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Oct 21 07:21:34 <Danicasti> Buongiorno!
Oct 21 07:34:14 <alexsc> buongiorno Danicasti
Oct 21 08:08:39 <OdyX> Hi. I am trying to build fon-ng (I would like to prepare an ipv6 (aiccu+radvd) package), but make menuconfig fails (I updated the openwrt feeds)
Oct 21 08:09:13 <OdyX> "tmp/.config-package.in:30393: invalid option"
Oct 21 08:14:17 <blathijs> OdyX: Which FON version are you building?
Oct 21 08:15:18 <OdyX> blathijs: I followed http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/wiki/build <-
Oct 21 08:15:38 <OdyX> I did first a make menuconfig without the openwrt feeds
Oct 21 08:15:44 <OdyX> in which I choosed the fon2.0n
Oct 21 08:16:12 <OdyX> then I updated and installed the openwrt feeds
Oct 21 08:17:38 * OdyX cleans and restarts from a clean svn
Oct 21 08:20:12 <blathijs> OdyX: The OpenWRT feeds thing is optional, so unless you really need them, it's easier not to install them
Oct 21 08:20:30 <OdyX> blathijs: afaik aiccu is not in the fon-ng repository, no ?
Oct 21 08:20:36 <blathijs> probably not
Oct 21 08:20:46 <blathijs> OdyX: Even if you need some OpenWRT packages, you would be better not to use the -a flags, but just select the packages you need
Oct 21 08:20:49 <OdyX> , so what's the better way to get it build
Oct 21 08:20:51 <OdyX> ah okay
Oct 21 08:21:22 <blathijs> Also note that the FON build system has broken dependency handling for OpenWRT feeds, this was fixed in OpenWRT, but not in FON yet
Oct 21 08:21:44 <blathijs> iurgi: Are there any plans to update the OpenWRT version FON uses? Perhaps after the 2.3.0.1 release?
Oct 21 08:22:34 <OdyX> now for general questions :-p Is there people here interested in an "aiccu+radvd+ipv6 routing" plugin ?
Oct 21 08:22:55 <blathijs> Sounds interesting
Oct 21 08:23:02 <blathijs> What's aiccu?
Oct 21 08:24:29 <OdyX> aiccu is http://www.sixxs.net/tools/aiccu/ <- aka a program to somehow build a tunnel between an ipv4 destination (e.g. my Home) to an ipv6 SiXxs PoP
Oct 21 08:25:04 <OdyX> you can then get ipv6 connectivity at home. The ipv6 traffic goes through the PoP and then to the WWWv6
Oct 21 08:25:10 <OdyX> (and back)
Oct 21 08:25:20 <blathijs> Ah, in that case I'd be interested :-)
Oct 21 08:25:34 <blathijs> I was going to say I was not since my ISP doesn't offer ipv6  :-p
Oct 21 08:26:00 <OdyX> sixxs provides a rather easy way to get ipv6 connectivity (even if not native)
Oct 21 08:26:09 <OdyX> (look at my connection IP :-p)
Oct 21 08:26:11 <blathijs> Yeah, I know sixxs
Oct 21 08:28:25 <OdyX> providing a plugin for the fonera would be damn cool "exactly what a routeur should do" :-p
Oct 21 08:28:36 <blathijs> OdyX: To create a plugin, I think you need to compile the OpenWRT stuff as separate packages (so select "M" in menuconfig), create an extra package containing an install script, and then use ipkg2fon.sh or something like that to build the plugin
Oct 21 08:28:57 <blathijs> OdyX: But for testing you can just the opkg command on your Fonera to install .ipkg files directly
Oct 21 08:28:58 <OdyX> (it also needs kernel modules :-/ )
Oct 21 08:29:13 <blathijs> Kernel modules are mostly easy, you can just select them in menuconfig
Oct 21 08:29:21 <OdyX> okay
Oct 21 08:29:35 <blathijs> I've never actually gone all the way on this plugin path, though, but this is what I've learned so far :-)
Oct 21 08:30:16 <blathijs> I've stranded at the available flash space on the Fonera, my Pulseaudio packages (~14MB) didn't fit in the 1MB available
Oct 21 08:31:22 <OdyX> so the way to do it is to build the openwrt packages and kernel modules in the menuconfig
Oct 21 08:31:33 <blathijs> Yeah, I think so
Oct 21 08:31:48 <blathijs> Though I'm not so sure where your menuconfig error comes from
Oct 21 08:32:09 <blathijs> AFAIK, updating the OpenWRT feeds shouldn't change menuconfig
Oct 21 08:32:29 <blathijs> unless something new was added to OpenWRT's menuconfig that is needed for the newer feeds or something...
