applications" page will have a new item Apr 29 16:06:46 once you are in dev mode, all upgrades are automatically dev images .am i right? Apr 29 16:07:31 yes Apr 29 16:34:01 hello Apr 29 16:34:31 hola!!! Apr 29 16:34:49 necesito ayuda con la fonera2.0 y un Hdd por usb Apr 29 16:34:50 buena entra jajaja Apr 29 16:34:55 entrada* Apr 29 16:35:03 jejeje Apr 29 16:35:06 por el hello?? Apr 29 16:35:30 por el saludo en ambos idiomas jeje Apr 29 16:35:42 como me han dado la bienvenida con oh my ... good!!! Apr 29 16:36:03 es de aprende ingles con goma espuma Apr 29 16:36:04 jejeje Apr 29 16:36:26 darick, tu tienes la fonera?? Apr 29 16:36:34 seguro que si Apr 29 16:36:36 jijiji Apr 29 16:36:55 euskokali: de donde has salido tu? Apr 29 16:36:56 yo aun no la he catado ando en el curro y me acaba de llegar Apr 29 16:37:19 pues exactamente del.... foro de fon Apr 29 16:37:20 si Apr 29 16:37:23 he visto un link Apr 29 16:37:30 y me he metido Apr 29 16:37:33 euskokali: in english please Apr 29 16:37:36 XD Apr 29 16:37:37 lo que no se si se mosquearán porque hablemos en español Apr 29 16:37:37 aqui la mayoria hablan en ingles Apr 29 16:37:39 jajajaja Apr 29 16:37:39 where are you from? Apr 29 16:37:51 basque country!!! Apr 29 16:37:54 yeah Apr 29 16:37:57 that was obvious Apr 29 16:37:57 lol Apr 29 16:38:02 where in the basque country? Apr 29 16:38:20 iin north of spain Apr 29 16:38:29 si sereis vecinos y todo iurgi Apr 29 16:38:35 near la france Apr 29 16:38:43 jaajaja Apr 29 16:38:44 donde sarcosi Apr 29 16:38:48 jajaja Apr 29 16:39:01 euskokali: all the basque country is near france XD Apr 29 16:39:03 iurgi tu eres de por aqui Apr 29 16:39:06 no se por que me da Apr 29 16:39:08 gernika Apr 29 16:39:12 XD Apr 29 16:39:31 con ese name de la kale borrika Apr 29 16:39:32 jejeje Apr 29 16:39:39 jaja Apr 29 16:39:45 y el tuyo de borracho Apr 29 16:39:48 ahora vuelvo Apr 29 16:39:51 asi que en gernika tenemos una fon Apr 29 16:39:58 no Apr 29 16:40:03 de kalimero, ehh Apr 29 16:40:07 desgraciadamente creo que no hay Apr 29 16:40:08 ahhhhh Apr 29 16:40:09 ok ok Apr 29 16:40:09 no de kalimocho Apr 29 16:40:12 un poso si Apr 29 16:40:14 joder Apr 29 16:40:23 de donde eres que pones kalimoCHo?!?!?! Apr 29 16:40:26 que animal! Apr 29 16:40:35 XD Apr 29 16:40:50 del puerto viejo donde se invento el kalimotxo en 1974 Apr 29 16:40:55 jajajaja Apr 29 16:40:57 en fiestas del puerto Apr 29 16:41:06 klaro, de ahi lo de kalimero ;) Apr 29 16:41:15 si mal no recuerdo , de todas maneras la wikipedia lo tiene registrado Apr 29 16:41:19 mi fonera desgraciadamente esta en madrid Apr 29 16:41:26 ya entonces existia Apr 29 16:41:28 si, esta en la wikipedia y eso va a misa! Apr 29 16:41:48 pues la mia la pedi el 22 y hoy me a llegado Apr 29 16:42:06 yo tengo unas 30 Apr 29 16:42:24 XD~ Apr 29 16:42:26 yo estoy en fon como alien desde agosto pero hasta ahora no me he lanzado a ser bill Apr 29 16:42:48 bueno, a ver si hay suerte y se te conecta algun vecino o algo Apr 29 16:42:56 bueno, que problema tienes con el disco? Apr 29 16:43:01 bill o linus Apr 29 16:43:06 si te parece lo hablamos en ingles o si no en uno privado Apr 29 16:43:07 yo? Apr 29 16:43:11 realmente me da igual Apr 29 16:43:18 ah Apr 29 16:43:19 no yo Apr 29 16:43:24 bueno, algunos bills hacen pasta Apr 29 17:24:12 my F2 has been on for 1day and 8hrs.. yey.... :) Apr 29 17:25:46 good Apr 29 17:51:13 seems like the Switcher Plug-in won't be born today... Apr 29 17:58:59 i'm back Apr 29 17:59:02 xD Apr 29 18:02:32 tonybo: nope Apr 29 18:02:38 I broke my promise, sorry Apr 29 18:06:44 what promise, it's about the enduser -> dev button? Apr 29 18:07:25 yes Apr 29 18:07:40 what happend? Apr 29 18:07:46 I promised to have it today Apr 29 18:07:50 but it's not gonnahappen Apr 29 18:08:14 ahm Apr 29 18:08:38 iurgi:no worries. at least the failsafe solution can help me get to the 2.2.5dev from end-user Apr 29 18:08:47 yes Apr 29 18:08:58 i'm trying to do that i can't Apr 29 18:09:09 but, no that, sorry xD Apr 29 18:10:00 i plug, reset, unplug but nothing Apr 29 18:13:20 what is"nothing"? Apr 29 18:14:30 yeah, i explain better xD Apr 29 18:14:49 i've tried the steps of the fon board Apr 29 18:14:58 push reset button til 20 seconds Apr 29 18:15:06 lights go off Apr 29 18:15:09 lights go on Apr 29 18:15:12 unplug dc Apr 29 18:15:14 replag dc Apr 29 18:15:25 but it don't reflash with failsafe Apr 29 18:15:34 2.2.5.0 still on fonera Apr 29 18:16:32 ?? Apr 29 18:16:39 Darick: you're doing itwrong Apr 29 18:16:39 lol Apr 29 18:16:45 who told you to do itlike that? Apr 