**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri May 08 02:59:57 2009
May 08 06:38:47 <Danicasti> Hi! Buongiorno!
May 08 07:05:17 <blogic> morning
May 08 08:08:07 <c_up> moin!
May 08 08:08:16 <Decodecoding> hello
May 08 09:13:31 <Danicasti> Today is Friday!!! :)
May 08 09:14:03 <coolix> indeed !
May 08 09:15:37 <c_up> take the point ;)
May 08 09:38:45 <Decodecoding> Coffee time!
May 08 09:39:30 <Styx``> hi
May 08 09:39:37 <Styx``> I just wake up :D
May 08 09:39:47 <Styx``> 11H39am at Paris
May 08 09:41:17 <Decodecoding> Shame on you!!! :-d
May 08 09:42:47 <blogic> hehe
May 08 09:42:49 <blogic> soooo
May 08 09:42:49 <Styx``> why ? :p
May 08 09:42:55 <blogic> we have mdns now :)
May 08 09:42:57 <blogic> very cool stuff
May 08 09:43:02 <blogic> mac users will love it
May 08 09:43:09 <blogic> and upnp seems to work aswell
May 08 09:43:15 <blogic> i need to test that mpore thugh
May 08 09:46:18 <Decodecoding> I wish I knew wht that means... :$
May 08 09:46:38 <blogic> out of the box stuff
May 08 09:46:39 <blogic> :)
May 08 09:58:22 <kacer2k> iurgi hay alguna mejora con el reproductor de audio?
May 08 10:00:49 <iurgi> kacer2k: casi
May 08 10:00:51 <iurgi> :)
May 08 10:01:55 <kacer2k> ok era para entretenerme en algo este fin de semana
May 08 10:02:24 <iurgi> tal vez me de tiempo a ponerlo hoy
May 08 10:02:41 <iurgi> pero igual sacamos un firmware beta completo
May 08 10:02:45 <iurgi> asi tienes para todo el finde
May 08 10:02:52 <iurgi> depende de si nos da tiempo a arreglar un par de detales
May 08 10:03:00 <kacer2k> jejeje pues si la verdad que con eso tengo más para jugar :)
May 08 10:03:20 <kacer2k> vale vale tranquilo, que ya estais a tope
May 08 10:03:34 <kacer2k> no te molesto más y te dejo currando
May 08 10:03:59 <kacer2k> a la tarde me pasare por aquí y me comentas de donde se puede baja el firm nuevo o si lo deljas en aplicaciones de la fonera
May 08 10:04:05 <kacer2k> o en la fonosfera
May 08 10:05:31 <kacer2k> me piro, ya nos veremos
May 08 10:06:22 * iurgi just received the HTC Magic
May 08 10:06:26 <iurgi> will play a little now
May 08 10:06:56 <blogic> iurgi: ?
May 08 10:07:02 <blogic> you have time for that ? :D
May 08 10:08:06 <iurgi> lol
May 08 10:08:21 <iurgi> blogic: I will not refrain from playing at least a few minutes with it
May 08 10:08:22 <iurgi> XD
May 08 10:34:07 <Danicasti> iurgi: Htc is the best!
May 08 10:38:07 <iurgi> yeah
May 08 10:38:32 <Decodecoding> I'll probably switch form Blackberry to Android in the next months..
May 08 10:38:45 <blogic> iurgi: is it nice ?
May 08 10:38:56 <blogic> iurgi: you only got a new phone a few weeks ago
May 08 10:39:04 <blogic> the day i was in madrid the last time
May 08 10:39:06 <blogic> ?!
May 08 10:39:12 <blogic> which is only like 6 weeks ago
May 08 10:39:25 <iurgi> yeah
May 08 10:39:33 <iurgi> but I didn't know vodafone would launch the htc
May 08 10:39:33 <Decodecoding> Iurgi, you have the HTC Magic?
May 08 10:39:38 <iurgi> otherwise I would have never bought it
May 08 10:39:41 <iurgi> Decodecoding: yes
May 08 10:39:44 <iurgi> just arrived
May 08 10:39:46 <blogic> hehe
May 08 10:39:50 <iurgi> I will sell the samsung crap
May 08 10:40:06 * iurgi is having a technological orgasm
May 08 10:40:06 <c_up> using iphone and loving it ;)
May 08 10:40:12 <iurgi> iphone sucks
May 08 10:40:12 <blogic> iurgi: can i have the g1 that is in the fon office ?
May 08 10:40:19 <iurgi> blogic: joan has it :(
May 08 10:40:24 <blogic> bugger
May 08 10:40:30 <blogic> i want 1 and fon should pay for it
May 08 10:40:35 <nbd> don't get a g1
May 08 10:40:36 <nbd> get an adp1
May 08 10:40:37 <blogic> i need to ermmm .... test integration :D
May 08 10:40:43 <nbd> ;)
May 08 10:40:48 <Decodecoding> I'll wait till september or so and then I'll get it...
