**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 08 02:59:59 2009
Jul 08 06:35:51 <Danicasti> Hi! Buongiorno!
Jul 08 09:06:22 <Decodecoding> Good morning. I need a 3G stick for this summer and I'd like to know wich model works better with LF2. My carrier is Vodafone Spain.
Jul 08 09:07:18 <Decodecoding> Huawei E220 has reasonable prices. Is this model OK?
Jul 08 09:09:05 <blogic> Decodecoding: yes
Jul 08 09:09:15 <blogic> E220 is the one i used mainly for testing
Jul 08 09:09:59 <Decodecoding> Cool! So I think I'll get that one. I guess It's not the state of the art but I'll do
Jul 08 09:10:39 <Decodecoding> Thx
Jul 08 09:41:54 <blogic> mahahahahhaha
Jul 08 09:42:03 <blogic> Decodecoding: cookies are almost ready
Jul 08 09:42:04 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 09:42:15 <blogic> i forgot the sugar topping the first time :)
Jul 08 09:42:44 <Decodecoding> ha ha. So they taste sweeter
Jul 08 09:43:09 <Decodecoding> I'll have a dozen
Jul 08 09:45:45 <blogic> good
Jul 08 09:45:52 <blogic> you get 10% extra free :)
Jul 08 09:46:36 <Decodecoding> These cookies are Final, RC or pre-RC?
Jul 08 09:48:40 <blogic> RC4
Jul 08 09:48:51 <blogic> we need to see the user experience :)
Jul 08 09:48:58 <Decodecoding> I see
Jul 08 09:58:37 <kyros> hi all
Jul 08 10:01:22 <skynetbbs_> German ain't my motherlanguage but this seems to be FONthreatening news :  http://www.telemedicus.info/article/1391-OLG-Koeln-stoppt-schmarotzendes-WLAN-Sharing.html
Jul 08 10:02:11 <skynetbbs_> The first (female) fonero has been brought to court because she used FON to share her internet access... :(
Jul 08 10:04:07 <kyros> yes - bad news...
Jul 08 10:04:36 <kyros> I heared it in fonbord.de - it was a posing from one of our board members.
Jul 08 10:05:45 <kyros> if someone want to read it in english: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.telemedicus.info%2Farticle%2F1391-OLG-Koeln-stoppt-schmarotzendes-WLAN-Sharing.html
Jul 08 10:05:57 <Decodecoding> The strategy of seeding fear choosing a small victim... Just like record industry does
Jul 08 10:06:54 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 10:07:26 <iurgi> they even make them sign agreements threatening them even though the record industry knows they would lose the trial
Jul 08 10:07:32 <blogic> kyros: direct link in german ?
Jul 08 10:07:36 <iurgi> like this guy in spain
Jul 08 10:07:44 <iurgi> blogic: 2 lines above the other
Jul 08 10:07:57 <iurgi> 4 lines actually :P
Jul 08 10:08:10 <skynetbbs_> yeah the one from "skynetbbs" :-) but he's probably still in his blacklist? :-)
Jul 08 10:08:29 <kyros> didn't  FON communicated in the past that they will help Foneros if they get in trouble with provising FON?
Jul 08 10:09:18 <kyros> blogic: see skynetbbs's link above.
Jul 08 10:09:51 <kyros> 1rst link: http://www.telemedicus.info/article/1391-OLG-Koeln-stoppt-schmarotzendes-WLAN-Sharing.html
Jul 08 10:10:10 <kyros> 2nd link: http://www.telemedicus.info/urteile/Internetrecht/809-OLG-Koeln-Az-6-U-22308-WLAN-Sharing-ist-wettbewerbswidrig.html
Jul 08 10:10:19 <kyros> both in german
Jul 08 10:11:21 <kyros> didn't  FON communicated in the past that they will help Foneros if they get in trouble with providing FON?
Jul 08 10:11:31 <iurgi> kyros: no idea
Jul 08 10:11:52 <iurgi> what do you mean? using lawyers to defend foneros?
Jul 08 10:12:39 <kyros> yes - for instance. It is in FON's interest as well to protect their business modell.
Jul 08 10:13:09 <iurgi> kyros: no idea
Jul 08 10:14:22 <blogic> kyros: what provider was this ?
Jul 08 10:14:26 <blogic> this is bizarre :)
Jul 08 10:14:32 <kyros> Especially in this case where he female Fonero didn't make any misuse or other illegal activity - she just provided FON as she should according to FON's terms and business modell.
Jul 08 10:15:07 <blogic> lol court case was in cologne
Jul 08 10:15:14 <blogic> home of the german gay community
Jul 08 10:15:22 <kyros> blogic - the webinfo about the court decision was anonymized.
Jul 08 10:15:40 <blogic> kyros: yes, i will callthe court in asec and have the name then :)
Jul 08 10:15:44 <blogic> it is germany after all
Jul 08 10:15:50 <blogic> the documents are open :)
Jul 08 10:16:09 <kyros> yes - this would be interesting.
Jul 08 10:16:10 <blogic> i think i will contact the piraten partei aswlel
Jul 08 10:16:21 <blogic> kyros: it will be netcologne
Jul 08 10:16:23 <Decodecoding> The provider should be known
Jul 08 10:16:24 <kyros> superb idea.
Jul 08 10:16:35 <blogic> netcologne is a shitty provider anyway
Jul 08 10:16:37 <blogic> see
Jul 08 10:16:45 <iurgi> let's find out which one it is
Jul 08 10:16:49 <blogic> worste case you cannot make money for your fon located in germany
Jul 08 10:17:19 <blogic> bill is dead !!!!
Jul 08 10:17:21 <blogic> yehaaa
Jul 08 10:17:27 <blogic> viva la linus
Jul 08 10:17:31 <iurgi> haha
Jul 08 10:17:34 <kyros> no - providing FON is forbitten generally as it is written there.
Jul 08 10:17:36 <iurgi> I'm fine with it
Jul 08 10:17:41 <iurgi> linus=more money for my salary
Jul 08 10:17:41 <iurgi> lol
Jul 08 10:18:05 <blogic> kyros: ?
Jul 08 10:18:06 <kyros> bills can be teken to the court to pay for ISP's lost business incomes...
Jul 08 10:18:06 <blogic> kyros: no
Jul 08 10:18:15 <blogic> but not linuses
Jul 08 10:18:16 <Decodecoding> And who's gonna pay for my foneras if aliens don't? (H)
Jul 08 10:18:16 <blogic> imho
Jul 08 10:18:27 <blogic> Decodecoding: no more aliens in germany
Jul 08 10:18:41 <iurgi> blogic???
Jul 08 10:18:46 <Decodecoding> They are welcome in Spain
Jul 08 10:18:49 <iurgi> no bill != no alien
Jul 08 10:18:55 <kyros> blogic: read the second link where the write about compensation...
Jul 08 10:19:01 <blogic> iurgi: if you cannot make money bill and alien die
Jul 08 10:19:07 <iurgi> blogic: no
Jul 08 10:19:27 <blogic> actually i do not care really
Jul 08 10:19:31 <blogic> i make routers
Jul 08 10:19:31 <iurgi> :)
Jul 08 10:19:39 <blogic> germany is a weird country
Jul 08 10:19:41 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 10:19:48 <blogic> luckily i live in hamburg
Jul 08 10:19:59 <blogic> east of hamburg we have ddr
Jul 08 10:20:06 <blogic> south is bavaria/france
Jul 08 10:20:12 <blogic> north is northpole
Jul 08 10:20:14 <blogic> and west is us
Jul 08 10:20:17 <kyros> as I understood linuses will get a dissuasion, bills risk to pay compensation additionally.
Jul 08 10:20:21 <blogic> geography has never been easier
Jul 08 10:20:29 <blogic> dissuasion ?
Jul 08 10:20:38 <kyros> abmahnung
Jul 08 10:20:43 <blogic> ah ok
Jul 08 10:20:44 <blogic> fine
Jul 08 10:20:47 <blogic> send it over :)
Jul 08 10:23:12 <kyros> but I couldn't find out in the text how the court  thinks about FON incomes on a linus account...
Jul 08 10:23:30 <blogic> phewww
Jul 08 10:23:35 <blogic> clearly the judge had no idea
Jul 08 10:23:40 <blogic> also, i got a flatrate
Jul 08 10:23:46 <kyros> dissuasion, or dissuasion+compensation -  and who pays?
Jul 08 10:23:47 <blogic> from what i understand it is a flatrate
Jul 08 10:23:54 <blogic> kyros: not to worry
Jul 08 10:23:57 <blogic> it wont happen
Jul 08 10:24:01 <blogic> anyhow
Jul 08 10:24:23 <kyros> yes - it was a single court decision.
Jul 08 10:24:39 <blogic> kyros: that would make freifunk illegal aswell
Jul 08 10:24:45 <blogic> which is sponsored by T
Jul 08 10:25:12 <blogic> i would not worry
Jul 08 10:25:22 <blogic> i assume iurgi passed the links on ?
Jul 08 10:25:30 <kyros> nevertheless it's highly recommended for FON to react and try to appeal in the court to revise this decision
Jul 08 10:25:35 <iurgi> of course
Jul 08 10:25:38 <Decodecoding> Yeah, but that poor girls must be having such a bad time...
Jul 08 10:25:39 <blogic> kyros: really =
Jul 08 10:25:41 <iurgi> kyros: you think so?