29 18:16:48 xDD Apr 29 18:16:51 forget what you saw in the forums Apr 29 18:16:56 unplug the fonera Apr 29 18:17:00 1) unplug the fonera Apr 29 18:17:07 2) press and hold reset Apr 29 18:17:13 3) plug fonera Apr 29 18:17:20 4) wait 15secs Apr 29 18:17:24 5) release reset Apr 29 18:17:26 XD Apr 29 18:17:45 yeah, exactly what i do xDDDD Apr 29 18:17:50 no Apr 29 18:17:53 xDD Apr 29 18:17:55 nothing to do with what you do Apr 29 18:18:00 you said: Apr 29 18:18:04 yeah i was kidding Apr 29 18:18:08 ah Apr 29 18:18:09 lol Apr 29 18:18:10 ok Apr 29 18:18:17 basically Apr 29 18:18:33 if the fonera detects the reset button pressed when it is turned on, it goes to failsafe Apr 29 18:18:36 ok? :) Apr 29 18:18:41 try again Apr 29 18:18:41 :) Apr 29 18:18:42 i have to see something on the leds? Apr 29 18:19:38 ys Apr 29 18:19:43 after a little while Apr 29 18:19:58 ouh Apr 29 18:20:06 yeah i think this works Apr 29 18:20:20 because fonera do other "flashings" Apr 29 18:20:21 xD Apr 29 18:20:34 i feel stupid xDD Apr 29 18:21:07 hello Apr 29 18:21:10 the power and wlan leds will have the orange led blinking Apr 29 18:21:27 and there will be a SSID saying FON_ATTENTION_PLEASE_CONNECT Apr 29 18:21:30 Ãor similar Apr 29 18:21:37 and there will be a SSID saying FON_ATTENTION_PLEASE_CONNECT_USING_CABLE Apr 29 18:21:40 orsimilar Apr 29 18:21:52 you can conly connect tofailsafe using cable Apr 29 18:21:59 the fonera has 192.168.1.1 as IP Apr 29 18:22:15 and the password for the web access is the serial number Apr 29 18:22:23 i am trying to downgrde using failsafe mode.... i upgrded with platero dev ...but there is no charging bar Apr 29 18:22:43 ? Apr 29 18:22:44 dmwn it i am using wlan Apr 29 18:22:47 thanks a lot iurgi Apr 29 18:22:47 I don't understand Apr 29 18:23:20 u connected to that FON_ATTENTION essid Apr 29 18:23:22 me too Apr 29 18:23:29 but i did it wirelessly Apr 29 18:23:40 ah Apr 29 18:23:44 you need to use cable Apr 29 18:23:45 :) Apr 29 18:23:48 and i am trying to load platero Apr 29 18:23:54 so what do i do now... Apr 29 18:23:58 page doesn't load Apr 29 18:24:07 i am afraid to interrupts something Apr 29 18:24:07 burton-ng: what IP address? Apr 29 18:24:38 BTW, fon team really should document this in the fon wiki, as it is really the last straw... Apr 29 18:24:46 192.168.10.1 but a prompt comes asking for user and paswword it says openwrt Apr 29 18:25:32 burton-ng: failsafe mode is in 192.168.1.1 Apr 29 18:25:36 not in 192.168.10.1 Apr 29 18:25:43 there should be no answer on 192.168.10.1 Apr 29 18:25:46 then i see i get redirected to 192.168.1.1 Apr 29 18:25:57 !?!? Apr 29 18:26:00 wtf Apr 29 18:26:07 burton-ng: just go directly to 192.168.1.1 Apr 29 18:26:13 xDDDD Apr 29 18:26:15 is there a prompt for user/pass? Apr 29 18:26:22 yeah i triend to connect 192.168.10.1 and it went to 192.168.1.1 Apr 29 18:26:24 tonybo: last straw for what? Apr 29 18:26:31 btw, I think it IS documented Apr 29 18:26:32 XD Apr 29 18:26:35 anyway the paged did load and i upgraded the .tar file Apr 29 18:26:39 burton-ng: that makes no sense Apr 29 18:26:45 what page loaded? Apr 29 18:26:49 what did it look like? Apr 29 18:27:45 hold on i ill give you screeshoot righan away Apr 29 18:27:47 Darick: any luck yourself? Apr 29 18:27:50 burton-ng: ok Apr 29 18:27:54 well Apr 29 18:27:56 iurgi: last straw to go end-user to dev (may be i didn't pay attention that it's already in the wiki ...sorry) Apr 29 18:27:57 some text is enough Apr 29 18:28:10 tonybo: it isnot thelast straw Apr 29 18:28:17 it can be donewith a single click Apr 29 18:28:20 with a plugin Apr 29 18:28:21 yes iurgi! what is the user/pass to enter, i've tried root/admin but no work Apr 29 18:28:22 oooops! Looks like the La Fonera is not working properly. You need to reinstall the fon software in it. Please, provide a valid full firmware in the box below (you can find them at fon's download page) or contact fon support at support@fon.com Apr 29 18:28:24 just it's not ready yet Apr 29 18:28:51 but I would NEVER recommend anybody (and docummenting it is almost as recommending these brave few ones) to use this method Apr 29 18:28:51 thats whan says Apr 29 18:28:55 cono Apr 29 18:28:57 burton-ng: ok Apr 29 18:29:08 is it a fonera 2.0 Beta or new? Apr 29 18:29:24 my fonera is the 2.0 boght the 21 april Apr 29 18:29:28 ok Apr 29 18:29:38 what image did you use for flashing it? Apr 29 18:29:42 cono Apr 29 18:29:51 platero dev form blogosfera Apr 29 18:29:53 20090421_FON2202_2.2.5.0_Flipper_DEVELOPER.tar.gz? Apr 29 18:29:58 nope Apr 29 18:30:00 