**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Oct 25 02:59:56 2009 Oct 25 09:44:33 Buongiorno! Oct 25 10:42:04 Hello Oct 25 10:42:19 hi. Oct 25 10:42:33 i cannot select "wifi" as internet mode for my fonera2n Oct 25 10:42:50 the GUI only offers dhcp/static/pppoe Oct 25 10:43:47 Yasuo: It's not supported yet, due to different wireless hardware Oct 25 10:44:27 so they sold hardware w/o working software again.. thanks for the info Oct 25 10:56:56 do you know if it's planned to be able to upload on megaupload, rapidshare, and FTP with la fonera 2.0n? Oct 25 12:07:50 oi Oct 25 12:07:51 news? Oct 25 12:53:36 Hello. Oct 25 12:54:17 Is anyone aware of known issues with trying to downgrade the 2202 firmware from 2.3.0.1RC1 to earlier versions? Oct 25 12:54:58 I did a factory reset using the dashboard the other day, and was somewhat surprised to find that firmware remained at version 2.3.0.1. Oct 25 12:55:41 srf21c: Factory reset won't change your firmware version, only the settings Oct 25 12:56:01 So attempted to downgrade the firmware to 2.2.6.0RC5...but after the attempt the dashboard said that I'm still running 2.3.0.1. Oct 25 12:56:05 blathijs: ok, thx. Oct 25 12:56:31 srf21c: Also, downgrading should be done through the SSH or redboot interfaces, downgrading is not supported yet (will be in the future) Oct 25 12:56:59 When I click on the version number in the dashboard however, it said I'm running -------- Fonera 20n Firmware (v2.2.6.0) ----------- !! Oct 25 12:57:17 Is the downgrade procedure via SSH described in the wiki somewhere? Oct 25 12:57:50 btw, I "restored" the firmware to the latest 2.3.0.1RC5 dev version. Oct 25 12:58:14 and clicking on the version number still shows a popup window with this -------- Fonera 20n Firmware (v2.2.6.0) ----------- Oct 25 12:59:04 So I was bit confused by that. Having no luck whatsoever getting the 2202 to recognize any USB mass storage devices. Oct 25 13:00:04 srf21c: Ah, yes, the version number is 2.2.6 in the 2.3.0.1RC1 firmware in a few places Oct 25 13:00:33 So the whatever the dashboard shows as the version, should be the actual one then? Oct 25 13:00:48 yup Oct 25 13:00:58 srf21c: The Firmware_Update page (or something like that) has instructions for SSH updates Oct 25 13:01:29 ok, cool thx. Oct 25 13:02:04 Btw, it looks like the kernel is seeing my USB flash drive, as it's showing up when is issue a "cat /proc/bus/usb/devices" command. Oct 25 13:02:25 Yet no trace of it in the dashboard. Something happens with my external hard drive. Oct 25 13:02:46 Shows up with the cat /proc/bus/usb/devices command, but nada in the gui. Oct 25 13:03:50 Also I cannot seem to get rid of the register icon with the exclamation point over it at the top right of the dashboard, no matter how many times I log into the phone site. I am using the Opera browser, maybe I'll try with Safari and see if that makes any difference. Oct 25 13:06:38 What I meant to say earlier is that the *same* thing is happening with an external USB hard drive, as is happening with my USB flash drive. Oct 25 13:07:00 that is to say both are not being recognized in the fonera dashboard. Oct 25 13:07:26 Could the partitioning of the drives be preventing them from showing up? Oct 25 13:07:32 do you know if it's planned to be able to upload on megaupload, rapidshare, and FTP with la fonera 2.0n? Oct 25 13:07:44 The hard drive has two Mac OS partitions, and the flash drive is just FAT32. Oct 25 13:09:14 spoon_: did you watch the youtube video about it here? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7ZXcVQcm4Q Oct 25 13:10:58 spoon_: There's also a video of the 2.0n dashboard features here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIeIoi7jg8&NR=1 Oct 25 13:11:32 erf i have not sound on my computer Oct 25 13:13:23 spoon_: ok. According to the video, I'm pretty both rapidshare and megaupload are supported. Oct 25 13:13:53 download, but upload? Oct 25 13:14:42 srf21c: I think a drive should have partitions to be recognized, a disk without a partition table (so with a filesystem directly on the disk) isn Oct 25 13:14:46 't supported Oct 25 13:14:51 spoon_: not 100% as I have not used it myself, but would it not be upload, just like youtube, flickr, and