Oct 21 08:32:43 <OdyX> the fault is in the install -a
Oct 21 08:32:49 <OdyX> I should install only the ones I need
Oct 21 08:34:30 <OdyX> thanks blathijs !
Oct 21 08:34:33 <blathijs> Are you sure that that is the cause, or do you think so because I said something like that?
Oct 21 08:34:58 <OdyX> I think it is the case because what you said seemed sensible
Oct 21 08:35:04 <OdyX> and will try actually
Oct 21 08:35:20 * OdyX thr0ws away his b0rken english.
Oct 21 08:38:05 <OdyX> "scripts/feeds update -a ; make menuconfig " works
Oct 21 08:38:09 <OdyX> you was right
Oct 21 08:39:18 <blathijs> Apparently, though this wasn't the case a few weeks ago (install -a didn't break menuconfig then, it just made things slow :-)
Oct 21 08:39:42 <blathijs> OdyX: You might need to manually check the makefiles of the packages you install, btw, to install the dependencies
Oct 21 08:39:43 <OdyX> by the way, what is the target image for the fonera ?
Oct 21 08:39:50 <OdyX> yeah sure
Oct 21 08:39:56 <blathijs> Target image?
Oct 21 08:40:13 <OdyX> ramdisk, jffs2, squashfs ?
Oct 21 08:40:30 <blathijs> I think squashfs, but the default is probably fine?
Oct 21 08:40:38 <OdyX> yeah. will try
Oct 21 08:41:00 <blathijs> btw, to (partially) fix the dependency handling, apply https://dev.openwrt.org/changeset/12615
Oct 21 08:41:25 <blathijs> There is still some brokenness then, see https://dev.openwrt.org/ticket/5891
Oct 21 08:41:32 <blathijs> But that seems minor
Oct 21 08:46:11 * OdyX builds
Oct 21 08:55:23 <OdyX> weee "make[3]: mipsel-linux-uclibc-gcc: Command not found"
Oct 21 08:55:46 <OdyX> it seems I should do the full build first
Oct 21 08:56:49 <blathijs> OdyX: What are you trying now? Just a single package?
Oct 21 08:56:59 <OdyX> yeah, just aiccu
Oct 21 08:57:07 <blathijs> OdyX: Doing the full build is probably better, it will then also build packages for any package marked M
Oct 21 08:57:22 <OdyX> yeah, noticed that
Oct 21 11:07:48 <SkyNETbbs> Hi today the first pictures were twittered/retweeted about the "White" edition of the Fonera 2.0n : http://www.fon.ne.jp/fonera2n/#leftBox4
Oct 21 11:08:00 <SkyNETbbs> Only available in Japan as Iurgi told us here last week... :-(
Oct 21 11:08:24 <SkyNETbbs> for those who would like to compare : http://blog.fon.com/nl/archive/events/de-witte-fonera-20n.html
Oct 21 11:08:58 <SkyNETbbs> I'm curious if someone would make a "plugin" to add a "white" template.... the pictures on the Japanese FONsite indicate it's still "green" :-)
Oct 21 11:10:06 <alexsc> thank you for these nice pics ;)
Oct 21 11:10:20 <SkyNETbbs> Blathijs: I've just gone trough the logging... yes you can compile "binary" lua but you can overwrite them with the "not compiled" version
Oct 21 11:10:51 <SkyNETbbs> Blathijs : http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Fonera_Development#Using_Lua ... it only will give 50% reduction in size when compiled...for the rest it's an added bonus for those that want to create "closed source" plugins :)-)
Oct 21 11:11:31 <blathijs> SkyNETbbs: 50% is pretty worthwile, considering the Fonera's only have 8MB :-)
Oct 21 11:11:41 <SkyNETbbs> OdyX : Yes ipv6 has been requested MANY times by fonero users : ipv6 thread on the forum : http://boards.fon.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5808&p=42393&hilit=ipv6#p42393
Oct 21 11:13:04 <blathijs> Hmm, SkyNETbbs makes me wonder how he responds to things that were said before he was joined :-)
Oct 21 11:13:20 <SkyNETbbs> Blathijs : I believe you have 32mbyte on a fonera 2.0g and 64mbyte on a fonera 2.0n ... for "plugins" you have only  upto 1,9mbyte partition... if you use a pendrive as swap (ReadyBoost? :-) perhaps a repartitioning would give you more space for your kernel mods?