Jul 08 10:25:42 <blogic> kyros: really )
Jul 08 10:25:52 <iurgi> thanks for the advise :)
Jul 08 10:25:54 <blogic> kyros: you are a smart thinker
Jul 08 10:25:57 <blogic> amazoing
Jul 08 10:26:09 <blogic> iurgi: if he had not told us ...... phew, kyros just saved FON :)
Jul 08 10:26:40 <kyros> hehe kidding
Jul 08 10:27:08 <kyros> indeed the girl had really bad luck
Jul 08 10:27:33 <blogic> kyros: it was clear that 1und1/netcologne/telekom had to use a court in cologne and attack a woman
Jul 08 10:27:36 <blogic> lol
Jul 08 10:27:39 <blogic> germany is so funny
Jul 08 10:27:49 <blogic> they learned nothing from the 6 million jews they murdered
Jul 08 10:27:51 <kyros> have to leave for a moment - bee right back
Jul 08 10:27:52 <skynetbbs_> I'm curious if Eplus is still interested in keeping the Foneras powered in their shops now that it's considered illegal untill proven otherwise (in another courtcase?)
Jul 08 10:27:53 <blogic> it is bizarre
Jul 08 10:28:09 <blogic> skynetbbs_: panic
Jul 08 10:28:32 <blogic> skynetbbs_: maybe you can see it a productive way
Jul 08 10:28:33 <iurgi> skynetbbs_: what is considered illegal?
Jul 08 10:28:39 <blogic> we have partners that can go to court with us
Jul 08 10:28:48 <blogic> iurgi: FON
Jul 08 10:28:49 <iurgi> you mean FON is illegal in germany?!?
Jul 08 10:28:57 <iurgi> ?!?!!??!?!
Jul 08 10:28:58 <blogic> iurgi: with that courtcase using a FONspot is illegal
Jul 08 10:29:01 <blogic> yes
Jul 08 10:29:09 <blogic> this is how i understand the court text
Jul 08 10:29:13 <blogic> might be totally wrong
Jul 08 10:29:17 <iurgi> might be
Jul 08 10:29:18 <blogic> well, sharing wifi is illegal
Jul 08 10:29:22 <blogic> not fon as such
Jul 08 10:29:25 <iurgi> with whom?
Jul 08 10:29:34 <blogic> !neighbour
Jul 08 10:29:47 <blogic> you may share with the neighbour but not be part of a sharing community
Jul 08 10:29:55 <blogic> instead you have to join hitlerjugend
Jul 08 10:29:59 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 10:30:06 <blogic> germany FUCK YEAH !!!
Jul 08 10:30:10 <blogic> :D
Jul 08 10:30:18 <blogic> i would not worry
Jul 08 10:30:19 <iurgi> hehehehe
Jul 08 10:30:31 <blogic> we just chnage the business model in the worste case
Jul 08 10:31:03 <blogic> and the new fon20 allows you to disable sharing anyway
Jul 08 10:31:18 <blogic> see
Jul 08 10:31:20 <pablo_bz> yes, we can fuck up chilli in all german foneras so they do not share anymore
Jul 08 10:31:29 <skynetbbs_> yes... translation of that text "Instead of using their own technical and organizational services at wholesale by a third party in order to develop the market, they use one of the applicant under different conditions created infrastructure "parasitic" to deal with its own offer on the commercial market. ""
Jul 08 10:31:32 <Decodecoding> That's an interesting feature
Jul 08 10:31:40 <Decodecoding> although I don't like it
Jul 08 10:32:06 <blogic> skynetbbs_: the word parasitic, that is an eye catcher for you
Jul 08 10:32:11 <blogic> sounds like panic, eyh ?
Jul 08 10:32:13 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 10:32:23 <blogic> hihi
Jul 08 10:32:49 <skynetbbs_> who knows :-)
Jul 08 10:33:04 <blogic> haha
Jul 08 10:34:42 <blogic> iurgi: i will have to fly back to germany today, otherwise ze germans will blitzkrieg my flat in hamburg to remove the foneras :)
Jul 08 10:34:55 <blogic> i love my home country i honestly do
Jul 08 10:34:59 <blogic> best health system
Jul 08 10:35:00 <iurgi> ok, I'll get you martin's private jet
Jul 08 10:35:04 <blogic> financial stability ...
Jul 08 10:35:14 <iurgi> let me call Albert, the driver
Jul 08 10:35:14 <blogic> but sometimes the courts seem to be on crack
Jul 08 10:35:19 <iurgi> best health system?
Jul 08 10:35:22 <iurgi> who says that?
Jul 08 10:35:24 <blogic> iurgi: me
Jul 08 10:35:25 <iurgi> hehe
Jul 08 10:35:28 <iurgi> ah ok
Jul 08 10:35:35 <blogic> iurgi: i was in hospitals in many eu countries
Jul 08 10:35:40 <blogic> germany was the best by miles
Jul 08 10:35:47 <blogic> the education in .de sucks though
Jul 08 10:35:48 <iurgi> ok, it's an opinion
Jul 08 10:35:50 <iurgi> then I accept it
Jul 08 10:35:56 <iurgi> no, education in Spain sucks
Jul 08 10:35:59 <iurgi> that's reall sucking
Jul 08 10:36:08 <blogic> good
Jul 08 10:36:22 <blogic> where can we find her ? she can show me :)
Jul 08 10:36:25 <blogic> anyhow
Jul 08 10:36:28 <blogic> back to work
Jul 08 10:36:43 <blogic> and iurgi why are we chatting if i can see you 2meters away ?
Jul 08 10:37:22 <kyros> wifi sharing isn't illegal according to this this court decision
Jul 08 10:37:30 <blogic> ?
Jul 08 10:37:40 <blogic> kyros: dann sag mal wie du das verstehst
Jul 08 10:37:49 <blogic> ich stehe bei jura texten immer aufm schlauch
Jul 08 10:37:54 <kyros> ony if you make money with this (or when FON does).
Jul 08 10:38:03 <blogic> ah ok
Jul 08 10:38:24 <kyros> when you share for free with your firends and neighbours it's not illegal.
Jul 08 10:38:32 <iurgi> lol
Jul 08 10:38:35 <blogic> so linus all the way
Jul 08 10:38:59 <kyros> but if you charge for this you intrude the ISPs business modell.
Jul 08 10:39:15 <blogic> kyros: i see
Jul 08 10:39:28 <blogic> kyros: makes no sense really, but ok
Jul 08 10:39:36 <kyros> yes that's interesting. linuses do't get money for sharing their hotspots - but FON does.
Jul 08 10:39:47 <blogic> kyros: indeed
Jul 08 10:39:56 <blogic> kyros: like any hotspot
Jul 08 10:40:34 <kyros> yes -  bis ISPs offers special contracts if you run a commercial hotspot.
Jul 08 10:40:55 <kyros> but ISPs offers special contracts if you run a commercial hotspot.
Jul 08 10:41:03 <Decodecoding> I wonder how that ISP knew that person was sharing her WiFi with Fon? Is there a method apart from going under your window with a laptop?
Jul 08 10:41:18 <blogic> Decodecoding: sniffing traffic
Jul 08 10:41:28 <blogic> Decodecoding: germany has a huge experience in this
Jul 08 10:41:59 <Decodecoding> I don't get it... Sniffing traffic from or to Fon servers?
Jul 08 10:42:04 <kyros> Decodecoding: easy: FON-Maps
Jul 08 10:42:44 <kyros> Then they check it agains their customer address database
Jul 08 10:42:51 <iurgi> kyros: lol
Jul 08 10:43:00 <iurgi> yuo think that is enough to take someone to courts?
Jul 08 10:43:11 <iurgi> you're definitely a bit nuts :P
Jul 08 10:43:28 <Decodecoding> So I could fool neighbours I don't like placing a fonera on their house...
Jul 08 10:43:31 <iurgi> fon maps prove nothing, they can be spoofed, they are not actual traffic or sharing
Jul 08 10:43:45 <iurgi> that is like taking someone to trial for being a fonero because they eat bananas
Jul 08 10:44:01 <blogic> iurgi:
Jul 08 10:44:07 <kyros> no - it just has to be enough to fear all Foneros so they switch off FON - so a competior is reased by doing <10 court cases.
Jul 08 10:44:10 <blogic> they can see the heartbeat to the chuchu
Jul 08 10:44:16 <iurgi> blogic: yes
Jul 08 10:44:19 <blogic> anyhow germans are very good at being evil
Jul 08 10:44:22 <iurgi> but not for the fon maps
Jul 08 10:44:22 <blogic> look at history
Jul 08 10:44:33 <iurgi> I was only saying the fon maps have not been used for that
Jul 08 10:44:33 <blogic> the DDR and BRD where the front of the cold war
Jul 08 10:44:43 <iurgi> no judge would accept a case for a fon map
Jul 08 10:44:49 <blogic> in iran the population is supressed with technology made by noki and siemes
Jul 08 10:44:50 <iurgi> they sniffed traffic, I'm pretty sure
Jul 08 10:44:56 <blogic> iurgi: indeed
Jul 08 10:45:09 <blogic> the surveilance aparatus in germany is immense
Jul 08 10:45:18 <blogic> look at it differently
Jul 08 10:45:29 <blogic> germany is the only country that managed to kill all its terrorists
Jul 08 10:45:34 <blogic> the RAF is no more
Jul 08 10:45:38 <Decodecoding> That's the scary part of this
Jul 08 10:45:47 <blogic> and look what they are doing to the G8 enemies and militant gruppe
Jul 08 10:45:54 <kyros>  blogic: yes, but the possibility to do this is included in all our countries used technology
Jul 08 10:46:18 <blogic> Decodecoding: well, germans are the most efficient at war, surveillance, genocide,....
Jul 08 10:46:37 <blogic> kyros: the germans are the only that use it to this extent
Jul 08 10:46:43 <blogic> and dont tell me history is wrong
Jul 08 10:46:44 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 10:46:48 <kyros> all nokia and siemens infrastructure offers this - the police has to use this for observing criminals
Jul 08 10:46:53 <blogic> germany has the worste record off all countries
Jul 08 10:47:06 <blogic> kyros: of course, they are all nice guys
Jul 08 10:47:08 <blogic> lol
Jul 08 10:47:15 <CyrusFF> germany! fuck yeah!