the previous Apr 29 18:30:03 use that one Apr 29 18:30:08 why do you want platero? Apr 29 18:30:12 it's deprecated Apr 29 18:30:16 obsolete Apr 29 18:30:17 old Apr 29 18:30:19 no good Apr 29 18:30:20 caca Apr 29 18:30:25 jejeje Apr 29 18:30:25 xDDDDDDDDDD Apr 29 18:30:29 :) Apr 29 18:30:31 because i pretended to upgrade to fliper Apr 29 18:30:45 and so have developer mode enabled Apr 29 18:31:05 i thought i had to downgrade Apr 29 18:31:15 burton-ng, iurgi means that you can go directly to fliper developer version Apr 29 18:31:32 yeah but i had read to do this Apr 29 18:31:34 it's no necessary to bypass to platero Apr 29 18:31:54 mi irssi is broken Apr 29 18:31:55 yeah, i think i read the same on fon boards Apr 29 18:32:08 but iurgi told me how to do right Apr 29 18:32:12 now that page doesnt load when i try to flash it with platero what shoud i do? it is on the update process? it started 6min away Apr 29 18:32:23 ...but there is no bar advance Apr 29 18:32:26 or anyhint Apr 29 18:32:28 iurgi paste again the steps Apr 29 18:32:35 page is white Apr 29 18:33:01 1. i started fail safe mode Apr 29 18:33:21 2 connected to FON ATTENTIO essid Apr 29 18:33:29 burton-ng no Apr 29 18:33:29 3 enter user and psword Apr 29 18:33:40 don't connect to the wireless Apr 29 18:33:44 use the cable Apr 29 18:33:48 yeah but i did! Apr 29 18:34:04 so do the steps again Apr 29 18:34:04 burton-ng: in failsafe there's no bar advance Apr 29 18:34:04 do i interrupt whatever is doing the fonera? Apr 29 18:34:06 just wait Apr 29 18:34:06 go to failsafe again Apr 29 18:34:12 for 28min Apr 29 18:34:24 you can stop it if it's flahisng platero Apr 29 18:34:25 oook maybe it is doing its job right now Apr 29 18:34:28 it's useless 30min Apr 29 18:34:35 just unplug it Apr 29 18:34:38 but there is no problem right Apr 29 18:34:40 the firmware will be broken Apr 29 18:34:47 so it will go to failsafe automagically Apr 29 18:34:50 ok trust you (si no te rajo payo) Apr 29 18:34:52 then do it again with Flipper Apr 29 18:34:54 jajaja Apr 29 18:34:55 xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Apr 29 18:35:00 LOL Apr 29 18:35:44 los 3 españoles y hablando en ingles, si esk... Apr 29 18:36:08 neinneinnein Apr 29 18:36:15 jaaaaaaa Apr 29 18:36:21 neeeeeeeeiiiin Apr 29 18:36:33 otro español por aqui... Apr 29 18:36:34 xD Apr 29 18:36:44 si al final somos todos xDDDD Apr 29 18:36:51 ya te digo Apr 29 18:37:27 tengo una lagartija azul en mi boca. cosquillas que me Apr 29 18:37:40 ? Apr 29 18:37:52 jajajajaja Apr 29 18:37:57 yo tambien, evidentemente Apr 29 18:38:12 iurgi you found cyrus? Apr 29 18:38:31 que ip le doy a mi tarjeta ethernet para pillar la fonera? no engancha macho Apr 29 18:38:48 esta en automatico le pongo una tipo 192.168.1.102? Apr 29 18:38:56 por ejemplo Apr 29 18:39:07 pero tienes que esperar una media hora desde que empezo Apr 29 18:39:13 no te impacientes ke es peor! Apr 29 18:39:14 Darick: si Apr 29 18:39:17 iops Apr 29 18:39:19 burton-ng: si Apr 29 18:39:21 xD Apr 29 18:39:27 media hora?!? Apr 29 18:39:27 no no Apr 29 18:39:29 a ver Apr 29 18:39:36 no? Apr 29 18:39:43 burton-ng: si estabas flasheando platero desde el modo failsafe, paralo Apr 29 18:39:46 apaga y enciende Apr 29 18:39:55 entrara automaticamente en modo failsafe de nuevo Apr 29 18:40:02 usa Flipper esta vez Apr 29 18:40:16 desde que le pasas el firmware a la interfaz, espera 30min Apr 29 18:40:17 ahi si Apr 29 18:40:31 iurgi, a mi me pide user/pass, cual uso, root/admin? Apr 29 18:41:24 pero es que no pilla la red Apr 29 18:41:29 conexion limitada... Apr 29 18:41:43 Darick: root/serial number Apr 29 18:41:50 entonces es que sigue en dhcp Apr 29 18:41:50 ahora le he puesto a mi lan 192.168.1.102 pero no la coge Apr 29 18:41:53 ah joder es verdad Apr 29 18:42:02 burton-ng: pero has reiniciado?? Apr 29 18:42:06 sip Apr 29 18:42:17 y ves la señal "ATTENTION_PLEASE..."