Oct 21 11:13:35 <blathijs> SkyNETbbs: I think that's RAM, I'm talking about Flash
Oct 21 11:13:40 <SkyNETbbs> I guess only kernel plugins can't be put on an FMG?
Oct 21 11:14:15 <SkyNETbbs> ah yes... that never changed that's correct... the only nice thing it's 4x faster flash memory on a fonera 2.0n "Ferari" :-)
Oct 21 11:14:15 <blathijs> SkyNETbbs: I don't see any problem with putting a kernel module on a pendrive, though it will probably require some code changes
Oct 21 11:14:48 <blathijs> SkyNETbbs: Yup, the 2.0n has pretty fast flash they say :-)
Oct 21 11:14:52 <SkyNETbbs> Also about that error this morning reported by OdYx... I have the same issue...
Oct 21 11:15:22 <blathijs> SkyNETbbs: OdyX solved it by not running install -a for the openwrt feeds
Oct 21 11:15:28 <SkyNETbbs> I reported it 10 days ago on the developer mailinglist... no response though...
Oct 21 11:15:50 <blathijs> SkyNETbbs: Perhaps there are some openwrt packages that require a newer version of the OpenWRT build system or something
Oct 21 11:16:00 <SkyNETbbs> I tried with a small script that tried to install all packages except those i "blacklist"... but it didn't help yet 100% =(
Oct 21 11:16:46 <SkyNETbbs> Blathijs : YES... the error is in the general makefile where all packages are listed... the Fon-ng build system doesn't like the lines with ":" in it like :     select PACKAGE_PACKAGE_python-hippo-canvas:pycairo
Oct 21 11:17:18 <SkyNETbbs> with "gedit" you can search on line number... at the moment I just remove those packages from that temp file...so "make menuconfig" starts...
Oct 21 11:17:45 <SkyNETbbs> a "make distclean" and ./install.sh will fix everything... but it will take "hours" again to rebuild everything :(
Oct 21 11:18:50 <blathijs> Ah, right
Oct 21 11:20:26 <blathijs> SkyNETbbs: I sent a quick reply to your message
Oct 21 11:20:44 <blathijs> SkyNETbbs: I hadn't remembered your message when OdyX showed up this morning
Oct 21 11:29:50 <xMff> regarding lines with colons, those are conditional dependency specificiations, I guess the problem can be solved by using feeds.pl and metadata.pm from openwrt trunk
Oct 21 11:32:52 <SkyNETbbs> xMff : With "openwrt trunk" you don't mean the "feeds.pl" inside fon-ng/trunk/openwrt/scripts which is currently used?
Oct 21 11:33:27 <xMff> no with openwrt trunk I mean openwrt.org :)
Oct 21 11:34:04 <xMff> https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/scripts/metadata.pl
Oct 21 11:34:06 <xMff> https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/scripts/metadata.pm
Oct 21 11:34:18 <xMff> https://dev.openwrt.org/browser/trunk/scripts/feeds
Oct 21 11:34:21 <txurdi> Hi people!