Jul 08 10:47:18 <CyrusFF> :-P
Jul 08 10:47:21 <blogic> CyrusFF: yeahhhh
Jul 08 10:47:39 <blogic> still, after 3 days in spain, i want nothing more than to go home
Jul 08 10:47:45 <blogic> things are ordered in germany
Jul 08 10:47:47 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 10:47:52 <CyrusFF> haha
Jul 08 10:47:52 <kyros> no - they just use it for bad things. these tools has to be enabled to use by court decision in single cases, not generally for the whole population.
Jul 08 10:47:56 <blogic> not like spain which is a disaster
Jul 08 10:48:02 <CyrusFF> lol why?
Jul 08 10:48:19 <blogic> CyrusFF: would take too long to explain
Jul 08 10:48:36 <CyrusFF> ok :-)
Jul 08 10:48:37 <blogic> kyros: germans have a habit of supressing populations
Jul 08 10:48:47 <blogic> kyros: and are very good at it
Jul 08 10:48:57 <blogic> that is just a fact
Jul 08 10:49:04 <blogic> histroy is history
Jul 08 10:49:16 <kyros> but there is a strong open source force in germany as well
Jul 08 10:49:24 <blogic> kyros: yes, me
Jul 08 10:49:29 <blogic> and CyrusFF
Jul 08 10:49:30 <kyros> or the CCC
Jul 08 10:49:31 <blogic> and other
Jul 08 10:49:35 <blogic> lol
Jul 08 10:49:36 <CyrusFF> bah the CCC
Jul 08 10:49:39 <blogic> CCC hahah
Jul 08 10:49:42 <blogic> CCCB maybe
Jul 08 10:49:44 <CyrusFF> lol good joke
Jul 08 10:49:48 <blogic> frank, c., fefe, ....
Jul 08 10:49:54 <blogic> they are nice
Jul 08 10:50:00 <blogic> maguhn is funny to ttalk to
Jul 08 10:50:10 <blogic> but the rest of CCC is not operational
Jul 08 10:50:28 <blogic> in HH we tried to get a new room to hack in for months now and it fails due to morons
Jul 08 10:50:31 <kyros> so let us be operational, ok?
Jul 08 10:50:42 <blogic> so, yes cccberlon and its pilot büro are productive
Jul 08 10:50:48 <blogic> kyros: ?
Jul 08 10:51:19 <kyros> let's make constructive plans or assitance - for instance in this case now,
Jul 08 10:51:21 <blogic> kyros: i stopped getting involved in ccc politics, i hate fundamentalists
Jul 08 10:51:30 <blogic> kyros: lol
Jul 08 10:51:37 <blogic> kyros: you have studied lwas in uni ?
Jul 08 10:51:46 <blogic> otherwise i would prefer the professionals take care of it
Jul 08 10:51:48 <kyros> I leave for lunch...
Jul 08 10:51:52 <blogic> bye
Jul 08 10:52:25 <kyros> mechanical engeneering/economy
Jul 08 10:52:33 <kyros> cu all l8a
Jul 08 10:52:52 <blogic> kyros: as i said, leave it for the lawyers imho
Jul 08 10:54:45 <Decodecoding> however, in the file sharing side, seems like lately, judges in Spain are starting to ignore Right Management lobbies
Jul 08 10:55:00 <CyrusFF> if you want to do politics join the pirate party, haha
Jul 08 10:55:16 <blogic> CyrusFF: or the ccc
Jul 08 10:55:22 <blogic> if you wanna hack, join openwrt
Jul 08 10:55:23 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 10:55:24 <blogic> \o/
Jul 08 10:55:26 <blogic> or debian
Jul 08 10:55:32 <blogic> or !suse
Jul 08 10:55:34 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 10:55:56 <CyrusFF> yeah
Jul 08 10:56:50 <Decodecoding> What do you think of Google OS coming next year? Will it be the next Microsoft?
Jul 08 10:57:00 <blogic> Decodecoding: yes
Jul 08 10:57:10 <blogic> Decodecoding: i have a android phone since 3 days
Jul 08 10:57:12 <blogic> love it
Jul 08 10:57:13 <Decodecoding> It is linux based, isn't it?
Jul 08 10:57:18 <blogic> lol
Jul 08 10:57:18 <CyrusFF> it is
Jul 08 10:57:20 <blogic> of course
Jul 08 10:57:29 <blogic> sergej has a brain, so it is linux based
Jul 08 10:57:44 <blogic> open source/communites/.... will boom in the next 20 years
Jul 08 10:57:53 <Decodecoding> I'm also thinking of replacing my Blackberry by an android phone
Jul 08 10:58:00 <blogic> society is at a point where people are no longer scared of goverments
Jul 08 10:58:10 <blogic> Decodecoding: the htc magic is amazing i must say
Jul 08 10:58:11 <CyrusFF> hmm android still needs time imo
Jul 08 10:58:18 <blogic> far superior to the blackberry imho
Jul 08 10:58:22 <blogic> CyrusFF: it does
Jul 08 10:58:27 <blogic> but you can already see the idea
Jul 08 10:58:33 <blogic> 2.0 will be the first real stable
Jul 08 10:58:41 <blogic> they are suffering the same problems as us
Jul 08 10:58:49 <CyrusFF> yes
Jul 08 10:59:09 <Decodecoding> Does Magic support push mail? And how does battery behave with push mail activated?
Jul 08 11:00:06 <blogic> no idea
Jul 08 11:00:11 <blogic> i dont use it for mail
Jul 08 11:00:26 <blogic> but battery when you use it alot with 3G and it syncing stuff lasts like 1-2 days
Jul 08 11:00:34 <blogic> but it is a joy to use
Jul 08 11:00:52 <Decodecoding> Yeah, I've seen some demo videos.
Jul 08 11:01:28 <CyrusFF> google is doing really nice things
Jul 08 11:03:51 <pablo_bz> i fear
Jul 08 11:04:18 <Decodecoding> Yes, they start to get a bit scary too.
Jul 08 11:04:50 <blogic> Decodecoding: well
Jul 08 11:04:52 <blogic> depends
Jul 08 11:05:02 <blogic> you can turn of the shitty features in general
Jul 08 11:05:10 <blogic> like the geolocation of the android
Jul 08 11:05:19 <blogic> but then gps is only 50m accurate
Jul 08 11:05:29 <blogic> if you want more, you need to expose data to them
Jul 08 11:05:49 <blogic> the only real "problem" is, you need a google acoutn to use the android phone
Jul 08 11:05:58 <blogic> so dont load pr0n with it :=
Jul 08 11:06:56 <Decodecoding> I don't mean GPS localiation, but search history records and so
Jul 08 11:07:10 <blogic> yes
Jul 08 11:07:18 <blogic> you have that on your dsl already
Jul 08 11:07:26 <blogic> i am not too worried
Jul 08 11:07:26 <Decodecoding> sure
Jul 08 11:07:32 <CyrusFF> but they are really supporting OpenSource in many many ways
Jul 08 11:07:37 <blogic> CyrusFF: :)
Jul 08 11:07:39 <blogic> indeed
Jul 08 11:07:42 <Decodecoding> I'm not paranoid about that
Jul 08 11:07:45 <CyrusFF> like paying me money, haha :-P
Jul 08 11:08:42 <blogic> Decodecoding: i am android about it
Jul 08 11:09:17 <Decodecoding> lolz
Jul 08 11:17:13 <pablo_bz> trWAHAHAHA
Jul 08 11:17:21 <pablo_bz> sorry
Jul 08 11:46:40 <Barbon> wee
Jul 08 11:47:09 <iurgi> hi Barbon
Jul 08 11:47:23 <blogic> Barbon: !!!
Jul 08 11:47:25 <blogic> juhu
Jul 08 11:47:40 <Barbon> olà Iurgi blogic :)
Jul 08 11:48:00 <Barbon> i have read the bad comments that put
Jul 08 11:48:04 <Barbon> on fonosfera
Jul 08 11:48:25 <Barbon> where is the problem with bridge?
Jul 08 11:48:35 <Barbon> is because have 2 signal wireless?
Jul 08 11:49:06 <iurgi> no
Jul 08 11:49:20 <iurgi> bad ocmments? a
Jul 08 11:49:22 <iurgi> austinTX?
Jul 08 11:49:30 <iurgi> boring
Jul 08 11:49:38 <Barbon> yea about him also
Jul 08 11:50:14 <Barbon> #  FON sucks Says:
Jul 08 11:50:16 <Barbon> July 2nd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Jul 08 11:50:17 <blogic> bad ocmments? a
Jul 08 11:50:18 <Barbon> FON sucks ! Of course!
Jul 08 11:50:20 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 11:50:31 <iurgi> ah
Jul 08 11:50:31 <iurgi> yeah
Jul 08 11:50:38 <iurgi> I accepted that one
Jul 08 11:50:41 <iurgi> I found it ufnny
Jul 08 11:50:44 <iurgi> funny
Jul 08 11:50:50 <iurgi> very well argumented and so on
Jul 08 11:51:01 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 11:51:07 <blogic> iurgi: link ?
Jul 08 11:51:12 <iurgi> blog.fonosfera.org
Jul 08 11:51:21 <iurgi> somewhere around
Jul 08 11:51:44 <Barbon> yea on the latest new
Jul 08 11:52:33 <Barbon> fon2 missing bridge and stability
Jul 08 11:52:57 <Barbon> is an ploblem of fon1 also
Jul 08 11:53:04 <Barbon> but resolvable by installing ddwrt
Jul 08 11:53:35 <Decodecoding> Fon 1 for me is 100% stable...
Jul 08 11:53:52 <Decodecoding> I've tested it over and over for two years now
Jul 08 11:53:56 <blogic> Decodecoding: consider it this way
Jul 08 11:54:04 <blogic> 99,5% of users are happy
Jul 08 11:54:15 <Barbon> mmm
Jul 08 11:54:17 <blogic> you only ever see the 0.5%
Jul 08 11:54:29 <pablo_bz> tra
Jul 08 11:54:31 <Barbon> mmm
Jul 08 11:54:31 <pablo_bz> tralalalala
Jul 08 11:54:34 <pablo_bz> wo o o
Jul 08 11:54:51 <blogic> i mean, do you go to the shop to say, "the bread/cheeses is good" or do you only tell them when you are not happy ?
