**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 19 02:59:56 2009
Aug 19 08:14:38 <Decodecoding_> good morning. I successfuly compiled and image!
Aug 19 08:15:17 <Decodecoding_> Must admit it wasn't that hard following directions given by wiki...
Aug 19 08:16:24 <Danicasti> Buongiorno!
Aug 19 08:16:24 <Decodecoding> oh, I hava a doublr
Aug 19 08:31:51 <Decodecoding> so, after compiling a have a handful of files
Aug 19 08:32:15 <Decodecoding> I guess I need these two for flashing: loader.bin         openwrt-fonera2.image
Aug 19 11:13:06 <chao5> hi guys, can anyone help me unbrick a Fonera 2.0?
Aug 19 11:13:16 <chao5> something went wrong with it, and now it does not boot
Aug 19 11:13:29 <chao5> the wifi led does not turn on at all
Aug 19 11:14:11 <chao5> and while booting the device sends an UDP to 192.168.1.255 with the text "Press reset now to enter failsafe mode"
Aug 19 12:11:51 <Comet_> guys
Aug 19 12:12:10 <Comet_> can we expect any aditional plugins to come out with the 2.0n ?
Aug 19 12:12:35 <chao5> Comet_: noone seems to be willing to answer on this channel... :(
Aug 19 12:13:16 <Comet_> you're having problems with your fonera chaos?
Aug 19 12:29:36 <Comet_> need any help
Aug 19 12:29:37 <Comet_> ?
Aug 19 12:29:48 <chao5> yup, it does not boot anymore
Aug 19 12:30:43 <chao5> It's a 2.0 and I don't think that redboot is enabled on eth0
Aug 19 12:31:12 <chao5> although it sends an udp broadcast to 192.168.1.255 saying "Press reset now to enter failsafe mode"
Aug 19 12:32:20 <Comet__> have you followed the hard reset procedure
Aug 19 12:32:20 <Comet__> ?
Aug 19 12:32:51 <Decodecoding> Comet, I tried samba yesterday and it worked!
Aug 19 12:33:04 <Decodecoding> Was it you having problems with samba?
Aug 19 12:33:50 <Comet__> yeah
Aug 19 12:34:20 <Comet__> bn
Aug 19 12:34:36 <Comet__> i ended up solving the samba issue in my home netwrok
Aug 19 12:34:44 <Comet__> as you said i can't get samba without a tunnel
Aug 19 12:34:59 <Comet__> if i want to get a share from the internet
Aug 19 12:35:08 <Decodecoding> so you want to access it from the internet
Aug 19 12:35:13 <Comet__> yes
Aug 19 12:35:15 <Comet__> locally i can
Aug 19 12:35:15 <Decodecoding> ok, I see
Aug 19 12:35:36 <Decodecoding> You won't have to wait too long. They're working on vpn
Aug 19 12:35:59 <Comet__> i think ill wait for that
Aug 19 12:36:05 <Comet__> meanwhile ill use ftp
Aug 19 12:36:18 <Decodecoding> yes, that's what I do
Aug 19 12:36:20 <Comet__> i did tried to mount ftp as a drive
Aug 19 12:36:26 <Decodecoding> You can
Aug 19 12:36:41 <Comet__> have you been able to create an ftp drive?
Aug 19 12:36:45 <Decodecoding> yes
Aug 19 12:36:56 <Comet__> he doesnt let me login
Aug 19 12:37:04 <Comet__> what settings have you used?
Aug 19 12:37:07 <Decodecoding> I'll do the test now
Aug 19 12:37:15 <Decodecoding> from the internet
Aug 19 12:37:47 <Comet__> with filezilla i can access..but if i try to connect using windows explorer it doesnt let me
Aug 19 12:38:12 <chao5> Comet__: nope, what does it do and how? I need to recover the linux / partition inside to make it work again...
Aug 19 12:38:42 <chao5> Comet__: it died after an unsuccessfull rm -rf / instead of rm -rf ./ in the directory I needed to cleanup ;)
Aug 19 12:39:14 <Decodecoding> Comet, try creating a network place instead of creating a network unit
Aug 19 12:39:41 <Decodecoding> I've accessed my fonera this way
Aug 19 12:40:44 <Decodecoding> chao5, too bad ;-)
Aug 19 12:41:25 <chao5> Decodecoding: to bad if there's no way to recover ;) but if I designed a piece of hardware, I would make it unkillable ;)
Aug 19 12:41:52 <Decodecoding> Don't worry. There's always a solution for foneras.