May 08 10:40:50 <blogic> nbd: i dont mind aslong as fon pays
May 08 10:42:00 <Decodecoding> I made a little home network scheme while having coffee... http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3360/3512780840_f3cacf7787_o.jpg
May 08 10:42:13 <iurgi> adp1?
May 08 10:42:23 <c_up> i thought a rs.com upload application would be nice!?
May 08 10:47:26 <Decodecoding> Sorry. The link was wrong: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3360/3512780840_f3cacf7787_o.jpg
May 08 11:02:29 <blogic> iurgi: i just noticed the rs.com app regfenerates its key on every boot ?!
May 08 11:02:50 <iurgi> blogic: no idea.... ask cyrus
May 08 11:02:53 <iurgi> what does this mean?
May 08 11:02:55 <blogic> i know
May 08 11:02:58 <iurgi> takes time on everyboot?
May 08 11:02:59 <blogic> i have no idea :)
May 08 11:03:03 <blogic> might cause problems
May 08 11:03:06 <iurgi> ok
May 08 11:03:08 <blogic> if the key is not there yet
May 08 12:14:27 <Darick> hi all
May 08 12:16:35 <blogic> hi Darick
May 08 12:25:46 <iurgi> hi
May 08 12:26:12 <Darick> thanks iurgi, for sending the mail to Cyrus ;)
May 08 12:26:21 <iurgi> no prob
May 08 12:26:43 <iurgi> Darick: the problem seems to be caused by an overload on the fonera (CPU overload)
May 08 12:26:59 <iurgi> he made a change, so the links are not processed when you add them
May 08 12:27:08 <iurgi> but only when they reach the their turn
May 08 12:27:40 <Darick> perfect, so i can add everything i want :D
May 08 12:29:25 <iurgi> yes
May 08 12:29:37 <iurgi> we will release an image with this and many other changes today
May 08 12:29:46 <Decodecoding> he he
May 08 12:31:08 <c_up> nice ;)
May 08 12:32:27 <Darick> public image?
May 08 12:32:49 <iurgi> well...
May 08 12:32:50 <iurgi> yes
May 08 12:32:56 <iurgi> it's a release candidate
May 08 12:33:06 <iurgi> HUGE improvements
May 08 12:33:22 <iurgi> I'd say it's one of the biggest jumps from one release to another
May 08 12:33:26 <iurgi> I mean...
May 08 12:33:34 <iurgi> added just a few things that make a big difference
May 08 12:33:43 <iurgi> blogic made an impressive work in the last days, you'll see
May 08 12:34:35 <blogic> i did indeed
May 08 12:34:36 <blogic> :)
May 08 12:34:41 <blogic> just you wait
May 08 12:34:42 <blogic> hihi
May 08 12:34:50 <blogic> i cannot promise upnp will work on time though :)
May 08 12:35:00 <iurgi> shhhhhhhhhh
May 08 12:35:00 <blogic> i am having problems integrating it with the firewall
May 08 12:35:03 <blogic> oops :)
May 08 12:35:06 <Darick> xDDDD
May 08 12:35:08 <blogic> hehe
May 08 12:35:11 <iurgi> :)
May 08 12:35:22 <c_up> i want to test it too, hopefuly a config im/export function is included
May 08 12:35:35 <iurgi> im/export?
May 08 12:35:35 <c_up> the save config for further tests
May 08 12:35:41 <iurgi> ah, in upnp
May 08 12:35:52 <blogic> c_up: not yet
May 08 12:35:59 <c_up> to save the router config and import it after firmware update
May 08 12:36:01 <blogic> c_up: sorry
May 08 12:36:07 <blogic> i have it on my list for next week
May 08 12:36:37 <c_up> cool
May 08 12:36:37 <iurgi> ah
May 08 12:36:39 <iurgi> that
May 08 12:36:56 <iurgi> yes... that will take some omre time
May 08 12:37:51 <c_up> but when its done it is a cool feature
May 08 12:37:56 <iurgi> well
May 08 12:37:59 <iurgi> only if you reflash often
May 08 12:38:06 <iurgi> it's cool for people like you XD
May 08 12:38:16 <blogic> iurgi: it is a cool feature
May 08 12:38:17 <iurgi> I hope users don't need to reflash too often
May 08 12:38:22 <blogic> a really cool feature imho
May 08 12:38:25 <iurgi> why?