Jul 08 11:54:55 <Barbon> blogic is already implemented the recovery mode of megaupload plugin, torrent and other?
Jul 08 11:54:58 <blogic> i am ahppy we here no success stories
Jul 08 11:55:04 <blogic> the blog would not hold the load
Jul 08 11:55:05 <blogic> :)
Jul 08 11:55:19 <Barbon> because if the fon lost the connection for 1-5 sec the file stop to be downloaded
Jul 08 11:55:27 <Barbon> and will be not downloaded
Jul 08 11:55:33 <Decodecoding> It took some version for Fon 1.0 to be stable, but finally it did
Jul 08 11:57:05 <Decodecoding> The good thing about Fonera 1 is it was auto updated. That was bad for hacking purposes but when you have your fonera hidden in your rooftop, you really aprecite it... :-d
Jul 08 11:57:20 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 11:59:46 <Barbon> maybe for bridge mode you can make an plugin for select to use wireless bridge or lan bridge
Jul 08 11:59:52 <Barbon> it can be an idea?
Jul 08 12:00:03 <Barbon> so no conflict
Jul 08 12:01:41 <Barbon> it was that the problem?
Jul 08 12:03:20 <Barbon> anyone here?
Jul 08 12:08:57 <Barbon> Once upon a time, Iurgi and Barbon always playing football and their fail again
Jul 08 12:43:46 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 12:43:55 <Barbon> iurgi y have read what i have write?
Jul 08 12:45:28 <iurgi> on the blog?
Jul 08 12:45:57 <blogic> blog ?
Jul 08 12:46:00 <blogic> i can has blog ?
Jul 08 12:46:24 <iurgi> no
Jul 08 12:47:39 <Barbon> in chat
Jul 08 12:47:42 <Barbon> ... xD
Jul 08 12:47:48 <Barbon> go up
Jul 08 12:47:50 <Barbon> and read
Jul 08 12:48:00 <Barbon> Barbon>	maybe for bridge mode you can make an plugin for select to use wireless bridge or lan bridge
Jul 08 12:48:16 <Barbon> is that problem?
Jul 08 12:49:30 <iurgi> I don't understand
Jul 08 12:49:52 <iurgi> anyway: http://blog.fonosfera.org/here-it-is-the-long-awaited-rc3-ehr-rc4/
Jul 08 12:52:18 <Barbon> what is Upload service queuing: if you plug a disk with media to upload to different services (YouTube, Flickr, Picasa or Facebook) they will now be queued and uploaded serially and not in parallel (which caused the fonera to run out of memmory and crash).
Jul 08 12:52:29 <Barbon> no need to replug disk again?
Jul 08 12:53:23 <Barbon> lol coll
Jul 08 12:54:39 <Barbon> i test imediatly :)
Jul 08 12:55:17 <iurgi> Barbon: no, it's not that
Jul 08 12:55:20 <iurgi> that is next point
Jul 08 12:55:24 <Barbon> is for fix
Jul 08 12:55:40 <iurgi> # Send files from samba and they will be uploaded to your applications. No need to unplug and replug the disk! More and more user friendly every time :P
Jul 08 12:55:42 <Barbon> for prevent crash
Jul 08 12:55:49 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 12:55:52 <iurgi> it's a fix to prevent crash
Jul 08 12:55:54 <Decodecoding> OMFG, it's released!
Jul 08 12:56:08 <Barbon> yeee take take it before it finish!
Jul 08 12:56:09 <iurgi> yup
Jul 08 12:56:18 <Barbon> really big update
Jul 08 12:56:21 <iurgi> lots of good news
Jul 08 12:56:22 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 12:56:28 <iurgi> long time...
Jul 08 12:56:32 <Barbon> how much time take to write this?
Jul 08 12:56:33 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 12:57:02 <blogic> Decodecoding: indeed
Jul 08 12:57:16 <Decodecoding> I was eating lunch...
Jul 08 12:59:55 <Barbon> mm there must be an problem with web update
Jul 08 13:00:18 <Barbon> i have select it and fonera reboot without updating
Jul 08 13:00:21 <Barbon> o.o
Jul 08 13:00:46 <iurgi> ?
Jul 08 13:00:52 <iurgi> worked for me 1h ago
Jul 08 13:00:59 <Barbon> mmm
Jul 08 13:01:00 <iurgi> anyone can confirm the same problem?
Jul 08 13:01:13 <blogic> iurgi: what problem ?
Jul 08 13:01:24 <Decodecoding> I can't until tonight and will probably use Redboot
Jul 08 13:01:48 <Barbon> i try again
Jul 08 13:01:50 <Barbon> wait
Jul 08 13:04:30 <iurgi> blogic: 13:01 < Barbon> mm there must be an problem with web update
Jul 08 13:04:30 <iurgi> 13:02 < Barbon> i have select it and fonera reboot without updating
Jul 08 13:05:33 <blogic> Decodecoding: redboot rocks
Jul 08 13:05:37 <blogic> it works for 1 :)
Jul 08 13:06:14 <Decodecoding> Yeah, it is like all brand new
Jul 08 13:38:20 <jorgesuarezdelis> hi :)
Jul 08 13:38:42 <jorgesuarezdelis> congratulations by the release
Jul 08 13:39:15 <jorgesuarezdelis> couldn't test it though (i have no full internet access on my new home by now)
Jul 08 13:44:30 <iurgi> hi
Jul 08 13:44:38 <iurgi> thanks
Jul 08 13:44:40 <iurgi> no problem
Jul 08 13:44:50 <iurgi> you will be ignored till you have internet at home
Jul 08 13:44:55 <iurgi> :)
Jul 08 13:47:00 <blogic> jorgesuarezdelis: :(
Jul 08 13:47:43 <Barbon> hey
Jul 08 13:47:45 <Decodecoding> If you don't have internet, you can always steal it
Jul 08 13:47:49 <Barbon> updated :)
Jul 08 13:48:03 <blogic> Decodecoding: or use fon :)
Jul 08 13:48:32 <Barbon> i test funtionality now :)
Jul 08 13:48:52 <Barbon> why is created a no-name wifi with my main wifi?
Jul 08 13:49:18 <Barbon> it was disapered now
Jul 08 13:49:20 <Barbon> ops XD
Jul 08 13:50:49 <iurgi> Barbon: can you just be patient?
Jul 08 13:50:53 <iurgi> let the fonera boot :)
Jul 08 13:51:16 <Barbon> yea noticed
Jul 08 13:51:39 <Barbon> fonera have to open wireless when all system was loaded no?
Jul 08 13:52:39 <iurgi> yes, kind of
Jul 08 13:55:14 <Barbon> mmm i cant acess to my disk
Jul 08 13:55:21 <Barbon> by ftp
Jul 08 13:56:00 <iurgi> ftp is disabled
Jul 08 13:56:01 <iurgi> ...
Jul 08 13:56:19 <Barbon> i can enable it?
Jul 08 13:56:28 <iurgi> sure
Jul 08 13:56:32 <Barbon> ok found
Jul 08 13:56:32 <iurgi> if you need it
Jul 08 13:56:41 <Barbon> because i use windows vista
Jul 08 13:56:45 <iurgi> but I would rather use ftp or samba
Jul 08 13:56:45 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 13:56:50 <Barbon> so i have to use it
Jul 08 13:57:03 <iurgi> the, disable samba to save memmory
Jul 08 13:59:09 <Barbon> samba is= shared network Windows
Jul 08 13:59:10 <Barbon> ?
Jul 08 14:00:02 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 14:01:53 <Barbon> mmm i can add the disk into My comuter window?
Jul 08 14:02:03 <iurgi> in XP yes
Jul 08 14:02:08 <iurgi> in vista I don't know
Jul 08 14:02:12 <iurgi> it depends on the version
Jul 08 14:02:12 <Barbon> i have to test
Jul 08 14:03:27 <Barbon> it say wrong name or pass
Jul 08 14:03:41 <Barbon> i try it on xp
Jul 08 14:03:43 <Barbon> sec
Jul 08 14:03:47 <iurgi> what do you use?
Jul 08 14:03:53 <Decodecoding> Barbon, wich vista do you have?
Jul 08 14:04:08 <Barbon> home premium
Jul 08 14:04:15 <Decodecoding> Same as me
Jul 08 14:04:38 <Decodecoding> There's a small registry hack that has to be done in order to get authenticated in samba
Jul 08 14:04:48 <Decodecoding> I'll search for it and tell you
Jul 08 14:05:45 <Barbon> ok thank
Jul 08 14:05:49 <Barbon> :D
Jul 08 14:07:12 <Barbon> wrong name and pass to xp too
Jul 08 14:07:14 <Barbon> o-o
Jul 08 14:07:31 <jorgesuarezdelis> uhmm
Jul 08 14:07:45 <jorgesuarezdelis> the new firmware has no development mode enabled by default, right?
Jul 08 14:07:51 <blogic> jorgesuarezdelis: nope
Jul 08 14:08:00 <blogic> there is a button to activate it
Jul 08 14:08:45 <jorgesuarezdelis> :( i can't just ring my neighbour to ask him "hey, i'm stealing your internet, can i connect this gadget to your router so i can enable the development mode?"
Jul 08 14:09:23 <jorgesuarezdelis> access the internet via wifi isn't enabled in enduser mode right?
Jul 08 14:09:37 <iurgi> Barbon: what username are you using?
Jul 08 14:09:44 <Barbon> fonero
Jul 08 14:09:48 <Barbon> pass = fonera pass
Jul 08 14:10:02 <iurgi> Barbon: hmmmm
Jul 08 14:10:26 <iurgi> the password you had before reflashing via web inteface, right?
