**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 22 02:59:56 2009 Jul 22 06:31:56 Buongiorno! Jul 22 08:19:40 ciao Danicasti Jul 22 08:25:12 hi Decodecoding Jul 22 08:25:18 * iurgi is back! Jul 22 08:25:33 Hi iurgi. How was your tryp to the States? Jul 22 08:26:06 good Jul 22 08:26:08 very good Jul 22 08:26:09 thanks Jul 22 08:29:42 muahhaha Jul 22 08:29:47 openvpn is ready Jul 22 08:30:01 well, some of the networking stuff needs to be added, but the basics are ther :) Jul 22 08:37:06 hi all :) Jul 22 08:38:04 lo Jul 22 08:41:47 iurgi: that gary guy just sent a mail Jul 22 08:41:58 however, i am out of washing powder Jul 22 08:42:07 and i would need to go to the shop before i start hacking Jul 22 08:42:17 i assume we can keep them waiting a little longer ? Jul 22 08:42:26 ha ha, your life 1.0 Jul 22 08:42:56 hmmm Jul 22 08:43:00 john-classic Jul 22 08:43:01 :D Jul 22 08:43:34 Today is very hot.... Jul 22 08:43:40 :( Jul 22 08:43:50 terrible here... Jul 22 08:44:46 tomorrow will be worse ;( Jul 22 08:52:35 blogic: yes Jul 22 08:52:44 but not much longer, please Jul 22 08:52:44 ok Jul 22 08:52:48 lol Jul 22 08:53:10 like, let's have it before it's too late fo rthem to test it today Jul 22 08:53:12 why is everyone always pressuring me ? Jul 22 08:53:13 if possible Jul 22 08:53:18 hehe Jul 22 08:53:21 i am the only one that works fast and on time Jul 22 08:53:30 :) Jul 22 08:53:37 yeah, in all the world Jul 22 08:53:39 :) Jul 22 08:53:45 no Jul 22 08:53:47 in the fwteam Jul 22 08:53:49 :) Jul 22 08:53:56 that was nasty :) Jul 22 09:41:06 iam free! i finished all final examinations :D Jul 22 09:53:15 good! Jul 22 09:56:29 congrats Jul 22 10:07:35 thanks :) Jul 22 11:11:52 hi everyone Jul 22 11:13:27 hi Jul 22 11:14:21 hi Comet Jul 22 11:15:43 anyone knows if the fonera 2.0n is already in stores? Jul 22 11:15:47 not yet Jul 22 11:15:55 europe sept 15th and US Oct 15th Jul 22 11:23:16 thanks for the info Jul 22 11:23:47 does anyone uses the fonera 2.0 as a remote drive ? Jul 22 11:24:19 Comet: depending on fs/hdd/usb/protocol, you get up to 8MB/s Jul 22 11:24:19 i mean to access an usb external drive from the internet Jul 22 11:24:31 yes Jul 22 11:24:37 yes Jul 22 11:24:41 ftp Jul 22 11:24:42 we will have openvpn by 15sept aswell Jul 22 11:25:33 openvpn will be featured in 2.0g too or just 2.0n? Jul 22 11:28:53 i'm planning on watching movies and music remotely from an usb drive connected to the fonera. 6MB/s should probably do fine for most files... Jul 22 11:29:03 i don't mean streaming Jul 22 11:29:18 just watching as the file on the remote drive gets downloaded Jul 22 11:29:23 is this possible? Jul 22 11:29:46 sure. I do that now ;-) Jul 22 11:30:02 great.. just perfect Jul 22 11:30:07 wait Jul 22 11:30:26 You mean monitoring the progress of your download? Jul 22 11:31:16 no i mean this.. i access the remote drive and download a file from the usb drive to my computer Jul 22 11:31:41 as lonmg as you use a media player that can download by itself, like vlc it should be no problem Jul 22 11:31:54 yeah thats my intention Jul 22 11:32:01 OK. I got it Jul 22 11:32:04 using a player that can play media files as they are downloaded Jul 22 11:32:54 i'm working out of country and my fonera connection has a 6mbps upload Jul 22 11:33:05 and