May 08 12:38:28 <blogic> i like it
May 08 12:38:36 <iurgi> I mena... many users asked for it on the F+ and fonera classic
May 08 12:38:40 <blogic> it is one of the "this is more than a normal device" features
May 08 12:38:44 <iurgi> never understood why they found it so useful
May 08 12:38:46 <Decodecoding> reflashing becomes a drug
May 08 12:38:48 <blogic> iurgi: and the fw stank
May 08 12:38:53 <iurgi> yeah
May 08 12:38:54 <iurgi> XD
May 08 12:38:58 <blogic> fon-ng rocks
May 08 12:39:02 <blogic> that is the difference
May 08 12:39:08 <blogic> i am in command now :)
May 08 12:39:09 <blogic> haha
May 08 12:39:24 <blogic> iurgi: please dont fire me for being cheecky :)
May 08 12:39:43 <iurgi> lol
May 08 12:40:08 <c_up> no beer @ work ;)
May 08 12:41:30 <Darick> nor drugs
May 08 12:41:30 <Darick> xD
May 08 12:42:07 <c_up> just code
May 08 12:42:35 <iurgi> we used to have different liquors at fon
May 08 12:42:36 <iurgi> XD
May 08 12:42:46 <blogic> iurgi: haha
May 08 12:42:54 <blogic> now we have to use rain water :)
May 08 12:43:38 <Darick> mixed with medical alcohol, isn't it? xDD
May 08 12:45:52 <blogic> yeah
May 08 12:45:59 <blogic> looking at iurgi it must be :)
May 08 12:46:21 <iurgi> XD
May 08 12:46:25 <Decodecoding> Redbull is also allowed so that you won't stop coding even at night and the TO DO list will be finished sooner... (6)
May 08 12:47:23 <blogic> yeah
May 08 12:47:27 <blogic> or the TOFO list
May 08 12:47:39 <blogic> i misstyped it when i started it 8 monhs ago
May 08 12:47:52 <Darick> xDD
May 08 12:50:13 <Darick> see you tonight!!
May 08 12:52:20 <Decodecoding> This release will come with the new method right from the gui (autoupdate) or will it be as before?
May 08 12:53:07 <iurgi> well
May 08 12:53:12 <iurgi> 2.2.6.0 will be integrateed
May 08 12:53:18 <iurgi> but this is a release candidate
May 08 12:53:21 <iurgi> no version change
May 08 12:53:30 <iurgi> it will still be 2.2.5.0 imo
May 08 12:53:39 <Decodecoding> aha, so redboot will be my choice
May 08 12:54:01 <Decodecoding> or ssh
May 08 12:54:17 <iurgi> no
May 08 12:54:18 <iurgi> web
May 08 12:54:25 <iurgi> but it will not be "a button"
May 08 12:54:31 <Decodecoding> I see
May 08 12:54:31 <iurgi> but a file you will have to upload
May 08 12:59:53 <c_up> easy ;)
May 08 13:00:46 <c_up> would it be a good idea, to create a maillist with all beta testers ?
May 08 13:01:29 <blogic> there is a mailing list
May 08 13:01:39 <blogic> :)
May 08 13:11:38 <c_up> ok, i will join it
May 08 13:20:51 <blogic> hehe
May 08 13:22:09 <c_up> werd ich da über die neuen updates informiert, bzwö. kommen die updates gleich mit?
May 08 13:22:46 <CyrusFF> yes usually
May 08 13:22:50 <blogic> yes
May 08 13:22:55 <blogic> sonst im blog
May 08 13:23:07 <blogic> im blog steht das immer und dann kannst du per rss abonieren
May 08 13:29:11 <c_up> aber im blog gibts nix zu den ganze beta images
May 08 13:29:14 <c_up> oder ?
May 08 13:35:04 <c_up> ich schaff heut nix mehr, so
May 08 13:44:52 <c_up> subscribed
May 08 13:49:55 <Barbon> olà
May 08 13:50:35 <Barbon> i have find in my youtube video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5BNwrcKpY4
May 08 13:50:39 <Barbon> fonera upload
May 08 13:50:41 <Barbon> LOL
May 08 13:50:55 <blogic> ?
May 08 13:51:00 <blogic> you uploaded one
May 08 13:52:43 <Barbon> yea time ago
May 08 13:52:46 <Barbon> for testing
May 08 13:52:52 <Barbon> and it named Fonera upload lol
May 08 13:53:12 <blogic> hehe
May 08 13:53:14 <blogic> and private
May 08 13:53:17 <blogic> i cannot view it
May 08 14:04:42 <Barbon> ahhh
May 08 14:04:44 <Barbon> 1 sec
May 08 14:05:34 <Barbon> ok try to see it now
May 08 14:05:39 <Barbon>  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5BNwrcKpY4
May 08 14:42:43 <sdolard> Hello
May 08 14:43:06 <sdolard> It's seems there are a lot of torrent issue :)
May 08 14:43:07 <blogic> hi
May 08 14:43:20 <blogic> sdolard: they will be solved today i hope with the new firmware
May 08 14:43:24 <sdolard> Mine is that torrent are downloaded but ui is never updated :)
May 08 14:43:31 <sdolard> great
May 08 14:43:36 <blogic> sdolard: i hope we fixed it
May 08 14:43:37 <blogic> :)
May 08 14:44:09 <sdolard> i had some difficulties to find the fonera 2 bug tracker, there is ?