Jul 08 14:10:34 <iurgi> btw, you reflashed using web interface, right?
Jul 08 14:10:45 <Barbon> yea
Jul 08 14:10:58 <Barbon> the pass was the same
Jul 08 14:11:39 <Barbon> i have to update by using redboot?
Jul 08 14:11:49 <iurgi> no
Jul 08 14:13:04 <Barbon> so what can be?
Jul 08 14:13:15 <Barbon> also ftp dont work
Jul 08 14:14:50 <Decodecoding> Barbon, check every poarameter first
Jul 08 14:19:11 <Barbon> ok work now
Jul 08 14:19:20 <Barbon> the ftp work
Jul 08 14:20:22 <Barbon> im waiting for hack fix :P
Jul 08 14:21:29 <Barbon> transmission work trasmission i coll
Jul 08 14:21:38 <Barbon> i have installed it and now ask me user and pass
Jul 08 14:21:41 <Barbon> what are there?
Jul 08 14:21:49 <Decodecoding> Barbon:
Jul 08 14:21:51 <Decodecoding> If you're running a version of Vista that cannot use secpol.msc, you can edit the registry instead. Just change the value of HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa\LMCompatibilityLevel from a 3 to a 1.
Jul 08 14:22:23 <Barbon> ok i try
Jul 08 14:22:36 <Barbon> ps cool torrent interface :P
Jul 08 14:22:46 <Decodecoding> Maybe this hack should be added to the Fon Wiki
Jul 08 14:23:44 <Barbon> ok edited
Jul 08 14:23:48 <Barbon> i have to reboot windows?
Jul 08 14:24:02 <Decodecoding> Yes
Jul 08 14:27:51 <iurgi> he did
Jul 08 14:27:52 <iurgi> :)
Jul 08 14:28:14 <Barbon> damn Decodecoding you are an GOD
Jul 08 14:28:20 <Barbon> is working fine!
Jul 08 14:28:38 <Decodecoding> I just paste what I found on the net...
Jul 08 14:28:57 <Barbon> yea this must be posted on wiki
Jul 08 14:29:05 <Barbon> make an .reg file
Jul 08 14:29:26 <iurgi> feel free ;)
Jul 08 14:29:30 <Decodecoding> It is valid for Vista Home editions wich do not include secpol.msc app
Jul 08 14:29:53 <Barbon> what is that?
Jul 08 14:30:08 <Decodecoding> Policy editor
Jul 08 14:30:20 <Decodecoding> Sysadmins stuff I guess
Jul 08 14:31:01 <Barbon> ah...
Jul 08 14:31:50 <Decodecoding> Barbon. Now try this for me:
Jul 08 14:32:28 <Decodecoding> Try to copy using Samba (Windows shared) to your USB drive a file larger than 14 Mb
Jul 08 14:32:43 <Barbon> mmm ok
Jul 08 14:33:47 <Barbon> no space
Jul 08 14:33:50 <Barbon> o_o
Jul 08 14:33:58 <iurgi> damn
Jul 08 14:34:11 <Barbon> is the same bug?
Jul 08 14:34:36 <Barbon> lol here it write that i have 14 mb space
Jul 08 14:34:40 <Barbon> on my usb
Jul 08 14:34:47 <Barbon> i have 4 gb free xD
Jul 08 14:35:01 <Decodecoding> Imo, it is related to the samba mountpoint
Jul 08 14:35:20 <iurgi> dammit
Jul 08 14:35:45 <Barbon> so is an firmware bug?
Jul 08 14:36:18 <Decodecoding> No, I think it's the way Vista sees samba
Jul 08 14:36:26 <Decodecoding> With linux this doesn't happen
Jul 08 14:37:02 <Barbon> ._.
Jul 08 14:37:25 <Barbon> i try to change pen
Jul 08 14:37:27 <Barbon> sc
Jul 08 14:37:55 <iurgi> Decodecoding: ah
Jul 08 14:37:56 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 14:38:03 <Barbon> usb fonera pen continue to flash
Jul 08 14:38:13 <Barbon> is normal?
Jul 08 14:38:17 <Barbon> im not using it
Jul 08 14:38:28 <Decodecoding> Iurgi, I'll search for the mail I sent about this
Jul 08 14:38:39 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 14:38:40 <iurgi> thanks
Jul 08 14:40:12 <Barbon> if i remove usb pen from fonera when led flashing is dangerous right?
Jul 08 14:40:53 <Barbon> it no-stop flashing
Jul 08 14:40:57 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 14:41:00 <iurgi> well
Jul 08 14:41:06 <iurgi> you have samba mounted or something
Jul 08 14:41:31 <iurgi> disconnect the samba shares, ftp, torrent, everything you have
Jul 08 14:41:46 <iurgi> torrent you can stop it in the torrent page
Jul 08 14:41:58 <iurgi> but there seems to be a bug, when you stop torrent, the disk won't get umounted
Jul 08 14:42:03 <iurgi> I suggest you reboot the fonera
Jul 08 14:42:08 <iurgi> soft reboot
Jul 08 14:42:23 <Barbon> im not downloading nothing
Jul 08 14:42:32 <Barbon> also i have unmounted samba
Jul 08 14:42:55 <iurgi> even if you're not downloading
Jul 08 14:43:02 <Barbon> so i have to reboot
Jul 08 14:43:11 <Barbon> brb
Jul 08 14:43:13 <iurgi> if you started transmission, you will have to reboot if you want to extract the drive
Jul 08 14:43:16 <iurgi> yes, sorry
Jul 08 14:44:48 <Decodecoding> This thread describes the same problem with Vista/samba in FreeNAS : http://sourceforge.net/apps/phpbb/freenas/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=1114
Jul 08 14:46:05 <Barbon> done
Jul 08 14:47:46 <Barbon> so for remove usb you have to reset foner for now
Jul 08 14:47:55 <iurgi> no
Jul 08 14:47:59 <iurgi> only if you start torrents
Jul 08 14:48:14 <Barbon> the software or torrents?
Jul 08 14:48:19 <iurgi> the software
Jul 08 14:48:21 <iurgi> ehr...
Jul 08 14:48:25 <Barbon> ahhh
Jul 08 14:48:27 <iurgi> is this a deja-vu?
Jul 08 14:48:30 <iurgi> haha
Jul 08 14:48:31 <Barbon> i have started it
Jul 08 14:48:40 <iurgi> 14:45 <@iurgi> if you started transmission, you will have to reboot if you want to extract the drive
Jul 08 14:48:49 <Barbon> lol dont have read that
Jul 08 14:48:55 <iurgi> hehe
Jul 08 14:48:56 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 14:49:06 <Barbon> with other application dont have problem?
Jul 08 14:49:15 <Barbon> such megaupload downloader ecc
Jul 08 14:49:16 <iurgi> 2well, you shouldn't
Jul 08 14:49:26 <iurgi> but it's a very 'difficult' issue, can't promise 100%
Jul 08 14:49:39 <iurgi> but it works fine with me
Jul 08 14:51:40 <Barbon> nah is an great steep
Jul 08 14:51:44 <Barbon> ::)
Jul 08 14:55:11 <Barbon> i can use the firefox plugin right?
Jul 08 14:56:15 <iurgi> no
Jul 08 14:59:13 <Barbon> ok work...
Jul 08 14:59:28 <Barbon> but dont support megaupload/rapidshare files :/
Jul 08 14:59:36 <Barbon> the plugin for firefox i mean
Jul 08 14:59:39 <iurgi> no
Jul 08 14:59:41 <iurgi> it doesn't work
Jul 08 14:59:42 <iurgi> :)
Jul 08 14:59:51 <Barbon> k
Jul 08 15:00:02 <Barbon> i try to use transimission now
Jul 08 15:00:04 <Barbon> mmm
Jul 08 15:00:11 <Barbon> how to configure port?
Jul 08 15:00:25 <iurgi> inside transmission
Jul 08 15:01:11 <Barbon> where i have to look? i dont see option or configuration
Jul 08 15:01:25 <Barbon> ok found
Jul 08 15:01:27 <Barbon> in the angle
Jul 08 15:08:20 <Barbon> i put an torrent to downloading
Jul 08 15:08:29 <Barbon> now i have to wait 30 minutes for see progress?
Jul 08 15:09:28 <iurgi> no
Jul 08 15:09:38 <iurgi> if you only add one, you will probably see results soon
Jul 08 15:09:52 <iurgi> but don't get worried until 30min have passed
Jul 08 15:09:54 <iurgi> :P
Jul 08 15:10:00 <iurgi> you're the first one to test this outside fon
Jul 08 15:10:07 <iurgi> let's see how your experience is
Jul 08 15:10:18 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 15:10:20 <Decodecoding> Is torrent using swap now?
Jul 08 15:10:27 <Barbon> dunno
Jul 08 15:10:36 <Barbon> is still al 0
Jul 08 15:11:55 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 15:12:06 <iurgi> Barbon: any peers have been added?
Jul 08 15:12:16 <Barbon> nope all 0
Jul 08 15:12:35 <iurgi> well, I hope you selected a 'good' torrent
Jul 08 15:14:10 <Decodecoding> Is it possible tu use a selected disc for swap (for example an ext3 formatted one) and a Fat32 USB key for content downloading?
Jul 08 15:15:41 <Barbon> i have formated the pen with NFTS
Jul 08 15:15:54 <Decodecoding> grrrrr
Jul 08 15:16:04 <Barbon> ?