where i'm working i got a 3mbps connection Jul 22 11:33:41 wow, that's fast for the upload rate... I wish I had 1/4 of that... Jul 22 11:34:54 yeah thats why i'm planning to use it this way..my remote computer is the media hub Jul 22 11:35:13 and this way i won't need to bring the usb drive with me Jul 22 11:36:14 Comet: ok Jul 22 11:36:16 is a usb drive formated in NTFS able to upload at say 1.5 mbps? Jul 22 11:36:22 Comet: we will also be adding dlna soonish Jul 22 11:36:28 urgs Jul 22 11:36:31 ntfs is bad Jul 22 11:36:33 :) Jul 22 11:36:40 ntfs is the only bad fs Jul 22 11:36:41 yeah i know...NTFS is heavy Jul 22 11:36:51 it is the slowest, because there are no real drivers Jul 22 11:37:04 however, 1.5mbps is eaisly doable Jul 22 11:37:18 the fon20 does around 10mbps Jul 22 11:37:25 then fon20n does much more Jul 22 11:37:36 with my shitty flash pendrive i get 32mbps Jul 22 11:37:48 with my mega cool hdd i get 7,8MB/s Jul 22 11:37:59 very nice Jul 22 11:38:05 the fon20n can handle wan speeds of up to 80mbit Jul 22 11:38:19 also depending on the connex type etc Jul 22 11:38:22 I would be nice fonera could run a Shoutcast server, streaming to its local clients and the internet. I don't remember how heavy or light shoutcast was... Jul 22 11:38:35 Decodecoding: shoutcast client will be in 2.2.6.0 Jul 22 11:38:39 server will come later Jul 22 11:38:43 so..say downloading with the fonera from megaupload with a 100mbps connection to the usb drive i should get about what speed? Jul 22 11:38:59 depends Jul 22 11:39:00 :) Jul 22 11:39:28 fast hard drive Jul 22 11:39:36 but ideally if all goes well ~50mbit/s on disc Jul 22 11:39:38 1TB Jul 22 11:39:44 great Jul 22 11:39:47 maybe even more Jul 22 11:39:55 int he end, it is usb Jul 22 11:39:58 not sata Jul 22 11:40:03 yeah Jul 22 11:40:06 but for usb2.0 it does really really well Jul 22 11:40:29 and the best part is, i am here to fix any bugs you might have Jul 22 11:40:30 :) Jul 22 11:40:55 hehe Jul 22 11:41:15 the thing is right now that is quite enough Jul 22 11:41:24 Blogic, I mean the server, fonera serving its mp3 stored files streaming them to the world :-d Jul 22 11:41:31 Decodecoding: yes Jul 22 11:41:31 megaupload can really provide downloads higher than 50mbps anyway Jul 22 11:41:37 i am already planning so Jul 22 11:41:47 Comet: ok Jul 22 11:41:49 *can't Jul 22 11:42:04 dlna support will be great Jul 22 11:42:27 so basically from what i can tell you guys are planning on having media server built in to the fonera? Jul 22 11:42:27 i have dlna running in a test already Jul 22 11:42:42 i need to find the time now to test it and make a gui Jul 22 11:44:04 that will be great.. precisely the feature i'm looking for. Jul 22 11:44:22 think it will work with current fonera 2.0 hardware? Jul 22 11:45:02 hmm Jul 22 11:45:08 no idea Jul 22 11:45:17 i only tested it on 20n Jul 22 11:45:19 not 20 Jul 22 11:45:21 sorry Jul 22 11:45:38 but they both share the same firmware code? Jul 22 11:45:39 i'm planning on moving to the 2.0n anyway Jul 22 11:46:14 on the 2.0n you were succefull turning it into a media server? Jul 22 11:48:05 g Jul 22 11:49:19 on the 2.0n we can do dlna yes Jul 22 11:49:28 on the fon20 i have not tried Jul 22 11:50:58 blogic think the fonera 2.0n can handle some transcoding Jul 22 