Aug 19 12:41:58 <Comet__> http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Hardware_Reset
Aug 19 12:42:05 <Comet__> ofr hard reset chaos
Aug 19 12:42:32 <chao5> Comet__: is the procedure the same for 2.0
Aug 19 12:42:32 <chao5> ?
Aug 19 12:42:39 <Comet__> i believe so
Aug 19 12:43:01 <chao5> Comet__: step 2: Plug the power cable into the La Fonera, please wait until and Power light is stops flickering and is on, and WLAN light is flickering (Note: the WLAN light usually take 2 minutes to start flickering.)
Aug 19 12:43:17 <chao5> Comet__: but my wlan led is always off
Aug 19 12:44:25 <Comet__> thats the only info i found
Aug 19 12:44:42 <chao5> Comet__: I will try that anyway, thanks...
Aug 19 12:45:12 <chao5> Comet__: I hope to get into the redboot loader somehow.
Aug 19 12:45:27 <Decodecoding> chao5, since you have redboot diabled on eth0, maybe the serial cable is for you
Aug 19 12:46:05 <chao5> Decodecoding: that's right, but I am not sure whether it's disabled or not
Aug 19 12:46:25 <chao5> Decodecoding: wiki says so, but on the other hand, I get an UDP packet from it
Aug 19 12:46:42 <chao5> Decodecoding: but it does not ping, nor resolves fonera's arp
Aug 19 12:47:19 <chao5> Decodecoding: there should be a way to bring it back alive, and I thought that maybe someone on this channel knows..
Aug 19 13:00:20 <Comet__> i'm trying to create the network locatios as you sugested chaos
Aug 19 13:00:38 <Comet__> did you remember making something special
Aug 19 13:00:55 <Comet__> any configuration that you may have changed in your pc for this
Aug 19 13:01:06 <Comet__> i'm getting a permission error
Aug 19 13:01:12 <Comet__> no user pass asked
Aug 19 13:01:32 <Comet__> i might add that if i try to connect directly by ftp i get the same result
Aug 19 13:02:38 <Comet__> if i try to do something like this ftp://fonero:pass@mypc.home.dyndns.org/+
Aug 19 13:02:42 <Comet__> it doesnt work
Aug 19 13:03:01 <Decodecoding> go to My PC
Aug 19 13:03:15 <Decodecoding> and there "Create Network place" or something like that
Aug 19 13:04:00 <Comet__> map network drive
Aug 19 13:04:00 <Decodecoding> anyway, the line you typed, works for me
Aug 19 13:04:11 <Decodecoding> No, not map network drive
Aug 19 13:04:18 <Decodecoding> that didn't work for me
Aug 19 13:04:19 <Comet__> i think its an os issue
Aug 19 13:04:25 <Comet__> something must be different
Aug 19 13:04:39 <Decodecoding> what OS is yours?
Aug 19 13:05:16 <Comet__> windows 7
Aug 19 13:05:47 <Decodecoding> I'm with vista business here
Aug 19 13:06:08 <Comet__> i'm testing on vista now at work pc
Aug 19 13:06:56 <Comet__> im behind proxy ..its not leting me..but i remember checkin on my other other vista pc and it didnt work this way
Aug 19 13:07:03 <Decodecoding> Make sure you have WAN access granted
Aug 19 13:07:03 <Comet__> see if you can access this
Aug 19 13:07:04 <Comet__> ftp://jfplopes.home.dyndns.org/
Aug 19 13:07:13 <Comet__> this is my fon address
Aug 19 13:07:32 <Comet__> do you get the authentication screen?
Aug 19 13:07:34 <Decodecoding> 530 This is a private system - No anonymous login
Aug 19 13:07:41 <Comet__> exactly
Aug 19 13:07:54 <Decodecoding> But you have the credentials
Aug 19 13:08:02 <Decodecoding> The server is reachable
Aug 19 13:08:09 <Comet__> even if i put the credentials
Aug 19 13:08:11 <Comet__> such as
Aug 19 13:08:16 <Decodecoding> allright
Aug 19 13:08:22 <Comet__> ftp://user:pass@jfplopes.home.dyndns.org
Aug 19 13:08:23 <Comet__> right?