Jul 08 15:16:09 <iurgi> Decodecoding: the fonera uses a swap file, not a partition
Jul 08 15:16:13 <Decodecoding> Barbon, you want to make baby Jesus cry
Jul 08 15:16:14 <iurgi> so you don't need to worry
Jul 08 15:16:20 <iurgi> it's transparent for you
Jul 08 15:16:24 <iurgi> Barbon: it won't work
Jul 08 15:16:32 <iurgi> I see you don't read the blogs I write
Jul 08 15:16:42 <Barbon> i have readed that
Jul 08 15:16:45 <Barbon> sec
Jul 08 15:16:55 <iurgi> Also, be aware that it does NOT work with NTFS so… windows users, use FAT32, linux users… you don’t need advice ;)
Jul 08 15:17:35 <Barbon> mmm i dont remember what formation i have used
Jul 08 15:17:42 <Barbon> because in samba i see as NFTS
Jul 08 15:17:43 * iurgi is leaving, will be back online in 1h
Jul 08 15:17:57 <iurgi> ciao
Jul 08 15:19:30 <Barbon> the disk is FAT32
Jul 08 15:19:36 <Barbon> i have formated right
Jul 08 15:19:38 <Barbon> :P
Jul 08 15:19:49 <Decodecoding> ok
Jul 08 15:19:58 <Barbon> in samba i see it as NFTS
Jul 08 15:20:14 <Barbon> curios...
Jul 08 15:27:01 <Barbon> torrent was tested? or i am the first?
Jul 08 15:27:03 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 15:41:22 <Barbon> is downloading nothing
Jul 08 16:02:57 <Barbon> still nothing
Jul 08 16:07:07 <burton-ng> ho am i supposed to updgrade fonera 2 to is final release? my fonera is rebooting an does nothing... not charging firmware
Jul 08 16:07:27 <Decodecoding> Use redboot method
Jul 08 16:07:49 <burton-ng> lol
Jul 08 16:07:56 <burton-ng> my fonera dones't have redboot
Jul 08 16:08:03 <pablo_bz> ?
Jul 08 16:08:15 <pablo_bz> that's like saying you do not have belly button
Jul 08 16:08:21 <Decodecoding> shit
Jul 08 16:08:36 <Decodecoding> it's closed, isn't it?
Jul 08 16:09:11 <burton-ng> ? well i have never been able to connect to my fonera using redboot.anyway what am i doing wrong?
Jul 08 16:09:12 <Barbon> you have to update again
Jul 08 16:09:18 <Barbon> charge the file again
Jul 08 16:09:22 <Barbon> is happened to me too
Jul 08 16:09:25 <burton-ng> 2 times now
Jul 08 16:09:29 <pablo_bz> change your serial adapter
Jul 08 16:13:37 <Barbon> it have worked
Jul 08 16:13:39 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 16:14:03 <Barbon> iurgi y here?
Jul 08 16:16:53 <pablo_bz> an hour has not passed
Jul 08 16:19:37 <Barbon> woot 1 peer!
Jul 08 16:19:43 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 16:20:13 <Barbon> Peers
Jul 08 16:20:15 <Barbon> UL To:
Jul 08 16:20:16 <Barbon> 0
Jul 08 16:20:18 <Barbon> DL From:
Jul 08 16:20:20 <Barbon> 1
Jul 08 16:20:22 <Barbon> Total Seeders:
Jul 08 16:20:23 <Barbon> 23
Jul 08 16:20:25 <Barbon> Total Leechers:
Jul 08 16:20:26 <Barbon> 11
Jul 08 16:20:41 <pablo_bz> get a better torrent
Jul 08 16:21:13 <Decodecoding> guys, you better start testing with Ubuntu ISOS
Jul 08 16:21:33 <Decodecoding> they've many of seeders
Jul 08 16:21:54 <Decodecoding> It's a good way to benchmark
Jul 08 16:22:35 <Barbon> so is good or suck? XD
Jul 08 16:27:19 <Barbon> woot 9 peer
Jul 08 16:27:45 <Barbon> 56 kb
Jul 08 16:27:51 <Barbon> not bad
Jul 08 16:28:09 <Decodecoding> My teeth are growing
Jul 08 16:29:13 <Barbon> y are an alien?
Jul 08 16:29:18 <Barbon> o.o
Jul 08 16:29:31 <Decodecoding> :-[
Jul 08 16:29:42 <pablo_bz> emnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
Jul 08 16:30:08 <Decodecoding> It was a bat emoticon
Jul 08 16:47:24 * iurgi is here, yes
Jul 08 16:49:01 <iurgi> Barbon: ok, so it' sworking now
Jul 08 16:49:03 <iurgi> good
Jul 08 16:49:18 <iurgi> it's limitted to 200KB/s by default, but if I were you I would remove the limit
Jul 08 16:49:27 <iurgi> I think it's not working fine and limmits to a lower speed
Jul 08 16:54:00 <Barbon> ok
Jul 08 16:55:43 <Barbon> if i shut the fonera
Jul 08 16:55:45 <Barbon> now
Jul 08 16:55:49 <Barbon> i can resume torrent later?
Jul 08 16:57:24 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 17:05:20 <Barbon> nice
Jul 08 17:05:29 <Barbon> it must do also to download feature
Jul 08 17:05:38 <Barbon> such megaupload files
Jul 08 17:05:48 <iurgi> download already does this since the beggining
Jul 08 17:06:50 <Barbon> y
Jul 08 17:15:29 <iurgi> Barbon: so?
Jul 08 17:15:36 <iurgi> how is torrent doing?
Jul 08 17:17:19 <pablo_bz> 3arbon
Jul 08 17:20:56 <Barbon> good
Jul 08 17:21:02 <Barbon> wait i look
Jul 08 17:21:05 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 17:21:43 <Barbon> 14kb down
Jul 08 17:22:03 <iurgi> hmmm
Jul 08 17:22:08 <Barbon> 29
Jul 08 17:22:11 <iurgi> that torrent is a crapp
Jul 08 17:22:19 <pablo_bz> change the 9600 baud modem for something newer
Jul 08 17:22:25 <iurgi> lol
Jul 08 17:22:34 <Barbon> 39 now
Jul 08 17:23:13 <iurgi> well, it should go up to 250-300KB/s
Jul 08 17:23:26 <iurgi> so either that torrent is a crap, or there's something wrong there
Jul 08 17:23:31 <iurgi> it works much faster for me
Jul 08 17:23:43 <Barbon> i have a bad connection
Jul 08 17:23:49 <Barbon> tele2 suck
Jul 08 17:23:51 <Barbon> XD
Jul 08 17:24:00 <iurgi> hehe
Jul 08 17:24:07 <Barbon> i have to pass to vodafone
Jul 08 17:24:13 <iurgi> ok, it's good to see that the first user is not experiencing much troubl
Jul 08 17:24:14 <iurgi> e
Jul 08 17:24:18 <pablo_bz> dolownad this
Jul 08 17:24:20 <pablo_bz> http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4970747/Knowing%5B2009%5DDvDrip%5BEng%5D-FXG
Jul 08 17:24:43 <iurgi> pablo, that one is broken
Jul 08 17:24:52 <iurgi> give him another file
Jul 08 17:25:07 <pablo_bz> bricken?
Jul 08 17:25:09 <pablo_bz> why
Jul 08 17:25:26 <iurgi> i tested it
Jul 08 17:26:10 <pablo_bz> then try this one http://torrents.thepiratebay.org/4975755/MICHAEL_JACKSON_GREATEST_HITS_%5BR.I.P.%5D_%5BBubanee%5D.4975755.TPB.torrent
Jul 08 17:26:15 <iurgi> good one
Jul 08 17:26:23 <Barbon> ok
Jul 08 17:26:23 <iurgi> also tested it
Jul 08 17:26:23 <iurgi> XD
Jul 08 17:26:57 <Barbon> iurgi you have tried to make the moonwalker dance?
Jul 08 17:26:58 <pablo_bz> Don't blame it on sunshine
Jul 08 17:26:58 <pablo_bz> Don't blame it on moonlight
Jul 08 17:26:58 <pablo_bz> Don't blame it on good times
Jul 08 17:26:58 <pablo_bz> Blame it on the boogie
Jul 08 17:27:27 <Barbon> look here
Jul 08 17:27:29 <Barbon> http://www.eternalmoonwalk.com/
Jul 08 17:27:30 <Barbon> XD
Jul 08 17:27:57 <pablo_bz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW1iq4IO2k
Jul 08 17:28:43 <Barbon> OMG
Jul 08 17:28:45 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 17:29:10 <Barbon> speed 36-40
Jul 08 17:29:50 <iurgi> give it some time
Jul 08 17:30:39 <Barbon> 72
Jul 08 17:30:47 <Barbon> 38
Jul 08 17:30:56 <Barbon> 55
Jul 08 17:31:19 <iurgi> it will come up
Jul 08 17:31:19 <iurgi> oh
Jul 08 17:31:29 <iurgi> btw, did you set the download speed to unlimited?
Jul 08 17:32:36 <Barbon> nope
Jul 08 17:32:38 <Barbon> 200k still
Jul 08 17:32:43 <Barbon> i change?
Jul 08 17:32:54 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 17:34:36 <Barbon> 281
Jul 08 17:34:38 <Barbon> OMG
Jul 08 17:34:50 <Barbon> 281 and the other torrent 80
Jul 08 17:34:55 <Barbon> now 83
Jul 08 17:34:58 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 17:35:04 <Barbon> 150
Jul 08 17:35:09 <iurgi> good
Jul 08 17:35:14 <iurgi> it's variable but high
Jul 08 17:35:20 <iurgi> and quite stable
Jul 08 17:35:22 <Barbon> ye
Jul 08 17:35:26 <iurgi> enjoy
Jul 08 17:35:29 <iurgi> :)
Jul 08 17:35:59 <Barbon> 430
Jul 08 17:36:01 <Barbon> now
Jul 08 17:36:03 <Barbon> o_o
Jul 08 17:36:06 <Barbon> good good
Jul 08 17:36:29 <iurgi> it might get a bit slow (the web interface) at these speeds
Jul 08 17:36:30 <pablo_bz> Barbon, keep yoru 9600 baud modem, it performs very well
Jul 08 17:36:56 <iurgi> hehe
Jul 08 17:36:57 <pablo_bz> the web can get inresaponsive, but when you see it again, you will see the file downloaded :)
Jul 08 17:37:04 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 17:37:10 <iurgi> its very stable
Jul 08 17:38:48 <iurgi> ok I'm leaving
Jul 08 17:42:32 <Barbon> cya
Jul 08 17:42:45 <Barbon> is stable and good interface
Jul 08 18:00:55 <burton-ng> congratulations for the new firmware
Jul 08 18:03:27 <burton-ng> has anybody tested webcam through wan?