? Apr 29 18:42:18 ha vuelto a salir el essid FON_ATTENTIO..... Apr 29 18:42:20 sii Apr 29 18:42:20 ok Apr 29 18:42:31 he usado el calbe esta vez para conectar Apr 29 18:42:35 a que puerto tienes conectado el ethernet? Apr 29 18:42:42 al blanco Apr 29 18:42:47 a cual debo conectarlo? Apr 29 18:42:50 :) Apr 29 18:42:51 al negro Apr 29 18:42:52 :D Apr 29 18:42:54 negro Apr 29 18:42:55 jajajjajjajajjajajjajja Apr 29 18:42:57 jajaja Apr 29 18:42:58 JODER LA OSTIA Apr 29 18:42:59 :D Apr 29 18:43:09 siempre he palmado en los putos test de 50% Apr 29 18:43:10 jajajja Apr 29 18:43:13 yo ya estoy actualizando Apr 29 18:43:14 jajaja Apr 29 18:43:40 vale la pena poner el firmware dev? Apr 29 18:43:49 DMNSPA: depende Apr 29 18:43:58 tiene 2 ventajas principales Apr 29 18:44:04 yo esk soy muy curioso Apr 29 18:44:11 1) acceso por ssh, que si sabes un poco de linux te permite cacharrear Apr 29 18:44:26 2) modo repetidor (solo esta en modo desarrollador porque es experimental) Apr 29 18:44:29 aha Apr 29 18:44:42 despues, hay plugins en modo beta etc que salen antes en modo desarrollador Apr 29 18:44:42 ok ya va...jajaj Apr 29 18:44:48 pero por lo demas es todo igual Apr 29 18:44:50 esty actualizando ya Apr 29 18:44:55 pues puede que lo haga... Apr 29 18:44:58 lo de modo enduser no es para limitar nada Apr 29 18:45:04 es solo para que los manazas no la jodan Apr 29 18:45:04 ya mas o menos me he enterado de lo que tengo que hacer Apr 29 18:45:10 DMNSPA bueno y que la interfaz verde es mas chula Apr 29 18:45:12 xDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Apr 29 18:45:19 DMNSPA: lo mejor que puedes hacer, es esperar a mañana Apr 29 18:45:32 porque solo habra que pulsar un boton para pasar a modo developer Apr 29 18:45:38 sin tanto lio como estos impacientes Apr 29 18:45:40 :) Apr 29 18:45:48 que se pueden cargar su fonera por jugar Apr 29 18:45:49 jajaja Apr 29 18:45:49 sin lio no tiene gracia Apr 29 18:45:50 ten cuidao con las promesas iurgi xD Apr 29 18:45:52 iugi estas substimando lo que un manazas puede hacer con o sin enduser Apr 29 18:45:52 no, no hay peligro Apr 29 18:46:00 jajajja anda que no hay formas de joderlo todo Apr 29 18:46:00 jaja Apr 29 18:46:01 jajajjaj Apr 29 18:46:01 hola me llamo coolix, jugamos con la fonera, no habla espanol :) Apr 29 18:46:02 cierto Apr 29 18:46:12 hahahaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahaaaaa Apr 29 18:46:17 jajaja Apr 29 18:46:19 xDDDD Apr 29 18:46:24 coolix come on Apr 29 18:46:28 coolix: tu nombre parece el del gay de asterix y obelix Apr 29 18:46:35 me recuerda a las chicas de apocalipsis now Apr 29 18:46:37 xDDDDDDDDDDDD Apr 29 18:46:40 XD Apr 29 18:46:46 yeah lets switch to inglis Apr 29 18:46:47 studied spanish for 2 years, can't remember shit :) Apr 29 18:46:50 true Apr 29 18:47:35 iurgi and with the rapidshare problem Apr 29 18:47:36 cuando podremos conectar la lanzadora de misiles usb esa de brando a la fonera? Apr 29 18:47:40 ese plugin es basico Apr 29 18:47:44 a ver si entra algun chino y ya la hemos liao Apr 29 18:47:57 xD Apr 29 18:48:49 joder en fon si la ponéis a la venta en vuestro site a un precio modico de 25 clavos mucha peña la cogeria Apr 29 18:49:10 yo creo ke 49 esta bien Apr 29 18:49:18 lanzadora de misiles + junto con la webcam Apr 29 18:49:25 < burton-ng> yeah lets switch to inglis <- anda, que menos mal Apr 29 18:49:25 jaja Apr 29 18:49:31 xDD Apr 29 18:49:39 no no ..me refiero a la lanzadora de msiles Apr 29 18:49:40 jajaj Apr 29 18:49:43 Darick: regarding rapidshare... wait till cyrusff is back Apr 29 18:49:53 oook iurgi Apr 29 18:51:31 una cosilla... Ahora mismo tengo enchufado a la fonera un disco de 300 GB con alimentación externa y formato NTFS Apr 29 18:51:42 he leido que NTFS no esta totalmente soportado Apr 29 18:51:57 a lot of crap is being said about failsafe in forums Apr 29 18:52:03 se puede convertir a EXT3 sin perder datos? Apr 29 18:52:10 crap for what coolix? Apr 29 18:52:13 yeah... coolix Apr 29 18:52:17 NTFS está soportado pero va muy lento Apr 29 18:52:19 y se hace incomodo Apr 29 18:52:24 ways to acces fail safe mode... Apr 29 18:52:25 Darick: the method to get to failsafe Apr 29 18:52:26 pero no se te va a estropear nada Apr 29 18:52:36 coolix: yes, a LOT of crap Apr 29 18:52:42 y que me recomendais? fat32, ext2, ext3?? Apr 29 18:52:46 I suggest everybody to come and ask here Apr 29 18:52:47 ah ok Apr 29 18:52:53 iurgi said it clear... "hold reset while plugin to AC(DC adaptor.and hold it 15secs" Apr 29 18:52:55 before trusting the forums Apr 29 18:53:05 burton-ng: yes Apr 29 18:53:23 iugi you said that was on the wiki Apr 29 18:53:28 DMNSPA: sinceramente... depende de que sistema operativo utilices en tu ordenador Apr 29 18:53:36 donde vas a enchufar el disco a parte de la fonera? Apr 29 18:53:43 ubuntu Apr 29 18:53:46 al final nos vamos a liar mezclando idiomas xD Apr 29 18:53:57 normalmente estara solo en la fonera Apr 29 18:54:15 i heard people doing strange things to enter failsafe mode Apr 29 18:54:23 no me preocupa mucho que no se pueda leer desde windows Apr 29 18:54:26 me the first, for example Apr 29 18:54:36 DMNSPA: entonces ext3 Apr 29 18:54:36 i read the wrong way Apr 29 18:54:38 si no, fat Apr 29 18:54:54 aunque he visto