Oct 21 11:34:36 <txurdi> one question about fonera
Oct 21 11:35:32 <SkyNETbbs> xMff : okay i'll do a fresh svn co of openwrt.org and copy those files to my fon-ng trunk  this evening :-)
Oct 21 11:36:02 <txurdi> how can I forward port 80 to a server instead of the fonera page?
Oct 21 11:36:16 <xMff> maybe replace the whole scripts/, not sure whether other files are outdated as well
Oct 21 11:37:41 <SkyNETbbs> xMff : i'll do a check with those 3...if not sufficent i'll try it all...I'll update the http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Fonera_Development#How_to_add_extra_packages_to_the_firmware accordingly
Oct 21 11:39:15 <xMff> txurdi: http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/F2_MgtConsole_tweaks#firewall.user
Oct 21 11:39:15 <xMff> echo "iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0.1 --dport 80 -j DNAT --to serverip:80" >> /etc/firewall.user
Oct 21 11:39:15 <xMff> echo "iptables -I FORWARD -p tcp -i eth0.1 -d serverip --dport 80 -j ACCEPT" >> /etc/firewall.user
Oct 21 11:42:52 <txurdi> xMff, is it posible to do it by the Administration panel?
Oct 21 11:43:04 <xMff> txurdi: no idea
Oct 21 11:43:21 <blathijs> txurdi: I think niot
Oct 21 11:44:18 <txurdi> someone told me something about redirecting port 443 to 80 in my IP
Oct 21 11:46:36 <SkyNETbbs> why would you want to redirect it?
Oct 21 11:46:58 <SkyNETbbs> the 2.3 uses now only port 443 on "wan"... so port 80 is "free" to be used for other stuff... like running a webserver on /www :-)
Oct 21 11:47:24 <txurdi> don't know, someone told me to do it for geting port 80 in my server 80 À?
Oct 21 11:48:33 <txurdi> but I forwarded my port 80 to another IP 80 and does not work (with the admin panel)
Oct 21 11:51:02 <SkyNETbbs> xMff : I succeed in building the fon-ng for "fonera plus"... it runs... it works... when I go to the "gui"... I can enjoy the fon-ng gui for a few seconds... then the device will reboot... any idea where to look ... where it might need improvement?
Oct 21 11:51:45 <xMff> SkyNETbbs: do you have serial console?
Oct 21 11:52:26 <xMff> try to disable the watchdog (chmod -x /sbin/watchdog) and check for out-of-memory conditions
Oct 21 11:52:50 <xMff> watchdog timmer cannot be halted on a running system so you need to reboot after disabling it
Oct 21 11:53:22 <SkyNETbbs> Okay i'll connect with a serial console... and check it out ...thnx!
Oct 21 11:54:37 <blathijs> xMff: Why need serial? Will SSH break on out of memory?
Oct 21 11:55:09 <xMff> blathijs: you can't capture certain messages over ssh
Oct 21 11:56:44 <blathijs> xMff: Ah
Oct 21 11:58:01 <SkyNETbbs> Blathijs : "logread -f" was futile to check on the "why/how" fonera 2.0n was rebooting on certain stuff....  I believe only Blogic knows where the "serial" connector is located on Fonera 2.0n?
Oct 21 11:58:29 <txurdi> one question, SSH is only posible with a developer image? must I flash my fonera?
Oct 21 11:58:36 <iurgi> yes
Oct 21 11:59:04 <SkyNETbbs> Anyone knows which 4 dots might be the serial console port? :-) http://www.flickr.com/photos/33774222@N08/3861108647/
Oct 21 11:59:32 <xMff> SkyNETbbs: lower left corner? very likely
Oct 21 12:02:56 <SkyNETbbs> now to find out which is vcc,rx,tx,gnd :-)
Oct 21 12:04:31 <SkyNETbbs> back to work ...Seeya!