Jul 08 18:04:18 <Barbon> i have 2 old cams
Jul 08 18:04:26 <Barbon> that dont work with fonera :(
Jul 08 18:04:40 <Barbon> eyetoy - sony and philps cam
Jul 08 18:08:17 <burton-ng> well, i have a compatible device which works on my LAN
Jul 08 18:08:24 <burton-ng> but i can't access it from internet
Jul 08 18:11:31 <blogic> burton-ng: nope
Jul 08 18:11:37 <blogic> burton-ng: it will be fixed early next week
Jul 08 18:11:50 <blogic> we will see what bug reports we get and release an update
Jul 08 18:11:59 <blogic> we have pretty much writeen all the cod enow :)
Jul 08 18:12:05 <blogic> so it is clean up time
Jul 08 18:19:24 <burton-ng> that would be great (can wan access)
Jul 08 18:19:58 <blogic> yes
Jul 08 18:21:57 <Barbon> blogic so torrent will be definitive?
Jul 08 18:22:37 <burton-ng> has anybody checked firefox plugin..? mine dones't seem to work
Jul 08 18:23:05 <blogic> burton-ng: update on monday for the ff plugin
Jul 08 18:41:36 <burton-ng> cool tx
Jul 08 19:26:34 <Barbon> olà
Jul 08 19:28:43 <Barbon> torrent resume dont work
Jul 08 19:28:45 <Barbon> ...
Jul 08 19:34:19 <Barbon> anyone here?
Jul 08 19:38:23 <Barbon> Iurgi or blogic here?
Jul 08 19:46:12 <Barbon> i report this bug
Jul 08 19:46:22 <Barbon> if fonera will be shutdown
Jul 08 19:46:28 <Barbon> y need to redownload the torrent
Jul 08 19:46:33 <Barbon> and do verification
Jul 08 21:01:38 <Danicasti> Barbon!!
Jul 08 21:04:15 <Barbon> hey
Jul 08 21:04:20 <Barbon> è uscito il firm nuovo
Jul 08 21:04:22 <Barbon> è una bomba
Jul 08 21:06:37 <iurgi> Barbon: :) grazie
Jul 08 21:07:05 <iurgi> Barbon: what do you mean you need to "re-download" the torrent?
Jul 08 21:08:43 <iurgi> Danicasti: have you flashed the new image yet?
Jul 08 21:09:16 <Danicasti> iurgi: yes...
Jul 08 21:09:21 <iurgi> anyone alse has tested the new firmware?
Jul 08 21:09:22 <Danicasti> But i have a big problem...
Jul 08 21:09:23 <iurgi> Danicasti: and?
Jul 08 21:09:26 <iurgi> oh
Jul 08 21:09:27 <iurgi> what?
Jul 08 21:09:28 <Barbon> iurgi i mean that i have to re-put the .torrent file
Jul 08 21:09:31 <Barbon> for go it
Jul 08 21:09:42 <iurgi> Barbon: no , you shouldnt ahve to
Jul 08 21:09:45 <iurgi> dd you waut 30min?
Jul 08 21:09:52 <Barbon> for start?
Jul 08 21:09:58 <Danicasti> i have a wifi connection for internet
Jul 08 21:09:59 <iurgi> no, when you reboot
Jul 08 21:10:04 <iurgi> Danicasti: I see
Jul 08 21:10:06 <Barbon> nope i dont have wait xD
Jul 08 21:10:11 <iurgi> I will send you an image tomorrow
Jul 08 21:10:12 <Barbon> but is finisced
Jul 08 21:10:24 <Danicasti> ok...
Jul 08 21:10:27 <iurgi> ah, it was finished? then why do you need to remsume it?
Jul 08 21:10:41 <Barbon> i finisced now
Jul 08 21:10:45 <iurgi> Danicasti: Danicasti how did yoiu flash?
Jul 08 21:10:47 <iurgi> Barbon: ok
Jul 08 21:10:54 <Barbon> it work nice
Jul 08 21:11:02 <iurgi> Barbon: good :)
Jul 08 21:11:07 <Barbon> but resume function need to be checked
Jul 08 21:11:09 <iurgi> Danicasti: did you use web interface?
Jul 08 21:11:13 <Danicasti> iurgi: i flashed
Jul 08 21:11:18 <Danicasti> and
Jul 08 21:11:20 <iurgi> Barbon: resume worked fo rme, but we will test it
Jul 08 21:11:42 <Barbon> when i resumed it it say local files dont available
Jul 08 21:11:42 <Danicasti> for connect f2 wit wifi
Jul 08 21:11:55 <Barbon> so i have deleted the torrent and reput again
Jul 08 21:12:01 <Danicasti> is only in developer mode...
Jul 08 21:12:05 <iurgi> Danicasti: if you had developer mode and flashed with webimage, it should still be developer
Jul 08 21:12:29 <Danicasti> i have flashed with ssh :(
Jul 08 21:12:30 <iurgi> Barbon: hmmm I think you should have waited longer before stopping and readding
Jul 08 21:12:34 <iurgi> Danicasti: ohhhhhhhh
Jul 08 21:12:37 <iurgi> that explains it
Jul 08 21:12:54 <iurgi> the blog post said: "the configuration will be saved but only in web reflash mode"
Jul 08 21:12:58 <iurgi> sorry :(
Jul 08 21:13:05 <iurgi> I will send you a developer image tomorrow
Jul 08 21:13:12 <iurgi> remember to ask me to send it
Jul 08 21:13:16 <Danicasti> :(
Jul 08 21:13:18 <iurgi> plesase
Jul 08 21:13:25 <iurgi> I don't have it at home :(
Jul 08 21:13:49 <Danicasti> iurgi:ok thanks! Tomorrow i remember it!
Jul 08 21:13:54 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 21:14:03 <Danicasti> ;)
Jul 08 21:14:22 <iurgi> sorry, one more day :P
Jul 08 21:14:23 <iurgi> hmmm
Jul 08 21:14:41 <Danicasti> patience...
Jul 08 21:14:59 <iurgi> yeah
Jul 08 21:15:09 <iurgi> if you're a techie... you could handle it...
Jul 08 21:15:18 <iurgi> connect to the wifi signal with your PC
Jul 08 21:15:27 <iurgi> and give internet to the fonera connected to your pc
Jul 08 21:15:29 <iurgi> :P
Jul 08 21:15:46 <iurgi> and then switch the fonera to developer mode
Jul 08 21:16:00 <Danicasti> I saw not the time to try the new RC4 ...
Jul 08 21:16:10 <iurgi> hehehe, sorry
Jul 08 21:16:13 <iurgi> maybe you can try that...
Jul 08 21:16:21 <Danicasti> i've tried.... don't work...
Jul 08 21:16:28 <iurgi> oh
Jul 08 21:16:28 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 21:18:14 <Danicasti> :(
Jul 08 21:18:43 <Danicasti> Barbon: Quindi questo fw va bene???
Jul 08 21:19:49 <iurgi> va piu bene
Jul 08 21:19:55 <iurgi> molto bene
Jul 08 21:19:58 <iurgi> haha
Jul 08 21:20:03 <Barbon> wtf?
Jul 08 21:20:10 <iurgi> what?
Jul 08 21:20:14 <iurgi> the firmware failed?!?!?
Jul 08 21:20:15 <Barbon> [ERROR]	Connection to irc://freenode/ (irc://irc.freenode.net/) reset.
Jul 08 21:20:19 <iurgi> ah
Jul 08 21:20:25 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 21:20:31 <iurgi> your application, probably
Jul 08 21:20:37 <Barbon> nope
Jul 08 21:20:39 <Barbon> mirc
Jul 08 21:20:41 <Barbon> crashed
Jul 08 21:20:43 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 21:20:48 <Barbon> internet is ok
Jul 08 21:20:55 <iurgi> 21:20 < Danicasti> Barbon: Quindi questo fw va bene???
Jul 08 21:21:03 <iurgi> yeah, your applicatino
Jul 08 21:21:07 <iurgi> you use mirc?!?!?!
Jul 08 21:21:08 <iurgi> lol
Jul 08 21:21:10 <Barbon> nope
Jul 08 21:21:17 <Barbon> mirc for firefox
Jul 08 21:21:18 <iurgi> I started using it in 1995 of 1996
Jul 08 21:21:21 <iurgi> ah
Jul 08 21:21:29 <Barbon> i have used mirc time ago
Jul 08 21:21:31 <Barbon> for scam
Jul 08 21:21:33 <Barbon> and spam
Jul 08 21:21:34 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 21:21:42 <Barbon> and lamers thing
Jul 08 21:21:43 <iurgi> I use iirc now
Jul 08 21:21:49 <iurgi> when I was young
Jul 08 21:21:51 <Barbon> such i have send an file to a guy
Jul 08 21:21:57 <Barbon> and control his pc
Jul 08 21:21:58 <iurgi> and was connected to the internet for the first times
Jul 08 21:22:01 <iurgi> 1996 or so
Jul 08 21:22:05 <Barbon> i have opened infinite calc xD
Jul 08 21:22:07 <Barbon> mmm
Jul 08 21:22:15 <iurgi> I used mirc, then ircap, then subseven etc etc
Jul 08 21:22:16 <Barbon> i started 4 years later i think xD
Jul 08 21:22:32 <iurgi> I was the first guy with internet in my school
Jul 08 21:22:33 <iurgi> lol
Jul 08 21:22:39 <Barbon> wow
Jul 08 21:22:48 <Barbon> epic
Jul 08 21:22:53 <iurgi> yeah
Jul 08 21:22:54 <iurgi> hehe
Jul 08 21:23:01 <iurgi> I was a 'lammer' then
Jul 08 21:23:03 <Danicasti> wow!