11:50:59 ? Jul 22 12:01:28 connection dropped Jul 22 12:02:38 ive asked you way to many questions blogic...thanks for your attention... Jul 22 12:03:01 many people are very excited with what you guys are doing in there ..best of sucess Jul 22 12:10:37 any of you are from the spanish team? Jul 22 12:10:47 yes Jul 22 12:10:54 hola Jul 22 12:10:57 hola :) Jul 22 12:11:11 i'm currently workin in Madrid... Jul 22 12:11:19 ah, nice Jul 22 12:11:23 outsourcing in Repsol Jul 22 12:11:23 what do you do? Jul 22 12:11:26 ok Jul 22 12:11:30 software developer Jul 22 12:11:44 interesting Jul 22 12:11:47 the usual .NET stuff Jul 22 12:12:01 argh Jul 22 12:12:05 sorry aobut you Jul 22 12:12:05 :) Jul 22 12:12:08 Currently working with integration services...such as Biztalk Jul 22 12:12:09 hehe Jul 22 12:13:46 and let me guess..you guys are mainly into linux development right? Jul 22 12:13:52 open source stuff Jul 22 12:13:55 yup Jul 22 12:23:12 by the way i'm loving working here in Repsol Jul 22 12:23:23 we got "jornadas diretas" in the summer Jul 22 12:23:33 so i'll be leaving work at 3 pm Jul 22 12:23:36 :P Jul 22 12:23:41 jornadas directas? Jul 22 12:23:41 lol Jul 22 12:23:47 si Jul 22 12:23:51 they usually call it "jornadas intensivas" Jul 22 12:23:54 jsi Jul 22 12:23:59 at least in all the rest of the companies Jul 22 12:24:00 hehe Jul 22 12:24:01 jornadas de veerano Jul 22 12:24:05 yeah Jul 22 12:24:05 si Jul 22 12:24:07 :) Jul 22 12:24:13 and it's sunny Jul 22 12:26:34 yeah..nice weather indeed..but we had a cold winter.. snow in madrid Jul 22 12:26:36 that was something Jul 22 12:26:41 quite rare right? Jul 22 12:27:02 i've been living here for almost one year now. Jul 22 12:27:30 well, it was more snowy than usual Jul 22 12:27:33 but the cold is normal Jul 22 12:27:47 in bavaria, it is sunny, the sky is blue and the beer is cold :D Jul 22 12:28:05 kazwo: and .... Jul 22 12:28:13 .... schools out for summer ?! :) Jul 22 12:28:15 grtas Jul 22 12:28:19 YA! Jul 22 12:28:23 forever ? Jul 22 12:28:29 or just 6 weeks ? Jul 22 12:28:33 forever! Jul 22 12:28:36 lol Jul 22 12:28:38 nice1 Jul 22 12:28:42 you guys remember when barajas got closed? Jul 22 12:28:50 Comet: yes Jul 22 12:28:57 i was catching the plane that day Jul 22 12:29:06 man that was one hell of an adventure Jul 22 12:29:14 bloody taxi drivers at barajas never speak english Jul 22 12:29:39 I'm living in Tres Cantos and the line to the train was huge Jul 22 12:30:03 there was a carambulage in germany last week Jul 22 12:30:11 249 cars on the autobahn Jul 22 12:30:17 60km traffic jam Jul 22 12:30:18 :) Jul 22 12:30:22 wow Jul 22 12:30:32 biggest car crash evre in human history Jul 22 12:31:10 http://jalopnik.com/5318399/259+car-autobahn-pile+up-largest-in-german-history Jul 22 12:31:15 BLogic, we get 60Km. traffic jam with no accidents... Jul 22 12:31:36 yes Jul 22 12:31:41 that's what I was gonna say Jul 22 12:31:41 hahaha Jul 22 12:31:42 yes, but that is spain Jul 22 12:31:42 We're good in that Jul 22 12:31:46 even up to 200Km! Jul 22 12:31:47 people drive like rally drivers Jul 22 12:31:47 so anyone catching the M40 Jul 22 12:31:47 haha Jul 22 12:32:01 specially in the summer Jul 22 12:33:48 es la movida Jul 22 12:34:29 lol Jul 22 12:34:32 Comet: where are you from? Jul 22 12:34:48 