Aug 19 13:08:27 <Comet__> it doesnt login
Aug 19 13:08:36 <Decodecoding> Mine works fine with that syntax
Aug 19 13:08:46 <Decodecoding> I'm logged into mine that way
Aug 19 13:09:17 <Comet__> if you try connecting to yours directly without putting your user and pass it asks you for one right?
Aug 19 13:09:55 <Decodecoding> let's see
Aug 19 13:10:24 <Decodecoding> I get the same as you do
Aug 19 13:10:47 <Decodecoding> No login screen
Aug 19 13:10:58 <Decodecoding> 530 This is a private system - No anonymous login
Aug 19 13:11:14 <Comet__> so only if you use the ftp://user:pass@jfplopes.home.dyndns.org right
Aug 19 13:12:08 <Comet__> by the way
Aug 19 13:12:34 <Comet__> user and pass are ...fonero right and pass ...the one we define for fonera login
Aug 19 13:12:34 <Comet__> default admin
Aug 19 13:13:21 <Decodecoding> everytime you flash you're prompted to create a new password so I don't know if there is default...
Aug 19 13:13:35 <Decodecoding> but maybe you're right
Aug 19 13:13:39 <Comet__> ok ..thanks decodecoding.. i think im on the right track.it is not the fonera from what i can tell..some configuration on my os side for sure
Aug 19 13:13:54 <Comet__> thanks
Aug 19 13:14:02 <Decodecoding> you're welcome
Aug 19 13:14:10 <Comet__> going to test back home
Aug 19 13:14:13 <Comet__> see you later
Aug 19 13:14:19 <Decodecoding> c ya
Aug 19 13:14:26 <Comet__> time to leave "work" :P
Aug 19 13:28:51 <dasjoe> <chao5> there should be a way to bring it back alive, and I thought that maybe someone on this channel knows.. - Just open the Fonera, connect a serial converter to the row of Pins, don't connect VCC. The pins are (starting at JP1): GND, RX, TX, VCC
Aug 19 13:29:17 <Decodecoding> yes, that's a  solution
Aug 19 13:30:03 <dasjoe> Then use a serial console (try "screen /dev/ttyUSB0 9600") and tftp/xmodem/http to rescue it.
Aug 19 13:30:36 <chao5> dasjoe: yup, that's what I want to do, but I don't have any UART to RS232 or USB converter and need to wait a week or two for one to arrive
Aug 19 13:30:46 <chao5> dasjoe: I thought that http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/wiki/redboot could work
Aug 19 13:31:20 <chao5> dasjoe: but I couldn't ping the device or anything immediately after powering it on, but still I could receive one udp packet from it in about 10 seconds...
Aug 19 13:31:21 <dasjoe> Redboot is disabled by default, even though the UDP packet is sent out
Aug 19 13:31:41 <chao5> dasjoe: ah, ok. so this explains everything :) thanks for the answer
Aug 19 13:31:59 <dasjoe> afaik it was not supposed to be off :)
Aug 19 13:32:26 <dasjoe> Don't forget to turn it on when you've got your serial console connected
Aug 19 13:37:18 <Decodecoding> yes, it is an epic fail :-d
Aug 19 13:42:48 <Decodecoding> hopefully there'll be a workaround for that
Aug 19 14:16:43 <Comet_> hi everyone...
Aug 19 14:17:07 <Decodecoding> you're fast
Aug 19 14:17:20 <Comet_> i'm extremely near to work
Aug 19 14:17:21 <Comet_> hehe
Aug 19 14:17:34 <Comet_> house is rented by the company
Aug 19 14:17:38 <Comet_> they want to keep me near
Aug 19 14:17:39 <Comet_> :P
Aug 19 14:18:28 <Comet_> man this ftp thing is killing me...
Aug 19 14:18:47 <Decodecoding> don't worry
Aug 19 14:18:51 <Decodecoding> you'l fix it
Aug 19 14:18:55 <Comet_> been checking stuff and can't find a work around
Aug 19 14:18:55 <Comet_> must be a windows security policy or anything messing up
Aug 19 14:18:58 <Comet_> firewall is down
Aug 19 14:19:02 <Comet_> but nothing
Aug 19 14:19:23 <Decodecoding> try with a Ubuntu Live CD to isolate the problem
Aug 19 14:19:49 <Comet_> yeah  i think ill do something like that
Aug 19 14:21:37 <Comet_> can you try this out ofr me ftp://fonero:test@jfplopes.home.dyndns.org
Aug 19 14:21:47 <Comet_> it should log in
Aug 19 14:22:16 <Decodecoding> No error but blank screen
Aug 19 14:22:30 <Decodecoding> oh, wait
Aug 19 14:22:39 <Comet_> you're in right?