Jul 08 21:23:16 <Barbon> iurgi i have an idea for an plugin, for safe energy
Jul 08 21:23:20 <iurgi> using subseven you could connect to backholes on peoples pcs
Jul 08 21:23:27 <Barbon> it shutdown wireless for certain hours
Jul 08 21:23:33 <iurgi> treewas a list of thousands of infecetd PCs/IPs
Jul 08 21:23:37 <Barbon> woot
Jul 08 21:23:38 <iurgi> and you could connect to them
Jul 08 21:23:46 <iurgi> and change everything from their windows settings
Jul 08 21:23:49 <Barbon> you used the milenium bug?
Jul 08 21:23:50 <Barbon> XD
Jul 08 21:23:53 <iurgi> colors, position etc etc etc
Jul 08 21:23:57 <iurgi> it was so funny
Jul 08 21:23:58 <iurgi> no
Jul 08 21:24:02 <iurgi> millenium didn't exist
Jul 08 21:24:08 <iurgi> win3.11 and win95
Jul 08 21:24:10 <iurgi> hahaha
Jul 08 21:24:13 <Barbon> yea in old macchine
Jul 08 21:24:14 <iurgi> that was cool times
Jul 08 21:24:15 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 21:24:22 <iurgi> when I was an 'expert' with 14 years
Jul 08 21:24:25 <iurgi> then I got bored
Jul 08 21:24:27 <iurgi> hahaha
Jul 08 21:24:40 <Barbon> maybe you can take the place of bill gates...
Jul 08 21:24:45 <iurgi> hahahaha
Jul 08 21:24:46 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 21:24:48 <iurgi> no way
Jul 08 21:25:00 * iurgi hates microsoft
Jul 08 21:25:14 <Barbon> american pressident then?
Jul 08 21:25:15 <iurgi> I stopped using windows in 2000
Jul 08 21:25:15 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 21:25:27 <iurgi> started using linux in 1996/1997
Jul 08 21:25:44 * iurgi loves linux as much as I love women
Jul 08 21:25:45 <Barbon> i tryed to emigrate to linux but i have a lot a compatibly problems
Jul 08 21:25:45 <iurgi> almost
Jul 08 21:25:47 <iurgi> hahaha
Jul 08 21:25:52 <iurgi> Barbon: with what?
Jul 08 21:25:53 <Danicasti> iurgi: You have vista? :) :P
Jul 08 21:26:02 <Barbon> ye
Jul 08 21:26:04 <iurgi> the only incompatible thing I ever found is adobe and autocad
Jul 08 21:26:15 <Barbon> iurgi such shopfactory
Jul 08 21:26:19 <iurgi> Danicasti: yeah... vista means "sight" in spanish
Jul 08 21:26:24 <Barbon> and some videogames
Jul 08 21:26:31 <iurgi> videogames ok
Jul 08 21:26:34 <iurgi> I use wii
Jul 08 21:26:34 <Danicasti> :)
Jul 08 21:26:36 <iurgi> for gaming
Jul 08 21:26:36 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 21:26:40 <Barbon> y too????
Jul 08 21:26:44 <iurgi> of coure
Jul 08 21:26:45 <Barbon> hacked wii?
Jul 08 21:26:47 * iurgi lovesw nintendo
Jul 08 21:26:51 <iurgi> sure I did
Jul 08 21:26:55 <iurgi> I have hdd loader
Jul 08 21:26:57 <Barbon> i have hacked id via zelda
Jul 08 21:26:58 <iurgi> it ROCKS
Jul 08 21:27:02 <iurgi> me too
Jul 08 21:27:08 <Barbon> is really good
Jul 08 21:27:13 <iurgi> I hacked with the chip first
Jul 08 21:27:18 <iurgi> in 2006 when it was out
Jul 08 21:27:24 <Barbon> wow
Jul 08 21:27:26 <iurgi> a few weeks after
Jul 08 21:27:32 <iurgi> and then used the zelda hack
Jul 08 21:27:36 <iurgi> it's so nice
Jul 08 21:27:43 <Barbon> i have payed zelda
Jul 08 21:27:45 <Barbon> 20 euros
Jul 08 21:27:47 <Barbon> :P
Jul 08 21:27:50 <iurgi> 20?
Jul 08 21:27:53 <Barbon> ye
Jul 08 21:27:54 <iurgi> it was my furst game
Jul 08 21:27:56 <Barbon> from england
Jul 08 21:27:58 <iurgi> I payed full price
Jul 08 21:28:03 <Barbon> in italy cost 60 euros
Jul 08 21:28:08 <iurgi> that's the main reason for me to be a nintendo lover
Jul 08 21:28:09 <iurgi> zelda
Jul 08 21:28:23 <iurgi> I've played it since Zelda 1 for nintento entertainment system
Jul 08 21:28:26 <Barbon> zelda is epic
Jul 08 21:28:28 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 21:28:31 <iurgi> Zelda: a link to the past
Jul 08 21:28:33 <Danicasti> RAGAZZI: bUONANOTTE A DOMANI!!!!
Jul 08 21:28:34 <iurgi> haha
Jul 08 21:28:35 <Barbon> you know sega genesis?
Jul 08 21:28:38 <iurgi> a domani
Jul 08 21:28:38 <Barbon> notte dani xD
Jul 08 21:28:51 <Danicasti> :)
Jul 08 21:28:54 <Barbon> iurgi y know sega mega drive genesis
Jul 08 21:28:56 <Barbon> ?
Jul 08 21:29:00 <iurgi> yes
Jul 08 21:29:02 <Barbon> it was my first console
Jul 08 21:29:05 <iurgi> hah
Jul 08 21:29:06 <iurgi> a
Jul 08 21:29:12 <Barbon> with Sonic
Jul 08 21:29:12 <iurgi> nitnedo's rivals
Jul 08 21:29:13 <iurgi> :)
Jul 08 21:29:15 <iurgi> yeah
Jul 08 21:29:17 <iurgi> and alex kid
Jul 08 21:29:21 <iurgi> and altered beast
Jul 08 21:29:21 <Barbon> i have it
Jul 08 21:29:24 <Barbon> xD
Jul 08 21:29:24 <iurgi> nice games
Jul 08 21:29:25 <Barbon> also that
Jul 08 21:29:28 <iurgi> hehe
Jul 08 21:29:36 <iurgi> I loved altered beast
Jul 08 21:29:37 <Barbon> i have also MJ moonwalker
Jul 08 21:29:39 <Barbon> original
Jul 08 21:29:45 <iurgi> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Jul 08 21:29:47 <iurgi> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Jul 08 21:29:48 <iurgi> ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Jul 08 21:29:52 <Barbon> money!
Jul 08 21:29:54 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 21:29:55 <iurgi> THAT WAS A GOOOOOD GAME
Jul 08 21:29:58 <iurgi> I loved it
Jul 08 21:30:01 <Barbon> yea
Jul 08 21:30:08 <iurgi> played it a lot in the arcade machines
Jul 08 21:30:10 <iurgi> dude
Jul 08 21:30:11 <Barbon> what he say, when you finish the level?
Jul 08 21:30:13 <Barbon> YOO?
Jul 08 21:30:15 <iurgi> I0m gonna emulate it
Jul 08 21:30:15 <Barbon> XD
Jul 08 21:30:16 <iurgi> haha
Jul 08 21:30:25 <Barbon> same
Jul 08 21:30:28 <Barbon> i have also psp hacked
Jul 08 21:30:31 * iurgi looks for emulators
Jul 08 21:30:35 <iurgi> you can hack the psp?
Jul 08 21:30:36 <iurgi> nice
Jul 08 21:30:37 <Barbon> with mega drive  emulator
Jul 08 21:30:41 <iurgi> I have NDS hacked
Jul 08 21:30:42 <Barbon> psp fat
Jul 08 21:30:46 <iurgi> and gamecube hacked
Jul 08 21:30:49 <Barbon> wow xD
Jul 08 21:30:51 <iurgi> hehe
Jul 08 21:30:55 <Barbon> gamecube is not necesary
Jul 08 21:30:58 <Barbon> if you have wii hacked
Jul 08 21:31:08 <Barbon> you can play gamecube games on wii
Jul 08 21:31:21 <iurgi> yeah, but I had gamecube before
Jul 08 21:31:23 <iurgi> :)
Jul 08 21:31:28 <Barbon> ahh...
Jul 08 21:31:35 <iurgi> and now I can play gamecube hacked games in my hacked wii
Jul 08 21:31:36 <iurgi> :)
Jul 08 21:31:38 <iurgi> ok
Jul 08 21:31:42 * iurgi is going to bed too
Jul 08 21:31:43 <Barbon> ok all clear lol
Jul 08 21:31:45 <Barbon> ok
Jul 08 21:31:51 <Barbon> good night iurgi :)
Jul 08 21:31:52 <iurgi> enjoy the firmware and test it
Jul 08 21:32:00 <iurgi> now that it's almost stable
Jul 08 21:32:03 * Barbon wave with a white paper
Jul 08 21:32:07 <Barbon> lol
Jul 08 21:32:10 <Barbon> sure
Jul 08 21:32:15 <iurgi> when it is stable we will start oding wishlist things
Jul 08 21:32:27 <Barbon> torrent was great
Jul 08 21:32:30 <iurgi> bridge, plugnis, audio etc
Jul 08 21:32:35 <iurgi> yeah I'0m so happy
Jul 08 21:32:38 <iurgi> ok then
Jul 08 21:32:39 <iurgi> night
Jul 08 21:32:42 <iurgi> thanks for the feedback
Jul 08 21:32:43 <Barbon> goodnight
Jul 08 21:32:47 <iurgi> buonanotte
Jul 08 21:32:50 <Barbon> notte
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