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Nov 05 09:41:02 <Administrator_> XD
Nov 05 09:41:05 <Administrator_> ING
Nov 05 09:42:54 <Barbon> ok fixed chatzilla
Nov 05 09:42:55 <Barbon> XD
Nov 05 09:44:20 <Barbon> i tryed to put the bridge
Nov 05 09:44:26 <Barbon> it bricked my fon
Nov 05 09:44:28 <Barbon> >_>
Nov 05 09:53:24 <blathijs_> That's the danger of toying with your netowrk configuration, I guess
Nov 05 09:53:38 <blathijs_> Barbon: Perhaps it's still reachable, but on another ip or on another port?
Nov 05 09:56:20 <Barbon> is reachable but i cant connect on internet
Nov 05 09:56:50 <blathijs_> That's hardly bricking, then
Nov 05 09:57:24 <blathijs> Barbon: I guess you should try to find out what is wrong with the bridge setup, then
Nov 05 09:57:27 <Barbon> i try tonight
Nov 05 09:57:36 <blathijs> Barbon: Perhaps contact the author of that script
Nov 05 09:58:02 <Barbon> iurgi say that he already tryed to contact him
Nov 05 09:58:34 <blathijs> Yup, but I thought you said he was a friend of yours/
Nov 05 09:59:58 <Barbon> i dont know him xD
Nov 05 10:00:10 <Barbon> i try to contact him
Nov 05 10:00:50 <Barbon> what i have to tell to him?
Nov 05 10:04:26 <Barbon> mmm
Nov 05 10:04:33 <Barbon> Lorenzo Braghetto is monosido
Nov 05 10:21:22 <Barbon> mmm
Nov 05 10:21:29 <Barbon> can you repeat the comand here
Nov 05 10:21:35 <Barbon> after logging in ssh?
Nov 05 10:21:42 <Barbon> for load a custom script
Nov 05 10:24:41 <blathijs> Barbon: /etc/init.d/name_of_yourscript reload  (or restart) should work
Nov 05 10:25:19 <Barbon> the custom script is on  a site
Nov 05 10:25:28 <Barbon> how to get it?
Nov 05 10:25:58 <Barbon> it is here http://www.lorenzobraghetto.com/wp-content/uploads/bridge
Nov 05 10:26:54 <blathijs> You pasted that link before. What should I do with it?
Nov 05 10:27:57 <Barbon> how to load the script into fon direct?
Nov 05 10:28:06 <Barbon> using the url ^^
Nov 05 10:28:21 <Barbon> iurgi yesterday tell me how, but now i forgot the comand
Nov 05 10:28:59 <xmff> wget -O /etc/init.d/bridge http://www.lorenzobraghetto.com/wp-content/uploads/bridge && chmod +x /etc/init.d/bridge
Nov 05 10:29:05 <blathijs> Ah, you didn't try yet :-)
Nov 05 10:29:13 <xmff> then /etc/init.d/bridge start
Nov 05 10:29:23 <xmff> if start works, do /etc/init.d/bridge enable
Nov 05 10:29:49 <blathijs> Barbon: But didn't you say the bridge script broke your internet connection? How's that possible if you didn't try it yet?
Nov 05 10:29:54 <xmff> after you did "enable" it will start automatically on each boot, so make sure it does not brick your fonera before you permanently enable it
Nov 05 10:30:02 <Barbon> i have tryed but i have wrong anyhing
Nov 05 10:30:05 <Barbon> i think
Nov 05 10:30:10 <Barbon> so i try today
Nov 05 10:30:14 <Barbon> again
Nov 05 10:31:07 <Barbon> ok thank you :)
Nov 05 10:31:27 <Barbon> i copy all comands, so i test tonight
Nov 05 10:32:23 <blathijs> xmff: Ah, that's useful to know (about start vs enable)
Nov 05 10:33:21 <Barbon> thank you xmff
Nov 05 10:33:26 <xmff> that bridge script looks fragile
Nov 05 10:33:45 <xmff> it copies the current wan ip and moves it to the bridge
Nov 05 10:34:13 <xmff> if dhcp on wan is not available fast enough for some reason it might break, leaving the fonera without ip
Nov 05 10:34:21 <xmff> best is to set a static _wan_ ip
Nov 05 10:34:35 <xmff> maybe the one that would be assigned by dhcp anyway
Nov 05 10:35:15 <xmff> and it does not seem to deal properly with the firewall
Nov 05 10:35:44 <xmff> the bridge with the wan ip runs under the context of the lan interfaces, this might cause unexpected bahaviour
Nov 05 10:36:10 <xmff> also option forward in the lan zone should be set to accept
Nov 05 10:36:24 <blathijs> Apparently it does work for that guy, but it does not solve any of the problems bridgin introduces I guess
Nov 05 10:37:07 <xmff> yes, it just needs some documentation, users need to be aware that there is no lan ip after that
Nov 05 10:37:21 <xmff> and they need to know how to find a dhcp assigned ip in their subnet
Nov 05 10:37:25 <Barbon> so before run the script is best to set a wan ip?