pais hermano... Portugal Jul 22 12:34:51 ahh Jul 22 12:34:52 haha Jul 22 12:34:52 ok Jul 22 12:35:58 i'm here for the portuguese reconquista :P Jul 22 12:36:03 hahaha Jul 22 12:36:05 good luck Jul 22 12:36:06 XD Jul 22 12:37:17 have you guys been to Portugal ? Jul 22 12:37:30 yes Jul 22 12:37:32 twice Jul 22 12:37:33 for work Jul 22 12:37:35 at ZON Jul 22 12:37:41 but not enought to enjoy it Jul 22 12:37:42 :( Jul 22 12:37:48 yeah my service provider Jul 22 12:37:49 yeah Jul 22 12:38:01 do you have FON? Jul 22 12:38:12 did you opt in? Jul 22 12:38:13 I'm waiting for delivery in Portugal Jul 22 12:38:49 I heard of Fon throught Zon... Jul 22 12:38:56 i think in a sec openvpn will be able to open firewall and stuff Jul 22 12:38:57 :) Jul 22 12:39:01 you guys had one hell of a marketing campain there Jul 22 12:39:07 hehe Jul 22 12:39:10 i am getting close to it being really usable Jul 22 12:39:20 well, now they had some problems with the latest firmware... but soon they will roll out again Jul 22 12:39:22 iurgi: if there are any bugs, let me kniw Jul 22 12:39:23 :) Jul 22 12:39:31 i looked and it was only css foo, i will do that later Jul 22 12:39:42 on the image you just sent? Jul 22 12:39:47 nah Jul 22 12:39:48 i think I have one of those routers with fon firmware.. Jul 22 12:39:50 it's rc5+samba+wifi_patch? Jul 22 12:39:50 netgear ones Jul 22 12:39:53 the image i just sent is for gary Jul 22 12:39:57 ah Jul 22 12:39:57 ok Jul 22 12:39:58 yes Jul 22 12:40:02 good Jul 22 12:40:04 test it Jul 22 12:40:07 I have that one flashed Jul 22 12:40:11 I'm doing basic testing Jul 22 12:40:13 wifi testing Jul 22 12:40:14 1 sec Jul 22 12:40:21 let me test if all packages are correct Jul 22 12:41:18 iurgi: it is missing ffrpc :) Jul 22 12:41:20 good i remembered Jul 22 12:41:28 new image in 5 Jul 22 12:41:39 ok Jul 22 12:41:48 with ffrpc added Jul 22 12:48:41 fergus falls rifle and pistol club package? :P Jul 22 12:49:32 firefox rpc Jul 22 12:49:40 it is the fonera side of the firefox plugin Jul 22 12:49:53 ah :) Jul 22 12:52:06 Hello Jul 22 12:52:12 hi Jul 22 12:52:24 hi Jul 22 12:52:39 Kazwo is posible to download toorents from a private tracker with the fonera 2.0? Jul 22 12:53:45 or comet :) Jul 22 12:55:38 iam not sure Jul 22 12:56:20 fonero: in theory yes Jul 22 12:56:24 we use transmission Jul 22 12:56:38 our gui does not allow it, but there are many remote guis for transmisison Jul 22 12:56:47 they will allow yout to do so i assume Jul 22 12:58:13 well guys thanks for the chat.. see you all later Jul 22 13:00:11 blogic: "i have 7 different not support devices on my desk at the moment." < if you want i can send you 2 new :D Jul 22 13:02:35 blogic, so if posible where i have to make the login? Jul 22 13:16:41 fonero: yes Jul 22 13:16:49 http://fonera:9091/ Jul 22 13:16:56 kazwo: which ones ? Jul 22 13:17:29 I'm waiting for my E220 to be delivered Jul 22 13:21:28 blogic: usb thermomether http://www.pcsensor.com/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=31 and a usb phone Jul 22 13:23:21 haha Jul 22 13:23:36 :D Jul 22 13:24:12 ah, and a noname dvb-t stick Jul 22 13:25:13 Blogic, I have my USB coffee warmer mug. Please, don't forget to add support for it. Jul 22 13:25:47 the usb coffee warmer must have a twitter support! Jul 22 13:26:23 