que hay algo por ahi que puede leer particiones ext3 desde windows, pero nunca lo he probado Apr 29 18:56:03 joder en teoría hasta se puede usar el Mac OS Plus no en HD tambien no? Apr 29 18:56:29 lei por ahi que se instalaban unos paquetillos y ya funcionaba Apr 29 18:57:38 oi Apr 29 18:57:56 holà! Apr 29 18:58:25 hi Apr 29 18:59:54 bonjour Apr 29 19:00:11 notice about working of bridge plugin? :D Apr 29 19:00:32 iurgi speaking about here today about it, and say that he have only to test Apr 29 19:00:55 ? Apr 29 19:00:57 what? Apr 29 19:01:09 Barbon: you're a bit drugged, right? Apr 29 19:01:11 lol Apr 29 19:01:16 xDDDDDDDDDDD Apr 29 19:01:26 no i am junk Apr 29 19:01:27 prolly read that on a forum Apr 29 19:01:28 what bridge plugin? Apr 29 19:01:33 coolix: lol Apr 29 19:02:22 iurgi> what bridge plugin? ===> today you are speaking about an plugin Apr 29 19:02:37 and you say that you need some know from blogic Apr 29 19:02:40 and you test it Apr 29 19:02:47 righ? Apr 29 19:08:50 iurgi: you are still alive? XD Apr 29 19:12:45 Barbon: Apr 29 19:12:49 you're mixing 3 things Apr 29 19:12:57 1) enduser->dev plugin Apr 29 19:13:12 2) LAN bridge mode Apr 29 19:13:19 3) WiFi-WAN mode Apr 29 19:13:25 that's why I asked about drugs... Apr 29 19:13:58 I needed help from blogic for 1), I talked about testing 2) and I never mentioned 3) which is what you are interested in Apr 29 19:14:01 :) Apr 29 19:15:01 can i have some drugs too? Apr 29 19:15:47 sure \____________ Apr 29 19:16:34 \o/ Apr 29 19:19:31 ok all Apr 29 19:19:33 I'm leaving Apr 29 19:19:34 ciao Apr 29 19:19:41 ciao dude Apr 29 19:19:47 gracias por todo iurgi Apr 29 19:19:52 good evening Apr 29 19:20:04 un seg cuando termian de actualizar no avisa verdad? en fail safe) Apr 29 19:20:20 gracias crack Apr 29 19:20:21 no Apr 29 19:20:22 no avisa Apr 29 19:20:53 venga, grcias a todos Apr 29 19:20:54 bye bye Apr 29 19:20:56 gracias iurgi Apr 29 19:21:08 Darick ha termiando tu update ya? Apr 29 19:21:14 no, aun sigue Apr 29 19:21:22 yo lllevo ya unos 35 min Apr 29 19:21:27 pero no me atrevo Apr 29 19:21:30 al menos los leds siguen parpadeando amarillo-naranja Apr 29 19:21:31 jaja Apr 29 19:21:32 tu primero.. Apr 29 19:21:34 jaaja Apr 29 19:21:37 da igual Apr 29 19:21:37 jajaja Apr 29 19:21:41 seguiran asi Apr 29 19:21:51 se reincia sola por cierto Apr 29 19:22:06 xD Apr 29 19:22:07 entonces cuando desaparezca el essid ese raro ya esta... Apr 29 19:22:58 O_0 Apr 29 19:23:01 he abierto otra ventana para ver si entra en el panel de control y sigue saliendo lo de la pantalla blanca Apr 29 19:23:09 asi ke seguire esperando Apr 29 19:23:13 si tio Apr 29 19:23:19 somos los putos conejillos Apr 29 19:23:21 jajajaja Apr 29 19:23:24 jajajajajaja Apr 29 19:23:47 todo esto ha sido iurgi ke keria ke petasemos nuestras foneras xD Apr 29 19:23:58 (yo también estoy atento a todo lo que hacéis) - sois unos valientes :) Apr 29 19:24:09 you're wondering when the fonera will finish flashing in failsafe ? Apr 29 19:24:17 yeah coolix Apr 29 19:24:36 inconscientes Apr 29 19:24:37 jajajja Apr 29 19:24:41 the leds still blinking Apr 29 19:24:42 my spanish isn't so bad after all :) Apr 29 19:24:45 so we're waiting Apr 29 19:24:49 ok Apr 29 19:24:53 you're right coolix Apr 29 19:25:23 we're even praying for the holy 59€ it costs Apr 29 19:25:28 where are you from, by the way coolix? Apr 29 19:25:35 burton-ng xDDDDDD Apr 29 19:25:37 France Apr 29 19:26:03 a french speaking english and understanding spanish, that's good Apr 29 19:27:11 two days ago it seemed like redboot was the only way to get to dev... and this was quite simple (crossig fingers) Apr 29 19:27:30 there are many secrets out there Apr 29 19:27:50 yeah Apr 29 19:28:08 xDDD Apr 29 19:28:24 burton-ng mi fonera se ha parao Apr 29 19:28:30 parece ke esta empezando a arrancar Apr 29 19:28:33 i think FON knows how to get everything done and fully working but they like us to be chating about fon Apr 29 19:28:33 jaajaj Apr 29 19:28:53 coolix fonera is booting :D Apr 29 19:29:10 which essid ? Apr 29 19:29:16 MyPlace :D Apr 29 19:29:19 normal one? Apr 29 19:29:22 cool! Apr 29 19:29:27 it works! Apr 29 19:29:30 ok it works Apr 29 19:29:36 i guess mine will take 2 min more Apr 29 19:29:45 i have to change my ip Apr 29 19:29:52 i come back in a few minutes Apr 29 19:30:06 hey mine boots too Apr 29 19:30:53 problem is the truth is being lost in multiple satements like "a friend of a friend told me that if you put the fonera in the freezer for 30secs and prank zapatero on the phone during that same amout of