Nov 05 10:37:49 <xmff> yes, but a working one, e.g. one out of the subnet your router uses
Nov 05 10:38:15 <xmff> or just take the one the fonera has assigned right now
Nov 05 10:38:28 <xmff> on wan
Nov 05 10:38:53 <Barbon> ok i try today
Nov 05 10:39:31 <xmff> after the bridge script is started, your fonera has no lan ip anymore, so you can only reach it via its lan ip
Nov 05 10:39:41 <xmff> *via its wan ip
Nov 05 10:41:33 <Barbon> mmm
Nov 05 10:41:54 <Barbon> so after do that if i wanna use torrent, what i have to do?
Nov 05 10:42:24 <xmff> you continue to use it normally, you just reach it under a different ip
Nov 05 10:44:14 <Barbon> so i dont need to set port forwarding?
Nov 05 10:44:32 <xmff> where?
Nov 05 10:44:38 <xmff> on the fonera?
Nov 05 10:45:07 <blathijs> Barbon: "i wanna use torrent" <-- Did you mean Torrent on the fonera, or Torrent on your own PC?
Nov 05 10:45:18 <Barbon> torrent of fonera of course
Nov 05 11:05:38 <blathijs> Barbon: Then what port forwarding did you think would be needed?
Nov 05 11:06:58 <Barbon> nope
Nov 05 11:07:07 <Barbon> it must work as ddw-rt firmware no?
Nov 05 11:07:17 <blathijs> ddw-rt?
Nov 05 11:07:41 <Barbon> http://www.dd-wrt.com/site/index
Nov 05 11:07:53 <Barbon> is an custom firmware that work on fon
Nov 05 11:08:09 <xmff> dd-wrt wouldn't need a portforward as well
Nov 05 11:08:37 <Barbon> so also the fonera with that script right?
Nov 05 11:09:10 <xmff> even without the script you wouldn't need a portforward
Nov 05 11:09:19 <xmff> the portforward is required on your internet router
Nov 05 11:09:30 <xmff> but that is totally out of the scope of your fonera
Nov 05 11:09:50 <Barbon> mmm
Nov 05 11:10:12 <xmff> in fact, I'm not even sure whether you actually need bridge mode
Nov 05 11:10:42 <Barbon> i need it for some thing
Nov 05 11:10:50 <xmff> you only need that if you want to connect PCs to the fonera and want to do the dhcp and firewalling stuff on the main router
Nov 05 11:10:51 <Barbon> like for host games
Nov 05 11:11:08 <xmff> "bridge mode" makes the fonera act like a dumb managed switch
Nov 05 11:11:26 <Barbon> so tell me why a lot of users request it ^^
Nov 05 11:11:47 <xmff> because usually the majority of users has no clue about natworking basics
Nov 05 11:11:55 <xmff> s/nat/net/
Nov 05 11:12:01 <Barbon> oh...
Nov 05 11:12:33 <Barbon> i have also see that firewall dont work
Nov 05 11:12:56 <Barbon> like i have tryed to open a port on fon to my pc, the internet router to fon
Nov 05 11:13:00 <Barbon> and never worked
Nov 05 11:13:18 <Barbon> is that also because i need bridging :)
Nov 05 11:13:29 <xmff> or proper routing
Nov 05 11:13:54 <Barbon> what you mean xmff?
Nov 05 11:14:05 <xmff> I noticed another thing with the bridge script, I think the public wifi does not work anymore if the bridge mode is enabled
Nov 05 11:14:33 <blathijs> Barbon: He means that you probably set things up wrongly, or found a bug in one of the firmwares
Nov 05 11:14:53 <Barbon> i use fon 2.0. basic  without bridge script with pubblic wi-fi on shop ^^
Nov 05 11:14:59 <blathijs> Barbon: Neither of which should be fixed by doing somthing completely different, such as using bridge mode
Nov 05 11:15:02 <Barbon> for home i dont use pubblic
Nov 05 11:15:20 <Barbon> oh...