May 08 14:44:19 <iurgi> trac.fonosfera.org
May 08 14:44:23 <sdolard> :D
May 08 14:44:24 <blogic> tarc.fonosfera.org
May 08 14:44:29 * iurgi first
May 08 14:44:33 <iurgi> XD
May 08 14:44:36 <blogic> mine has a typo
May 08 14:44:37 <blogic> :)
May 08 14:44:49 <sdolard> Thanks
May 08 14:44:54 <iurgi> true
May 08 14:46:55 <sdolard> I've got some question about f2 dev, is it open source but developped by fon or is the firmware only dev by community ?
May 08 14:47:17 <sdolard> i don't talk about plugins
May 08 14:47:48 <blogic> ok
May 08 14:47:52 <blogic> i am the main developer
May 08 14:48:00 <blogic> i am originally from the openwrt project
May 08 14:48:10 <blogic> which is a community firmware for routers based on linux
May 08 14:48:17 <blogic> we modify openwrt to be used for fon
May 08 14:48:19 <sdolard> So, nice to me you
May 08 14:48:29 <blogic> i am employed as a freelance hacker by fon
May 08 14:48:35 <blogic> anyone can contribute
May 08 14:48:53 <blogic> so, it si payed for by fon, but i consider myself more community than a employed sw dev
May 08 14:49:03 <sdolard> ok
May 08 14:49:09 <iurgi> exactly
May 08 14:49:18 <sdolard> thanks for those explanations
May 08 14:49:19 <blogic> also, there is CyrusFF who is in charge of the web framework, and lots of other magic he does
May 08 14:49:20 <iurgi> same as other developers that also contribute, but not as much
May 08 14:49:27 <blogic> iurgi is the head of the team
May 08 14:49:27 <iurgi> like CyrusFF
May 08 14:49:29 <blogic> he works for fon
May 08 14:49:36 <iurgi> but I don't program myself
May 08 14:49:41 <iurgi> (at least not lately XD)
May 08 14:49:42 <blogic> the good thing is this
May 08 14:49:51 <blogic> normally iurgi would tell people in the office whatz to do
May 08 14:49:58 <sdolard> :D
May 08 14:50:03 <blogic> now, when he tells me something i tell him he smells :)
May 08 14:50:08 <blogic> and do it how i want to
May 08 14:50:13 <iurgi> and I kick your ass virtually
May 08 14:50:16 <blogic> i am sitting several 1000km away from him
May 08 14:50:17 <sdolard> :D
May 08 14:50:23 <blogic> so he cannot do anything
May 08 14:50:32 <sdolard> :)
May 08 14:50:33 <blogic> so, to sum up, it is payed by fon, but community driven
May 08 14:50:39 <blogic> :D
May 08 14:50:46 <blogic> i hope that clears the question
May 08 14:50:50 <sdolard> great
May 08 14:50:55 <sdolard> sure thanks a lot
May 08 14:51:31 <blogic> hehe
May 08 14:51:35 <sdolard> is there some specification about f2 http API ?
May 08 14:52:04 <blogic> sdolard: yes
May 08 14:52:08 <CyrusFF> sdolard: what do you want to know?
May 08 14:52:09 <sdolard> i would like to write a service backup
May 08 14:52:11 <blogic> we use a framework called luci
May 08 14:52:25 <blogic> sdolard: CyrusFF is the man to talk to he is the wizard behind the framework
May 08 14:52:41 <sdolard> blogic: ok
May 08 14:53:48 <sdolard> just because i don't not like java :)
May 08 14:54:15 <blogic> sdolard: good, neither do we
May 08 14:54:17 <blogic> :)
May 08 14:54:24 <blogic> you have come to the right place :D
May 08 14:54:30 <sdolard> :D
May 08 14:54:40 <CyrusFF> we welcome to you to the church of Lua and C
May 08 14:54:46 <CyrusFF> -to
May 08 14:56:06 <sdolard> i fan of Qt :p
May 08 14:56:14 <sdolard> i'm
May 08 14:56:40 <sdolard> and js also :p
May 08 14:56:42 <iurgi> sdolard: ok but... then it's not gonna be usable in win?