Oct 21 12:11:37 <Jack___> hello
Oct 21 12:13:19 <Jack_> rejoin
Oct 21 12:13:32 <Jack_> hello again
Oct 21 12:30:01 <iurgi> hi
Oct 21 12:30:30 <blathijs> hey iurgi
Oct 21 12:43:26 <inouk> xMff, yes but check the other side of the board to see if it's wired
Oct 21 12:58:44 <OdyX> Might be a dummy question, anyway : why isn't the fonera image somehow organised (and updateable) by a package manager ?
Oct 21 12:59:04 <OdyX> (aka why is it needed to build the whole to get something consistent ?)
Oct 21 12:59:37 <xMff> because there is no other way to do it
Oct 21 13:00:03 <xMff> to achieve small enough sizes the filesystem must be heavily compressed
Oct 21 13:00:14 <OdyX> hmm
Oct 21 13:00:16 <OdyX> right
Oct 21 13:00:20 <xMff> due to this compression the file system is read only
Oct 21 13:00:34 <OdyX> how are plugins managed then ?
Oct 21 13:00:49 <xMff> by a writable overlay filesystem
Oct 21 13:01:03 <xMff> which is formatted into the remaining free flash space
Oct 21 13:01:28 * OdyX learns.
Oct 21 13:05:16 <Barbon_> oi
Oct 21 13:05:24 <Barbon_> i have some problem with fonera 2.0n
Oct 21 13:05:30 <Barbon_> can i talk?
Oct 21 13:06:16 <blathijs> Barbon_: Yes, getting answers works best when you ask questions :-)
Oct 21 13:07:16 <Barbon_> ok
Oct 21 13:07:20 <Barbon_> 1° bug:
Oct 21 13:07:25 <Barbon_> on fon 2.0n
Oct 21 13:07:31 <Barbon_> the wireless name is incorect
Oct 21 13:07:48 <Barbon_> such i write home as wireless name
Oct 21 13:07:51 <Barbon_> "home"
Oct 21 13:08:09 <Barbon_> and with my pc can connnect on it my other pc appaer as "/$/£home£$£)"
Oct 21 13:08:34 <Barbon_> and if i write "home work" as name appaer only "home"
Oct 21 13:09:53 <Barbon_> is an bug?
Oct 21 13:12:30 <blathijs> Barbon_: Where did you set the wireless name? On the dashboard/
Oct 21 13:12:45 <DreamOfMirrors_> Hello, do you know if there are problems connecting from windows client to openvpn on Fonera? I succesfully connect from linux but I have problems trying to connect from windows and I cannot understand why...
Oct 21 13:12:51 <Barbon_> yea
Oct 21 13:13:09 <Barbon_> i have write the name on dashboard
Oct 21 13:13:23 <Barbon_> on private wireless name
Oct 21 13:14:49 <Barbon_> blathijs you have an idea on it?
Oct 21 13:17:40 <blathijs> Barbon_: Not really. Does it happen every time?
Oct 21 13:17:45 <Barbon_> yea
Oct 21 13:17:49 <Barbon_> tryed to reset it
Oct 21 13:17:59 <blathijs> perhaps change it again?
Oct 21 13:18:07 <Barbon_> already tryed
Oct 21 13:18:10 <Barbon_> dont work
Oct 21 13:18:18 <blathijs> Barbon_: I guess you could try to enable developer mode, and use SSH to look around in /etc/config and perhaps look at the output of
Oct 21 13:18:22 <blathijs> "iwconfig"
Oct 21 13:18:30 <blathijs> but that might be too advanced? :-)
Oct 21 13:18:48 <blathijs> I gotta go, so good luck (Perhaps someone else can lend a hand)
Oct 21 13:18:49 <Barbon_> si already deveplover mode
Oct 21 13:18:53 <Barbon_> is fon 2.0n
Oct 21 13:19:04 <Barbon_> not fon 2.0
Oct 21 13:19:20 <Barbon_> ok other question...