Nov 05 11:15:29 <xmff> bridge solves the issues, but one need to know about the implications
Nov 05 11:16:00 <Barbon>  i just wanna try :)
Nov 05 11:16:00 <xmff> also the firewall can be disabled entirely then
Nov 05 11:16:04 <blathijs> xmff: It prevents the issues from occuring, which is subtly different from solving them IMHO :-)
Nov 05 11:16:21 <Barbon> i test when i return to home
Nov 05 11:17:09 <xmff> blathijs: yeah but it is way easier then telling users howto setup static routes between isp router and fonera, howto disable nat on the fonera and allow traffic in both directions from fonera lan to wan and vice versa and to explain why chained port forwards might not work etc.
Nov 05 11:18:08 <xmff> ... while pointing out that one needs different subnets for both and that broadcasts do not work across the subnet barrier and so on
Nov 05 11:18:39 <blathijs> xmff: I was thinking about just setting up port forwards properly as the alternative :-)
Nov 05 11:19:08 <xmff> well that involves crossing a nat two times
Nov 05 11:19:21 <xmff> imo it is pure luck if it works peroperly
Nov 05 11:19:23 <blathijs> But if you want the full connectivity package, bridging is indeed easier than the full routing setup
Nov 05 11:19:39 <blathijs> xmff: Why? What's troublesome about the second NAT crossing?
Nov 05 11:20:03 <xmff> it is ugly :)
Nov 05 11:20:28 <xmff> and I think there are some problems but I don't remeber the specifics
Nov 05 11:20:30 <blathijs> Yes, without a doubt (but NAT is ugly in the first place IMHO :-)
Nov 05 11:20:35 <blathijs> xmff: K
Nov 05 11:20:59 <Barbon> blathjis you are in chat at 20.30?
Nov 05 11:21:24 <blathijs> Nope, I have a meeting tonight
Nov 05 11:22:05 <Barbon> oh :(
Nov 05 17:01:04 <barbon> oi i have execute the bridge script now
Nov 05 17:01:30 <barbon> when i execute the script
Nov 05 17:01:34 <barbon> appaer a big list
Nov 05 17:01:37 <barbon> of stuff
Nov 05 17:03:34 <barbon> root@Fonera:~# /etc/init.d/bridge start br-lan    Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:18:84:88:28:84           inet addr:192.168.10.1  Bcast:192.168.10.255  Mask:255.255.255.0           UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
Nov 05 17:03:37 <barbon> is normal?
Nov 05 17:06:26 <barbon> device eth0.1 is already a member of a bridge; can't enslave it to bridge br-lan. BusyBox v1.11.1 (2009-08-24 09:46:24 CEST) multi-call binary  Usage: route [{add|del|delete}]
Nov 05 17:16:59 <barbon> somesone her?
Nov 05 17:22:13 <iurgi> brctl show
Nov 05 17:23:59 <iosonoio> barbon: is the bridge script working?
Nov 05 17:24:51 <iosonoio> what it was aspected to do? put in bridge the tho ethernet port? and if yes what is the ip where they answer?
Nov 05 17:25:03 <iosonoio> tho= two :)
Nov 05 17:41:35 <barbon> sorry reback
Nov 05 17:41:47 <barbon> i have executed the script again and appaer this:
Nov 05 17:41:58 <barbon> device eth0.1 is already a member of a bridge; can't enslave it to bridge br-lan. BusyBox v1.11.1 (2009-08-24 09:46:24 CEST) multi-call binary  Usage: route [{add|del|delete}]  Edit the kernel's routing tables  Options:         -n      Don't resolve names         -e      Display other/more information         -A inet{6}      Select address family
Nov 05 17:42:10 <barbon> is the eth.0 error?
Nov 05 18:02:22 <barbon> u u u
Nov 05 19:20:33 <andi3> hallo
Nov 05 19:21:33 <andi3> I'm trying to access http://acdrtux.es/junk/luci-rsdownloader_0.3.6.tgz from http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Fon-ng:_Get_Involved. Do you know where I can get it?
Nov 05 21:38:10 <demludi> hi all
Nov 05 21:38:18 <demludi> 1 have 1 question
Nov 05 21:38:26 <demludi> need help
Nov 05 21:38:56 <demludi> huawei e169 and fonera 2.0n how to configurate
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Nov 06 00:41:26 <joseph_> hi
Nov 06 00:43:48 <joseph_> I tested the bridge script of monossido on fonera 2.0n
Nov 06 00:44:45 <joseph_> I replace on the script every "eth0.1" with "eth0.2"
Nov 06 00:45:46 <joseph_> and so it works again
Nov 06 00:45:49 <joseph_> bye
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