May 08 14:57:17 <blogic> OT is usable in windows
May 08 14:57:21 <blogic> QT
May 08 14:58:43 <iurgi> hmmm but tht's only the interface, right?
May 08 14:58:54 <iurgi> I mean, the underlying C code will not be portable?
May 08 14:59:05 <sdolard> Qt works everywhere :)
May 08 14:59:18 <CyrusFF> qt is a huuuuuge framework that abstracts nearly everything
May 08 14:59:26 <sdolard> correct :)
May 08 14:59:33 <iurgi> hmmm
May 08 14:59:50 <iurgi> meaning the application might be ran under lin and win?
May 08 14:59:51 <sdolard> but, one bin for each platform...
May 08 14:59:57 <iurgi> ah well
May 08 15:00:03 <iurgi> that's not a problem at all
May 08 15:00:09 <sdolard> yep
May 08 15:00:23 <CyrusFF> e.g. skype and opera use Qt
May 08 15:00:29 <iurgi> sdolard: we are improving the FONBackup these days
May 08 15:00:43 <iurgi> if you want suggestions about interesting features/behaviors...
May 08 15:01:11 <iurgi> CyrusFF: and they have been ported thanks to that? or have they been written again for each platform?
May 08 15:01:13 <sdolard> iurgi: i would hae something that work  :p
May 08 15:01:49 <iurgi> hehe
May 08 15:01:51 <sdolard> where can i find fon API ?
May 08 15:02:00 <CyrusFF> no its a cross-plattform framework, you write it once and it runs on all supported platforms
May 08 15:02:02 <iurgi> ok, when you're making some progress, we'll give you feedback
May 08 15:02:08 <CyrusFF> as long as you don't mix up with low-level calls
May 08 15:02:09 <iurgi> CyrusFF: ok
May 08 15:02:14 <iurgi> got it
May 08 15:03:46 <sdolard> Do i have to use wire shark or some other tcp tracker ?
May 08 15:04:04 <CyrusFF> its basically json-rpc over http
May 08 15:04:14 <CyrusFF> and ftp for the file transfer
May 08 15:04:22 <sdolard> ok
May 08 15:08:10 <burton-ng> hello
May 08 15:08:48 <sdolard> Could we have some ssl a day ?
May 08 15:08:59 <burton-ng> could anybody help with fonera 2100?? i have connected it to my router and i can't browse anything
May 08 15:09:16 <CyrusFF> sdolard: i'm working on tls
May 08 15:09:22 <sdolard> ok
May 08 15:09:52 <burton-ng> i have tryied to change dns but on static ip but it doesn't wokr
May 08 15:10:08 <burton-ng> and as i don't inet on my fonera 2100 i don't get it upgraded
May 08 15:11:22 <burton-ng> the only way to workaround this is to install freewlan and select bridge private to lan
May 08 15:12:00 <burton-ng> why is this happening? i have tryied to connect it to my fonera 2.0 as well (using the black ethernet)
May 08 15:15:50 <iurgi> that's so weird
May 08 15:18:37 <burton-ng> yeah i have tried with so many routers!
May 08 15:18:52 <burton-ng> it is not a hardware prlbme because it is working with freewlan
May 08 15:18:55 <burton-ng> and also ddwrt
May 08 15:21:38 <iurgi> c_up: there?
May 08 15:21:47 <c_up> yes
May 08 15:21:55 <iurgi> do you still have the image we sent you?
May 08 15:22:07 <c_up> yes
May 08 15:22:18 <iurgi> can you try the fonbackup application?
May 08 15:22:22 <iurgi> but one I will mail you
May 08 15:22:29 <c_up> sure
May 08 15:22:36 <iurgi> gimme your email ,please
May 08 15:22:39 <iurgi> on a priv message
May 08 15:22:40 <iurgi> :)
May 08 15:23:02 <c_up> sent
May 08 15:27:02 <iurgi> sent
May 08 15:29:25 <c_up> what do you want to know`
May 08 15:29:27 <c_up> ?
May 08 15:29:39 <iurgi> transfer speed
May 08 15:30:53 <c_up> 320 - 350 kb/S
May 08 15:31:14 <iurgi> !!!
May 08 15:31:22 <iurgi> fonbackup speed?
May 08 15:31:24 <iurgi> dammit
May 08 15:31:29 <iurgi> I get 10KB/s
May 08 15:31:34 <iurgi> and it should be 1MB/s
May 08 15:31:41 <iurgi> and now you get 300KB/s!!
May 08 15:31:48 <iurgi> are you trying big files or small ones?
May 08 15:31:58 <c_up> 4 mp3's
May 08 15:34:07 <c_up> can check a larger file
May 08 15:34:08 <c_up> !
May 08 15:34:10 <c_up> ?
