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Jun 24 06:33:54 <Danicasti> Hi! Buongiorno!!!
Jun 24 07:00:06 <fonera-gafada> que pasó con el otro servicio de irc!???
Jun 24 10:41:30 <iurgi> hi all
Jun 24 10:42:57 <jorgesuarezdelis> hi :)
Jun 24 10:49:08 <Danicasti> Hi!
Jun 24 11:12:42 <TeigneuX> Hi all
Jun 24 11:13:16 <TeigneuX> Did someone has tested UPnPAV apps on the fonera ?
Jun 24 11:15:16 <iurgi> what is that?
Jun 24 11:20:08 <TeigneuX> Some packages can stream files to a Upnp client
Jun 24 11:20:18 <TeigneuX> different of the Upnp
Jun 24 11:20:30 <TeigneuX> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPnP_AV
Jun 24 11:21:10 <TeigneuX> In France a internet provider box can connect to an UPnPAV media server to play files
Jun 24 15:23:14 * iurgi is getting crazy
Jun 24 15:23:26 <iurgi> anyone knows anything about video codecs, formats and file extensions?
Jun 24 15:28:51 <xMff> I know that you can't trust extensions
Jun 24 15:29:11 <xMff> todays container formats can have dozens of different streams embedded
Jun 24 15:29:28 <xMff> *different types of
Jun 24 15:31:32 <iurgi> yup, that's as far as I can get
Jun 24 15:31:33 <iurgi> hehehe
Jun 24 15:31:47 <iurgi> the thing is I'm trying to create videos in different formats
Jun 24 15:32:12 <iurgi> to make a set of files for systemathic testing i nthe fonera
Jun 24 15:32:30 <iurgi> I want to make a file type for each supported format in youtube
Jun 24 15:32:51 <iurgi> but well, I guess youtube just takes anything and then checks the real format, no matter the extension...
Jun 24 15:33:36 <Decodecoding> Yes , youtube acepts any kind of file
Jun 24 15:33:52 <iurgi> Decodecoding: ok
Jun 24 15:33:56 <iurgi> I'm gona take a file
Jun 24 15:34:08 <iurgi> and rename it to .mov, .mp4, .avi, .3gp etc
Jun 24 15:34:13 <iurgi> and try to upload all formats
Jun 24 15:34:18 <iurgi> without changing the real content of it
Jun 24 15:34:27 <iurgi> if this works... I guess it's all fine
Jun 24 15:34:34 <Decodecoding> Why don't you use a format converting software?
Jun 24 15:35:39 <iurgi> well
Jun 24 15:35:42 <iurgi> I was trying that
Jun 24 15:35:45 <iurgi> with vlc
Jun 24 15:36:16 <iurgi> and that's when I found that the file extension, the encapsulating format and the actual codecs for audio and video where totally unrelated
Jun 24 15:36:34 <iurgi> I got this 3gp video from my mobile, I wanted to convert it to a .mov file
Jun 24 15:36:42 <iurgi> I select the encapsulation as .mov
Jun 24 15:37:00 <iurgi> but then I can select any codec (dix, mpeg 1-2-3...)
Jun 24 15:37:06 <iurgi> and same for audio
Jun 24 15:37:16 <iurgi> so I have no clue what it really is worth doing and what not
Jun 24 15:37:28 <Decodecoding> I use a very simple commercial soft in windows that shows the real format inside the extension.
Jun 24 15:37:36 <iurgi> yes
Jun 24 15:37:38 <iurgi> I can see that too
Jun 24 15:37:40 <iurgi> with vlc
Jun 24 15:37:46 <Decodecoding> I see
Jun 24 15:37:53 <iurgi> but that is not my problem... my problem is I don't know what I should use
Jun 24 15:38:01 <iurgi> I can see all the formats and select any of them
Jun 24 15:38:06 <iurgi> so I don't see any pattern
Jun 24 15:38:21 <iurgi> and making all the combinations would mean having over 200 videos
Jun 24 15:38:24 <iurgi> or probably more
Jun 24 15:38:32 <iurgi> some probably unusable...
Jun 24 15:38:34 <Decodecoding> I think youtube will allow any format as long as fonera is able to send it
Jun 24 15:38:52 <iurgi> the fonera doesn't process any info...
Jun 24 15:39:01 <iurgi> it just tries to upload any file with the matching extension
Jun 24 15:39:07 <iurgi> so in the end... that's all I need to try
Jun 24 15:39:29 <iurgi> that all the extesions youtube claims to support are matched when a disk is inserted
Jun 24 15:39:30 <Decodecoding> right
Jun 24 15:39:32 <iurgi> well
Jun 24 15:39:35 <iurgi> I'll simply do that
Jun 24 15:43:07 <Decodecoding> More info on this: http://www.google.com/support/youtube/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=55744
Jun 24 15:43:25 <iurgi> yeah
Jun 24 15:43:29 <iurgi> already checked that
Jun 24 15:43:40 <Decodecoding> I supposed so ;-)
Jun 24 15:44:54 <iurgi> hehe
Jun 24 15:44:57 <iurgi> thanks anyway
Jun 24 15:45:45 <Decodecoding> Actually, it is, as you mentioned, a crazy codec world. My video-cam records in MP4 and I have to convert it to avi to video edit in Windoze and then, I get a .wmv which I eventually store as avi again... crazy
Jun 24 15:48:10 <iurgi> pffff
Jun 24 15:48:23 <iurgi> with 2 quality losses in the way
Jun 24 15:49:27 <Decodecoding> True, but not too much. At least for my crappy lcd TV
Jun 24 16:33:41 <Danicasti> iurgi: one question
Jun 24 16:33:45 <Danicasti> ...