the rest? Oct 25 13:15:00 srf21c: Not sure if MacOS partitions are supported either? Oct 25 13:15:21 blathijs: Hm. I would imagine that fat32 would be supported though, yes? Oct 25 13:15:35 srf21c: Yes, but perhaps that flash disk has not partitions? Oct 25 13:15:44 (ie, not even a single partition) Oct 25 13:15:53 Flash disk works fine when plugged into any of my other computers. Oct 25 13:16:04 Has a single 2GB fat32 partition. Oct 25 13:16:12 That should work... Oct 25 13:16:19 I'll check the system log when I insert it, forgot about that troubleshooting step. Oct 25 13:16:22 hang on. Oct 25 13:16:25 srf21c: Does logread or dmesg show anything usefull? Oct 25 13:16:41 blathijs: that's exactly what I forgot to check, looking now. Oct 25 13:18:33 When I insert the flash drive, I get about 10 lines of output from 'logread -f' Oct 25 13:18:46 srf21c: pastebin them somewhere? Oct 25 13:18:49 Nothing looks like an error msg, last line is 'device scan complete' Oct 25 13:18:50 sure Oct 25 13:20:02 Here you go: http://pastebin.com/m755ad600 Oct 25 13:21:16 srf21c: That's what I thought, the disk is not partitioned Oct 25 13:21:26 ah, ok. Oct 25 13:21:36 I'm not sure why this is not supported, but it bit me as well Oct 25 13:21:40 fdisk -l /dev/sda is spitting a lot of errors too. Oct 25 13:21:55 Yeah, there is just filesystem data where the partition table usually is Oct 25 13:22:13 You can work around this by just creating a single full-size partition and formatting that Oct 25 13:22:16 do you happen to know if the fon firmware includes the necessary tools for partitioning and formatting fat32? Oct 25 13:22:21 alright. Oct 25 13:22:30 No, I think just ext Oct 25 13:22:39 megaupload and rapidshare application is just for download Oct 25 13:22:47 fdisk is on there, as well as mkfs.ext2/3 Oct 25 13:22:57 only for download Oct 25 13:23:30 spoon_: ok thx for clearing that up, sorry I could not be of more help. Oct 25 13:23:37 ok Oct 25 13:24:15 blathijs: I think this flash drive was partitioned using the windows disk manager. I wonder if I'll get the same results. Maybe I'll try partitioning it on my Mac instead. Oct 25 13:29:17 gotta reboot, be back in a few. Oct 25 13:45:23 So I erased the old partition and used the Mac Disk Utility to create a single 2GB ms-dos partition on my flash drive. Oct 25 13:45:47 Plugged this into my fonera and now it's recognizing a /dev/sda1 partition. Oct 25 13:46:35 Although fdisk -l /dev/sda is still giving me a couple of errors regarding GPT not being supported, as well as 'different physical/logical' beginnings and endings. Oct 25 13:46:43 let's see if it shows up in the dashboard... Oct 25 13:47:13 nope, not showing up in the dashboard. Oct 25 13:47:30 Well, I'll try partitioning the drive again using gparted on a linux box. Oct 25 13:47:38 What a pain! Oct 25 13:49:16 srf21c: Did you format the partition as well as create it? Oct 25 13:52:04 blathijs: I'm pretty sure that mac disk utility does it all in one shot. Oct 25 13:52:14 I am able to access the drive on my mac desktop. Oct 25 13:52:18 and copy files to it. Oct 25 13:52:44 and disk utility reports a fat32 partition on the flash drive. Oct 25 13:53:08 Hmm, that should be enough, I guess Oct 25 13:53:25 My mac was able to read and write from the drive even with the original partition that did worse in the fonera. Oct 25 13:53:57 Have to see if I have a copy of puppy linux kicking around, don't have any linux boxes around at the moment. Oct 25 13:54:11 srf21c: Yeah, it's not a broken configuration without partitions, but just not working in the Fonera for some reason Oct 25 14:03:42 Well time to grab some breakfast. Thanks for you help, I'll report back here if I get it working. Oct 25 16:02:26 ok, so I was eventually able to get my 2GB USB flash drive recognized by my 2202. Oct 25 16:03:41 booted into puppy linux of another thumbdrive and used gparted graphical tool to delete and recreate a fat32 partition. Oct 25 16:03:57 This did not work as the partition type was still being seen as EFI GPT Oct 25 16:04:11 So I went the old school way and used fdisk to delete the old partition, Oct 25 16:04:22 create a new one of type Win95 Fat32 hex code b Oct 25 16:04:40 and