May 08 15:35:58 <c_up> reboot
May 08 15:47:58 <burton-ng> i don0t understan why my 2100 does't give internet
May 08 15:48:20 <burton-ng> could it be a problem of the image i am loading?
May 08 15:51:21 <kacer2k> iurgi si sacais el firm para el finde lo dejas por la fonosfera??
May 08 15:52:45 <blogic> burton-ng: what image are you loading ?
May 08 15:54:39 <zen2> Hello
May 08 15:54:46 <blogic> hi zen2
May 08 15:54:59 <zen2> I need an advice for a good quality outdoor antenna (for personal use)
May 08 15:55:10 <zen2> It needs to have at least 12~14dBi
May 08 15:55:20 <zen2> and should be cheap.. ;)
May 08 15:55:31 <blogic> no idea
May 08 15:55:33 <blogic> )
May 08 15:55:34 <blogic> :)
May 08 15:55:36 <zen2> :p
May 08 15:57:01 <Decodecoding> Fontena  :-d
May 08 15:59:46 <zen2> Decodecoding: not good enough...
May 08 16:01:54 <iurgi> zen2: try hubber & Shuner
May 08 16:01:57 <iurgi> expensive but good
May 08 16:02:10 <blogic> i have huber and suhner
May 08 16:02:17 <blogic> cost me 140 euro
May 08 16:02:27 <blogic> i managed a wifi link over 8km with it though
May 08 16:02:31 <Decodecoding> I used to build them myself.
May 08 16:03:01 <Decodecoding> Stella Doradus are cheap
May 08 16:03:13 <blogic> YaY
May 08 16:03:17 <blogic> same as pringles
May 08 16:03:18 <blogic> :)
May 08 16:03:40 <Decodecoding> I used to buil bi-quad
May 08 16:03:40 <zen2> thanks
May 08 16:04:12 <zen2> I did a reflector, which worqs quite well, but it's not really "water proof"... besides.. the ap needs to be on the outside...
May 08 16:04:32 <Decodecoding> you need omnidirectional or directional
May 08 16:04:44 <zen2> I also built a helix antenna... but the impedance matching must be really wrong, because the gain is worst that with a regular antenna...
May 08 16:04:51 <zen2> directiona
May 08 16:04:54 <zen2> directional
May 08 16:05:25 <Decodecoding> a Stella Doradus 24 db must be around 35-40 euro...
May 08 16:05:57 <zen2> not bad. do you know of a "good" site that sells these in europe?
May 08 16:06:14 <Decodecoding> www.ciudadwireless.com
May 08 16:06:28 <zen2> tks
May 08 16:06:45 <Decodecoding> I've purchased some thing there
May 08 16:07:38 <zen2> is the  Stella Doradus 24 db a planar antenna ? or parabolic?
May 08 16:08:03 <Decodecoding> http://www.ciudadwireless.com/stella_doradus_sd15_antena_parabolica-p-96.html
May 08 16:08:27 <zen2> tks
May 08 16:09:09 <zen2> Decodecoding: was the product well packed? in a big box?
May 08 16:09:57 <Decodecoding> Never bought antenae therre, just routers and small stuff. But, I think they know what they sell.
May 08 16:10:55 <Decodecoding> By the way, I've nothing to o with them... no comisson for me :-p
May 08 16:10:57 <blogic> Decodecoding: that antenna is sooo illegal
May 08 16:11:01 <blogic> 100mW
May 08 16:11:07 <Decodecoding> :-d
May 08 16:11:09 <blogic> and a-band allows 1W
May 08 16:11:26 <Decodecoding> That's what makes it more exciting
May 08 16:11:28 <blogic> that antenna with a 1W a band card will give you in the region of 16W
May 08 16:11:31 <zen2> Decodecoding: ah ok.
May 08 16:11:32 <blogic> hehe
May 08 16:11:37 <blogic> you can fry birds with it
May 08 16:11:57 <zen2> that stella doradus 15dbi seems quite nice...
May 08 16:12:07 <zen2> heck.. I'll try and make one like this miself.. :p
May 08 16:13:13 <Decodecoding> My favourite was a mini directional biquad 12dB.... I loved it and whe reached 1 Mb/s 10 km away
May 08 16:13:32 <zen2> !
May 08 16:13:40 <Decodecoding> Those were the old god wifi time...
May 08 16:13:45 <zen2> Decodecoding: the one with the "8" shape?
May 08 16:13:50 <Decodecoding> yes
May 08 16:14:32 <kazwo> heya
May 08 16:21:01 <iurgi> hi
May 08 16:23:00 <kazwo> i like the new fon spot stickers :D
May 08 16:45:35 <iurgi> anyone there?