sure. It must warn when coffee is getting too cold :-d . The world must know Jul 22 13:39:24 bbl Jul 22 13:45:16 lol Jul 22 13:51:20 lol Jul 22 13:53:10 g'day Jul 22 13:53:16 hi Jul 22 13:53:21 heya Jul 22 13:53:33 im curious about new *fonera20n* plugins... Jul 22 13:53:44 yes Jul 22 13:53:54 jacobo: currently we have 3 public Jul 22 13:53:57 and 2 in the making Jul 22 13:54:02 they cant be added to the normal fonera 2? Jul 22 13:54:04 we have plans for many more though Jul 22 13:54:06 yes Jul 22 13:54:28 jacobo: 20n and 20 have the same firmware Jul 22 13:54:37 just fon20n has 2 times the power Jul 22 13:55:07 ah ok Jul 22 13:55:21 and 20n has more usb ports Jul 22 13:55:24 ermmm Jul 22 13:55:28 and 20n has more ethernet ports Jul 22 13:55:29 sorry Jul 22 13:55:48 its more like a router.. Jul 22 13:56:24 looks like a router* Jul 22 13:57:51 so... plugins fonera20n can be installed on fonera2g, right? Jul 22 15:01:32 http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Root-Luecke-in-freier-Router-Firmware-DD-WRT--/meldung/142410 Jul 22 15:01:34 :O Jul 22 15:11:20 yeah, the authentication code was quite funny Jul 22 15:12:33 xMff: what httpd do they use ? Jul 22 15:12:35 cutom ? Jul 22 15:12:52 blogic: yes Jul 22 15:15:34 it's a horrible mess, even with fixes, they write the command to execute to a file /tmp/exec.query, then execute it with /bin/sh blah < /tmp/exec.query Jul 22 15:16:26 http://www.milw0rm.com/exploits/9209 Jul 22 15:16:51 ? Jul 22 15:17:16 it's a badly written spaghetti-code-httpd Jul 22 15:18:03 .. Jul 22 15:18:42 and from looking at the code it seems to suffer from race conditions too, they write commands to execute from the query string to a temporary file and evaluate that with the shell Jul 22 15:18:52 the tempfile is always the same, no pid or so included Jul 22 15:19:13 wonder what happens if two requests happen at the same time Jul 22 15:19:37 but propably they don't fork Jul 22 15:21:57 it's sad that they are carzy enough to even charge money for that crap Jul 22 15:22:07 :D Jul 22 16:04:54 Versione Firmware: 2.2.5.0 Jul 22 16:04:54 Release Candidate: 5 Jul 22 16:04:54 * Uptime: 5, 03:40 Jul 22 16:04:59 :P Jul 22 16:05:16 Really stable... Thanks guys!!! Jul 22 16:05:21 ;) Jul 22 16:09:48 Danicasti: good :) Jul 22 16:09:54 what kind of usage are you doing? Jul 22 16:13:13 Firmware Version: 2.2.5.0 Jul 22 16:13:14 Release Candidate: 5 Jul 22 16:13:14 * Uptime: 6, 00:00 Jul 22 16:13:32 10% torrent, 90% idle Jul 22 16:21:44 good Jul 22 17:52:39 i like to eat hot :D Jul 22 18:42:20 why???? Your torrents will be downloaded to \Disc-B\torrent\ Jul 22 18:42:58 \Disc-B\ .... not Disc-B1 .... Jul 22 18:43:03 strange.... Jul 22 18:47:39 don't work.... Jul 22 18:47:42 :( Jul 22 20:56:09 Has anyone suceeded using WiFi WAN mode with this latest release? Jul 22 21:12:11 hey guys, I wanted to say thank you for all the great work with the Ralink RT3052 Jul 22 21:12:27 I was in the middle of diffing a vanilla 2.6.21 against the ralink SDK when I came across your stuff Jul 22 21:12:29 <3 Jul 22 22:02:14 aport`: haha Jul 22 22:16:20 so that's the new platform for the next fonera? Jul 22 22:16:57 how are you guys liking it? Jul 22 22:19:55 i like it **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jul 23 02:59:57 2009