time, you'll get to dev mode" Apr 29 19:33:07 coolix: i dont know zapateros phone number :( Apr 29 19:33:24 xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Apr 29 19:33:43 too bad then, you're stuck in enduser mode Apr 29 19:33:51 ok i have green screen :D Apr 29 19:34:35 :D Apr 29 19:34:59 good work Apr 29 19:35:11 you're the best :) Apr 29 19:35:11 if ssh dont work, reboot the f2 once to generate the ssh keys Apr 29 19:35:17 congrats Apr 29 19:35:25 kacer2k, you can try now safely xDD Apr 29 19:36:02 jejeje no, in this moment i don't have my fonera Apr 29 19:36:29 ah right, you're still at work Apr 29 19:36:33 i I've left my Fonera at Xataka Apr 29 19:36:37 yeah, it worked... fail safe mode is safe Apr 29 19:36:47 and now i have dev mode enabled Apr 29 19:37:05 to xataka? Apr 29 19:37:42 it is a website Apr 29 19:37:52 yeah yeah Apr 29 19:37:53 sort of engadget Apr 29 19:38:05 you work at xataka kacer2k? Apr 29 19:38:23 xataka.com i kown a whiskito Apr 29 19:38:28 no no Apr 29 19:38:35 i don't work in xataka Apr 29 19:38:56 but i have a friend in xataka Apr 29 19:39:12 aaahm Apr 29 19:40:17 I go to dinner Apr 29 19:40:32 Xataka? Apr 29 19:40:36 and after to sofa Apr 29 19:40:39 where is Xataka? Apr 29 19:40:46 ke aproveches! Apr 29 19:41:01 gracias que hoy se ha hecho duro el día Apr 29 19:41:03 ciao Apr 29 19:41:10 que es xataka? Apr 29 19:41:15 aparte de la pelicula Apr 29 19:41:24 xataka es un blog de tecnología Apr 29 19:41:50 comentaba que se había dejado mi fonera a un componente de xataka Apr 29 19:41:52 ah no, calla, que la pelicula era gattaca Apr 29 19:41:54 xataka dot com Apr 29 19:42:00 xDDDDDDDDD Apr 29 19:42:04 :) Apr 29 19:42:13 pues ya puede hacer una buena review que si no voy y le parto las piernas Apr 29 19:42:33 hahah Apr 29 19:42:36 jejeje, no creo que hagan nada, se la he dejado a titulo personal. Apr 29 19:43:04 ^^ Apr 29 19:43:12 los de xataka son buenos xavales! Apr 29 19:43:13 ciao Apr 29 19:43:21 con la no accion conseguira lo mismo Apr 29 19:43:23 y el blog es una pasada^^ Apr 29 19:43:54 joer.. hasta estas horas trabajais? Apr 29 19:44:13 no es muy tarde pablo? Apr 29 19:44:52 nada Apr 29 19:44:56 como los boinas verdes Apr 29 19:44:59 anywhere, anytime Apr 29 19:45:09 :w Apr 29 19:45:39 donde trabajas pablo? Apr 29 19:45:41 hehe Apr 29 19:45:56 somos pocos y la mies es mucha Apr 29 19:46:08 segun el blog official de fon es el ingeniero de fon ^^ Apr 29 19:46:15 no hombre Apr 29 19:46:18 heheh Apr 29 19:46:19 en fon somos todos ingenieros Apr 29 19:46:25 como en google Apr 29 19:46:30 xD Apr 29 19:46:42 no has visto el comentario que hizo en el blog? Apr 29 19:46:48 ah vale Apr 29 19:46:53 quien? Apr 29 19:46:58 que comentario? Apr 29 19:47:10 no me fije en el autor Apr 29 19:47:20 que comentario? Apr 29 19:47:24 solo lei el texto xD con perdon de pablo xD Apr 29 19:47:29 mira que me cabreo rapido eh Apr 29 19:47:33 como la mona chita Apr 29 19:47:36 xabi el xaval del blog Apr 29 19:47:45 ah, xabi del rey Apr 29 19:48:00 haha no te enfades hombre ;) Apr 29 19:48:08 ah, si mira Apr 29 19:48:13 pablo, ingeniero de fon Apr 29 19:48:19 no pone "el" Apr 29 19:48:28 ya ya Apr 29 19:48:34 a ver si nos limpiamos las gafunis Apr 29 19:48:45 que vemos articulos donde no los hay Apr 29 19:48:46 solo era para alavarte no seas malo :( Apr 29 19:49:08 casi todos sois españoles no pablo? Apr 29 19:49:10 huelo mal? Apr 29 19:49:15 que me quieres alaVar? Apr 29 19:49:24 xD Apr 29 19:49:26 no, iurgi es vasco Apr 29 19:49:29 los demas si, casi todos Apr 29 19:49:31 xDDDD Apr 29 19:49:34 hahahahah Apr 29 19:49:40 bueno, hay de todo Apr 29 19:49:56 tenemos un frances, un mejicano, un par de alemanes... Apr 29 19:50:03 :O Apr 29 19:50:10 y porque tanta diversidad xD? Apr 29 19:50:27 dos suecas, una hongkonita o como se diga Apr 29 19:50:47 dos suecas? mmm Apr 29 19:51:05 becarias o ke? Apr 29 19:51:05 ah, argentinos tambien hay uno Apr 29 19:51:42 como no xD Apr 29 19:51:43 hay que ver eh, treinta anos despues de pajares y esteso y las suecas siguen teniendo las mismas connotaciones Apr 29 19:51:51 no son becarias Apr 29 19:51:54 xDDD Apr 29 19:51:58 lo siento!! Apr 29 19:52:34 hay de todo, falta kofi annan y la ONU Apr 29 19:53:00 me voy a comerrr :P Apr 29 19:53:08 nos vemos! ciao! Apr 29 19:53:12 en la diversidad esta la perfeccion, hermanos mios Apr 29 19:54:52 ha sido un placer, voy a ver si ceno cualquier cosa. pasadlo bien Apr 29 19:55:14 se habla por aqui castellano y todo :D Apr 29 19:56:09 yeah wifi bridge connection is working Apr 29 19:56:10 y muy