Aug 19 14:22:49 <Decodecoding> wait
Aug 19 14:23:07 <Decodecoding> startinf ftp transfer
Aug 19 14:24:00 <Decodecoding> but I can't get to see any folder
Aug 19 14:24:40 <Comet_> damn
Aug 19 14:24:42 <Comet_> same issue then
Aug 19 14:25:05 <Comet_> let me see
Aug 19 14:25:13 <Comet_> port forwarding for sure
Aug 19 14:25:20 <Comet_> but what ports do i need to open
Aug 19 14:25:20 <Comet_> ?
Aug 19 14:25:27 <Comet_> i have 21 nad 22
Aug 19 14:25:39 <Decodecoding> that should do the trick
Aug 19 14:26:13 <Comet_> my fonera is connected to an isp router
Aug 19 14:26:19 <Comet_> so fonera is not the "main"
Aug 19 14:26:39 <Comet_> and redirect is not to the fonera 192.168.1.10
Aug 19 14:26:51 <Comet_> it is to the ip assigned by the isp router to the fon
Aug 19 14:26:59 <Comet_> is this different from your setup?
Aug 19 14:28:48 <Decodecoding> Yes
Aug 19 14:29:21 <Decodecoding> Mine is connected to a cable modem wich asigns to my fonera a public IP, like 84.XX.XX.XX in the WAN side
Aug 19 14:29:46 <Comet_> you set dmz then?
Aug 19 14:29:53 <Decodecoding> My fonera acts as main router so no port forwarding required
Aug 19 14:29:54 <Comet_> you set dmz to the fonera?
Aug 19 14:29:57 <Decodecoding> no
Aug 19 14:30:03 <Comet_> oh i see
Aug 19 14:30:09 <Decodecoding> only open ports
Aug 19 14:30:14 <Decodecoding> from WAN  side
Aug 19 14:30:35 <Comet_> so your cable modem is not router
Aug 19 14:30:39 <Comet_> right?
Aug 19 14:30:46 <Decodecoding> No, just modem, nothin to set up in it
Aug 19 14:31:00 <Comet_> well that explains it then
Aug 19 14:31:12 <Comet_> i bet its a port forwarding issue
Aug 19 14:31:32 <Comet_> so in your local lan you can reach 192.168.1.10
Aug 19 14:31:37 <Comet_> right?
Aug 19 14:31:38 <Decodecoding> maybe
Aug 19 14:31:56 <Decodecoding> my local subnet is 192.168.10.x
Aug 19 14:32:05 <Comet_> yeah
Aug 19 14:32:13 <Comet_> that's it
Aug 19 14:32:30 <Decodecoding> and there hangs my pc and even another fonera
Aug 19 14:36:52 <Comet_> i just set dmz to the fonera
Aug 19 14:37:08 <Comet_> and i think it will solve the issue
Aug 19 15:09:34 <Comet_> nope nothing
Aug 19 15:09:39 <Comet_> oh well
Aug 19 15:09:43 <Decodecoding> oops
Aug 19 15:09:46 <Comet_> at least i can work with filezilla
Aug 19 15:09:53 <Comet_> one question deco
Aug 19 15:09:57 <Decodecoding> yes
Aug 19 15:10:03 <Comet_> for putty
Aug 19 15:10:16 <Comet_> it doesnt work with the lastest fonera firmware right?
Aug 19 15:10:22 <Comet_> i need to reset it ?
Aug 19 15:10:30 <Decodecoding> I use putty for ssh only
Aug 19 15:10:49 <Decodecoding> you mean that?
Aug 19 15:11:11 <Comet_> ive got my fonera set to dev and got ssh enabled in the fonera
Aug 19 15:11:23 <Comet_> shouldn't i be able to connect to the fonera remotely?
Aug 19 15:11:30 <Decodecoding> yes you should
Aug 19 15:11:30 <Comet_> ssh enabled on wan
Aug 19 15:11:40 <Decodecoding> there's been some troble with passwords
Aug 19 15:11:49 <Decodecoding> after upgrades
Aug 19 15:11:52 <Comet_> how 's that?