Oct 21 13:19:38 <xMff> DreamOfMirrors_: put the log output in pastebin, also increase verbosity
Oct 21 13:19:45 <Barbon_> but i think that issue that i explain now is connected to bridge mode
Oct 21 13:19:53 <Barbon_> i use hamachi for play with an fastweb user
Oct 21 13:20:15 <DreamOfMirrors_> yes, I will try to log in a moment (i know without logs it's impossible to search for problems :) )
Oct 21 13:20:15 <Barbon_> with fonera 1 with no-fon firmware i connect well
Oct 21 13:20:45 <Barbon_> with fonera 2 or fonera 2.0n i see him blue, and cant connect on him
Oct 21 13:24:54 <Barbon_> for play well i have to use fon 1
Oct 21 13:25:00 <Barbon_> :/
Oct 21 13:25:38 <Barbon_> if bridge mode will be put on fonera, this become the best-seller modem :P
Oct 21 13:25:54 <Barbon_> *ehm w-fi router
Oct 21 13:28:38 <Barbon_> so what is wrong with bridge feature?
Oct 21 13:29:16 <Barbon_> i have a lot of problem with fon 2 only for bridge feature missing ^^
Oct 21 13:34:55 <DreamOfMirrors_> My fault, it works :O
Oct 21 13:36:07 <DreamOfMirrors_> (on a virtual machine works, maybe on the other pc I have firewall problems)
Oct 21 14:12:11 <Danicasti> barbon: http://www.lorenzobraghetto.com/index.php/2009/09/08/fonera-2-0-bridge/ :P
Oct 21 14:20:47 <Barbon_> o_O
Oct 21 14:21:40 <Barbon_> danicasti funziona davvero?
Oct 21 14:22:53 <Danicasti> Non saprei... bisogna provare...
Oct 21 14:24:33 <Barbon_> dicono che funziona...
Oct 21 14:24:45 <Barbon_> vale anche per la fonera 2.0n?
Oct 21 14:25:10 <Danicasti> uhm... mi sa di no...
Oct 21 14:25:31 <Barbon_> che 2 palline
Oct 21 14:26:32 <Barbon_> cambio pc
Oct 21 14:26:44 <Barbon_> Danicasti te hai la fonera 2.0n?
Oct 21 14:27:41 <Barbon_> come perfomance è un mostro
Oct 21 14:27:43 <Barbon_> però
Oct 21 14:27:46 <Danicasti> Yes... in parking.... :(
Oct 21 14:27:47 <Barbon_> fa cagare come software
Oct 21 14:27:52 <Danicasti> No wifi mode....
Oct 21 14:27:57 <Barbon_> lol
Oct 21 14:28:08 <Barbon_> il wifi-mode è bugato
Oct 21 14:28:27 <Barbon_> da problemi con nome
Oct 21 14:28:29 <Barbon_> nn so perchè
Oct 21 14:28:37 <Barbon_> tipo se scrivo Rete Casa come nome wifi
Oct 21 14:28:44 <Barbon_> mi appare solo "Rete"
Oct 21 14:28:52 <Barbon_> e alcuni pc non riescono a connetersi
Oct 21 14:28:57 <Barbon_> bah...
Oct 21 14:29:00 <Barbon_> aspetto aggiornamenti va
Oct 21 14:29:16 <OdyX> Geeze… THe build somehow asks for the Machine type (kernel)
Oct 21 14:30:02 <Danicasti> :(
Oct 21 14:32:57 * OdyX tries the 2.3.0.0 tag
Oct 21 15:15:02 <OdyX> From the tag folder, the procedure is ./install.sh -> cd openwrt; make menuconfig; make V=99 , right ?
Oct 21 16:50:06 <iosonoio> hi!
Oct 21 16:50:08 <iosonoio> anyone?
Oct 21 16:50:15 <iosonoio> iurgi: are you here?