bueno Apr 29 19:56:15 after dev mode of course Apr 29 19:56:38 bueno, algun burro dice "alavar" en lugar de "alabar", pero la intencion es lo que cuenta Apr 29 19:56:57 que yo me habia ido ya Apr 29 19:57:26 al final que me entere que ha pasado con cambiar de la version enduser a la developer Apr 29 19:57:34 es que he llegado hace un rato y no me enterado mu bien Apr 29 19:57:51 nada aun Apr 29 19:57:56 iurgi ha dicho ke mañana Apr 29 19:57:58 pues cuando el ayatolah iurgi firme un paquete con un shell script de tres lineas Apr 29 19:58:06 si quieres puedes hacer el fail mode para cargar el firmware Apr 29 19:58:07 pero haciendo el failsafe no es dificil Apr 29 19:58:11 tendras un .tgz firmado con el que podras pasar de end user a developer Apr 29 19:58:56 oie pablo, a ti te funciona bien el gestor de rapidshare? Apr 29 19:59:10 no se, nunca lo he probado Apr 29 19:59:18 por que, cuentame tus cuitas Apr 29 19:59:48 le estuve comentando a iurgi y me dijo ke hablara con cyrus, pero ya viendo ke tu tambien eres ingeniero te preguntaba Apr 29 19:59:55 jajajajjaja Apr 29 20:00:00 el problema ke tengo esk no consigo ke me funcione para descargar de rapidshare Apr 29 20:00:00 vaya cachondeo con lo de ingeniero Apr 29 20:00:09 a que te tragas el titulo Apr 29 20:00:09 xD Apr 29 20:00:13 i am trying to install neorouter on my 2.0 do i have o feed the .tar file? Apr 29 20:00:14 total, para lo que vale Apr 29 20:00:28 no te pongas asi hombre!! jaaj Apr 29 20:01:04 na pues ya me espero para que salga Apr 29 20:01:10 pues eso, ke le meto el usuario y clave de la cuenta premium, le meto la url de descarga, se pone en "pendiente" y a los pocos segundos pasa a "abortado" Apr 29 20:01:12 sin saber por ke Apr 29 20:01:12 bueno, contare hasta tres Apr 29 20:01:18 alguien ha sabe si se pueden compilar las openssl ? Apr 29 20:01:26 se pueden, ilidiam Apr 29 20:01:34 pero despues de que me deje los cuernos para no usarlas Apr 29 20:01:49 jejeje y eso ? Apr 29 20:01:52 para comprobar la firma RSA de los paquetes .tgz, que antes eran .fon Apr 29 20:02:12 te digo que se puede, pero ocupa mucho para los pirricos 4 MB de flash que tiene la fonera Apr 29 20:02:43 la libreria que perjenye (no tengo enyes), librsa, tiene 10k frente a los +500Kb que ocupa openssl Apr 29 20:02:50 ya no se a ver si puedo hacer un version lite Apr 29 20:02:59 bueno, ya la hay Apr 29 20:03:11 http://www.yassl.com/ Apr 29 20:03:12 para crear un gestor de correo para una aplicacioncilla que tengo en mente Apr 29 20:04:03 guay Apr 29 20:04:14 me lo guardo :P Apr 29 20:07:29 que quieres, mandar spam desde la fonera? Apr 29 20:07:42 voy a contar hasta cuatro... Apr 29 20:08:44 no que va Apr 29 20:08:55 un lector rss que me manda mail Apr 29 20:09:15 cuando salgan noticias que me correspondan con patrones que adjunto Apr 29 20:11:15 mira que buena idea Apr 29 20:11:57 y para que necesitas ssl? Apr 29 20:12:07 para la verificacion del servidor de correo Apr 29 20:12:19 imap/tls? Apr 29 20:12:29 por que no mandas el correo directamente desde la fonera Apr 29 20:12:38 total, el usuario va a saber que viene de su fonera Apr 29 20:12:39 con que con ssmtp Apr 29 20:12:44 con un scrip o algo asi ? Apr 29 20:12:52 aro Apr 29 20:13:02 si era otra opcion Apr 29 20:13:28 pero con estas cosas me entretengo jejeje no se queria a ver si hacia el cliente de correo con ssl Apr 29 20:13:48 pero si veo que se me complica mucho optare por un ssmtp Apr 29 20:14:13 si no te hace falta ni sendmail ni nada Apr 29 20:14:50 tu manda el correo ahi on the raw, abres un socket y lo mandas. en el from pones soytufonera@ipaddress y ya estÃa Apr 29 20:15:13 y ya ? Apr 29 20:15:27 claro :) Apr 29 20:15:34 curioso Apr 29 20:15:37 jejejeje Apr 29 20:16:06 y esto a donde se me envia ? Apr 29 20:16:14 a mi cuenta de fon ? Apr 29 20:16:46 http://thedaneshproject.com/posts/send-mail-through-smtp-using-telnet/ Apr 29 20:16:51 no no no Apr 29 20:17:03 tu lo envias directamente al servidor smtp del usuario, claro Apr 29 20:17:33 ahhhh Apr 29 20:17:39 vale vale vale Apr 29 20:17:43 en realidad, es lo que hacen unos servidores SMTP con otros, cuando el destinatario no esta entre sus usuarios Apr 29 20:18:13 o crees tu que cuando un servidor de yahoo tiene que forwardear un correo a una cuenta de google se logea en google? Apr 29 20:18:36 ya que chulo :D Apr 29 20:19:06 ahora, eso si, me imagino que tendras que poner en el from la IP externa de tu fonera porque si no el cliente de correo del usuario vera que no es la misma ip desde la que se envia el correo que el dominio que