then mkfs.fat32 to create a file system on the new partition. Oct 25 16:05:06 This time the USB flash drive was successfully mounted by la fonera Oct 25 16:06:02 I will have to experiment with some other filesystems on my USB hard drive to see if I can get la fonera to recognize that as well. Oct 25 16:06:34 srf21c: Ah, so you were using some non-standard partiion table type? Oct 25 16:06:50 (Or at least not the MSDOS partition table) Oct 25 16:08:10 I guess so. Oct 25 16:08:36 I was using the built in OS gui tools to partition and format the drive. Oct 25 16:08:44 Both the Windows Disk management console. Oct 25 16:08:47 and the mac disk utility. Oct 25 16:09:04 and apparently La Fonera doesn't like either of them. Oct 25 16:09:18 Good to know, but feel bad for non linux savvy people trying to get this to work. Oct 25 16:09:50 Of course maybe most end-users are just using the factory USB flash drive partitions anyway, so it probably isn't an issue with them. Oct 25 16:10:11 The tinkerers are most likely the ones to get stung by this. Oct 25 16:16:22 With regards to getting La Fonera to recognize the Mac OS partitions on my USB HDD, it appears that journaling might have to be disabled. http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Time_machine Oct 25 16:16:42 srf21c: Yeah, I guess this should be fixed (at least the non-partitioned case, I'm not sure if supporting the EFI partition table will be easy) Oct 25 16:20:37 any word on whether the backup utility is available on the 2202 with RC1 v2.3.0.1? Oct 25 16:20:44 It doesn't show up in my dashboard. Oct 25 16:21:07 forget that, Oct 25 16:21:09 I lied. Oct 25 16:21:32 it's under the settings section. Oct 25 16:25:48 :-) Oct 25 16:51:21 Well it looks like things are working ok. Only other problems that I've been unable to resolve are the registration and use of a different IP/Subnet for the LAN/WIFI bridge interface Oct 25 16:53:38 I'm hoping that the registration problem will resolve itself once Fon sees the router heartbeat for a few days and my roaming privileges have been restored. Oct 25 16:53:48 Although this could be a chicken-egg scenario. Oct 25 18:43:45 hi guys ftp://artekw.cerbero.pl is offline ... i wanted to install the nntp client does anybody has another source? Oct 25 18:53:12 hi Oct 25 18:54:05 i just saw that in latest firmware (2.3 and up) the option to set internet connectivity to "wireless" is gone.... is that correct? Oct 25 19:29:49 I'd like to add the ibmcam module to my fonera 2202 runnig 2.3.0.1 Oct 25 19:30:20 Could I just copy the module over from another router running OpenWRT? Oct 25 19:30:27 and use insmod to load it? Oct 25 19:31:03 probability to succeed is almost zero Oct 25 19:32:18 you need the same kernel version and more importantly the same feature set compiled into the kernel Oct 25 19:35:43 Dang. Have any of you tried compiling your own build w/custom modules for your fonera? Oct 25 19:36:02 yeah, should be pretty straighforward Oct 25 19:36:57 I want to use my old crappy IBM PC Camera pro with the webcam application. Unfortunately the stock 2.3.0.1RC1 firmware does not include the ibmcam kernel module. Oct 25 19:37:37 well iirc it needs an uvc comptaible cam, even if you get the module running it could be that the required api is not supported Oct 25 19:39:04 xMff: ah, ok. I tried it with my Logitech Quickcam Pro 9000 Web camera but the picture got garbled with some HTTP 500 error. Oct 25 19:39:23 I'm running the 2.3.0.0 web cam app with the 2.3.0.1RC1 firmware. Oct 25 19:39:52 Don't know if the version difference that small is an issue or not. Oct 25 19:40:49 UVC is Universal Video Class I'm guessing.... http://cowboyfrank.net/webcams/mac.htm Oct 25 19:42:20 It appears that the logitech 9000 is UVC compliant, according to the logitech web site http://bit.ly/1tkkt2 Oct 25 19:42:49 seriously doubt that the old school IBM PC Camera Pro (made by Xirlink) is... Oct 25 19:55:11 Maybe I'll have to buy another cheap UVC compliant video cam down the road. Seems like a waste of a high end cam to use the Logitech 9000 with the fonera. Oct 25 20:59:20 hiho Oct 25 21:16:29 oi Oct 25 21:16:31 any news? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Oct 26 02:59:58 2009