Oct 21 16:50:53 <iurgi> yes
Oct 21 16:50:59 <iurgi> but very busy I'm afraid
Oct 21 16:50:59 <iurgi> :(
Oct 21 16:51:11 <iosonoio> acc
Oct 21 16:51:13 <iosonoio> ok
Oct 21 16:51:51 <iosonoio> don't worrie i'll post it here and if someone can help me i'll be happy :D
Oct 21 16:51:57 <iosonoio>  /tmp/run/mountd/sda1 has expired... unmounting
Oct 21 16:52:20 <iosonoio> can't mount my usb pen formatted in ext2
Oct 21 16:53:17 <iosonoio> ok i fixed it :D
Oct 21 16:53:20 <iosonoio> i just waited
Oct 21 16:53:29 <iosonoio> and now i can access to the usb pen :D
Oct 21 16:59:30 <iosonoio> anyone know if this rep it's ok for the fonera2n ? :http://downloads.openwrt.org/kamikaze/8.09.1/atheros/packages
Oct 21 17:01:54 <txurdinet> can anyone go to http://txurdi.ath.cx and tell me if he see my web or the Fonera config?
Oct 21 17:03:35 <xMff> "HOLA, bienvenido al PC de txurdi..."
Oct 21 17:04:22 <iosonoio> the same for me
Oct 21 17:12:51 <iosonoio> found the solution:
Oct 21 17:12:59 <iosonoio> just add this to the opkg.conf file
Oct 21 17:13:01 <iosonoio> src snapshots2 http://downloads.openwrt.org/kamikaze/8.09.2-RC2/rb532/packages/
Oct 21 17:19:18 <hendry> are there ways of doing a dyndns, though with one's own domain?
Oct 21 17:20:50 <xMff> if you find a way to alter the records automatically...
Oct 21 17:21:15 <iurgi> hmmm
Oct 21 17:21:29 <iurgi> maybe some dyndns provider let's you configure your own domain
Oct 21 17:21:37 <iurgi> but usually you need to pay for this service imo
Oct 21 17:25:54 <hendry> hmm, i did an upgrade yesterday and it lost my firewall port fowarding settings. is this normal?
Oct 21 17:26:09 <hendry> also can you confirm that openwrt use statically built kernels?
Oct 21 17:27:31 <iurgi> hendry: normal that you lost the confs
Oct 21 17:27:48 <iurgi> only those are lost plus the password flag that activates wan access for services
Oct 21 17:28:30 <xMff> hendry: what do you mean with statically built kernels?
Oct 21 17:29:04 <hendry> xMff: i.e. no modules
Oct 21 17:29:15 <xMff> no, not true
Oct 21 17:29:38 <xMff> essential ones are built in since there is no initrd
Oct 21 17:29:54 <xMff> but the rest is modules
Oct 21 17:29:57 <hendry> xMff: oh, a friend was going on about why statically linked kernels are faster and more reliable, hence why wifi routers are statically built
Oct 21 17:30:12 <txurdinet> thanks xMff and iosonio
Oct 21 17:30:31 <xMff> hendry: they're bigger and inflexible :)
Oct 21 17:30:43 <hendry> is there a httpd module i can use on my fonera2n? i think ftp is a little lame :)
Oct 21 17:31:09 <txurdinet> so I have redirected port  80 if someone access from WAN
Oct 21 17:31:13 <hendry> perhaps i can build nostomo httpd for my device
Oct 21 17:31:36 <xMff> txurdinet: it is normal that port forwards do not work from the lan side
Oct 21 17:31:42 <txurdinet> but if I access from my wireless, I go to Fonera
Oct 21 17:31:50 <txurdinet> ok
Oct 21 17:32:19 <iurgi> txurdinet: you had the same problem last time
Oct 21 17:32:26 <iurgi> it willunlikely work from inside your network
Oct 21 17:32:28 <iurgi> .(
Oct 21 17:32:52 <hendry> i can't believe my fonera2n runs proftpd. It's a really badly done ftpd at 135k SLOC
Oct 21 17:33:15 <txurdinet> don't worry, if it works from outside, it's ok
Oct 21 17:33:16 <hendry> does anyone have NFS running on their fonera2n?