tu te inventes en el From: Apr 29 20:19:16 es decir, creera que es un "fake from" Apr 29 20:19:49 ok Apr 29 20:20:55 voy a echar un par de ojos a esto Apr 29 20:20:59 bueno, mira que bien, no te acostaras sin saber una cosa mas Apr 29 20:21:12 vaya jejeje muchas gracias Apr 29 20:21:45 hasta mas ver. y recuerda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMTP todo esta en los libros. esta juventud... Apr 29 20:22:51 weno creo ke voy a hacerme de comer Apr 29 20:23:30 hasta ahora! Apr 29 20:48:46 hi can someone halp me Apr 29 20:49:33 need to connect to gui via dyndns adress. how does it work Apr 29 20:53:04 hallo Apr 29 20:53:18 need to connect to gui via dyndns adress. how does it work Apr 29 20:59:15 :( Apr 29 21:05:35 r u using a dsl modem or a cable mode/switch= Apr 29 21:05:37 ?? Apr 29 21:25:19 *** mib_c84752 quit ("http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client") -> you were late, burton-ng Apr 29 21:31:32 darick i checked wifi bridge mode and it is not very reliable Apr 29 21:31:48 if the wifi signal gets lost Apr 29 21:32:06 the fonera crashes Apr 29 21:32:30 iurgi said that was unstable Apr 29 21:32:47 for that they didn't use it on the enduser firmware Apr 29 21:34:10 maybe the problem can be the chanel Apr 29 21:34:38 the fonera is in automatic Apr 29 21:34:42 well i don't know but i had to reset it Apr 29 21:34:47 like fonera 1.0 Apr 29 21:35:10 francofon didn't work always Apr 29 21:35:15 as well in fonera 1 Apr 29 21:35:30 but it lost signal for the distance? Apr 29 21:35:38 before you reset you tray to put in uno chanel Apr 29 21:35:41 nop Apr 29 21:36:00 suddnly when i tried to conenct to its signal the password didn0t work Apr 29 21:36:20 ok Apr 29 21:36:22 when i reboted it to check there was no wifi myplace Apr 29 21:37:15 had to reset and start all over again Apr 29 21:37:54 are you using WDS? Apr 29 21:38:04 nop single connectio to wifi Apr 29 21:38:12 ok Apr 29 21:38:23 it worked for a while Apr 29 21:38:32 but i can't complain Apr 29 21:38:36 i will do more tests Apr 29 21:39:02 i am having issues with dydns with dsl routers Apr 29 21:39:43 y load dynds settins on dsl router and rediect the port to my fonera ip bt my host at dyndns doesnt load Apr 29 22:08:04 wifi--wan is stable Apr 29 22:08:15 but the private signal sometimes is not visible Apr 29 22:08:20 (y) Apr 29 22:08:22 and there's no heartbeat Apr 29 22:08:34 (n) Apr 29 22:09:01 (m) Apr 29 22:09:30 I had already discarded having private signal in this mode... Apr 29 22:10:10 Iurgi, do you know how to open a specific port on a Debian machine? Apr 29 22:12:01 yes Apr 29 22:12:11 iptables? Apr 29 22:12:15 well Apr 29 22:12:31 to "open" the port, you need a service Apr 29 22:12:56 it's for a ftp server on a non standard port Apr 29 22:13:02 I mean, 'forwarding' a port only makes sense if the debian machine is between th einternet and the pc with the service Apr 29 22:13:05 ah Apr 29 22:13:31 port 21 I guess is open by default Apr 29 22:13:34 well, that's a configuraiton thing Apr 29 22:13:40 nothing to do with iptables Apr 29 22:13:54 I have it in its conf file but still no access Apr 29 22:13:56 the ftp server is running in the debian box? Apr 29 22:14:07 yeah. Proftpd Apr 29 22:14:52 I configured the port in proftpd.conf redirected it in DSL router to its private ip but still no chance... Apr 29 22:15:00 hmmm Apr 29 22:15:23 So that's why I though the debian box might be blocking that non standard port Apr 29 22:15:29 hmmm Apr 29 22:15:40 unlikely but if you wann give it a try: Apr 29 22:16:01 iptables -I INPUT -p tcp --dport xxx -j ACCEPT Apr 29 22:16:09 ok Apr 29 22:16:13 let's try Apr 29 22:16:22 how are you testing it? Apr 29 22:16:44 I'm setting up a home made debian server Apr 29 22:16:55 for a friend Apr 29 22:17:00 ftp? Apr 29 22:17:01 hmmm Apr 29 22:17:02 why? Apr 29 22:17:10 Whe share stuff Apr 29 22:17:14 ok Apr 29 22:17:34 don't work fonera.be? Apr 29 22:18:13 fonera.be? Apr 29 22:18:17 I don't know what it is Apr 29 22:18:41 http://www.fonera.be/rep/FON2202/ it's a repository folder Apr 29 22:18:45 ah Apr 29 22:18:47 lol Apr 29 22:18:48 ok Apr 29 22:18:58 Darick: I would use openwrt.org Apr 29 22:19:01 :) Apr 29 22:19:06 much more reliable Apr 29 22:19:22 of nslu.org or whatever Apr 29 22:48:16 hello Apr 29 22:48:40 how can i instal third party plugins using aplication updater? Apr 29 22:48:57 which flie to load? Apr 29 22:49:05 .tar or .fon? Apr 29 22:49:10 it seems it doesn't work **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Apr 30 02:59:57 2009