May 08 16:45:50 <Decodecoding> echo echo
May 08 16:46:06 <kazwo> i am here
May 08 16:46:16 <iurgi> rgood
May 08 16:48:21 <Yasuo> lol i turned off my fonera1 1 week ago and fon mails me its already 1month offline
May 08 16:50:21 <Yasuo> since teh music addon, the register-button is gone, where is it?
May 08 16:50:21 <Yasuo> plus, i dont need all the web2.0 addons, how can i remove em from the WebGui?
May 08 16:50:42 <iurgi> Yasuo: you can't :(
May 08 16:50:48 <iurgi> I mean... you can remove them from the gui
May 08 16:50:51 <iurgi> but not from the flash
May 08 16:54:30 <Yasuo> hmm, the register button is gone...
May 08 16:54:34 <xMff> or build a firmware image w/o :)
May 08 16:55:07 <iurgi> ok guys...
May 08 16:55:11 <iurgi> I am leaving...
May 08 16:55:12 <iurgi> but...
May 08 16:55:13 <iurgi> before
May 08 16:55:22 <Decodecoding> drums
May 08 16:55:39 <iurgi> http://blog.fonosfera.org/new-release-candidate-2260-rc1/
May 08 16:55:42 <iurgi> there you go
May 08 16:55:44 <iurgi> test and enjoy
May 08 16:55:44 <iurgi> .)
May 08 16:55:55 <kazwo> \o/
May 08 16:56:08 <Decodecoding> OK
May 08 16:56:22 <kazwo> Yasuo: is your f2 listed at the fon account page?
May 08 16:59:31 <Yasuo> mom
May 08 17:01:35 <iurgi> ciao everybody
May 08 17:01:40 <kazwo> cya
May 08 17:06:53 <Yasuo> kazwo: no only the fonera1 is listed wich is turned off atm.
May 08 17:07:47 <kazwo> Yasuo: do you have the dev firmware?
May 08 17:07:54 <Yasuo> yes
May 08 17:08:09 <kazwo> ok connect via ssh and enter this:
May 08 17:08:16 <kazwo> uci set registered.fonreg.registered=0
May 08 17:08:20 <kazwo> uci commit registered
May 08 17:09:01 <kazwo> now the button should be shown
May 08 17:09:13 <kazwo> try to register the f2 with your account
May 08 17:09:48 <Yasuo> okay. Can i change the registration when teh router changes te owner?
May 08 17:10:02 <kazwo> yes
May 08 17:10:15 <kazwo> but not by yourself
May 08 17:11:50 <kazwo> if its already registered write a support ticked at the fon page.
May 08 17:14:12 <kazwo> [08 May 09 19:09:47] Yasuo: okay. Can i change the registration when teh router changes te owner?
May 08 17:14:12 <kazwo> [08 May 09 19:10:00] kazwo: yes
May 08 17:14:12 <kazwo> [08 May 09 19:10:13] kazwo: but not by yourself
May 08 17:14:12 <kazwo> [08 May 09 19:11:49] kazwo: if its already registered write a support ticked at the fon page.
May 08 17:14:22 <Yasuo1> re
May 08 17:14:23 <Yasuo1> ok
May 08 17:15:11 <Yasuo1> hmm the router restartet and teh webinterface doesnt respond any more now
May 08 17:15:45 <kazwo> hmmm
May 08 17:15:48 <kazwo> ssh working?
May 08 17:16:21 <Yasuo1> yes
May 08 17:16:45 <kazwo> strange
May 08 17:17:52 <Yasuo1> hmm there connected many fonera user with names like fonero5z1tr04 to my old fon1 aitn this suspect...
May 08 17:20:19 <kazwo> names likes this are aliens. sms tickets, 15 min free ... etc.
May 08 17:21:13 <Yasuo1> maybe they wanted to infiltrate my network since teh router is working behind another router in my lan
May 08 17:21:48 <Yasuo1> however, the webinterface doesnt respond, ill try to set registered back to 1?
May 08 17:22:05 <Yasuo1> i think this happaned after installing teh new music addon
May 08 17:22:30 <kazwo> i dont think so. aliens / linus are in a special subnet. they cant see whats in your lan
May 08 17:22:51 <kazwo> uci set registered.fonreg.registered=1
May 08 17:22:52 <kazwo> uci commit registered
May 08 17:24:49 <kazwo> to reboot your f2 via ssh simply enter "reboot"
May 08 17:26:30 <inouk> someone with the basic of electronic?
May 08 17:26:56 <inouk> red wire should be gnd or 3.3v
May 08 17:26:57 <inouk> ?