Oct 21 17:34:33 <xMff> proftpd? I though it is pureftpd
Oct 21 17:34:39 <iurgi> it is pureftpd
Oct 21 17:47:25 <alexsc> hi @ all.... every evening my fonera smb server doesn't work any more and if i try to log on the gui i get this error message
Oct 21 17:47:33 <alexsc> cannot read /tmp/luci-templatecache/0/fon%2fmaster_dashboard.lua: Input/output error stack traceback: 	[C]: in function '?' 	?: in function '__init__' 	?: in function 'Template' 	?: in function 'render' 	?: in function <?:71> 	(tail call): ? 	?: in function 'dispatch' 	?: in function <?:132>
Oct 21 17:47:42 <alexsc> what am i doing wrong?
Oct 21 17:48:55 <alexsc> but wireless signal is there and i can surf through the internet ...
Oct 21 17:49:16 <iurgi> alexsc: seems to be a problem in luci
Oct 21 17:49:30 <iurgi> apparently we enabled a cache or something like that
Oct 21 17:49:41 <iurgi> xMff: might know what I mean
Oct 21 17:49:53 <alexsc> a cache for what?
Oct 21 17:50:04 <iurgi> this cache fucks up the mountd process that manages the discs when it tries to umount the disks
Oct 21 17:50:07 <iurgi> for the web server
Oct 21 17:50:09 <iurgi> to be faster
Oct 21 17:50:18 <iurgi> disabling thisseems to fix the problem
Oct 21 17:50:21 <alexsc> ok, is this a known problem?
Oct 21 17:51:36 <iurgi> it is
Oct 21 17:51:47 <iurgi> it will be fixed in the next release (it seems)
Oct 21 17:51:55 <iurgi> needs more testing
Oct 21 17:51:58 <alexsc> that's nice
Oct 21 17:52:34 <alexsc> the problem appears since i have another hdd with more space
Oct 21 17:52:57 <alexsc> with the first one (80GB) no problems. now it's a 320GB and these problems appear
Oct 21 17:52:58 <iurgi> oh
Oct 21 17:53:02 <iurgi> that's probably nre
Oct 21 17:53:08 <iurgi> ah
Oct 21 17:53:12 <iurgi> really?
Oct 21 17:53:14 <iurgi> interesting
Oct 21 17:53:16 <iurgi> really interesting
Oct 21 17:53:16 <alexsc> yes
Oct 21 17:54:47 <alexsc> both NTFS#
Oct 21 18:01:55 <alexsc> so you have no clew
Oct 21 18:04:26 <iosonoio> where the path for the start up scripts related to fonstate is set up?
Oct 21 18:22:57 <alexsc> iurgi: is blogic on holliday?
Oct 21 18:24:14 <xMff> iurgi: "Input/output" the luci devs shift the blame back to the platform devs ;)
Oct 21 18:24:27 <xMff> * "Input/output" error
Oct 21 18:24:33 <xMff> is a filesystem issue
Oct 21 18:24:37 <xMff> a low level one
Oct 21 18:24:42 <xMff> has nothing to do with the webif
Oct 21 18:25:26 <alexsc> so shoud i wait for the next firmware or format the hdd again?
Oct 21 18:25:40 <alexsc> *should
Oct 21 18:45:35 <alexsc> thank you guys, have a nice evening
Oct 21 20:30:19 <Lee-mon> is there a way to make another ftp acount and wen that account is logged in be redirected to a specific folder in the hdd?
Oct 21 22:07:47 <Barbon> oi
Oct 21 22:07:49 <Barbon> some livers here?
Oct 21 22:07:53 <iosonoio> yesss
Oct 21 22:08:49 <Barbon> lol
Oct 21 22:08:58 <Barbon> hai la fon 2.0n?
Oct 21 22:09:08 <iosonoio> si
Oct 21 22:09:13 <iosonoio> arrivata oggi
Oct 21 22:16:08 <Barbon> hai problemi con nome wireless?
Oct 21 22:16:24 <Barbon> tipo se metti come nome wireless rete marco
Oct 21 22:16:30 <Barbon> appare solo rete
Oct 21 22:40:22 <Barbon> ci sei?
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