Aug 19 15:11:58 <Comet_> i got the RC5
Aug 19 15:12:02 <Decodecoding> I'm not sure
Aug 19 15:12:22 <Comet_> i don't get to the login part
Aug 19 15:12:22 <Decodecoding> but I remember something like trying to set the password again
Aug 19 15:12:31 <Decodecoding> in the fonera webgui
Aug 19 15:13:04 <Comet_> well i don't need port forwarding now..the fonera is reachable with dmz
Aug 19 15:13:15 <Decodecoding> of course, an 8 character password at least, and numbers and all the bla, bla...
Aug 19 15:13:19 <Comet_> so in putty i should just put the fonera addresss right?
Aug 19 15:13:25 <Decodecoding> yes
Aug 19 15:13:39 <Decodecoding> port 22
Aug 19 15:14:02 <Comet_> jfplopes.home.dyndns.org
Aug 19 15:14:03 <Comet_> port 22
Aug 19 15:14:09 <Comet_> SSH
Aug 19 15:14:19 <Comet_> everything else as it is
Aug 19 15:14:27 <Comet_> no tunnels no nothing
Aug 19 15:14:42 <Decodecoding> no
Aug 19 15:15:02 <Comet_> anything else needed?
Aug 19 15:15:59 <Comet_> connection refused
Aug 19 15:16:28 <Decodecoding> ummm
Aug 19 15:17:42 <Decodecoding> try with your internal subnet IP if you're at home
Aug 19 15:18:31 <Comet__> connection drop
Aug 19 15:18:48 <Decodecoding> weird
Aug 19 15:19:02 <Decodecoding> but I bet it is something related to password
Aug 19 15:45:54 <Decodecoding> a ver algun finde en septiembre nos pasamos por PL a dar un voltio
Aug 19 15:47:35 <Comet_> es espanol_
Aug 19 15:47:36 <Comet_> ?
Aug 19 15:48:18 <Comet_> estoy trabajando en madrid
Aug 19 15:48:23 <Comet_> tres cantos
Aug 19 15:48:49 <Decodecoding> sorry, wrong window  :-d
Aug 19 15:49:14 <Decodecoding> anyway, one day, there should be a fonero meeting in Madrid or surroundings
Aug 19 15:49:14 <Comet_> jeje
Aug 19 15:49:21 <Comet_> yeah
Aug 19 15:50:07 <Comet_> I'm from portugal, but currently working in Repsol
Aug 19 15:50:16 <Comet_> outsourcing
Aug 19 15:50:17 <Decodecoding> I know, you told one day
Aug 19 15:50:42 <Comet_> oh...yeah ..the other day
Aug 19 15:50:50 <Comet_> forgot the nicks sorry
Aug 19 15:50:52 <Comet_> hehe
Aug 19 15:50:54 <Decodecoding> je je
Aug 19 16:11:09 <jmares> Hi all. Can I use BT Openzone for free being a Fonero? I am not a BTFON user, just a Fonero.
Aug 19 16:11:27 <Decodecoding> I don't know...
Aug 19 16:12:01 <Decodecoding> But I think BT Openzone are paid hotspots..
Aug 19 16:12:09 <Decodecoding> I'm afraid.
Aug 19 16:12:11 <jmares> Yes they are
Aug 19 16:12:34 <Decodecoding> I think you should look for BTFON spots
Aug 19 16:13:09 <jmares> Yes
Aug 19 16:13:13 <jmares> I think that's it
Aug 19 16:13:44 <jmares> It seems BT broadband subscribers get bundled minutes on BT Openzone
Aug 19 16:13:55 <Decodecoding> Never been to britain sicnce fon started up but maps show a great amount of spots.
Aug 19 16:14:26 <Decodecoding> It shouldn't be difficult to find one to connect to
Aug 19 16:25:14 <jmares> So you can connect to some BT Openzone spots, but there are premium ones which you have to pay for
Aug 19 20:39:33 <ddluk> Hi all, I've got a problem with fonera 2.0, I connected to it 1 TB hard disk, when I trying to mount in on my mac using samba the system only see 20 mb
Aug 19 20:50:11 <ddluk> iurgi maybe you know how to solve that problem
Aug 19 23:00:05 <Decodecoding> I flashed my compiled firm!!
Aug 19 23:00:14 <Decodecoding> let's check what's in it
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