May 08 17:27:12 <Yasuo1> electronician is my job, but i dont really understand it :D
May 08 17:27:19 <Yasuo1> DONT CUT TEH RED WIRE
May 08 17:27:29 <Yasuo1> redd may be + and GND may be black or blue
May 08 17:27:31 <Yasuo1> maybe
May 08 17:28:43 <kazwo> but cheap usb wires mix the collors
May 08 17:28:49 <Yasuo1> inouk: you ae not defusing a bomb? i dont wanna be fault...
May 08 17:29:06 <Yasuo1> yeah get a beeper and write it down
May 08 17:29:33 <Yasuo1> i repaired my mouse in december and the two usb wired had teh same colors
May 08 17:29:43 <Yasuo1> than is smelled...
May 08 17:29:44 <inouk> no i'm connecting to the serial interface of the fonera
May 08 17:29:47 <Yasuo1> it smelled...
May 08 17:30:16 <inouk> i remember iurgi telling me which way was what but forgot it
May 08 17:30:27 <kazwo> hehe, my serial connector has only red wires :D
May 08 17:30:28 <Yasuo1> and i realized that the chinese cable manufacturer used a different color selection athan microsoft
May 08 17:30:46 <Yasuo1> well the trackbal works fien so i had luck
May 08 17:30:50 <Yasuo1> dine
May 08 17:30:53 <Yasuo1> fine XD
May 08 17:30:58 <inouk> ok i got red-black-black-white
May 08 17:31:14 <inouk> its 3.3v-Rx-Tx-GND
May 08 17:31:35 <inouk> or GND-Tx-Rx-3.3v
May 08 17:31:37 <inouk> ?
May 08 17:31:45 <blogic> inouk: check the openwrt wiki
May 08 17:31:54 <blogic> the fon20 pages has a documentation of the pins
May 08 17:32:05 <blogic> the pin on the ethernet side is 3,3V
May 08 17:32:12 <blogic> the one on trhe led side is GND
May 08 17:32:14 <kazwo> if you take the wrong color, the f2 turned off immediately. no led lights anymore
May 08 17:33:00 <pm2036> inouk: the red wire is connected to which pin on the serial?
May 08 17:33:33 <inouk> yes i checked the pinning but that's on the UART adapter that i don't know what is what
May 08 17:33:47 <kazwo> inouk: i've got the f2 :) thank you for the buttons and stickers :))) i like them! :D
May 08 17:34:09 <inouk> \o/
May 08 17:35:15 <pm2036> inouk: it's a homemade adapter?
May 08 17:35:36 <pm2036> or like that: http://ep.yimg.com/ip/I/yhst-27389313707334_2051_13085242
May 08 17:35:51 <inouk> no commercial, but nothing tells what is what on the circuit :(
May 08 17:36:28 <inouk> pm2036, no diferent than the one on this link
May 08 17:38:34 <inouk> hmm wait i got jp1 written close to the red wire
May 08 17:39:11 <inouk> but it's explained no where what's JP1
May 08 17:39:13 <inouk> ...
May 08 17:40:16 <inouk> god already last time i wondered the same thing
May 08 17:40:20 <inouk> grr
May 08 17:41:48 <pm2036> jp1 is write on the fonera2 pcb
May 08 17:42:16 <pm2036> inouk: jp1 is on the side of the leds
May 08 17:49:05 <zen2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apB7V4PIeLI
May 08 17:50:44 <inouk> pm2036, yes but jp1 is also written on the UART board
May 08 17:51:09 <pm2036> :(
May 08 18:42:36 <Andy80> hi all :)
May 08 18:42:48 <Andy80> anyone has flashed F2 with latest RC1?
May 08 18:46:18 <Andy80> I'm upgrading it right now... using the ssh way... never tried it... let's hope :P
May 08 22:37:28 <Decodecoding> Hi, anybody in the channel?
May 08 22:37:47 <Yasuo1> no
May 08 22:37:56 <xMff> nope, didn't seen anyone either
May 08 22:38:39 <Decodecoding> I already flashed today's release
May 08 22:49:58 <Decodecoding> Does anybody know how I can restart samba in fonera without rebooting?
May 08 22:52:01 <coolix> /etc/fonstated/RestartSamba should do
May 08 22:52:11 <Decodecoding> Thnaks
May 08 22:55:21 <Decodecoding> I'd like to modify something in smb.conf but I don't know where to do it
May 08 22:55:33 <Decodecoding> in /etc or /tmp
May 08 22:55:49 <xMff>  /tmp is highly unlikely
May 08 22:56:06 <coolix>  /etc is permanent, /tmp will vanish after reboot
May 08 22:56:25 <Decodecoding> I'm making some research on the wrong size detected in samba shares
May 08 22:56:36 <Decodecoding> Only 14 Mb apper
May 08 22:57:13 <Decodecoding> I found some discussion about this : http://apps.sourceforge.net/phpbb/freenas/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=1114
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