Jun 24 16:34:55 <Danicasti> you are bysy?
Jun 24 16:35:01 <Danicasti> busy?
Jun 24 16:35:33 <iurgi> hi
Jun 24 16:35:39 <iurgi> nah, not much
Jun 24 16:36:03 <iurgi> I was checking this: http://www.linksysbycisco.com/US/en/products/WRT160NL
Jun 24 16:36:05 <Danicasti> i have a HTC touch dual
Jun 24 16:36:30 <Danicasti> without wi-fi :(
Jun 24 16:37:17 <iurgi> and?
Jun 24 16:37:37 <Danicasti> with bluetoot i connect it to the pc
Jun 24 16:37:54 <Danicasti> and have internet connection
Jun 24 16:38:30 <Danicasti> it's possible to have same scenario wit a F2???
Jun 24 16:38:37 <Danicasti> :)
Jun 24 16:40:30 <iurgi> Danicasti: I think it is
Jun 24 16:41:10 <iurgi> actuthe guy from nslu2 was working on that some time ago
Jun 24 16:41:17 <iurgi> but he disappeared
Jun 24 16:41:21 <iurgi> I think he's busy
Jun 24 16:41:30 <iurgi> but he did great progress
Jun 24 16:41:47 <iurgi> I actually think he even got successfully connected through it
Jun 24 16:41:56 <Danicasti> Yep!!
Jun 24 16:42:33 <Danicasti> Who is it?
Jun 24 16:42:45 <iurgi> can't remember the name right now
Jun 24 16:42:47 <iurgi> 1 sec
Jun 24 16:44:37 <Danicasti> :)
Jun 24 16:52:42 <Danicasti> I leave, return home, to the latest!
Jun 24 21:34:17 <Portugal> hello
Jun 24 21:34:25 <Portugal> I need some help here ppl
Jun 24 21:34:50 <Portugal> I have Firmware Version:  2.2.5.0
Jun 24 21:34:58 <Portugal> I want to upgrade it to 2.2.6
Jun 24 21:35:17 <Portugal> but the dashboard allways show: Firmware Version:  2.2.5.0
Jun 24 22:02:14 <alexandrecarvalh> hello! I would like to ask 2 questions:
Jun 24 22:02:36 <alexandrecarvalh> 1. Is there any guides or documentation available for developer?
Jun 24 22:02:58 <xMff> yes
Jun 24 22:03:23 <alexandrecarvalh> 2. Is there any way of accessing the media drives attached to Fonera? Allways asking me for password but no success
Jun 24 22:03:53 <alexandrecarvalh> and btw, where can I find info about this, been searching on the wiki but no success either
Jun 24 22:04:20 <xMff> 1) http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng
Jun 24 22:04:20 <xMff> 2) no idea, it should be possible with smb and ftp, aybe the username is wrong?
Jun 24 22:05:20 <alexandrecarvalh> im doing this from a Mac OS X, smb all the way and it keeps asking me for authentication
Jun 24 22:06:13 <xMff> you used "fonero" as username?
Jun 24 22:06:21 <alexandrecarvalh> sure did
Jun 24 22:06:21 <xMff> together with your admin pwd
Jun 24 22:06:24 <xMff> k
Jun 24 22:06:26 <xMff> no idea then
Jun 24 22:06:44 <xMff> I just lurking around here and have no fon-ng running right now :)
Jun 24 22:06:52 <alexandrecarvalh> is there anyway of accessing fonera thru a shell? ssh?
Jun 24 22:06:56 <xMff> yes
Jun 24 22:07:04 <xMff> you should be able to switch to developerm ode
Jun 24 22:07:21 <xMff> then after two reboots there should be ssh available
Jun 24 22:07:38 <alexandrecarvalh> ok, i'll dig it some more :)
Jun 24 22:08:31 <xMff> iirc there is some installable plugin to enable dev mode
Jun 24 22:29:34 <alexandrecarvalh> if anyone in the meanwhile woke up, Im getting NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE while trying to access fonera 2.0 usb media via samba
Jun 24 22:33:12 <alexandrecarvalh> and last but not least, how do I check which firmware version do I have?
Jun 24 22:33:39 <xMff> cat /etc/banner
Jun 24 22:34:35 <alexandrecarvalh> no ssh access xMff :D
Jun 24 22:36:14 <xMff> ah right, but it should also be displayed on the dashboard page
Jun 24 22:36:23 <xMff> http://wiki.fon.com/mediawiki/images/8/80/Fonera2-upgrade-application-instaled.png
Jun 24 22:36:28 <xMff> lower left corner
Jun 24 22:39:41 <alexandrecarvalh> it's weird because my dashboard looks completly different from that one
Jun 24 22:40:13 <alexandrecarvalh> it already has the flickr, picasa and facebook apps
Jun 24 22:41:16 <alexandrecarvalh> im getting a little disapointed with it. i like the idea of sharing my internet connection but im getting disapointed with the product
Jun 24 23:43:31 <drexler> hola a todos
Jun 24 23:44:05 <drexler> help: i cant get to the fonera 2.0 gui
Jun 24 23:49:49 <drexler_> Anyone here?
Jun 24 23:51:56 <drexler_> Hi Spami
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